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Angel Face
01-24-2016, 09:43 PM
Regular Season: 30.1 (#2 all-time)
Playoffs: 22.5 (#29 all-time)
Finals: 18.6 (#43 all-time)

Biggest drop off from regular season to finals ppg in history.

Greatest choker? :confusedshrug:

KiiiiNG
01-24-2016, 09:44 PM
Never seen a thread like this before

Finally some fresh material

theaussieguy
01-24-2016, 09:50 PM
because hes the most overrated POS in the history of the L and got his stats against tiny ass white bois. OH WOW SUCH TALENT, lmao, sure he was an athletic freak but hes like Lebron, just not a baller.

WayOfWade
01-24-2016, 10:08 PM
I would say Bill Russel but I haven't done too much research on the subject.
And KiiiiNG, did you get my PM?

Lebron23
01-24-2016, 10:14 PM
But seriously wilt wasted his energy padding his stats in the regular season. Bill Russell also had plenty of good offensive teammates. Celtics were just a more talented team than some of Wilt's Chamberlain's teams, and better coaching.

Deuce Bigalow
01-24-2016, 10:29 PM
Lebron is a superior finals performer than Kobe, and Wilt.
Lebron is 2/6

STATUTORY
01-24-2016, 10:30 PM
same way a man who claimed to slept with 10000 chick has no progeny to speak of

AnaheimLakers24
01-24-2016, 10:30 PM
Lebron is a superior finals performer than Kobe, and Wilt.
Any you have the smallest ***** on the forum

Young X
01-24-2016, 10:41 PM
There's way too much negatively and sometimes disrespect towards Wilt on this forum.

He did some GREAT things in his career but nobody discusses them.

It's fine to bring up his flaws but what about his great moments? What about when he averaged 24/24/8 and won a ring in the same season? You never hear about that.

With the way people talk about him you would swear he wasn't one of the greatest players of all-time.

Wade's Rings
01-24-2016, 10:49 PM
There's way too much negatively and sometimes disrespect towards Wilt on this forum.

He did some GREAT things in his career but nobody discusses them.

It's fine to bring up his flaws but what about his great moments? What about when he averaged 24/24/8 and won a ring in the same season? You never hear about that.

With the way people talk about him you would swear he wasn't one of the greatest players of all-time.

One of the reasons is because of Laz and his constant double-standards when it comes to Wilt while he constantly harps on other players. He constantly posts shit with 0 context and will deflect when it comes to other players but Wilt is some god.

Young X
01-24-2016, 11:01 PM
One of the reasons is because of Laz and his constant double-standards when it comes to Wilt while he constantly harps on other players. He constantly posts shit with 0 context and will deflect when it comes to other players but Wilt is some god.Yeah, that doesn't help. Every great player has fans/stans like that though. It should be more balanced, Wilt did alot of great things that should be recognized.

Deuce Bigalow
01-24-2016, 11:07 PM
Carried by the MDE.
2/3 without "MDE"

Too easy

Mr. Jabbar
01-24-2016, 11:15 PM
Lebron is a superior finals performer than Kobe, and Wilt.

:roll:

Bankaii
01-25-2016, 12:50 AM
Lebron is a superior finals performer than Kobe, and Wilt.
Well, he's not lying.

HighFlyer23
01-25-2016, 01:00 AM
Wilt sucked and was a ******

livinglegend
01-25-2016, 01:03 AM
Lebron is a superior finals performer than Kobe, and Wilt.
FACT

sd3035
01-25-2016, 01:31 AM
Wilt was a mental midget, that era's Lebald

deja vu
01-25-2016, 04:21 AM
Because he's overrated as hell.

He puts up gaudy stats during the regular season playing 48 minutes per game and statpadding during blowouts.

The post-season is different because opponents are better and they were able to counter Wilt's offense. Which explains the big drop-off.

knicksman
01-25-2016, 04:23 AM
Just like bran, they statpad like crazy in the RS. Taking only layups to preserve fg%. But the nearer you are to the championship, the harder it is to statpad, so the 2 of them get exposed.

JohnFreeman
01-25-2016, 04:24 AM
Bit like LeBron..

amirite?

FreezingTsmoove
01-25-2016, 04:26 AM
Lebron is a superior finals performer than Kobe, and Wilt.


:roll: :roll: :roll:

Lebron23
01-25-2016, 04:27 AM
Just like bran, they statpad like crazy in the RS. Taking only layups to preserve fg%. But the nearer you are to the championship, the harder it is to statpad, so the 2 of them get exposed.


You really love talking out of your @$$. Lebron averaged more points in the playoffs than in the regular season unlike Wilt.

CavaliersFTW
01-25-2016, 04:33 AM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-eJhr4-Fotm0/Vl_IcB7eCgI/AAAAAAAAHXY/cz6PdKePmio/s1280-Ic42/Wilt1967.jpg

feyki
01-25-2016, 05:49 AM
This is going to like 1-9 .

His average is 33 points per game until his 29 .

He played more all around basketball in 67 and 68 ( 22-29-9 , 23-24-6.5) . And his Lakers era came , after 32 years old and with Elgin,West,Gail . Who needs score in that team ?

Deuce Bigalow
01-25-2016, 05:59 AM
This is going to like 1-9 .

His average is 33 points per game until his 29 .

He played more all around basketball in 67 and 68 ( 22-29-9 , 23-24-6.5) . And his Lakers era came , after 32 years old and with Elgin,West,Gail . Who needs score in that team ?
In the RS until age 29 he averaged 40..

feyki
01-25-2016, 06:03 AM
In the RS until age 29 he averaged 40..

He didn't play against garbage teams . He played against goat team and goat player a lot of times . I hope you know what this mean .

jstern
01-25-2016, 06:14 AM
I'm not really familiar with Wilt, but when he averaged 50ppg at that level, he wasn't going the Finals. When he did he was older and playing a different role for his team.

aj1987
01-25-2016, 08:25 AM
He didn't play against garbage teams . He played against goat team and goat player a lot of times . I hope you know what this mean .
MJ played in the '60's?

feyki
01-25-2016, 12:23 PM
MJ played in the '60's?

If Jordan played in 60's , we wouldn't need Wilt-Jordan comparison .

riseagainst
01-25-2016, 02:37 PM
Lebron is 2/6


:lol
:roll:

RepMe
01-25-2016, 02:44 PM
I would say Bill Russel but I haven't done too much research on the subject.
And KiiiiNG, did you get my PM?
This was my thought a well. I just assume that more games against difficult opponents lowered his stats in the playoffs.

LAZERUSS
01-25-2016, 03:01 PM
Regular Season: 30.1 (#2 all-time)
Playoffs: 22.5 (#29 all-time)
Finals: 18.6 (#43 all-time)

Biggest drop off from regular season to finals ppg in history.

Greatest choker? :confusedshrug:

Yep..."choked."

Here are his 23 "must win" playoff game averages...


12-11 W-L record

31.1 ppg (Regular season career average was 30.1 ppg)
26.1 rpg (Regular season career average was 22.9 rpg)
3.4 apg (Regular season career average was 4.4 apg)
.540 FG% (Regular season career average was .540 FG%)


3 games of 50+ points (including the ONLY THREE by a GOAT candidate)

5 games of 40+ points (including a Finals 40+ elimination game)

13 games of 30+ points

6 games of 30+ rebounds

20 games of 20+ rebounds

But, how about I give you EVERY ONE of his 37 "must win" and "series clinching" games...


Wilt actually played in 37 "elimination games",...games where either his team faced elimination, or could have clinched the series:

1. W: 53-22-2, 24-42 FG/FGA

2. W: 50-35-2, 22-42

3. L: 26-24-0, 8-18

4. L: 33-23-1, 13-29

5. W: 56-35-1, 22-48

6. W: 32-21-1, 12-29

7. L: 22-22-3, 7-15

8. W: 39-30-?, 19-29

9. L: 30-27-2, 12-28

10. W: 38-26-5, 14-22, 10 blks (Triple-Double)

11. W: 30-26-4, 13-22, 13 blks (Triple-Double)

12. L: 30-32-2, 12-15

13. L: 46-34-?, 19-34

14. W: 18-27-9, 7-14

15. W: 29-36-13, 10-16, 7 blks (Triple-Double)

16. W: 24-23-4, 8-13

17. W: 25-27-3, 10-19

18. L: 28-30-7, 11-21

19. L: 20-27-8, 6-21

20. L: 14-34-5, 4-9

21. W: 11-25-1, 5-9

22. W: 16-29-3, 5-11, 16 blks (Triple-Double)

23. L: 8-18-4, 1-5

24. L: 18-27-3, 7-8

25. W: 36-14-3, 12-20

26. W: 12-26-11, 4-11, 11 blks (Quad-Double)

27. W: 30-27-6, 11-18, 11 blks (Triple-Double)

28. W: 45-27-3, 20-27

29. L: 21-24-4, 10-16

30. W: 25-19-9, 7-12

31. L: 23-12-4, 10-21

32. W: 8-31-8, 4-6

33. W: 20-24-2, 8-12, 10 blks (Triple-Double)

34. W: 24-29-4, 10-14, 8 blks

35. W: 21-28-4, 10-17, 8 blks

36. W: 5-22-7, 2-2

37. L: 23-21-3, 9-16


W-L : 24-13

Here were Wilt's averages in those 37 games:

29.5 ppg

26.1 rpg

4.2 apg (missing one game)

.546 FG% (in post-seasons that shot about .440 on average in that span.)

Keep in mind that 24 of those 37 games came after his "scoring seasons" (59-60 thru 65-66)

CavaliersFTW
01-25-2016, 03:03 PM
Yep..."choked."

Here are his 23 "must win" playoff game averages...



But, how about I give you EVERY ONE of his 37 "must win" and "series clinching" games...
and 10.4 blocks per game

LAZERUSS
01-25-2016, 03:29 PM
BTW, Wilt was SLAUGHTERING his OPPOSING Centers in his career playoff H2H's...including RUSSELL....whom he faced EIGHT times. He massively outscored, outrebounded, and outshot Russell in those 49 games, and outscored, outrebounded, and outshot him in EVERY ONE of those EIGHT playoff series.

aj1987
01-25-2016, 04:12 PM
BTW, Wilt was SLAUGHTERING his OPPOSING Centers in his career playoff H2H's...including RUSSELL....whom he faced EIGHT times. He massively outscored, outrebounded, and outshot Russell in those 49 games, and outscored, outrebounded, and outshot him in EVERY ONE of those EIGHT playoff series.
With all that "slaughtering", dude must've won majority of them, right?

LAZERUSS
01-25-2016, 04:14 PM
With all that "slaughtering", dude must've won majority of them, right?

Well, Chamberlain had FAR more success against Russell in their post-season H2H's, than Shaq did against Ostertag. Wilt's TEAMs went 20-29 against Russell's, while Ostertag just crushed Shaq, 8-1 in their playoff H2H's.

Ostertag >>>> Shaq

aj1987
01-25-2016, 04:36 PM
Well, Chamberlain had FAR more success against Russell in their post-season H2H's, than Shaq did against Ostertag. Wilt's TEAMs went 20-29 against Russell's, while Ostertag just crushed Shaq, 8-1 in their playoff H2H's.

Ostertag >>>> Shaq
How many rings and FMVP's does Ostertag have? Now do the same for Ilt and Russell.

Shaq >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ilt

LAZERUSS
01-25-2016, 05:23 PM
How many rings and FMVP's does Ostertag have? Now do the same for Ilt and Russell.

Shaq >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ilt

Well we can safely assume that had a prime Chamberlain faced a washed up Smits (who was never worth a dime in his prime defensively), a 35 year old helpless Mutombo, and a 6-11 clod McCulloch, who couldn't guard a statue and was a career 6 ppg scorer in his four years in the NBA, as well as the huge under-dog Pacers, the huge under-dog Sixers, and the pathetic Nets, in the Finals, and he would have three more rings, and probably put up 40+ ppg Finals.

TommyGriffin
01-25-2016, 05:25 PM
and 10.4 blocks per game

Wilt never recorded 10 blocks in a game.

LAZERUSS
01-25-2016, 05:26 PM
Wilt never recorded 10 blocks in a game.

I bet you have NEVER researched that statement, have you?

ClipperRevival
01-25-2016, 05:33 PM
It's all about 1968 and 1969. Any discussion that doesn't include these two seasons when discussing Wilt's career is simply not complete.

The guy had the HCA, better team, and simply let his team choke it away. He was up 3-1 in 1968 and 3-2 in 1969. Both times, he lost game 7 at home. And to make it worse, to Russell in his last 2 years in the league, when he has on his last legs and the Celtics themselves were an aging team.

Wilt's game 6 and 7 in 1968: 17.0 PPG, 38% FT (7.0/18.5)
Wilt's game 6 and 7 in 1969: 13.0 PPG, 44% FT (5.0/11.5)

That's not GOAT material. If you are THAT great, you impose your will on the game when the team needs it most and wrap up that single victory.

Now let's roll in the Laz excuses. :banana:

TommyGriffin
01-25-2016, 05:34 PM
I bet you have NEVER researched that statement, have you?

Can you prove otherwise with out relying solely on highly unreliable eye witness testimony?

LAZERUSS
01-25-2016, 05:39 PM
Can you prove otherwise with out relying solely on highly unreliable eye witness testimony?

If you have excel, go to nbastats.net, and click on Wilt's game-by-game logs.
Of course, how about this...

http://www.si.com/vault/1969/01/27/559068/on-topbut-in-trouble


So the Lakers walk the ball up the court, get arranged and then, as VBK says, start "to grind it out." The Lakers do not often make 100 points now. "Defense is the thing we're really living on," van Breda Kolff admits, and Chamberlain has been superb, sometimes even awesome, on defense. In a recent game on national television he blocked 23 shots against Phoenix

ClipperRevival
01-25-2016, 05:39 PM
Wilt lost the NCAA championship game while Russell won. Not a coincidence. Why did Wilt lose? Because the offense was all about him. So what did the opponent do? Crowd the f*ck out of him and make it harder for him to get the ball. Ilt fans have to understand that bball is a team game. Just because you put up great numbers doesn't mean you are maximizing the talent on your team. You might be getting yours at the expense of offensive flow. If you don't know what I'm talking about, you will never get it.

warriorfan
01-25-2016, 05:43 PM
Wilt lost the NCAA championship game while Russell won. Not a coincidence. Why did Wilt lose? Because the offense was all about him. So what did the opponent do? Crowd the f*ck out of him and make it harder for him to get the ball. Ilt fans have to understand that bball is a team game. Just because you put up great numbers doesn't mean you are maximizing the talent on your team. You might be getting yours at the expense of offensive flow. If you don't know what I'm talking about, you will never get it.

This man gets it.

warriorfan
01-25-2016, 05:45 PM
If you have excel, go to nbastats.net, and click on Wilt's game-by-game logs.
Of course, how about this...

http://www.si.com/vault/1969/01/27/559068/on-topbut-in-trouble

I also read in an article that Wilt benches 500 pounds and one time wrestled a mountain lion.

Must mean it's true!!!



























:yaohappy:

LAZERUSS
01-25-2016, 05:45 PM
It's all about 1968 and 1969. Any discussion that doesn't include these two seasons when discussing Wilt's career is simply not complete.

The guy had the HCA, better team, and simply let his team choke it away. He was up 3-1 in 1968 and 3-2 in 1969. Both times, he lost game 7 at home. And to make it worse, to Russell in his last 2 years in the league, when he has on his last legs and the Celtics themselves were an aging team.

Wilt's game 6 and 7 in 1968: 17.0 PPG, 38% FT (7.0/18.5)
Wilt's game 6 and 7 in 1969: 13.0 PPG, 44% FT (5.0/11.5)

That's not GOAT material. If you are THAT great, you impose your will on the game when the team needs it most and wrap up that single victory.

Now let's roll in the Laz excuses. :banana:


Clipperclown with the same trash that has been destroyed here many times.


That Wilt was even playing in the '68 EDF's was a miracle. Much less DOMINATING it with a 22-25-7 series...

but for the benefit of those whop haven't seen your pathetic Wilt-bashing before...

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9328006&postcount=13


It was deemed remarkable that they even got to the Division Finals vs. Boston with all the injuries. Luke Jackson was playing with a badly pulled hamstring. When Lakers star Magic pulled his hamstring in '89 Finals, he could not even play the final game at all & much of the third game. While the 1989 Lakers get excused due to injury, the '68 Sixers do not. Back in the old days they were expected to gut it out under worse playing conditions, as Jackson did when he played the entire 1966 season on a broken leg, casually shrugging it off as shin splints.

There were times during the NY series when the hobbled Sixers were getting killed on the boards, as Bellamy & Reed were feasting on the offensive glass. They played Games 4, 5, and 6 consecutively. No days off in between.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwCmKvHJNoQ&t=16m20s



New York Times - Apr 18, 1968

But injuries have depleted the team that ended the Celtics' eight-year reign last season. Wally Jones, the jump-shooting Philadelphia guard with the game-breaking touch, is doubtful for Friday. He aggravated his right knee, first injured during the series with the New York Knickerbockers, early in the opening quarter and did not return.

Wilt Chamberlain, the 7-foot pillar of the 76ers, produced 20 points but was in obvious pain with an ailing right leg.




Williamson Daily News - Apr 10, 1968






DELAWARE COUNTY - April 13, 1968

Club Rated 'Most Courageous' By Hannum as Injuries Mount

PHILADELPHIA (AP) - The Philadelphia 76ers could be billed as the best touring troupe In basketball. All they need is a doctor to complete the cast.

Going into the fourth game Sunday of their National Basketball Association playoff series with the Boston Celtics, the 76ers are hurting from head to toe.

So what's new? Injuries have plagued the defending NBA champions since the opening of the season.

"Alex Hannum says this is the most courageous team he's ever coached," says Harvey Pollack, the 76ers' statistician. "The locker room looks like a hospital ward every time I walk in."

Pollack ticked off some of the cases, which read like a medical diary:

-Wilt Chamberlain (partial tear of the calf muscle in his right leg, a strain in his right thigh and an injured right toe):

-Wally Jones (injured knee cartilage):

-Luke Jackson (pulled hamstring muscle):

-Hal Greer (bursitus in his right knee):

-And, Billy Cunningham (broken right wrist).

"That's not mentioning (rookie) Jim Reid who had a knee operation after injuring it the first game of the season," said Pollack, "and Larry Costello," the veteran guard who tore an ankle tendon after one-third of the season was gone.

The most recent injury was to Chamberlain in Friday night's Eastern Division playoff contest with the Celtics. The dipper was given whirlpool treatments for the calf muscle tear, but Pollack wasn't sure how he'd respond.

The 76ers have nine men in uniform for the best-of-seven playoffs, which they lead, two games to one. But whether they'll have anybody left for the finals against the Western Division winner is anybody's guess.

The team's troubles multiplied in the Eastern Division semifinals against the New York Knickerbockers. Cunningham broke his wrist, knocking him out for the season, Jones and Jackson suffered their injuries and Chamberlain aggravated his perennial toe injury.

And when Boston thumped the 76ers in the opening game of their playoffs here last Friday, some predicted a quick knockout of the injury-riddled champs.

But Philadelphia whacked Boston two straight, including Thursday where an injury actually helped the 76ers cause, points out Pollack.

How so?

"Well, Chamberlain was hurt and he couldn't turn around to score-so he kept feeding Greer, and he scored 31," explained the statistician.

BTW, KAJ missed two chunks of two different seasons with a broken hand...
now how about Wilt in the clinching game five of the '72 Finals...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilt_Chamberlain

[QUOTE]In Game 3, Chamberlain scored 26 points and grabbed 20 rebounds for another Lakers win, and in a fiercely battled Game 4, the Lakers center was playing with five fouls late in the game. Having never fouled out in his career

LAZERUSS
01-25-2016, 05:50 PM
Wilt lost the NCAA championship game while Russell won. Not a coincidence. Why did Wilt lose? Because the offense was all about him. So what did the opponent do? Crowd the f*ck out of him and make it harder for him to get the ball. Ilt fans have to understand that bball is a team game. Just because you put up great numbers doesn't mean you are maximizing the talent on your team. You might be getting yours at the expense of offensive flow. If you don't know what I'm talking about, you will never get it.

How about MJ? Played with Worthy, Perkins, Brad Daugherty, and Kenny Smith in his three years at UNC, and won ONE title, and in which the FMVP was, you guessed it, James Worthy. And after Worthy left, MJ gagged twice with HEAVILY-FAVORED teams and losing to teams with zero NBA talent.

Of course, it was ALWAYS about Mike. And he couldn't win until he was playing with supporting casts that could win 55+ without him, and lost a seven game series, by ONE PLAY, to a team that would lose a game seven in the Finals by four points...all with MJ's replacement, the now legendary PETE MYERS and his 6 ppg in that series.

aj1987
01-25-2016, 06:30 PM
Well we can safely assume that had a prime Chamberlain faced a washed up Smits (who was never worth a dime in his prime defensively), a 35 year old helpless Mutombo, and a 6-11 clod McCulloch, who couldn't guard a statue and was a career 6 ppg scorer in his four years in the NBA, as well as the huge under-dog Pacers, the huge under-dog Sixers, and the pathetic Nets, in the Finals, and he would have three more rings, and probably put up 40+ ppg Finals.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Dude is a career 18 PPG scorer in the Finals. 22 in the Playoffs. Dude couldn't even hit 30 PPG in the Finals, when he was averaging 37 or something in the RS. Heck, Shaq was putting up 27 PPG on 54% shooting against Timmy AND D-Rob.

LAZERUSS
01-25-2016, 07:21 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Dude is a career 18 PPG scorer in the Finals. 22 in the Playoffs. Dude couldn't even hit 30 PPG in the Finals, when he was averaging 37 or something in the RS. Heck, Shaq was putting up 27 PPG on 54% shooting against Timmy AND D-Rob.

A PRIME "scoring" Wilt went to ONE Final, and hung a 29-28 .517 FG% (in a post-season that shot .420...or the equivalent of shooting about .615 in today's .500 eFG% era)_...against, you guessed...RUSSELL and the highest defensive rated team of their era, and likely all-time.

Meanwhile, Shaq's numbers crumbled across the board against Robinson's Spurs from '99 thru '03. How come? He even had a series, at his peak, of 21 ppg on a .447 against them...in a season in which he had averaged 27 ppg on a .579.

How come Wilt didn't play in more Finals in his prime? Maybe because he was facing the GOAT Dynasty, and the GOAT defensive center, and the GOAT defensive teams in the first or second rounds EVERY year. And he STILL had runs against Russell of 30-27, 34-27, 29-28, 30-31, and 28-30.

I have said it before, but Russell dramatically inflated his post-season stats in his FIVE Finals against the Lakers from '62 thru '68. 23 ppg series, 24 ppg series, hell an 18 ppg series on a .702 FG%. How many times did Wilt face the Lakers in the post-season in the decade of the 60's? ZERO. And I am not exaggerating when I believe, without looking up the numbers, that he averaged 35-40 ppg in his 86 H2H's against the Lakers in that decade. Hell, he had 42 games of 40+. He even had multiple 60+ point games against them, and then games of 72 and 78!

Again...had a PRIME Wilt faced the '00 Pacers, or the '01 Sixers, or the '02 Nets (or even the '06 Mavs, and Dampier), and he would have slaughtering those teams as much as a prime Shaq did, and likely even moreso. Especially of the NBA would have allowed him to do this to Mutombo...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ3FXLyNFew

As for stumble-bum Smits and the mouse McCulloch... :roll: :roll: :roll:

3ball
01-25-2016, 08:56 PM
Wilt didn't really "disappear"

It was just evidently clear that Wilt's teams performed better against the best competition and in the playoffs when he was scoring less, and focusing more on defense, rebounding, and offense facilitation.

Kind of like Bill Russell.

Asukal
01-25-2016, 09:03 PM
Loseruzz the cherrypicker. :oldlol: :lol :roll:

This is the only formula I need to slay you old man.

30>22>18=2

:oldlol: :lol :roll:

3ball
01-25-2016, 09:06 PM
Loseruzz the cherrypicker. :oldlol: :lol :roll:

This is the only formula I need to slay you old man.

30>22>18=2

:oldlol: :lol :roll:
:roll: :yaohappy:

That ether.

It's a shame he couldn't achieve his offense in a way that would allow his team to win

Horatio33
01-25-2016, 09:34 PM
For the STRONGEST, MOST SKILLED, FASTEST, MOST ATHLETIC player of all time, he needs an awful lot of EXCUSES.

ISHGoat
01-25-2016, 10:00 PM
Any you have the smallest ***** on the forum

you just admitted that you have seen every dick on the forum

sounds like Vanessa Bryant

1987_Lakers
06-11-2016, 02:57 PM
It's all about 1968 and 1969. Any discussion that doesn't include these two seasons when discussing Wilt's career is simply not complete.

The guy had the HCA, better team, and simply let his team choke it away. He was up 3-1 in 1968 and 3-2 in 1969. Both times, he lost game 7 at home. And to make it worse, to Russell in his last 2 years in the league, when he has on his last legs and the Celtics themselves were an aging team.

Wilt's game 6 and 7 in 1968: 17.0 PPG, 38% FT (7.0/18.5)
Wilt's game 6 and 7 in 1969: 13.0 PPG, 44% FT (5.0/11.5)

That's not GOAT material. If you are THAT great, you impose your will on the game when the team needs it most and wrap up that single victory.

Now let's roll in the Laz excuses. :banana:


CHOKE

LAZERUSS
06-11-2016, 03:02 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12081586&postcount=32

Jameerthefear
06-11-2016, 03:07 PM
Wilt is the biggest choker of all time.

AceManIII
06-11-2016, 03:07 PM
Wilt "hurt" in Finals - A lesser man wouldn't even be playing! Wilt still dominated though!!!

Curry "hurt" in Finals - Curry is carried by his 60+ plus win team!!! And he's a choker! Chokurry!!

:lol :lol :lol

LAZERUSS
06-11-2016, 03:09 PM
Wilt "hurt" in Finals - A lesser man wouldn't even be playing! Wilt still dominated though!!!

Curry "hurt" in Finals - Curry is carried by his 60+ plus win team!!! And he's a choker! Chokurry!!

:lol :lol :lol

Chokurry losing out on a FMVP to a role player (Mr. 0/11), and being carried by teammates in this year's Finals.

Chokurry.

Jameerthefear
06-11-2016, 03:10 PM
Wilt "hurt" in Finals - A lesser man wouldn't even be playing! Wilt still dominated though!!!

Curry "hurt" in Finals - Curry is carried by his 60+ plus win team!!! And he's a choker! Chokurry!!

:lol :lol :lol
:roll: Laz is a joke

LAZERUSS
06-11-2016, 03:12 PM
:roll: Laz is a joke

Speaking of jokes, ... still watching anime porn with your 10 year old girl friend?

1987_Lakers
06-11-2016, 03:15 PM
Speaking of jokes, ... still watching anime porn with your 10 year old girl friend?

Lazeruss getting upset so he resorts to personal attacks.:oldlol:

Can't handle the fact that Wilt is the biggest choker in NBA History.

Jameerthefear
06-11-2016, 03:20 PM
Speaking of jokes, ... still watching anime porn with your 10 year old girl friend?
What's that got to do with Wilt's choking? :oldlol:

JellyBean
06-11-2016, 04:53 PM
Killer instinct.

Old Man River
06-11-2016, 05:17 PM
he was gay which of course means he was beta. betas get nervous in big situations and choke.

LAZERUSS
06-11-2016, 06:10 PM
he was gay which of course means he was beta. betas get nervous in big situations and choke.

Not that anyone gives a flying fk...

but what in the hell did that make a PEAK Kareem?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilt_Chamberlain

[QUOTE]In the post-season, the Lakers swept the Chicago Bulls,[92] then went on to face the Milwaukee Bucks of young superstar center and regular-season MVP Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (formerly Lew Alcindor). The matchup between Chamberlain and Abdul-Jabbar was hailed by LIFE magazine as the greatest matchup in all of sports. Chamberlain would help lead the Lakers past Abdul-Jabbar and the Bucks in six games.[92] Particularly, Chamberlain was lauded for his performance in Game 6, which the Lakers won 104

Asukal
06-11-2016, 09:28 PM
Not that anyone gives a flying fk...

but what in the hell did that make a PEAK Kareem?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilt_Chamberlain



This from a 35 year old Wilt, well past his prime, and playing on a surgically repaired knee.

Damn...KAJ sure was a puss.

You need to get your brain "surgically repaired". :hammerhead:

knicksman
06-11-2016, 10:46 PM
Just give it up laz. Youre a loser just like your boy

AceManIII
06-11-2016, 10:56 PM
Chokurry losing out on a FMVP to a role player (Mr. 0/11), and being carried by teammates in this year's Finals.

Chokurry.

Wilt lost out on Finals MVP to his TEAMMATE in a finals series they LOST and was FAVORED TO WIN.

sd3035
06-11-2016, 11:12 PM
Wilt was a mental midget

hold this L
06-11-2016, 11:31 PM
Regular Season: 30.1 (#2 all-time)
Playoffs: 22.5 (#29 all-time)
Finals: 18.6 (#43 all-time)

Biggest drop off from regular season to finals ppg in history.

Greatest choker? :confusedshrug:
Wait hold on.... Laz has been making fun of Curry in these finals when his hero has averaged these pathetic numbers.. The hypocrisy is

http://img.pandawhale.com/119581-Spiderman-3-James-Franco-So-Go-gB1l.gif

keep-itreal
06-11-2016, 11:36 PM
Ilt

sd3035
06-11-2016, 11:50 PM
Lilt