WOJ: How David Blatt never stood a chance with LeBron James and his camp

[Ca$H]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-david-blatt-never-stood-a-chance-with-lebron-james-and-his-camp-035612484.html

[Beastmode88]

LeGM :facepalm

[Done_And_Done]

Most interesting take away for me...


Gilbert made Lue the league's highest-paid assistant coach at $2 million-plus a year, forever considering him the head-coach-in-waiting should Blatt need to go. Ultimately, Blatt had little staying power with the Cavaliers, because James had turned Blatt's removal into an inevitability. As the games wore on, opposing players on the floor weren't only watching James constantly wave off plays from the coach – but role players feeling emboldened to disregard the head coach's instructions, too

[jayfan]

Lepolean





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[nba_55]

Woj is a known lebron hater, this is a made up story.

[scandisk_]

Woj is a known lebron hater, this is a made up story.

I'd take WOJ over bitchhorst anytime of the day. Please.... LeGM has this planned all along.

[nba_55]

I'd take WOJ over bitchhorst anytime of the day. Please.... LeGM has this planned all along.
Woj is known as a lebron hater, sesrch it, you'll see. He is not reliable when it comes to lebron.

[Long Duck Dong]

Woj is a known lebron hater, this is a made up story.

http://img2.timeinc.net/health/images/slides/to-much-salt-400x400.jpg

[jayfan]

Woj is a known lebron hater, this is a made up story.

:facepalm






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[scandisk_]

http://img2.timeinc.net/health/images/slides/to-much-salt-400x400.jpg

bran stan logic

that ain't NaCl, that's sugar

[beastee]

Woj is a known lebron hater, this is a made up story.
You are a known Lebron apologist, this is a blatant post to bandaid a coach killer.

[Done_And_Done]

Woj is known as a lebron hater, sesrch it, you'll see. He is not reliable when it comes to lebron.

I've heard rumblings in the past of this and read written diatribes from Woj that would led me to beleive this is true.

With that said, the content of this article doesn't seem far fetched given what we know about James.

[nba_55]

You are a known Lebron apologist, this is a blatant post to bandaid a coach killer.
I m not, i call him out when he doesn't play well.

[scandisk_]

Tried it in Miami with Spo and it didn't work.

Pat ain't his bitch. The Cavs front office on the other hand :roll:

[nba_55]

I've heard rumblings in the past of this and read written diatribes from Woj that would led me to beleive this is true.

With that said, the content of this article doesn't seem far fetched given what we know about James.
Believe it if you want, i m not believing it unless we hear the same thing from other sources.

[kennethgriffin]

this is the 2nd time lebrons sabotaged his own team to get his way


2011*
2016*


WOW

[beastee]

I m not, i call him out when he doesn't play well.
But not willing to admit he is still a bad guy and calling all the shots? WOJ is the best the NBA has, and while I know he gets irked by LBJ, this story is exactly what happened and everyone knows it.

[Done_And_Done]

Believe it if you want, i m not believing it unless we hear the same thing from other sources.

My first comment was in regards to your point about Woj dislking Bron.
Similar to yourself and others, it appears plausible to assert that he isn't fond of the guy.

[Hey Yo]

I'd take WOJ over bitchhorst anytime of the day. Please.... LeGM has this planned all along.
"In the locker room after the Cavs beat the Clippers, Griffin noticed an absence of joy over a nice win. He saw Blatt's comments about how there isn't enough credit being given to the team, despite its $110 million payroll and extreme expectations.

He knew the players would use Blatt as an excuse if they came up short again this season, and he would probably have to confront this issue at some point. He decided to confront it now.

A little over one year after he and Gilbert decided to not let Blatt go, Griffin talked with Gilbert again. This time, there would be no vote of confidence. Griffin didn't call James or any other player. He met with Blatt and fired him, and he promoted Lue.

When the players were called together to receive the news, some thought a player had been traded, sources said. Several players speculated they were going to be told Love had been dealt. But it was Blatt.

It was nothing James or Irving or Love or anyone said that got Blatt fired. If it had truly been up to James, sources said, Blatt might have been fired a year earlier. As it turned out, the actions of the entire team, Blatt included, over the past 15 months brought Griffin to this conclusion.

[uber]

Believe it if you want, i m not believing it unless we hear the same thing from other sources.

https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/690639470870179840

So if Windhorst is saying that Gilbert was a supporter of Blatt then who could have want Blatt gone? Let us think really hard about that one :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

[nba_55]

But not willing to admit he is still a bad guy and calling all the shots? WOJ is the best the NBA has, and while I know he gets irked by LBJ, this story is exactly what happened and everyone knows it.
Why would i admit that if there s no evidence that proves it?

[guy]

It's this type of stuff why the whole "Lebron hasn't had enough help in his career" argument for why he hasn't had as much success as some other all time greats doesn't really work.

[nba_55]

https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/690639470870179840

So if Windhorst is saying that Gilbert was a supporter of Blatt then who could have want Blatt gone? Let us think really hard about that one :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
Windhorst also said lebron didn't know about blatt getting fired. Cherry picking what to believe?

[scandisk_]

snip

by: Brian Windhorst and Dave McMenamin

:rockon:

[uber]

Windhorst also said lebron didn't know about blatt getting fired. Cherry picking what to believe?

I'm not cherry picking anything. You wanted a second source and there you have one. Or is Windhorst making that stuff up just like Woj?

[nba_55]

by: Brian Windhorst and Dave McMenamin

:rockon:
Both sources are unreliable. Woj is a lebron hater, windhorst is a lebron lover

[nba_55]

I'm not cherry picking anything. You wanted a second source and there you have one. Or is Windhorst making that stuff up just like Woj?
But windhorst reported that lebron didn't know blatt was getting fired. How does that support woj's claims?

[Hey Yo]

https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/690639470870179840

So if Windhorst is saying that Gilbert was a supporter of Blatt then who could have want Blatt gone? Let us think really hard about that one :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
This is from 8hrs ago:

A little over one year after he and Gilbert decided to not let Blatt go, Griffin talked with Gilbert again. This time, there would be no vote of confidence. Griffin didn't call James or any other player. He met with Blatt and fired him, and he promoted Lue.

Why didn't Gilbert tell Griffin no and that Blatt is our guy??

[uber]

But windhorst reported that lebron didn't know blatt was getting fired. How does that support woj's claims?

So just because Lebron didn't knew that Blatt was fired today there is no possibility that he had something to do with it? I will never understand that benefit of the doubt when it comes to Lebron.

[uber]

This is from 8hrs ago:

A little over one year after he and Gilbert decided to not let Blatt go, Griffin talked with Gilbert again. This time, there would be no vote of confidence. Griffin didn't call James or any other player. He met with Blatt and fired him, and he promoted Lue.

Why didn't Gilbert tell Griffin no and that Blatt is our guy??

How should i know that? I just brought up that a known Lebron homer tweeted it and not someone who has a agenda against him.

[FLDFSU]

Woj is a known lebron hater, this is a made up story.

Exactly. Every damn time a "major" event happens that even remotely concerns Lebron James this idiot comes with his theories about how James is a evil genius. Look at the BS stories he made up about Lebron when he went to Miami.

He always claims to have some major insight to James and his crew AFTER the fact. Never does he predict anything. Just waits for something to happened and then write an "insider's account."

If he knew half of what he was talking about, this moron would have published his articles BEFORE they happened.

[nba_55]

Exactly. Every damn time a "major" event happens that even remotely concerns Lebron James this idiot comes with his theories about how James is a evil genius. Look at the BS stories he made up about Lebron when he went to Miami.

He always claims to have some major insight to James and his crew AFTER the fact. Never does he predict anything. Just waits for something to happened and then write an "insider's account."

If he knew half of what he was talking about, this moron would have published his articles BEFORE they happened.

Exactly! Why did he wait so long to report that Spo story? Why didn't he report all his claims before Blatt getting fired? It all seems fishy. And what story he made up about Lebron when he went to Miami?

[FLDFSU]

Exactly! Why did he wait so long to report that Spo story? Why didn't he report all his claims before Blatt getting fired? It all seems fishy. And what story he made up about Lebron when he went to Miami?

And the sad thing is that his story is INHERENTLY contradictory.

He claims Lebron is this all-powerful basketball player that pressures the Cavs into getting what he wants. He claims that from the get-go Lebron James wanted Mark Jackson.

Hmmm. Last I checked Jackson was still calling games for ABC. So James CANNOT be as powerful as this idiot claims.

What did Adrian make up about Lebron James to Miami story? First he said that Lebron James demanded coach Brown to be fired. Complete BS. And confirmed to be BS. Next he claimed that Lebron demanded that his crew be given certain traveling rights with the Heat before he signed. Again. Completely made up. Finally he claimed that Lebron and his crew hated Cleveland and thought they were better than Northeast OH. James never moved or sold his mansion outside of Cleveland and ensured that his two sons went to school in Cleveland. James and his crew has alway maintained a presence in Northeast OH.

And there are these recent made up nuggets in 2014:

Adrian Wojnarowski:

[Blue&Orange]

Tried it in Miami with Spo and it didn't work.

Pat ain't his bitch. The Cavs front office on the other hand :roll:
this

[Blue&Orange]

Windhorst also said lebron didn't know about blatt getting fired. Cherry picking what to believe?
It was LEbron that said he didn't know.



LeBron James says he was as "surprised and caught off-guard like everybody" by the firing of Cleveland Cavaliers coach David Blatt, who took his team to the NBA Finals last season.

LEbrontards having meltdowns left and right.

[VengefulAngel]

It was LEbron that said he didn't know.




LEbrontards having meltdowns left and right.

David Griffin the GM said Lebron didn't know, are you stupid do some ****ing research.

[senelcoolidge]

Lebron is not a good guy. Team owners need to stop giving players so much power. "I want only a black coach", Chris Paul. Lebron and his camp want their guy. Just bad examples to follow. The nba will not improve with these type of prima donna's commanding organizations.

[swagga]

Lebron is not a good guy. Team owners need to stop giving players so much power. "I want only a black coach", Chris Paul. Lebron and his camp want their guy. Just bad examples to follow. The nba will not improve with these type of prima donna's commanding organizations.

it's funny how these retards are spoiling away their exceptional talents by being impossible to coach. One of them asked for rivers, a motivational speaker and the other liked mike brown, asked for mark jackson and accepted tyronn lue ... demarcus cousins is in the same mold, just less talented.
Nothing but control freaks sabotaging their careers and choking in tough situations. These dudes should just come clean and ask for a psychyatrist instead of a trying for these martin luther king type coaches.

[Lebron23]

He's not even a good coach. I am just telling facts. Just because he won a championship in some 2nd and 3rd tier leagues. The Euro league and Israeli League have their own rules. They enforced the FIBA rules instead of the NBA rules.


And people don't respect him.

At least Lue have the guts to called out LeBron, and the other players. And he doesn't look like a b1tch.

[outbreak]

Funny people want other sources when we had other sources backing up thompsons big deal being linked to brons agent and when it's fact that jackson switched agents.

[swagga]

He's not even a good coach. I am just telling facts. Just because he won a championship in some 2nd and 3rd tier leagues. The Euro league and Israeli League have their own rules. They enforced the FIBA rules instead of the NBA rules.


And people don't respect him.

At least Lue have the guts to called out LeBron, and the other players. And he doesn't look like a b1tch.

you are the lebron of pathetic human beings, a player stan with a dignity that makes a pedophile look like a saint :facepalm

[Lebron23]

you are the lebron of pathetic human beings, a player stan with a dignity that makes a pedophile look like a saint :facepalm


I love to see him coach a young, and average team in the NBA. Let's see if he can lead that team into the playoffs.

Lakers might fire Byron Scott at the end of the season. The 3rd former NBA Coach of the Lakers that the Lakers are planning to get rid of. Love to see them sign David Blatt. Let's see if they can win at least 35 games with either Simmons and Ingram playing for their team next season.

I don't think he's a good coach.

[swagga]

I love to see him coach a young, and average team in the NBA. Let's see if he can lead that team into the playoffs.

Lakers might fire Byron Scott at the end of the season. The 3rd former NBA Coach of the Lakers that the Lakers are planning to get rid of. Love to see them sign David Blatt. Let's see if they can win at least 35 games with either Simmons and Ingram playing for their team next season.

I don't think he's a good coach.

maybe because you can't pay attention to basketball being busy watching only lebron. Blatt is an excellent coach, you can see it in the plays he designs and in how he adapts the strategy with a diminished roster, in a hostile locker room nonetheless.
Or how he used pace correctly vs gsw in the finals
You could see it when russia gave the US a huge scare in '10.
or you could see it when macabbi beat clearly superior teams.

You should actually try to watch basketball ... it's a big world out there.

[Lebron23]

maybe because you can't pay attention to basketball being busy watching only lebron. Blatt is an excellent coach, you can see it in the plays he designs and in how he adapts the strategy with a diminished roster, in a hostile locker room nonetheless.
Or how he used pace correctly vs gsw in the finals
You could see it when russia gave the US a huge scare in '10.
or you could see it when macabbi beat clearly superior teams.

You should actually try to watch basketball ... it's a big world out there.


FIBA Rules.

He cannot even fully integrated Love in their offense once Irving returned from his injuries.

He failed to solve the Warriors Pick and Roll offense, And they got destroyed Last week.

[swagga]

FIBA Rules.

He cannot even fully integrated Love in their offense once Irving returned from his injuries.

He failed to solve the Warriors Pick and Roll offense, And they got destroyed Last week.

:oldlol: lol @ he failed to solve the Warriors PNR. Blatt and all the coaches in the league.
blatt also had to work with irving&love, THE worst PNR defense tandem in the league.

[jlip]

Duh...

I didn't read the article, but considering Blatt was not brought in to coach a championship or bust team, but to coach a rebuilding team with young players who possibly saw a successful season as merely a .500 record, it's not surprising he never stood a chance. Lebron coming back to Cleveland changed the entire mission of the franchise from "getting better" to "win now", and a coach who had no NBA experience of any sort was not hired to fulfill that mission.

[Euroleague]

Wojna whatever the hell is name is made up a bunch of pure bullshit lies about how Blatt was this incredible coach in Euroleague (when he was pretty much average there), and now this same clown is just trying to cover his ass.

Because he got totally outed for the hack that he is, along with guys like Marc Stein and Brian Windhorst.

[Euroleague]

FIBA Rules.

He cannot even fully integrated Love in their offense once Irving returned from his injuries.

He failed to solve the Warriors Pick and Roll offense, And they got destroyed Last week.

Blatt's coaching style has absolutely zero to due with basketball you moron.

Blatt = 100% pure NBA style basketball coaching and he has always been that way.

He's an American you moron.

The Spurs on the other hand, run an 100% pure FIBA style of basketball and have won numerous championships that way.

Blatt's style and/or ability as a coach has nothing to do with "FIBA rules". Good god there are so many idiots in this forum.

[MP.Trey]

Blatt's coaching style has absolutely zero to due with basketball you moron.

Blatt = 100% pure NBA style basketball coaching and he has always been that way.

He's an American you moron.

The Spurs on the other hand, run an 100% pure FIBA style of basketball and have won numerous championships that way.

Blatt's style and/or ability as a coach has nothing to do with "FIBA rules". Good god there are so many idiots in this forum.
Who's better? Spanoulis or Curry? Seth Curry.

[Young X]

Duh...

I didn't read the article, but considering Blatt was not brought in to coach a championship or bust team, but to coach a rebuilding team with young players who possibly saw a successful season as merely a .500 record, it's not surprising he never stood a chance. Lebron coming back to Cleveland changed the entire mission of the franchise from "getting better" to "win now", and a coach who had no NBA experience of any sort was not hired to fulfill that mission.They had the 3rd best record in the league, #1 in their conference. On pace to having 3 rounds with homecourt.

They had what they needed to "win now", it's not like they were a 3rd or 4th seed.

[Fallen Angel]

Comparing Blatt's offense pre-NBA to post-Euroleague would show two complete offensive styles.

Lebron killed the man, him and the entire Cavalier team are full of undisciplined players who don't gel together when the pressure is at his highest.

[DMAVS41]

Love WOJ...and he may be accurate here, but he hates Lebron with a passion...so you have to take everything he has to say with a grain of salt.

No doubt Blatt got screwed...I hope the Cavs get upset in the East...it would be priceless.

[Fallen Angel]

Blatt shouldn't be blackballed for dumbing down his system of offense for Lebron & Kyrie isos.

Another team in development will give him a chance, probably the Brooklyn Nets.

[Fallen Angel]

Coaching Lebron doesn't take elite offensive schemes, it takes someone who knows how to manage rotations and push his team to play defense. A High School coach could take over the Cavaliers and wouldn't notice a difference with their play.

Lebron needs a better supporting cast around him that can play similar defense as the Miami Heatles, while giving great spacing for Lebron to operate. Lebron also needs to be accountable that this is his system of offense and if his team isn't scoring 90 pts a game it's on him and his inefficiencies as a scorer and distributor, and his defense has been lackluster against the great teams. The scrutiny should be placed on Lebron and his disappointing play, coaching, and GM skills.

[WorldWarriors]

There's a lot of details in that article I.e. names, times, places. Somebody is talking. If they are lies then we will know soon enough. Klutch Sports should be gearing up for some defamation action. You can't just slander the King and his court like that.

[Milbuck]

Comparing Blatt's offense pre-NBA to post-Euroleague would show two complete offensive styles.

Lebron killed the man, him and the entire Cavalier team are full of undisciplined players who don't gel together when the pressure is at his highest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbO_505V3Uo&feature=youtu.be

Pretty much sums up what you're talking about.

[nba_55]

Turns out I was right, he made up that spo story as confimed by Pat Riley and chances are good that he made up the rest also.

[Nash]

Turns out I was right, he made up that spo story as confimed by Pat Riley and chances are good that he made up the rest also.
Everybody knows Woj has somebody on the inside that can give him first hand information regarding official changes in the league. Other than that, his stories are always way off.

If its something official like trade, coaching change or something that the league has to announce then he's as good as it gets. When it comes to speculation then he's on the same level as Chris Broussard.

[Asukal]

Good god there are so many idiots in this forum.

An idiot calling others idiots. :facepalm :oldlol: :roll:

[guy]

He may have not explicitly requested a coach get fired, but its pretty clear that he's disrespected/undermined multiple coaches and has been a difficult player to coach. That's something Woj, his biggest hater in the media, and even Windhorst, his biggest fan in the media, seem to agree on.