What will stop muslims misinterpreting the Quran?

[poido123]

Or are they?


So what is the solution to preventing muslims from taking to the Quran's violent verses and carrying it out?



Seems to be a problem that I think Muslims within their community need to address and condemn those hate preachers looking to distort the Quran, if in fact that is the case.


Where is the line between hate preacher and true Islam?

[iamgine]

Only a very very small percentage is misinterpreting it.

[ISHGoat]

There is nothing to interpret about the Quran because it is the word of God. Most Muslims obey their bible word for word, literally.

[pauk]

You cant misinterpret Quran, its very clear, just use your logic/ration always knowing that it all is utmost benovelence and you will be fine, those who do "misinterpret" it are not misinterpreting it, but more like indoctrinating it to suit their deeds, but then its not Islam anymore, its then creation of your own ideology (even if you desperately call it/want it to be "Islam").... and those who do indoctrinate/create their own ideology of it to suit their deeds, even "caliphate", are most often criminals/terrorists/cons/gangstas/psychos... and those are few....

Muslims = 2.100.000.000 - 2.200.000.000~ people, #2 slightly behind only the #1 world population (Christians) and its just as multicultural, you guaranteed have a nearby neighbor muslim wherever you are and ALWAYS had, you think all walk around with veils/covered or something? (that is only Arabs, Arabic culture!), you think all look middle-eastern (that is only Arabic race!), there is just as many races, ethnicities, cultures in Islam.... maybe even more diverse...

ISIS/Terrorists = 20-30.000~ people atm or something & ever declining & hopefully soon completely erased, that is 0.0000001% of the muslim population.... more like 0.0000000 since no Muslim think they should even be related to the word Muslim/Islam (or even just word "HUMAN") in any way, the only ones who would dare call them Muslims/that is Islam are only ISIS/terrorists themselves and ofcourse guys like Nick Young here (which unfortunately is many people, the us media & such). Considering the population, if i Islam was actually anywhere close to what THEY and ofcourse you/Nick Young/Patrick Chewing think it is then the world would be in the apocalypse stage at the moment.... :P

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Learning Arabic grammar.

Having a pure heart and an intention to seek the truth of things.

Supplementing Qu'ran with a strong foundation of high-quality Hadith and of course applying the Sunnah.

The Qu'ran REPEATEDLY over and over and over and over again reminds people of the Day of Judgment, simmering blazing fires that are infinity times more painful than any pregnancy or spinal tap, and "Allah knows what is revealed and concealed in any hearts." If you don't have hope in the justice of the Book, I don't know what to tell you Poido. All things will be revealed, eventually, and everything will be recompensed for in the Hereafter. I hope this gives comfort in your heart and you really internalize Divine Justice.


The Qu'ran was revelated when Muhammad (PBUH) was at war with Quraysh, other scattered tribes, Abu Lahab, Abu Jahl, and others so naturally it's going to have standards of conduct for war-time in addition to others. You don't turn the other cheek and let your tribe get destroyed. That's not fitrah.

[Patrick Chewing]

There is a strong Muslim Reformation movement coming, OP.

It will be the day where Muslims adopt Western values and are finally seen as forward-thinking individuals capable of separating religion from strict governance over their lives.

There is hope for our Muslim brothers and sisters. I just can't wait to see the amount of ass I can get when Muslim women start wearing regular clothes. That's all I really care about.

[9erempiree]

As mentioned....don't have a problem with Muslims, just Islam and its teachings.

Look how radical someone like Jefferson Money is. He use to be chill then admitted he practices Islam and look how radical he is since he came out of the closet as a Muslim.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

There is a strong Muslim Reformation movement coming, OP.

It will be the day where Muslims adopt Western values and are finally seen as forward-thinking individuals capable of separating religion from strict governance over their lives.

There is hope for our Muslim brothers and sisters. I just can't wait to see the amount of ass I can get when Muslim women start wearing regular clothes. That's all I really care about.

Your goal as a Christian is to strive to do good works on Earth and increase in faith. You had JUST STATED you wanted Bibles to be given to schoolchildren. Dude, PLEASE stay consistent for your soul Chewing. And you know lust and seduction can take you in under its spell and have you forgetting about the Reality after.

Forward-thinking implies the production of technology and advancing in knowledge and civilization. Iran and Pakistan, the two nations arguably closest and strictest in adherence to Islam are slowly but surely developing in those areas. Covering up women to inhibit lust in men is not a detriment to that.

[Nick Young]

The thing is most Muslims do speak out against the crazies and don't interpret the Koran in a violent way. it is a minority of crazies, the problem is the crazies shout the loudest and murder people at random when the moderate ones who speak out against them aren't around.

Realistically, there's no way to stop the crazies really.



Check out this video from 18:58 onwards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DsG9yQrdD4&feature=youtu.be

An entire crowd of Muslim dudes gathers around the crazies and tells them to shut the **** up and they aren't practicing Islam properly.

There is another example of that happening in the video. Vast majority are speaking out against the extremists. Doesn't matter. The extremists are going to keep doing what they do no matter what.

Also check out 13:45 onwards. Everyone coming out of the Mosque is against the psychos and telling them to shut the phuck up. The psycho extremists aren't going to listen to shit. Doesn't matter if it's 10,000 vs 5, the psychos will keep screaming the loudest.

[Trollsmasher]

I am actually kind of frightened by some of the muslim psychopaths in this thread.

Didn't know this species was really his dumb.

[highwhey]

When will you stop being a punk b1tch?

[Trollsmasher]

Somebody like pauk is a perfect example of one of the hundreds of millions of muslims enablers. He pretends he is a "moderate", but the moment you say something bad about anything islam, he goes into a raging, fundamentalist defense mode. While he may not hurt you personally because he is a coward, he will gladly watch his brothers in ISIS cut your head off.

A reminder

http://bloviatingzeppelin.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Muslim-Radical-vs-Moderate.jpg

He is radicalized without even knowing it, because the radicalism is actually just islam's natural state. Those like him are the reason why the "small" terrorist organizations are able to control so many areas - the civilians agree with them and support them as long as they don't have to commit attrocities themselves.

[DonDadda59]

When will you stop being a punk b1tch?

Poido's just mad Islam stole his hairline and turned it into their symbol.

http://i63.tinypic.com/zofpl.png

http://s3.amazonaws.com/colourlovers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/the-red-crescent.jpg

[highwhey]

Poido's just mad Islam stole his hairline and turned it into their symbol.

http://i63.tinypic.com/zofpl.png

http://s3.amazonaws.com/colourlovers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/the-red-crescent.jpg
:roll:

[Trollsmasher]

Poido's just mad Islam stole his hairline and turned it into their symbol.

http://i63.tinypic.com/zofpl.png

http://s3.amazonaws.com/colourlovers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/the-red-crescent.jpg
:lol

[StephHamann]

Somebody like pauk is a perfect example of one of the hundreds of millions of muslims enablers. He pretends he is a "moderate", but the moment you say something bad about anything islam, he goes into a raging, fundamentalist defense mode. While he may not hurt you personally because he is a coward, he will gladly watch his brothers in ISIS cut your head off.

A reminder

http://bloviatingzeppelin.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Muslim-Radical-vs-Moderate.jpg

He is radicalized without even knowing it, because the radicalism is actually just islam's natural state. Those like him are the reason why the "small" terrorist organizations are able to control so many areas - the civilians agree with them and support them as long as they don't have to commit attrocities themselves.


http://www.pewforum.org/files/2013/04/gsi2-overview-1.png

[NZStreetBaller]

Has anyone actually tallied up how many people have been killed by muslim terrorist?? Besides the arguable 9/11 attacks how many international people have terrorist kill over the past 15 years??

Is it even alot or are they just madly over hyped??

[NumberSix]

Has anyone actually tallied up how many people have been killed by muslim terrorist?? Besides the arguable 9/11 attacks how many international people have terrorist kill over the past 15 years??

Is it even alot or are they just madly over hyped??
Well, of all the deaths caused by terrorism last year, 99.7% of them were from Islamic terrorism. Not a hyperbole. That number is literally true.

Of course, if you listen to left wing weirdos, the real problem is the mythical "right wing terrorism".

[pauk]

Learning Arabic grammar.

Having a pure heart and an intention to seek the truth of things.

Supplementing Qu'ran with a strong foundation of high-quality Hadith and of course applying the Sunnah.

The Qu'ran REPEATEDLY over and over and over and over again reminds people of the Day of Judgment, simmering blazing fires that are infinity times more painful than any pregnancy or spinal tap, and "Allah knows what is revealed and concealed in any hearts." If you don't have hope in the justice of the Book, I don't know what to tell you Poido. All things will be revealed, eventually, and everything will be recompensed for in the Hereafter. I hope this gives comfort in your heart and you really internalize Divine Justice.


The Qu'ran was revelated when Muhammad (PBUH) was at war with Quraysh, other scattered tribes, Abu Lahab, Abu Jahl, and others so naturally it's going to have standards of conduct for war-time in addition to others. You don't turn the other cheek and let your tribe get destroyed. That's not fitrah.

:applause:

[plowking]

You cant misinterpret Quran, its very clear, just use your logic/ration always knowing that it all is utmost benovelence and you will be fine, those who do "misinterpret" it are not misinterpreting it, but more like indoctrinating it to suit their deeds, but then its not Islam anymore, its then creation of your own ideology (even if you desperately call it/want it to be "Islam").... and those who do indoctrinate/create their own ideology of it to suit their deeds, even "caliphate", are most often criminals/terrorists/cons/gangstas/psychos... and those are few....



You are so full of shit and misguided. I don't even say that due to this thread, but I say it more in regards with how deep rooted and ingrained in your way of thinking you are. What I'm saying has nothing to do with religion, but rather how ignorant and uninformed you are.

You can't misinterpret a piece of text or literature? Yes pauk, you can, especially religious ones, hence such divide within specific religions themselves.

Indoctrinating? Sure buddy. The fact is, all these religious texts have extremely violent parts in them. My last girlfriend was raised extremely religiously growing up, and she said she had nightmares as a little kid due to being read some of the old testament, etc.
You can say something isn't this based off of this, or whatever you want, but the fact is, the inspiration to do some of these things comes from these particular pieces of texts, which are interpreted in so many different ways all over the world. Even person to person has many different and varying opinions on simple phrases out of these religious texts.

Religion has been the cause of how many wars? How many of the worlds problems throughout history? Even now? Where does most of the global tension now stem from now?
But nah, you can't misinterpret the Bible or Quran, or any other religious texts. :oldlol:

Maybe you need to wake up and realise that religion and the way it has been and still is taught can be a problem.

[pauk]

Well, of all the deaths caused by terrorism last year, 99.7% of them were from Islamic terrorism. Not a hyperbole. That number is literally true.

Of course, if you listen to left wing weirdos, the real problem is the mythical "right wing terrorism".

I know you & much of America (especially media) want for such a thing to exist for what purposes but there is no such thing, if you are a terrorist (criminal, psycho, whatever, same shit etc.) you are no Muslim... especially not if you act like what you do is in the name of Islam...

There is no such thing, if you want to call it "islamic terrorism" then you might aswell call it just ISLAM.... no difference... you cant call it "islamic radicalism" either... none of it... a radical muslim is the one who exaggerates his devotion / practices / thoughts to Islam, its the very LAST person to do anybody harm, thats a radical muslim...

Radical yes
Terrorist yes
Muslim/islam no

"Islamic Mentally Ill Person" is more what i would prefer to hear if you must use the word Islam/Muslim, such thing can exist... mental illness is normal and thats what ALL those **** terrorists are...

[pauk]

Somebody like pauk is a perfect example of one of the hundreds of millions of muslims enablers. He pretends he is a "moderate", but the moment you say something bad about anything islam, he goes into a raging, fundamentalist defense mode. While he may not hurt you personally because he is a coward, he will gladly watch his brothers in ISIS cut your head off.

A reminder

http://bloviatingzeppelin.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Muslim-Radical-vs-Moderate.jpg

He is radicalized without even knowing it, because the radicalism is actually just islam's natural state. Those like him are the reason why the "small" terrorist organizations are able to control so many areas - the civilians agree with them and support them as long as they don't have to commit attrocities themselves.

You are a moron.

[Nick Young]

I know you & much of America (especially media) want for such a thing to exist for what purposes but there is no such thing, if you are a terrorist (criminal, psycho, whatever, same shit etc.) you are no Muslim... especially not if you act like what you do is in the name of Islam...

There is no such thing, if you want to call it "islamic terrorism" then you might aswell call it just ISLAM.... no difference... you cant call it "islamic radicalism" either... none of it... a radical muslim is the one who exaggerates his devotion / practices / thoughts to Islam, its the very LAST person to do anybody harm, thats a radical muslim...

Radical yes
Terrorist yes
Muslim/islam no

"Islamic Mentally Ill Person" is more what i would prefer to hear if you must use the word Islam/Muslim, such thing can exist... mental illness is normal and thats what ALL those **** terrorists are...
This ****ing pro-Turkey Hamas apologist ISIS supporter doe:facepalm

[poido123]

Leave my hairline outta this.


:roll: :roll:

[pauk]

This ****ing pro-Turkey Hamas apologist ISIS supporter doe:facepalm

I support Turkey, Hamas, ISIS now.... :oldlol:

The way you talk about Islam, how you think what they are doing is also Islam, how you call them Muslim, how much you talk about them, not to mention your attitude/stupidity, you sound more like a ISIS supporter and/or even a damn member, like a ISIS sponsor or something, might aswell join them...

PS: Turkey tho, dunno, its nice i guess, was in Bodrum last summer, whats your beef with Turkey?

[Nick Young]

I support Turkey, Hamas, ISIS now.... :oldlol:

You have a long and proud history of supporting these organizations on ISH.


The way you talk about Islam, how you think what they are doing is also Islam, how you call them Muslim, how much you talk about them, not to mention your attitude/stupidity, you sound more like a ISIS supporter and/or even a damn member, like a ISIS sponsor or something, might aswell join them...

Stop projecting.


PS: Turkey tho, dunno, its nice i guess, was in Bodrum last summer, whats your beef with Turkey?
Of course you were.

[pauk]

Never go full Nick Young....

Dont worry man, one day your cerebral cortex will develope.

[imdaman99]

Learning Arabic grammar.

Having a pure heart and an intention to seek the truth of things.

Supplementing Qu'ran with a strong foundation of high-quality Hadith and of course applying the Sunnah.

The Qu'ran REPEATEDLY over and over and over and over again reminds people of the Day of Judgment, simmering blazing fires that are infinity times more painful than any pregnancy or spinal tap, and "Allah knows what is revealed and concealed in any hearts." If you don't have hope in the justice of the Book, I don't know what to tell you Poido. All things will be revealed, eventually, and everything will be recompensed for in the Hereafter. I hope this gives comfort in your heart and you really internalize Divine Justice.


The Qu'ran was revelated when Muhammad (PBUH) was at war with Quraysh, other scattered tribes, Abu Lahab, Abu Jahl, and others so naturally it's going to have standards of conduct for war-time in addition to others. You don't turn the other cheek and let your tribe get destroyed. That's not fitrah.
As always, great post. Qiyamat or as everyone knows, Day of Judgement will separate the sinners from the lesser sinners (nobody is perfect, outside of a select few :oldlol: )

I don't go around trying to spread Islam, I don't need that. I prefer everyone to be a genuine good person. There are other ways of tasting heaven than Shahadah. A good person that spreads joy and love instead of anger and hate will be heaven bound, I have no doubt about that. Whether you are a person of the book, or an uneducated homeless man with no religion.

These terrorists committing violence for 'the sake of Islam' have another thing coming to them. God cannot be fooled. He knows what is in your heart. Everyone gets what they deserve, if not in this world than definitely in the hereafter. This is the main reason to believe in there being a hereafter.

[pauk]

You are so full of shit and misguided. I don't even say that due to this thread, but I say it more in regards with how deep rooted and ingrained in your way of thinking you are. What I'm saying has nothing to do with religion, but rather how ignorant and uninformed you are.

You can't misinterpret a piece of text or literature? Yes pauk, you can, especially religious ones, hence such divide within specific religions themselves.

Indoctrinating? Sure buddy. The fact is, all these religious texts have extremely violent parts in them. My last girlfriend was raised extremely religiously growing up, and she said she had nightmares as a little kid due to being read some of the old testament, etc.
You can say something isn't this based off of this, or whatever you want, but the fact is, the inspiration to do some of these things comes from these particular pieces of texts, which are interpreted in so many different ways all over the world. Even person to person has many different and varying opinions on simple phrases out of these religious texts.

Religion has been the cause of how many wars? How many of the worlds problems throughout history? Even now? Where does most of the global tension now stem from now?
But nah, you can't misinterpret the Bible or Quran, or any other religious texts. :oldlol:

Maybe you need to wake up and realise that religion and the way it has been and still is taught can be a problem.

Not if you do as Jefferson Money said above, thats how i meant.

[pauk]

But seriously, Nick... your attitude is insane, i just hope you aint like this irl, i really hope that, for those around you's sake... hopefully you are just venting your inner demons here, yes its annoying but at least you dont let that crap out into the world, if thats the case then please go ahead... i would gladly help so you feel better faster, lets go, with me now, "**** MUSLIMS!!!! DEATH TO ALLLLL!!! WOOOHOOOO!! 'MURICA!! BALD EAGLEZZZZ!!"

...and oh sorry about me saying Bald Eagle's would lose against a bigger / badder Eagle, thats bs, Bald Eagle > Lion.

[Nick Young]

But seriously, Nick... your attitude is insane, i just hope you aint like this irl, i really hope that, for those around you's sake... hopefully you are just venting your inner demons here, yes its annoying but at least you dont let that crap out into the world, so please go ahead...
My attitude of hating ISIS and calling out terrorism apologists?:confusedshrug:

Would you rather I make excuses for Islamic terrorists and rapists like you do?

Yes. I am the bad guy here.
:hammerhead:

[pauk]

My attitude of hating ISIS and calling out terrorism apologists?:confusedshrug:

Thats excellent, thats good, even though you do that to much, worry about it to much (not good for you man, **** them!), still, good.


Would you rather I make excuses for Islamic terrorists and rapists like you do?

How the **** did anything i say made you interpret it to that insane completely opposite delusion!? :roll:

[Nick Young]

How the **** did anything i say made you interpret it to that insane completely opposite delusion!? :roll:
Your long posting history of being pro-Turkey, anti-Kurd, and constantly apologizing for Hamas and making excuses for Palestinians when they murder people in terrorist attacks, and blaming "the West" every time ISIS or other muslim terrorists murder people.

[Trollsmasher]

You are a moron.
don't blow yourself up:lol

muzzie psycho

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

don't blow yourself up:lol

muzzie psycho

You mad that you recently said any European who converts to Islam should be killed?

Thus proving you are the foolish violent one

you mad you calling muzzies morons but like a moron you are dead wrong about pauks character. You the kinda nikka that lost every game of Clue growing up :oldlol: and organic chem fuhgettt about it. Deductive logic in you there is naught !

you mad you spent your attention on LeBron instead of the Good Lord.

Oh you mad cuz you sad you sad cuz you bad cuz you sad cuz you mad.

[Trollsmasher]

You mad that you recently said any European who converts to Islam should be killed?

Thus proving you are the foolish violent one

you mad you calling muzzies morons but like a moron you are dead wrong about pauks character. You the kinda nikka that lost every game of Clue growing up :oldlol: and organic chem fuhgettt about it. Deductive logic in you there is naught !

you mad you spent your attention on LeBron instead of the Good Lord.

Oh you mad cuz you sad you sad cuz you bad cuz you sad cuz you mad.
what are you even trying to say, hoodrat?:lol

black muzzies are the world's greatest irony:lol

[red1]

I trust someone who is religious more than an atheist 10 times out of 10

[Patrick Chewing]

Your goal as a Christian is to strive to do good works on Earth and increase in faith. You had JUST STATED you wanted Bibles to be given to schoolchildren. Dude, PLEASE stay consistent for your soul Chewing. And you know lust and seduction can take you in under its spell and have you forgetting about the Reality after.

Forward-thinking implies the production of technology and advancing in knowledge and civilization. Iran and Pakistan, the two nations arguably closest and strictest in adherence to Islam are slowly but surely developing in those areas. Covering up women to inhibit lust in men is not a detriment to that.


Man, please. I dated a girl who only wanted to have sex like once a week. It's scarred me for life. I need all the ass I can get. It consumes me. The more Arab women show the skin, the more girls I can hit up.

And when I say forward-thinking, I'm hoping you are one of those people too. Leave the religion at home or for the church/mosque. Don't let it dictate the way you live your lives.

God Bless. Jesus #1

[Dresta]

As always, great post. Qiyamat or as everyone knows, Day of Judgement will separate the sinners from the lesser sinners (nobody is perfect, outside of a select few :oldlol: )

I don't go around trying to spread Islam, I don't need that. I prefer everyone to be a genuine good person. There are other ways of tasting heaven than Shahadah. A good person that spreads joy and love instead of anger and hate will be heaven bound, I have no doubt about that. Whether you are a person of the book, or an uneducated homeless man with no religion.

These terrorists committing violence for 'the sake of Islam' have another thing coming to them. God cannot be fooled. He knows what is in your heart. Everyone gets what they deserve, if not in this world than definitely in the hereafter. This is the main reason to believe in there being a hereafter.
That is very true. Anyone with any real life experience knows that there's no such thing as earthly justice, and therefore the human need for justice, can only be found in an appeal to something higher.

That's why all efforts of the State to dole out a kind of absolute justice have always ended in pitiful failure. Human beings long for something outside of their own existence, because it doesn't take a genius to recognise that human life is completely unjust, from start to finish.

On the other hand, Pauk's argument, that in being a terrorist you somehow are excluded from being a muslim, is simply absurd. If muslims lived under a regime that sought the extermination of muslims, what would make muslim terrorism 'un-muslim' in that case? Those types of argument are completely illogical.