FYI, yes, Curry is indeed having the greatest offensive season ever

[SuperPippen]

This is something that is supported by a plethora of statistics, as well as it is by the "eye test" that posters here like to bring up in order to support their senseless agenda.

Curry right now is currently #1 all time in the following advanced stats:

PER
Win Shares
Box Plus-Minus (Get a load of this: his offensive OBPM right now is 13. The previous high was Jordan at 9.8)


And yes, I understand that advanced stats are typically flawed, but this across-the-board level of statistical domination cannot be reasonably denied. It just can't.

Similarly, he's having a 50/40/90 season while shooting 55% of his shots as 3s, he's averaging 30 a game on an unbelievable 68% TS, and is leading all non-big men in two-point field goal percentage (just in case you thought he could only shoot 3s).


All while routinely sitting out fourth quarters and also dishing out 6.6 assists. And leading his team to what might end up being the most dominant regular season in history.


Furthermore, he routinely makes the seemingly impossible look incredibly easy like no player before in history.
https://streamable.com/arcm

:biggums:


Shots like that aren't supposed to be possible. And yet Curry makes repeatedly makes them with ease. He completely warps the floor when he's out there. Who else in NBA history has regularly gotten doubled 30 feet from the basket?

Offensively, he's better than Kobe at his peak, LeBron at his peak, and even Jordan at his. And yes, I remember watching all of these players play, and I appreciate all of them for the greatness that they possess.

But Curry right now is better than all of them on the offensive end. He's breaking the game.

[navy]

It's pretty obvious to anyone not biased. Eye test, stats, records, etc.

Only argument now is the era argument.


I saw a stat but the only real change in his game is that he somehow increased his distance from range. Shit is crazy.

[Sarcastic]

Season is not over yet. If his numbers hold, then you can proclaim his greatness. But you can't compare a full season to a half.

[32jazz]

It's pretty obvious to anyone not biased. Eye test, stats, records, etc.

Only argument now is the era argument.


.
Era is the most important argument when knuckleheads start speaking about Greatest ever.

Rules are different.

Why not just compare peers?

[SsKSpurs21]

Furthermore, he routinely makes the seemingly impossible look incredibly easy like no player before in history.
https://streamable.com/arcm

:biggums:


how do you guard this? it just baffles me!

[CavaliersFTW]

Nah, several of Wilt's are ahead

[Wade's Rings]

how do you guard this? it just baffles me!

Delly has done a good job on Curry. He plays him physical and is always with him off-ball.

[IGOTGAME]

Delly has done a good job on Curry. He plays him physical and is always with him off-ball.

Curry is a lot stronger now. The change in his body this year is remarkable

[plowking]

Nah, several of Wilt's are ahead

Which one?

Wilt only has 2 seasons that are totalling more on a per36 minute basis. In 1 of those he isn't shooting as well as Curry is from the field, and all while Curry is taking 11 three pointers.

This is including that 50ppg season.

[jongib369]

Which one?

Wilt only has 2 seasons that are totalling more on a per36 minute basis. In 1 of those he isn't shooting as well as Curry is from the field, and all while Curry is taking 11 three pointers.

This is including that 50ppg season.
Curry doesn't have the stamina Wilt did, you can't fault hI'm for that. Not that curry isn't amazing, you have to wonder how his percentages would hold up with more volume/minutes aswell. This isn't "case closed" like people are making it out to be. It's not an easy answer. There are more things on offense, like offensive rebounding

(Info will be updated as new information comes. Feel free to correct, or contribute with different players.)

PRF= Points+points from assists.

Any names with an * next to it is adjusted for assists that led to a 3 per game. Any stats from this season doesn't include the very last game the played(Missing stats from Currys game against Spurs)

In order from what I've gathered so far

Tiny 73- 56.8

Wilt 62- 55.2

Oscar 62- 53.6

Oscar 64- 53.4

Wilt 63- 51.6

*LeBron 10- 49.6

Jordan in 89- 48.5

Magic 87- 48.3

Magic 89- 48.1

*Paul 09- 47.67

*Paul 08-47.63

Baylor in 62- 47.5

*Wade 09- 47.18

Wilt 64- 46.9

Jordan 87- 46.3

Stockton 90- 46.2

*Kobe 06- 45.83

*Curry 16- 45.6

*Nash 07-45.41

West 72- 45.2

*Durant 14- 44.39

Kareem 72- 44

Bird 87- 43.3

*Wall 16- 42.35

Wilt in 68- 41.5

*Curry 14- 41

*LeBron 16- 40.29

*Jordan 97- 39.24

*Shaq 00- 38.11

*Stockton 97-36.42


Feel free to add to the discussion here. Adding Tmac and others in the next few hours

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=396741

[CavaliersFTW]

Which one?

Wilt only has 2 seasons that are totalling more on a per36 minute basis. In 1 of those he isn't shooting as well as Curry is from the field, and all while Curry is taking 11 three pointers.

This is including that 50ppg season.
Check out the thread jongib made. Several players have had more offensive impact than Curry with the basic formula of points + assists.

Per36 means jack to me. While it's got some merit and is impressive to be an efficient spark plug, you produce and help your team only in the minutes you play, not the minutes you don't.

[warriorfan]

Check out the thread jongib made. Several players have had more offensive impact than Curry with the basic formula of points + assists.

Per36 means jack to me. While it's got some merit and is impressive to be an efficient spark plug, you produce and help your team only in the minutes you play, not the minutes you don't.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[jongib369]

Check out the thread jongib made. Several players have had more offensive impact than Curry with the basic formula of points + assists.

Per36 means jack to me. While it's got some merit and is impressive to be an efficient spark plug, you produce and help your team only in the minutes you play, not the minutes you don't.

Has Curry being 18th on the list of seasons I've added so far rustled your jimmies? Don't worry man, overall this is just the *3 in the 2+*3+4=Potato Equation

You still have to put their shooting percentages, offensive rebounds, and other things into consideration rating them overall offensively.

Wilt still holds that crown thus far IMO, for scoring, percentages, offensive rebounds, passing ability etc all added up...But no doubt Curry is incredible, and one of the best scorers of all time

My all time team now would be

Wilt
Russell/Or Rodman
Bird
Jordan
Curry

[Wade's Rings]

Check out the thread jongib made. Several players have had more offensive impact than Curry with the basic formula of points + assists.

Per36 means jack to me. While it's got some merit and is impressive to be an efficient spark plug, you produce and help your team only in the minutes you play, not the minutes you don't.

Point plowking is making is that if Curry played more minutes his numbers could be better.

[CavaliersFTW]

Point plowking is making is that if Curry played more minutes his numbers could be better.
And my point is he doesn't - so they aren't

[juju151111]

He having the Goat regular season offensively. If he can sustain it through the playoffs then we can talk.

[warriorfan]

Point plowking is making is that if Curry played more minutes his numbers could be better.

this conflicts directly with his wilt agenda

dont expect to make much progress

:roll:

[jongib369]

Point plowking is making is that if Curry played more minutes his numbers could be better.
It's also assuming he maintains that efficiency, which he likely couldn't. And no one seems to be mentioning there's offensive rebounding...That's pretty HUGE on the offensive end if you ask me.

How does Curry stack up against other point guards oh his era, or in the past in terms of offensive rebounds per game? Not that if he's significantly ahead (which he int) that it would negate the overall impact a GOAT scoring g big would have with it aswell

[Springsteen]

Nah, several of Wilt's are ahead

http://www.asianjunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/StephenSmithROFL.gif

[juju151111]

It's also assuming he maintains that efficiency, which he likely couldn't. And no one seems to be mentioning there's offensive rebounding...That's pretty HUGE on the offensive end if you ask me.

How does Curry stack up against other point guards oh his era, or in the past in terms of offensive rebounds per game? Not that if he's significantly ahead (which he int) that it would negate the overall impact a GOAT scoring g big would have with it aswell
Rught now Curry is hav8ng the most efficient season ever from the perimeter and avg 30. If he keeps this pace. This will be goat offens6regular season.

[jongib369]

this conflicts directly with his wilt agenda

dont expect to make much progress

:roll:
A curry agenda not putting everything into consideration is met with a Wilt agenda, what a surprise

I know you want everyone to just agree with your opinions so you can feel better about witnessing Currys amazing season, but arguments can be made against him

That's not to say Curry isnt up there. But I suspect his efficiency wouldn't hold up, which wouldn't not make it incredible still

[Clifton]

He completely warps the floor when he's out there. Who else in NBA history has regularly gotten doubled 30 feet from the basket?
This is a good point.

He is in the same category as Shaq in this regard.

Shaq did this in the paint, which opened things up for shooters... but Curry does this at the 3pt line, which opens things up for cutters. Wide open layups and dunks all game long, for everyone from Barbosa to Bogut.

[jongib369]

Rught now Curry is hav8ng the most efficient season ever from the perimeter and avg 30. If he keeps this pace. This will be goat offens6regular season.
Shooting wise. Arguably not overall on the offensive end, for things like offensive rebounding like I've said put into consideration. I also doubt Curry could score at the same volume with as good of a percentage as Wilt. As Ive said to other posters in this thread.

This is an INCREDIBLE season though. Watching him is beautiful, he starts on my all time team with ho he'd distort the D.

He's taking advantage of the 3 like I always hoped it would be, got a lot of respect for the man

[CavaliersFTW]

This season is the best spark plug season we've ever seen from a player.

Steph out there on limited minutes scoring effortlessly.

He's still on limited minutes though, and ultimately there's been several players that have had seasons where they were ultimately more prolific in assisting/scoring or both on offense. You can't be given credit for minutes you never play. You can be given credit for being potent in the minutes you do play though, and I'm not taking anything away from that. Curry's been insane all season, easiest looking offense per 31 minutes or w/e he's been playing that I've seen.

[jongib369]

This is a good point.

He is in the same category as Shaq in this regard.

Shaq did this in the paint, which opened things up for shooters... but Curry does this at the 3pt line, which opens things up for cutters. Wide open layups and dunks all game long, for everyone from Barbosa to Bogut.
Imagine them on the same team with Mike...You literally couldn't do shit to stop that Threeway

[Wade's Rings]

It's also assuming he maintains that efficiency, which he likely couldn't. And no one seems to be mentioning there's offensive rebounding...That's pretty HUGE on the offensive end if you ask me.

How does Curry stack up against other point guards oh his era, or in the past in terms of offensive rebounds per game? Not that if he's significantly ahead (which he int) that it would negate the overall impact a GOAT scoring g big would have with it aswell

True, I didn't think of that. I still think his efficiency would still be incredible.

[Marchesk]

Tiny Archibald had a 34 ppg / 11.4 apg season shooting 49%.

If you're going to claim that Curry definitively has the best offensive season ever (so far through 42 games), then you have to take every great offensive season into account. Not just Kobe and Jordan.

[Marchesk]

As for Wilt, when he shot less, his percentage went up. The reason his 50.4 ppg season was only 50.3% was because he was shooting almost 40 times a game.

Regardless of Wilt's high shot volume and 48 minutes a game that season, he still put up over 1 pt per minute. That's higher than Curry's is this season.

You can also guarantee that playing 48 minutes every game means there are times when Wilt wasn't going all-out. Curry gets to rest a lot, so he can play with more concentrated effort.

[jongib369]

Tiny Archibald had a 34 ppg / 11.4 apg season shooting 49%.

If you're going to claim that Curry definitively has the best offensive season ever (so far through 42 games), then you have to take every great offensive season into account. Not just Kobe and Jordan.


(Info will be updated as new information comes. Feel free to correct, or contribute with different players.)

PRF= Points+points from assists.

Any names with an * next to it is adjusted for assists that led to a 3 per game. Any stats from this season doesn't include the very last game the played(Missing stats from Currys game against Spurs)

In order from what I've gathered so far

Tiny 73- 56.8

Wilt 62- 55.2

Oscar 62- 53.6

Oscar 64- 53.4

Wilt 63- 51.6

*LeBron 10- 49.6

Jordan in 89- 48.5

Magic 87- 48.3

Magic 89- 48.1

*Paul 09- 47.67

*Paul 08-47.63

Baylor in 62- 47.5

*Wade 09- 47.18

Wilt 64- 46.9

Jordan 87- 46.3

Stockton 90- 46.2

*Kobe 06- 45.83

*Curry 16- 45.6

*Nash 07-45.41

West 72- 45.2

*Durant 14- 44.39

Kareem 72- 44

Bird 87- 43.3

*Wall 16- 42.35

Wilt in 68- 41.5

*Curry 14- 41

*LeBron 16- 40.29

*Jordan 97- 39.24

*Shaq 00- 38.11

*Stockton 97-36.42

Incase you didn't see, Curry is 18th on the seasons I've added so far, but he's likely not even top 20 in this stat. I've yet to add more seasons of Magic, Robertson, and possibly a few others who are higher. But again, this has to be put into perspective with everything else too... Like Currys percentages, minutes, how he can maintain that efficiency with more minutes and volume, offensive rebounding etc etc..

People acting like "this is case closed BREHS, Curry deh bess" are frustrating lol

[navy]

When we say GOAT offensive season we are talking about impact. No disrespect to Wilt, but in his 50ppg season did his team have the best offensive team ever? It's not the individual stats, it's the way he has broken the league. The guy is just too good at 3 pointers.

[Marchesk]

When we say GOAT offensive season we are talking about impact. No disrespect to Wilt, but in his 50ppg season did his team have the best offensive team ever? It's not the individual stats, it's the way he has broken the league. The guy is just too good at 3 pointers.

There is that, but if we're talking impact, we have to discuss what Magic's impact was on those Laker teams (87 Lakers particularly), Wilt's 67 & 68 impact on the 76ers, Kareem's impact on the 71 & 72 Bucks, and so on.

I get that Curry is having a possibly historic impact, so he's in the conversation now. But there have been great offensive seasons before where defenses didn't have an answer. That's why the Pistons came up with the Jordan rules. Or how Wilt rewrote the record books in the 60s. Or Magic led the greatest fast break teams of all time.

[Marchesk]

Jerry West had a 31.2/7.5 season on 49.7 FG%.

West had a long range shot, but there was no 3 pointer for him to take advantage of. He was like Curry in being able to play the PG position while scoring a lot with excellent shooting.

[plowking]

Check out the thread jongib made. Several players have had more offensive impact than Curry with the basic formula of points + assists.

Per36 means jack to me. While it's got some merit and is impressive to be an efficient spark plug, you produce and help your team only in the minutes you play, not the minutes you don't.

Points + assists is all good and well, but Curry is leading one of the best teams ever, and is blowing out teams, and able to sit out 4th quarters. It isn't anything about being an efficient spark plug. It is about being so good in the time you play, that the games usually aren't close by the time the 3rd quarter comes around.

Curry has played 36, 37 and 38 mpg in seasons... He obviously can play, so it isn't just about being a spark plug. :oldlol:
We aren't talking about Vinnie Johnson ffs... lol. Dude is the best player on his team and leading the league in scoring by a long shot. :oldlol:



Shooting wise. Arguably not overall on the offensive end, for things like offensive rebounding like I've said put into consideration. I also doubt Curry could score at the same volume with as good of a percentage as Wilt. As Ive said to other posters in this thread.

This is an INCREDIBLE season though. Watching him is beautiful, he starts on my all time team with ho he'd distort the D.

He's taking advantage of the 3 like I always hoped it would be, got a lot of respect for the man

You're assuming that his efficiency drops off... When in fact the 4th quarters he has played have been his most efficient. He gets better as the game goes. These are all facts. His PER and TS% are something like 45 and 80% in the 4th quarter.
Not to mention, he is taking more shots, more 3 pointers, and his efficiency has gone up in both. He is literally getting more efficient as he shoots more. Will this be the case if he jacks up another 7 or 8 shots? Probably not. You round off at some point. But to say he wouldn't be doing it at a better percentage than Wilt? He would. Wilt was shooting in the 54-55% TS% range his whole career when scoring at a similar rate to Curry (or even less actually). Curry is shooting at 69% TS this season. He'd have to shoot horrifically for it to drop even down to 60% from this amount of shots he takes now. Then take into account that he'd always be a 90% free throw shooter, and it is hard to imagine.

Take this season for what it is. One of, if not the best offensive seasons ever.

[plowking]

Incase you didn't see, Curry is 18th on the seasons I've added so far, but he's likely not even top 20 in this stat. I've yet to add more seasons of Magic, Robertson, and possibly a few others who are higher. But again, this has to be put into perspective with everything else too... Like Currys percentages, minutes, how he can maintain that efficiency with more minutes and volume, offensive rebounding etc etc..

People acting like "this is case closed BREHS, Curry deh bess" are frustrating lol

I'd be far more interested in seeing a list like this based on per36 minute numbers. It has to be taken into context given that Curry is only sitting for the pure fact that he is destroying teams so early, and we've never really seen anything like this. We know he can play the minutes, since he has earlier in his career.

[jongib369]

Points + assists is all good and well, but Curry is leading one of the best teams ever, and is blowing out teams, and able to sit out 4th quarters. It isn't anything about being an efficient spark plug. It is about being so good in the time you play, that the games usually aren't close by the time the 3rd quarter comes around.

Curry has played 36, 37 and 38 mpg in seasons... He obviously can play, so it isn't just about being a spark plug. :oldlol:
We aren't talking about Vinnie Johnson ffs... lol. Dude is the best player on his team and leading the league in scoring by a long shot. :oldlol:




You're assuming that his efficiency drops off... When in fact the 4th quarters he has played have been his most efficient. He gets better as the game goes. These are all facts. His PER and TS% are something like 45 and 80% in the 4th quarter.
Not to mention, he is taking more shots, more 3 pointers, and his efficiency has gone up in both. He is literally getting more efficient as he shoots more. Will this be the case if he jacks up another 7 or 8 shots? Probably not. You round off at some point. But to say he wouldn't be doing it at a better percentage than Wilt? He would. Wilt was shooting in the 54-55% TS% range his whole career when scoring at a similar rate to Curry (or even less actually). Curry is shooting at 69% TS this season. He'd have to shoot horrifically for it to drop even down to 60% from this amount of shots he takes now. Then take into account that he'd always be a 90% free throw shooter, and it is hard to imagine.

Take this season for what it is. One of, if not the best offensive seasons ever.
I have to get off for about an hour, so I don't have time to respond or read everytjing..But after a skim it seems like you're not accounting his 4th quarter success as due to the fact he's on limited minutes. Not that it's definitely the case, but It should be put into consideration...Instead of just endless exponential growth

Side note, I want to make a thread to see peoples thoughts about Wilt possibly being overworked, as in a coach thibs effect. Obviously it was smaller sample sizes, team game etc etc etc...But it might have something to do with the "drop". Which isn't as significant at first glance, ontop of still BEAST stats.

I'll get back to you though, unless someone else does better than I could

[juju151111]

I'd be far more interested in seeing a list like this based on per36 minute numbers. It has to be taken into context given that Curry is only sitting for the pure fact that he is destroying teams so early, and we've never really seen anything like this. We know he can play the minutes, since he has earlier in his career.
Exactly and the reason people are saying goat offensive regular season is because the efficiency he putting up for a 30 ppg season. His ts% is like 70. Mj most efficient season while scoring that much was 60 ts%. What he doing is absurd.

[references]

got to love all the old people so afraid of letting their nostalgia go

[CavaliersFTW]

Exactly and the reason people are saying goat offensive regular season is because the efficiency he putting up for a 30 ppg season. His ts% is like 70. Mj most efficient season while scoring that much was 60 ts%. What he doing is absurd.
It is

But giving credit for minutes he's not playing with stats like "per36" isn't truthful.

Someone say with a straight face they wouldn't be just as amazed to see a Tiny Archibald in this league averaging 34 points on 49% from the field (that was with no 3's so maybe 35+ points today) WHILE ALSO dishing 11.4 assists per game.

He did it on 46 minutes. You expect people to just be like "oh well, not as impressive cause 46 minutes". Hell no. If that was happening today people would be going nuts every game he played just like they are Curry.

It's a special sight to see a spark plug like Curry. So many points in so little minutes. However, it was also monumental what some other players did in their own way. We can enjoy what Curry is doing without getting tunnel vision, we don't need to compare everyone to him based on "per36" - that only ever would favor Curry.

[Jameerthefear]

It is

But giving credit for minutes he's not playing with stats like "per36" isn't truthful.

Someone say with a straight face they wouldn't be just as amazed to see a Tiny Archibald in this league averaging 34 points on 49% from the field (that was with no 3's so maybe 35+ points today) WHILE ALSO dishing 11.4 assists per game.

He did it on 46 minutes. You expect people to just be like "oh well, not as impressive cause 46 minutes". Hell no. If that was happening today people would be going nuts every game he played just like they are Curry.

It's a special sight to see a spark plug like Curry. So many points in so little minutes. However, it was also monumental what some other players did in their own way. We can enjoy what Curry is doing without getting tunnel vision, we don't need to compare everyone to him based on "per36" - that only ever would favor Curry.
it would be, but he would never do it. guards back then were weak as ****

[plowking]

It is

But giving credit for minutes he's not playing with stats like "per36" isn't truthful.

Someone say with a straight face they wouldn't be just as amazed to see a Tiny Archibald in this league averaging 34 points on 49% from the field (that was with no 3's so maybe 35+ points today) WHILE ALSO dishing 11.4 assists per game.

He did it on 46 minutes. You expect people to just be like "oh well, not impressive cause 46 minutes". Hell no. If that was happening today people would be going nuts every game he played just like they are Curry.

It's a special sight to see a spark plug like Curry. So many points in so little minutes. However, it was also monumental what some other players did in their own way. We can enjoy what Curry is doing without getting tunnel vision, we don't need to compare everyone to him based on "per36" - that only ever would favor Curry.

Lol... So instead you want to penalise him. Spark plug lol. Keep trying to make it stick. :oldlol:

Yes, per36 is a viable stat in this case. The only reason he isn't playing it is because he is so good that he gets to rest.

No one has been this good over their first 33 minutes on court. That is the reason his minutes are low. Because he has been so much better than everyone else he blows other teams out.

[jongib369]

Lol... So instead you want to penalise him. Spark plug lol. Keep trying to make it stick. :oldlol:

Yes, per36 is a viable stat in this case. The only reason he isn't playing it is because he is so good that he gets to rest.

No one has been this good over their first 33 minutes on court. That is the reason his minutes are low. Because he has been so much better than everyone else he blows other teams out.
The offense is also catered around him to put up this output in those amount of minutes. The other guys, not so much. What cavs is saying isn't bringing him down IMO.. he's not using spark plug in a Nate Robinson like sense (obviously lol)

I have a hard time believing he could maintain this efficiency averaging 40 minutes per game with more shots, not thatbhe couldn't play that much..It would effect this rating a bit...But he doesn't have to, so it's hard ranking it

He's GOAT scorer in some ways, but overall IDT hes there yet. Per 36 is raising him up just a tad, while lowering their "advantage" too much. Is there a middle ground we can figure out?

[Sarcastic]

When we say GOAT offensive season we are talking about impact. No disrespect to Wilt, but in his 50ppg season did his team have the best offensive team ever? It's not the individual stats, it's the way he has broken the league. The guy is just too good at 3 pointers.

Nothing but pure hyperbole. Did they cancel the season and award the Warriors the ring already? I didn't get the memo.

If he has broken the league, you should bet your life savings on the Warriors, since they can't lose.

[juju151111]

The offense is also catered around him to put up this output in those amount of minutes. The other guys, not so much. What cavs is saying isn't bringing him down IMO.. he's not using spark plug in a Nate Robinson like sense (obviously lol)

I have a hard time believing he could maintain this efficiency averaging 40 minutes per game with more shots, not thatbhe couldn't play that much..It would effect this rating a bit...But he doesn't have to, so it's hard ranking it

He's GOAT scorer in some ways, but overall IDT hes there yet. Per 36 is raising him up just a tad, while lowering their "advantage" too much. Is there a middle ground we can figure out?
Maybe 40 mins his efficiency would drop but 36 mins i doubt it drops much.

[jongib369]

Maybe 40 mins his efficiency would drop but 36 mins i doubt it drops much.
Over the course of an entire nba season it might, but not much. Finding out their per 40 might be a good middleground...But it's giving him stats/an efficiency he didn't actually do, while lowering what the other two did.

This shit isn't easy, so I don't mean to knock Curry. I'm known as a Wilt stan but I'd like to think of myself as sensible/reasonable haha

[SyRyanYang]

Era is the most important argument when knuckleheads start speaking about Greatest ever.

Rules are different.

Why not just compare peers?

So Jordan is the GOAT? He's just the best in his era and dominated his peers?

[plowking]

Over the course of an entire nba season it might, but not much. Finding out their per 40 might be a good middleground...But it's giving him stats/an efficiency he didn't actually do, while lowering what the other two did.

This shit isn't easy, so I don't mean to knock Curry. I'm known as a Wilt stan but I'd like to think of myself as sensible/reasonable haha

He is shooting 69% in 33 minutes. Say he plays 40, shall we knock off a percentage point for every minute he plays up to 40? It is still ridiculously efficient either way.

[SyRyanYang]

Wilt dicksuckers out in full force.
Life must be dull in the retirement village.

[StrongLurk]

how do you guard this? it just baffles me!

That is beyond absurd. Never seen anyone break the NBA like this, considering that he makes 3 points better than most players make 2 point.

[chazzy]

Lol'd at "doesn't have enough stamina"

[jongib369]

He is shooting 69% in 33 minutes. Say he plays 40, shall we knock off a percentage point for every minute he plays up to 40? It is still ridiculously efficient either way.

Definitely, not denying that. But if you take away what he's doing at the charity stripe the ridiculous dominance percentage wise becomes a LITTLE more human(With more minutes/volume). I would argue that effects the rating a little bit, but I'd have to dive deeper into that

True shooting percentage IMO is fair in comparison to Small Forwards and below...But for 4's, and 5's not so much. For instance, if someone is calling this the "greatest offensive season" like the OP....I would bring this up

Curry is shooting a TS% of .685 :bowdown:

We get rid of the true shooting% and find out the average between his 2's, and 3's is .519, again :bowdown:

Wilts TS% in 67 was .637...Take away the free throws you get .683

But even with a free throw % of .913 for Curry, and .441 for Wilt...Curry is only giving you 5.4 Free throws per game, versus Wilts 4.8...A .6(.9 Per36) difference is not much.

At MOST so far curry is giving you 6.3 free throw attempts per game, on 5.4 makes. Averaging in his career per36 3.8 Attempts at 3.5 makes :bowdown:

But Wilt, topped off at 17 attempts, 10.4 makes. Averaging in his career 11.4 attempts making 5.8. But, even unfairly penalizing his stamina his Per 36 is 8.9 attempts with 4.6 makes.

With my little PRF stat Curry is beating Wilt that season...But, with something like offensive rebounds in mind, how much does this close the gap for you if at all? Currys ORB is .8...While we don't know Wilts ORB, his TRB that season was 24.2. Even with adjusted stats that might make up the difference in points(correct me if I'm wrong)

I'm not trying to bring down Curry, I'm trying to represent the past and make a case that this isn't the landslide "Best offensive season ever" that some make it out to be.

[jongib369]

Lol'd at "doesn't have enough stamina"
No one is arguing he couldn't play those minutes, but we are arguing he can't put up the same percentages. I'd also argue he wouldn't be as efficient shooting at the same volume some of the great scorers have had. Would he still be efficient? yes. Would it still be an amazing season? yes. One of the best offensive seasons? Yes. THE best, as is, or if he was shooting more...???

As I've said though, no matter how you look at it, it's some of the best basketball we've got to witness. Do the rules today benefit him? Of course, but I'm not going to have sour grapes about it until people say "Curry>___ and it's not even close" like some have