So, did Kobe quit in Game 7 vs Phoenix in 2006?

[sportjames23]

Newsflash. We're talking about a loser and a guy who quit in a game 7 scoring 1 point in the second half while taking only 3 shots and getting his behind handed to him on a plate by Barbosa.

He's happy enough to lose:lol


Discuss.

[feyki]

Probably .

Nash was also better than him at that series .

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Probably .

Nash was also better than him at that series .
:dancin

[buddha]

it was a 15 point game at halftime despite Kobe scoring 23 points on 8-13 shooting. game was already over, there was nothing Kobe could have done to win the game except scoring 81 points. Kobe scoring wasn't working, Kobe said this
"If we were going to get back in this type of game we had to have everybody contributing," Bryant said. "In the first half I started to pick it up offensively just to keep us in the hunt. If we were going to get back into the game in the second half everybody has to get into a rhythm and that didn't happen."but personally I believe Kobe was acting out against the defensive effort his team was showing. Kobe was non verbally saying if you guys aren't going to show up on defense, i'm not going to show up on offense.. he knew the game was over, this was just his way of saying **** you to his shitty teammates.

has anyone ever played with shitty noobs in a game of call of duty and your team is getting reemed and you get so god damn mad at them for making stupid mistakes that you just say **** it and start tking them because you know there is 0 percent chance of winning? that's exactly what went on here.

[feyki]

it was a 15 point game at halftime despite Kobe scoring 23 points on 8-13 shooting. game was already over, there was nothing Kobe could have done to win the game except scoring 81 points.

2011 NBA Finals Game 2 ..

[SpaceJam]

2011 NBA Finals Game 2 ..

I think you're talking bout the wrong game son

[buddha]

2011 NBA Finals Game 2 ..

was that lebrons shitty game? what's your point?

[feyki]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rCT8ov5Lv_Y

[SpaceJam]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rCT8ov5Lv_Y

Ahh my bad, thought you meant it in reference to a half time deficit

[Norcaliblunt]

Kobe quit, choked hard, and got beat by a team playing Tim Thomas at center. Lol.

[Dr Hawk]

I know a guy who quit for an entire Finals

[ISHGoat]

I know a guy who quit for an entire Finals

:applause:

Actually two finals. 2004 and 2008.

[SpaceJam]

Not really in regards to OP, but god damn Kobe had some trash that year :oldlol:

Luke Walton
Smush Parker
Kwame Brown

As starters for that series :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Dr Hawk]

:applause:

Actually two finals. 2004 and 2008.

He wish two :oldlol:

2000!

15/4/4 .411 TS% :bowdown:

[LAZERUSS]

How about Game 5 of the '89 ECF's...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198905310DET.html

In a series tied 2-2...

[Dr Hawk]

How about Game 5 of the '89 ECF's...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198905310DET.html

In a series tied 2-2...

Almost 20-10 on great efficiency against a great defense. Not that bad

[LAZERUSS]

Almost 20-10 on great efficiency against a great defense. Not that bad

http://articles.latimes.com/1989-06-01/sports/sp-1414_1_michael-scores-detroit-s-isiah-thomas-shots

[Dr Hawk]

http://articles.latimes.com/1989-06-01/sports/sp-1414_1_michael-scores-detroit-s-isiah-thomas-shots


"Michael scores 46 points, and people say he's not sharing enough of the offense. Now he takes eight shots and you tell him he's the highest-priced decoy in the game.

"Is that fair?"

Jordan sure didn't think so.

He made a conscious effort, he said, to involve his teammates in the offense, what with the Pistons putting everybody but their trainer on him when he touched the ball.

"Why should I take the shots if they're double-teaming me, triple-teaming me, sometimes even putting four guys on me?" Jordan asked. "Didn't we still get good shots?"

Yes, Michael.

"Well, did we hit 'em?"

No, Michael.

"That's the whole story," Jordan said. "We gotta hit 'em."


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[LAZERUSS]

aa

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4319820&postcount=1


Game 5, 1989 ECF: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgiPrZ1eDTU (entire game is on youtube)


At this point, this was the biggest game of Jordan's career, he's in his prime and he pulls the same sh*t Lebron did. You know how many shots he took in the game? EIGHT. And half of them were in the first quarter. He took just one shot in the fourth quarter and airballed it. It wasn't like the game was out of hand, it was a nip and tuck till the end. Just like the Cavs last night, the Bulls were waiting for MJ to take over, or at least show he cared...but it never came.

it's never about just the number of shots...it's the demeanor. Bulls were up 2-1 in this series and stole home court, Jordan carried them in the game 3 win...didn't have a good game 4 and they lost, teammates didn't play well which was often the case. He comes out next game and plays the same passive way LBJ/KB have been accused of. Floats passes, has weird turnovers where his head doesn't seem in the game, content to just dump off the ball to his teammates and watch them 25 feet away from the hoop, content to have Brad Sellers take late clock jumpers rather than look or demand for the ball. There was defensive pressure sure, it's the bad boy Pistons after all, just like there was defensive pressure any time Lebron plays the Celtics. Great defense or not, you can't watch the game and not come out thinking the same thing you thought last night...wtf was MJ doing?


Even the announcers were puzzled and wondering what the hell was going on...

“he hasn’t really gotten that aggressive look at the offensive end so far”

”it’s almost like Jordan is on cruise control”

”at this point, Jordan is not even looking at the basket. More or less content to be a decoy”

”he’s been as quiet as a mouse, he just hasn’t been looking at the hoop and I think he has to”


Now put yourself back in 1989. You just watched MJ go through the motions for an entire game in the biggest game of his career, and it's more than likely because he's pissed at his team for not helping him in the previous game. Would you not be questioning his "killer instinct", "will to win" etc etc? Fast forward 5 years, when Jordan completes the three peat...are you still saying the same thing?

[Showtime2001]

Probably .

Nash was also better than him at that series .
http://i.imgur.com/4bUV7Ls.gif

[aj1987]

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If it's Wilt, watch him scramble to make up excuses. Blaming it on his teammates, coaches, his "role", etc..

[LAZERUSS]

If it's Wilt, watch him scramble to make up excuses. Blaming it on his teammates, coaches, his "role", etc..

If it's Wilt, he is playing every minute of every game, and at times with multiple injuries, and still pulling down 20+ rebounds in damn near every game...

[aj1987]

If it's Wilt, he is playing every minute of every game, and at times with multiple injuries, and still pulling down 20+ rebounds in damn near every game...
Jordan played 46 minutes game game. 7 more than the next Bulls player. 5 minutes more than any player in the game. Dude averaged 18/9/5/1 on 70% TS.

I'm not trying to make excuses for MJ, but you literally make the same ones of Wilt.

[LAZERUSS]

Jordan played 46 minutes game game. 7 more than the next Bulls player. 5 minutes more than any player in the game. Dude averaged 18/9/5/1 on 70% TS.

I'm not trying to make excuses for MJ, but you literally make the same ones of Wilt.

Wilt's biggest black eyes have been because he has played hurt, instead of not playing all, and usually every minute of every game, like the '68 EDF's, and when he has two poor games, he gets the blame. He should have just pulled a Kareem or Reed, and just sat out.

Or he has come back WAY ahead of schedule from a major operation, and just put up a measley 23-24 .625 seven game series...in a loss.

[Mr Feeny]

Guys stay on topic. We are not talking about Chamberlain's "wilting" under pressure:lol
We are talking about another choker. A man who gets you 1 point in the second half of a game 7!
That's right, Kobrick :lebronamazed:

[aj1987]

Wilt's biggest black eyes have been because he has played hurt, instead of not playing all, and usually every minute of every game, like the '68 EDF's, and when he has two poor games, he gets the blame. He should have just pulled a Kareem or Reed, and just sat out.

Or he has come back WAY ahead of schedule from a major operation, and just put up a measley 23-24 .625 seven game series...in a loss.
Thank for proving my point.

[feyki]

Ahh my bad, thought you meant it in reference to a half time deficit


No problem :cheers: .

[sportjames23]

How about Game 5 of the '89 ECF's...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198905310DET.html

In a series tied 2-2...


Hmm...how about Game 7 of the 1969 Finals? With home court. I say again--HOME COURT.

SOMEONE cried injury and never came back on the court and let a tired, old team win the championship in their building.

Shit, they even had the balloons and shit ready in anticipation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969_NBA_Finals#Game_7

[kennethgriffin]

yes kobe quit ( atleast in terms of trying to do it all himself )

the lakers were getting roasted

they had no chance in hell that game

he decided to not even bother chucking because if he did then he would have been crucified by the media even more for shooting his team out of the game

instead we look back at the tim thomas 3 as the back breaker and turning point in the series



this is not nearly the same as a lebron james quit


since lebron quits when his team SHOULD win and is EXPECTED to win and has the TALENT to win

just out of pure sadness that he cant win with all the spotlight on him


thats cancerous... 2011 is historically bad for lebron... 2006 was just expected. the suns were better

[24-Inch_Chrome]

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/im_retarded_quantum_leap.gif
Nash elevated his game for that series, Kobe did the opposite. :confusedshrug:

[Showtime2001]

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/im_retarded_quantum_leap.gif
Kobe carried shit and put up better numbers. :confusedshrug:

Nash did nothing to elevate his game he simply had the better team.

[HOoopCityJones]

This series is over in game 6 if Kwame the bum Brown just contests a Tim Thomas 3....

Kobe dropped 50 pts in that game, did everything he could and all he needed was one guy to show up like Smush did the game before on that amazing steal. Kwame couldn't come through and the rest is history.


LOL at Nash being better in that series, he had the better Team. Didn't even deserve MVP over Kobe.

[LAZERUSS]

Hmm...how about Game 7 of the 1969 Finals? With home court. I say again--HOME COURT.

SOMEONE cried injury and never came back on the court and let a tired, old team win the championship in their building.

Shit, they even had the balloons and shit ready in anticipation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969_NBA_Finals#Game_7

Three things...

1. He asked to go back in, and was denied, by his incompetent coach, who preferred to lose the game, than to let a Wilt that he absolutely hated, from coming back in.

2. Even the idiotic coach said that Wilt was injured.

3. And finally, Chamberlain shredded that same knee early the very next season.


BTW, just before Wilt sustained that injury, the Lakers were mounting a furious comeback, and has knocked 10 points off of a 17 point deficit in a little over four minutes. So, if Wilt were somehow "faking" an injury, why would he do it then, and with over 5 minutes left in the game?

Oh, and all he did in that game was put up 18 points, on 7-8 FG/FGA, with 27 rebounds.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Kobe carried shit and put up better numbers. :confusedshrug:
Kobe

RS: 35.6 PPG
PO: 27.9 PPG

-7.7

Nash

RS: 18.8 PPG
PO (for that series, anyway, because Nash actually made it past the first round): 22.1 PPG

+3.3

Interestingly enough, the Lakers were outscored by 6.7 PPG in that series. I wonder who could have made up the difference, especially considering how poor Phoenix's defense was? :confusedshrug:

Keep making excuses though. :dancin

[Showtime2001]

Kobe

RS: 35.6 PPG
PO: 27.9 PPG

-7.7

Nash

RS: 18.8 PPG
PO (for that series, anyway, because Nash actually made it past the first round): 22.1 PPG

+3.3

Interestingly enough, the Lakers were outscored by 6.7 PPG in that series. I wonder who could have made up the difference, especially considering how poor Phoenix's defense was? :confusedshrug:

Keep making excuses though. :dancin
http://www.nba.com/media/suns/06playoffs_r1g6_tim_three.jpg
"Excuses doe" :lol

Kobe > Nash in that series.

[Lebron23]

Yes

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Keep deflecting. Keep making excuses. Stay :mad: :rant :cry:

Kobe coughed up a 3-1 series lead and quit on his team in the most important game of the series.

Nash elevated his game and led his team back from the brink, a brink so extreme that only 7 teams in NBA history had managed it before that point.

Nash holding the literal and figurative W.

:hammertime:

[Showtime2001]

Keep deflecting. Keep making excuses. Stay :mad: :rant :cry:

Kobe coughed up a 3-1 series lead and quit on his team in the most important game of the series.

Nash elevated his game and led his team back from the brink, a brink so extreme that only 7 teams in NBA history had managed it before that point.

Nash holding the literal and figurative W.

:hammertime:
Meltdown.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

:cry:
Sorry, I can't understand you through the tears. :confusedshrug:

[aj1987]

Sorry, I can't understand you through the tears. :confusedshrug:
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Showtime2001]

http://10minutesofbrilliance.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/cruz_roja_melting-man1.jpg
:lol

[feyki]

Nash - 22 points , 10 assists , 118 Ortg

Kobe - 28 points , 5 assists , 108 Ortg


Kobe played better on defensive side . Actually everybody can play better defence than Nash . And Kobe was also bad on defence at that series .

Total impact goes to Nash .

[24-Inch_Chrome]

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-22522-Brittany-Big-Brother-cringe-gi-RjIc.gif

[RRR3]

Sorry, I can't understand you through the tears. :confusedshrug:
:roll:

[choppermagic]

:applause:

Actually two finals. 2004 and 2008.

Complete fail. People complain that Kobe tried to force too much in those Finals. It's not quitting if you're trying to do too much. Did you even watch basketball back then?

[HOoopCityJones]

http://www.nba.com/media/suns/06playoffs_r1g6_tim_three.jpg
"Excuses doe" :lol

Kobe > Nash in that series.

Shit is pitiful. 7 seconds on the clock and you're giving a shooter that much space in a close game? :facepalm

All you had to do is contest. Ohh well.

[Showtime2001]

Shit is pitiful. 7 seconds on the clock and you're giving a shooter that much space in a close game? :facepalm

All you had to do is contest. Ohh well.
"Kobe's fault doe."

"Deflecting doe."

:lol

[ArbitraryWater]

This series is over in game 6 if Kwame the bum Brown just contests a Tim Thomas 3....

Kobe dropped 50 pts in that game, did everything he could and all he needed was one guy to show up like Smush did the game before on that amazing steal. Kwame couldn't come through and the rest is history.


LOL at Nash being better in that series, he had the better Team. Didn't even deserve MVP over Kobe.

Um, Kobe dropped 38 at that point, not 50, and had the ball in his hands for the series winning shot.... stop rewriting history :facepalm

[HOoopCityJones]

Um, Kobe dropped 38 at that point, not 50, and had the ball in his hands for the series winning shot.... stop rewriting history :facepalm

Back to the basement for you kiddo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wm3ATSpAEc

http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1kbwy5QXA1rpto9ao1_500.gif

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Kobe definitely quit in that second half. Guy took Phil's words literally about "involving more teammates", and subsequently refused to shoot.

The biggest Kobe fans in the world can't spin this one. :lol

[HOoopCityJones]

Just to put this to bed for good....

That first half box score of Game 7...

Cook 6 pts 3/5
Odom 4pts 2/8
Brown 6pts 1/6
Parker 4pts 2/6
Walton 2pts 1/4 All combined = 22pts 9/29

Kobe 23pts 8/13 but it's all his fault they lost lol

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Um, Kobe dropped 38 at that point, not 50, and had the ball in his hands for the series winning shot.... stop rewriting history :facepalm

Uh oh... Somebody never watched the series :oldlol:

[Showtime2001]

Just to put this to bed for good....

That first half box score of Game 7...

Cook 6 pts 3/5
Odom 4pts 2/8
Brown 6pts 1/6
Parker 4pts 2/6
Walton 2pts 1/4 All combined = 22pts 9/29

Kobe 23pts 8/13 but it's all his fault they lost lol
"Deflect deflect deflect!"

"Nash was better!"

"It's all Kobe's fault!"

[HOoopCityJones]

Uh oh... Somebody never watched the series :oldlol:

Dude's been a fuccing fraud.

Half the people in this thread don't realize that series was over in gm 6 if Kwame just secure one rebound. 7 seconds on the clock Lakers were up and all he had to do was get the rebound, he botches that then proceeds to leave Tim Thomas wide open at the three because why not. This ni99a Kobe dropped 50 pts, his only fifty point game in his post season career.

Not like he asked this dude Kwame to drop 20 and 10. Grab one rebound, game over. Contest a shot, game over.

[Mr Feeny]

Kobe definitely quit in that second half. Guy took Phil's words literally about "involving more teammates", and subsequently refused to shoot.

The biggest Kobe fans in the world can't spin this one. :lol

:lebronamazed:
He pulled the same nonsense during Jackson's first run and Phil wrote about it in his book. This guy has a long history of quitting and costing his team wins.

[riseagainst]

Uh oh... Somebody never watched the series :oldlol:


:lol
:roll:

[Mr Feeny]

:lol
:roll:

He's right tbf

1 point when it really matters :lebronamazed:

[HOoopCityJones]

:lebronamazed:
He pulled the same nonsense during Jackson's first run and Phil wrote about it in his book. This guy has a long history of quitting and costing his team wins.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/Funny%20NBA%20Record/Lebron%20James/aka%20big%20choker/lebron-james-2011-nba-final-4q.jpg~original (http://s304.photobucket.com/user/nbacardDOTnet/media/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/Funny%20NBA%20Record/Lebron%20James/aka%20big%20choker/lebron-james-2011-nba-final-4q.jpg.html)

To quit for 5 games straight tho....Unprecedented. :applause:

[Showtime2001]

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/Funny%20NBA%20Record/Lebron%20James/aka%20big%20choker/lebron-james-2011-nba-final-4q.jpg~original (http://s304.photobucket.com/user/nbacardDOTnet/media/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/Funny%20NBA%20Record/Lebron%20James/aka%20big%20choker/lebron-james-2011-nba-final-4q.jpg.html)

To quit for 5 games straight tho....Unprecedented. :applause:
https://media3.giphy.com/media/NVbfxExyozams/200_s.gif

[RRR3]

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/Funny%20NBA%20Record/Lebron%20James/aka%20big%20choker/lebron-james-2011-nba-final-4q.jpg~original (http://s304.photobucket.com/user/nbacardDOTnet/media/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/Funny%20NBA%20Record/Lebron%20James/aka%20big%20choker/lebron-james-2011-nba-final-4q.jpg.html)

To quit for 5 games straight tho....Unprecedented. :applause:
5 straight? LeBron was great in game 1.

[HOoopCityJones]

5 straight? LeBron was great in game 1.

Dude physically quit in the 4th quarter, isn't that under the same circumstances we're criticizing Kobe for? :confusedshrug:

Only difference is he did it for 5 games straight in the closing quarter of each game.

[DMV2]

When Kobe does quit, he does it out of spite, trying to prove his critics wrong. No denying that.

LeBron's quitting is more out of lack of mental strength and lack of street hunger.

[HOoopCityJones]

When Kobe does quit, he does it out of spite. No denying that.

LeBron's quitting is more out of lack of mental strength and lack of street hunger.

Wtf :oldlol:

[DMV2]

Wtf :oldlol:
Urban dictionary, homie. :lol

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=street+hunger


Yo, LeBron James lacks Kobe Bryant's street hunger fo real son.

[HOoopCityJones]

Urban dictionary, homie. :lol

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=street+hunger

I say wtf because of the irony. Lebron actually grew up in poverty while Kobe grew up privileged.

[feyki]

Kobe on 100 poss at season ;

45.6 pts , 6.8 reb , 5.8 Ast , 2.4 stl , 0.5 blk , 4 to , 114 ortg , 105 drtg , %56 TS

Against Suns ;

32.5 pts , 7.3 reb , 6 ast , 1.3 stl , 0.5 blk , 5.5 to , 108 ortg , 115 drtg , %58 TS

That is definitely choke

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Kobe definitely quit in that second half. Guy took Phil's words literally about "involving more teammates", and subsequently refused to shoot.

The biggest Kobe fans in the world can't spin this one. :lol
That won't stop them from trying.

[ArbitraryWater]

Uh oh... Somebody never watched the series :oldlol:

stop making me go the extra round...


This series is over in game 6 if Kwame the bum Brown just contests a Tim Thomas 3....

Kobe dropped 50 pts in that game, did everything he could and all he needed was one guy to show up like Smush did the game before on that amazing steal. Kwame couldn't come through and the rest is history.


LOL at Nash being better in that series, he had the better Team. Didn't even deserve MVP over Kobe.

the rest was history? The rest was Kobe scoring 12 in OT :oldlol: Feels like some of y'all didnt even watch the series. Its on YouTube ffs.

You dont validate saying Kobe did everything he could that game, if at the point you see it going wrong (Brown's closeout), he had 38 not 50...

for being a native you people have some whack reading comprehension.

And then, ball in his hands for the series, Kobe throws up an airball '97 style :facepalm

[HOoopCityJones]

stop making me go the extra round...



the rest was history? The rest was Kobe scoring 12 in OT :oldlol: Feels like some of y'all didnt even watch the series. Its on YouTube ffs.

You dont validate saying Kobe did everything he could that game, if at the point you see it going wrong (Brown's closeout), he had 38 not 50...

for being a native you people have some whack reading comprehension.

And then, ball in his hands for the series, Kobe throws up an airball '97 style :facepalm


Where did I say Kobe had 50 at the time of the close out by Brown? :biggums: I'll wait.

I said he dropped 50 in that game.

Yo bitch ass always tryna sounds smart only to end up looking the fool. Never fails.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

stop making me go the extra round...



the rest was history? The rest was Kobe scoring 12 in OT :oldlol: Feels like some of y'all didnt even watch the series. Its on YouTube ffs.

You dont validate saying Kobe did everything he could that game, if at the point you see it going wrong (Brown's closeout), he had 38 not 50...

for being a native you people have some whack reading comprehension.

And then, ball in his hands for the series, Kobe throws up an airball '97 style :facepalm

All dude said was Kobe had 50, and you're here talking about technicalities making a mountain out of a molehill. Quit reaching and just accept the fact Kobe dropped a double nickel.

:confusedshrug:

[ArbitraryWater]

Maybe if Kobe dropped 40 in regulation, he would have actually won, instead of getting 12 points in OT making it to 50, in a comfortable OT loss..

Not that he didnt have a great game, but he had the ball in his hands for the series, and couldnt deliver. Airball, in fact.

[ClipperRevival]

As a Laker fan, I watched that series closely. He absolutely chose not to shoot a lot in the 7th game to prove a point that without him, they are nothing. He was being criticized for shooting too much (which he was).

[Showtime2001]

As a Laker fan, I watched that series closely. He absolutely chose not to shoot a lot in the 7th game to prove a point that without him, they are nothing. He was being criticized for shooting too much (which he was).
This.

[imnew09]

Sorry, I can't understand you through the tears. :confusedshrug:


Cant hear you from that no ring tone from Nash

[24-Inch_Chrome]

:cry:
:confusedshrug:

Kobe quit on his team in the most important game of the series. Choked away a 3-1 series lead.

Nash elevated his game. Overcame a historically significant deficit. All without the help of Phoenix's leading scorer from the year before.

Pretty clear who the better player was in that series. I'll give you a hint: he was the 2005-2006 NBA MVP. :applause:

[Showtime2001]

:confusedshrug:

Kobe quit on his team in the most important game of the series. Choked away a 3-1 series lead.

Nash elevated his game. Overcame a historically significant deficit. All without the help of Phoenix's leading scorer from the year before.

Pretty clear who the better player was in that series. I'll give you a hint: he was the 2005-2006 NBA MVP. :applause:
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2817947/billbored.gif

[Hey Yo]

There's no doubt he quit.

Then the following season, after getting bounced in 5gms by the Suns again, Kobe demanded that changes be made.


The Lakers were eliminated in the first round for the second straight year and haven't won a playoff series since 2004, when Shaquille O'Neal left Los Angeles. Bryant let it be known after the game that changes must come.

"Do it and do it now," he said. "Personally for me, it's beyond frustration -- three years and still being at ground zero. This summer's a big summer. We have to see what direction we want to take as an organization and make those steps and make them now."

In which led to Kobe publicly demanding to be traded that off-season because he saw how hard it was carrying the load and needed help.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-kobe-bryant-wanted-trade-2007-chicago-bulls-20150223-story.html

[TheMarkMadsen]

There's no doubt he quit.

Then the following season, after getting bounced in 5gms by the Suns again, Kobe demanded that changes be made.



In which led to Kobe publicly demanding to be traded that off-season because he saw how hard it was carrying the load and needed help.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-kobe-bryant-wanted-trade-2007-chicago-bulls-20150223-story.html


its funny that you always bring this up and act like it is some horrible thing, yet when given the opportunity to leave LA, Kobe decided to stay.

When given the opportunity to leave CLE and Miami, Lebron bolted as soon as he possibly could.

So that must be a pretty big deal to you...?? Yet I never see you bring that up against Lebron..

Kobe told his bitch to straighten up or he's leaving. He was never going to leave, he just didn't want his loyalty to breed content in the front office.

Meanwhile Lebron promised he would never leave multiple times. Not only did he leave, but he embarrassed his formed team in doing it on national television in doing so. Then he did it again, this time on a team with multiple all stars who were promising to revamp the roster and bring in even more talent.. nope still left..

and how you can't see the difference between these two situations is beyond me..

[9erempiree]

lol @ leaving the Lakers.

The Lakers are his childhood team.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Then the following season, after getting bounced in 5gms by the Suns again, Kobe demanded that changes be made.

In which led to Kobe publicly demanding to be traded that off-season because he saw how hard it was carrying the load and needed help.
Stop polluting this thread with crap that has nothing to do with the series. Your agenda can **** off, make a different thread to talk about whatever may have transpired in the offseason.

Now, let's get back to the deflections/meltdowns from Kobe's ****boys in relation to him quitting in game 7 and being outplayed by Steve Nash through the series as a whole.

:hammertime:

[HOoopCityJones]

Stop polluting this thread with crap that has nothing to do with the series. Your agenda can **** off, make a different thread to talk about whatever may have transpired in the offseason.

Now, let's get back to the deflections/meltdowns from Kobe's ****boys in relation to him quitting in game 7 and being outplayed by Steve Nash through the series as a whole.

:hammertime:

The point is Steve Nash is ringless while Kobe got sweet revenge on that ass on the away to a repeat. :cheers:

[24-Inch_Chrome]

That has nothing to do with Kobe quitting on his team and being outplayed by Nash in 2006. :confusedshrug:

Keep deflecting though, it's all you can do.

:dancin

[warriorfan]

2.4 inch

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Sorry, I don't speak meltdown.

[Showtime2001]

That has nothing to do with Kobe quitting on his team and being outplayed by Nash in 2006. :confusedshrug:

Keep deflecting though, it's all you can do.

:dancin
Damn this guy is still melting down?

Here I got something for you...er one sec I just had it a second ago.........Ah found it.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/657617737645182976/Mhce2tPk.jpg

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Sorry, I STILL don't speak meltdown.

You can try coming at me with actual facts about the thread topic but I don't think that would be to your benefit.

[Hey Yo]

its funny that you always bring this up and act like it is some horrible thing, yet when given the opportunity to leave LA, Kobe decided to stay.
If Luol Deng wasn't part of the trade, Kobe goes to Chicago.


When given the opportunity to leave CLE and Miami, Lebron bolted as soon as he possibly could.

So that must be a pretty big deal to you...?? Yet I never see you bring that up against Lebron..
False.....LeBron signed a 3yr extension in the summer of 2006 with a 4th year option.


Kobe told his bitch to straighten up or he's leaving. He was never going to leave, he just didn't his loyalty to breed content in the front office.
So we should never take a Kobe quote as truth??


Meanwhile Lebron promised he would never leave multiple times. Not only did he leave, but he embarrassed his formed team in doing it on national television in doing so. Then he did it again, this time on a team with multiple all stars who were promising to revamp the roster and bring in even more talent.. nope still left..
You mean how Cleveland promised to revamp the roster all the time and it was mostly over the hill players on their last leg?

James should have stayed to watch Wade get paid to sit on the bench (when healthy enough to play) while he continues to carry the team in the reg. season?


and how you can't see the difference between these two situations is beyond me..
One guy didn't have to be the main option or subjected to losing his first 9-10yrs in the league.

While the other was giving the ball as an 18yr old, on a bad franchise and was told "get us a title"

[TheMarkMadsen]

Stop polluting this thread with crap that has nothing to do with the series. Your agenda can **** off, make a different thread to talk about whatever may have transpired in the offseason.

Now, let's get back to the deflections/meltdowns from Kobe's ****boys in relation to him quitting in game 7 and being outplayed by Steve Nash through the series as a whole.

:hammertime:

games 1-4 Nash was pretty average by his standards. 17ppg on 46% with 4 turnovers per game.

The only reason he survived to make 7 games was because his teammates were so much better than the Lakers cast outside of Kobe (guys like Boris Diaw putting up 25/10/9 in game 5, and all of the other players who were better than Walton, Smush and Kwame)

If it wasn't for his amazing supporting cast he loses in the same round Kobe does, or if his supporting cast is the same, he doesn't make the playoffs.

Kobe had more points, rebounds, steals, assist, blocks in that series but somehow Nash was better? :oldlol:

this is the same type of argument posters like you use to prop up guys like Wade and Lebron when being compared to Kobe. But now when Kobe loses with his shitty team against a stacked team that means Kobe was outplayed?

these double standards are always comical :lol

[HOoopCityJones]

Damn this guy is still melting down?

Here I got something for you...er one sec I just had it a second ago.........Ah found it.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/657617737645182976/Mhce2tPk.jpg

Dude's obsessed with talking trash about Kobe, mad that he's better than his favorite players Nash and Duncan. :oldlol:

Talk about insecure.

[Hey Yo]

Stop polluting this thread with crap that has nothing to do with the series. Your agenda can **** off, make a different thread to talk about whatever may have transpired in the offseason.

Now, let's get back to the deflections/meltdowns from Kobe's ****boys in relation to him quitting in game 7 and being outplayed by Steve Nash through the series as a whole.

:hammertime:
How about you blow me, dick nose.

If you can't see the connection of the 2 series and what it led Kobe to demand.....then that's your stupidity.

[Showtime2001]

Sorry, I STILL don't speak meltdown.

You can try coming at me with actual facts about the thread topic but I don't think that would be to your benefit.
28/6/5 on 49% fg > 22/4/10 on 50% fg

By all means continue deflecting and melting down.

[HOoopCityJones]

games 1-4 Nash was pretty average by his standards. 17ppg on 46% with 4 turnovers per game.

The only reason he survived to make 7 games was because his teammates were so much better than the Lakers cast outside of Kobe (guys like Boris Diaw putting up 25/10/9 in game 5, and all of the other players who were better than Walton, Smush and Kwame)

If it wasn't for his amazing supporting cast he loses in the same round Kobe does, or if his supporting cast is the same, he doesn't make the playoffs.

Kobe had more points, rebounds, steals, assist, blocks in that series but somehow Nash was better? :oldlol:

this is the same type of argument posters like you use to prop up guys like Wade and Lebron when being compared to Kobe. But now when Kobe loses with his shitty team against a stacked team that means Kobe was outplayed?

these double standards are always comical :lol


This guy doesn't watch Basketball. Don't even bother. :cheers:

[HOoopCityJones]

28/6/5 on 49% fg > 22/4/10 on 50% fg

By all means continue deflecting and melting down.

Don't forget the defensive impact Nash has NEVER had. :roll:

[Showtime2001]

Don't forget the defensive impact Nash has NEVER had. :roll:
Dude wanted facts and I gave him facts but nah "Nash played better all you do is deflect deflect blah blah ****ing blah."

He can dish it but can't take it lol.

[HOoopCityJones]

Dude wanted facts and I gave him facts but nah "Nash played better all you do is deflect deflect blah blah ****ing blah."

He can dish it but can't take it lol.

Now he'll change our facts to Gifs like a pu$$y. :rolleyes:

[Showtime2001]

Now he'll change our facts to Gifs like a pu$$y. :rolleyes:
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[24-Inch_Chrome]

games 1-4 Nash was pretty average by his standards. 17ppg on 46% with 4 turnovers per game.

The only reason he survived to make 7 games was because his teammates were so much better than the Lakers cast outside of Kobe (guys like Boris Diaw putting up 25/10/9 in game 5, and all of the other players who were better than Walton, Smush and Kwame)

If it wasn't for his amazing supporting cast he loses in the same round Kobe does, or if his supporting cast is the same, he doesn't make the playoffs.

Kobe had more points, rebounds, steals, assist, blocks in that series but somehow Nash was better? :oldlol:

this is the same type of argument posters like you use to prop up guys like Wade and Lebron when being compared to Kobe. But now when Kobe loses with his shitty team against a stacked team that means Kobe was outplayed?

these double standards are always comical :lol
:kobe:

Nash made his teammates better. Nash elevated his game in the series and led his team back from the brink during a historically significant 3-1 comeback. He did it all while missing the team's leading scorer from the year before. Those are facts.

Kobe saw his scoring average drop 7.7 points from his regular season PPG, more than the average scoring difference between the two teams in the series. He also quit on his team in the second half of game 7 to prove a point like a petulant child. Those are also facts.

You're wrong in saying that Kobe had more assists than Nash in the series. That's factually untrue. Expecting Nash to match Kobe's scoring output is also ridiculous, not only are you comparing a PG to an SG but you're also comparing fundamentally different mentalities. Nash was all about making his teammates better and making the smart play, Kobe was all about getting his.

You're welcome to continue to underrate his impact on those Phoenix teams, it's unfortunately common, but it's no coincidence that his arrival in Phoenix coincided with multiple teammates having career years in their time spent with him.

28/6/5 on 49% fg > 22/4/10 on 50% fg
By all means continue deflecting and melting down.
That has nothing to do with Kobe quitting on his team in game 7.

Remind me, which player elevated his game for the series and which player saw his scoring average drop by 7.7 points despite playing against a poor defense.

Don't forget the defensive impact Nash has NEVER had. :roll:
Yeah, Kobe was such a great defender that he allowed Barbosa to absolutely destroy him in the pivotal game 7.

:yaohappy:

[TheMarkMadsen]

If Luol Deng wasn't part of the trade, Kobe goes to Chicago.


False.....LeBron signed a 3yr extension in the summer of 2006 with a 4th year option.


So we should never take a Kobe quote as truth??


You mean how Cleveland promised to revamp the roster all the time and it was mostly over the hill players on their last leg?

James should have stayed to watch Wade get paid to sit on the bench (when healthy enough to play) while he continues to carry the team in the reg. season?


One guy didn't have to be the main option or subjected to losing his first 9-10yrs in the league.

While the other was giving the ball as an 18yr old, on a bad franchise and was told "get us a title"


you are seriously a ****ing dumbass. I'm going to give you this dose of facts/ether then I'm not responding to your pathetic ass again in this thread. Notice how you didn't touch on the fact that you're always giving Kobe shit for ALMOST leaving, but when Lebron actually leaves twice, it doesn't matter to you? Pathetic little **** boy



False.....LeBron signed a 3yr extension in the summer of 2006 with a 4th year option.


here you go again, setting yourself up to get embarrassed. Lebron signed that extension in the most shady way possible. I've schooled you on this before, but its the new year so I'll give you this lesson again, for free.


CLOSE YOUR EYES IT IS ABOUT TO GET UGLY


on July 9th, 2006


Cleveland's All-Star forward agreed Saturday to sign a contract extension of up to five years and worth as much as $80 million with the Cavaliers,

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2513416

on July 18th, 2006


LeBron James signed a three-year contract extension worth about $60 million Tuesday, cementing a deal announced last week.

hmm that is weird, what happened to those other two years that you signed up for Lebron, what changed in those 9 days between making a commitment and putting ink to paper?

well let back track a little to get the whole story

on July 4th, 2006, Wade agreed to a 5 year deal with the heat

http://espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2508809

At this time, Bosh and Wade had the same agent - Henry Thomas.

During this July of 2006, Bosh was ready to sign a 5 year deal in Toronto.. when Suddenly just two weeks later he signs for 3 years



Chris Bosh signed a three-year contract extension with the Raptors on Friday beginning in 2007-08, with a player option for a fourth year.

http://espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2519484

AND THEN WHAT DO YOU KNOW


Wade signed a long-awaited contract extension on Wednesday. The
deal is for three seasons, beginning in 2007-08, and has a player
option for a fourth year -- much like the one agreed to earlier
Wednesday by LeBron James of the Cleveland Cavaliers.

http://espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2516735


These three dudes (two of them who have the same agent) all went from verbally agreeing to 5 year contracts - to signing 3 years deals with a player option - ALL WITHIN DAYS OF EACHOTHER - Lebron and Wade signed the deal on the same day.

These three colluders planned this shit out years in advance. So please, tell us more about Kobe almost leaving in 07 and how that is relevant while Lebron leaving his teams multiple times isn't relevant somehow.

Lebron, Wade and Bosh all planned it out 3 years in advance that when it came time in 2010 they would all join each other if they hadn't achieved the amount of success by themselves that they had hoped for.

Keep bringing up Kobe wanting a trade, and I'll keep showing you, and pulling out even more evidence on how Lebron, Wade, Bosh and Bosh/Wade's agent planned this collusion out years in advance

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Just ignore the crap about Kobe and the offseason. Dude is clearly trying to bait.

[HOoopCityJones]

Just ignore the crap about Kobe and the offseason. Dude is clearly trying to bait.

Yea all you do is plug your ears and apply conjecture.

[Cali Syndicate]

Which is worse?

Kobe losing this series after leading 3-1 or McGrady losing in 03 after leading 3-1?

Both lost to teams that made the conference finals.

[NZStreetBaller]

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/Funny%20NBA%20Record/Lebron%20James/aka%20big%20choker/lebron-james-2011-nba-final-4q.jpg~original (http://s304.photobucket.com/user/nbacardDOTnet/media/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/Funny%20NBA%20Record/Lebron%20James/aka%20big%20choker/lebron-james-2011-nba-final-4q.jpg.html)

To quit for 5 games straight tho....Unprecedented. :applause:

Four buckets in 5 quarters!!!! Holy crap!! Has any starter in finals history been this bad??

[Hey Yo]

you are seriously a ****ing dumbass. I'm going to give you this dose of facts/ether then I'm not responding to your pathetic ass again in this thread. Notice how you didn't touch on the fact that you're always giving Kobe shit for ALMOST leaving, but when Lebron actually leaves twice, it doesn't matter to you? Pathetic little **** boy

lol @ how mad you are.





here you go again, setting yourself up to get embarrassed. Lebron signed that extension in the most shady way possible. I've schooled you on this before, but its the new year so I'll give you this lesson again, for free.



CLOSE YOUR EYES IT IS ABOUT TO GET UGLY
YES IT IS....FOR YOU

on July 9th, 2006



http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2513416

on July 18th, 2006



hmm that is weird, what happened to those other two years that you signed up for Lebron, what changed in those 9 days between making a commitment and putting ink to paper?

well let back track a little to get the whole story

on July 4th, 2006, Wade agreed to a 5 year deal with the heat

http://espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2508809

At this time, Bosh and Wade had the same agent - Henry Thomas.

During this July of 2006, Bosh was ready to sign a 5 year deal in Toronto.. when Suddenly just two weeks later he signs for 3 years



http://espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2519484

AND THEN WHAT DO YOU KNOW



http://espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2516735


These three dudes (two of them who have the same agent) all went from verbally agreeing to 5 year contracts - to signing 3 years deals with a player option - ALL WITHIN DAYS OF EACHOTHER - Lebron and Wade signed the deal on the same day.

These three colluders planned this shit out years in advance. So please, tell us more about Kobe almost leaving in 07 and how that is relevant while Lebron leaving his teams multiple times isn't relevant somehow.

Lebron, Wade and Bosh all planned it out 3 years in advance that when it came time in 2010 they would all join each other if they hadn't achieved the amount of success by themselves that they had hoped for.

Keep bringing up Kobe wanting a trade, and I'll keep showing you, and pulling out even more evidence on how Lebron, Wade, Bosh and Bosh/Wade's agent planned this collusion out years in advance
You ready for it,Chico???

The collective bargaining agreement at the time stated that you had to be a 7yr Vet in order to sign the highest and longest MAXIMUM GUARANTEED CONTRACT POSSIBLE a player could as an UFA.

The changes in their contracts was done so because when they expired in 2010, they could sign MAX DEALS the soonest way possible.

Very good business decisions and props to their advisers who saw the original flaw and the $$$ potential on down the road.


you're dimissed

[Wade's Rings]

Four buckets in 5 quarters!!!! Holy crap!! Has any starter in finals history been this bad??

Even sadder is the fact that 2 of those buckets were a spoon fed alley and a fastbreak layup from Wade.

Without those he likely has 2 4th quarter buckets in 5 Games. :facepalm

[Magic 32]

Kobe's quitting stats...

http://s9.postimg.org/7lsxavfkf/85674.png

[Lebron23]

A Rapist, A snitch, a quitter, and a sucker puncher that's Kobe Bryant.

[Showtime2001]

A quitter, a colluder, a beta, a crybaby, and lets his mother sleep with his teammate that's LeBron James.

[Lebron23]

A quitter, a colluder, a beta, a crybaby, and lets his mother sleep with his teammate that's LeBron James.


Meltdown

[Showtime2001]

Meltdown
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2817947/billbored.gif

[raprap]

To be fair to Kobe, his team didn't show up too. There's no doubt he quit in the 2nd half tho. They were out matched

[Mr Feeny]

Maybe if Kobe dropped 40 in regulation, he would have actually won, instead of getting 12 points in OT making it to 50, in a comfortable OT loss..

Not that he didnt have a great game, but he had the ball in his hands for the series, and couldnt deliver. Airball, in fact.

:applause: a.W. stays winning:bowdown:

[PickernRoller]

Yes. Forever a dark spot on his resume.

[feyki]

28/6/5 on 49% fg > 22/4/10 on 50% fg

By all means continue deflecting and melting down.


118 ortg , 108 ortg . Kobe averaged 5 turnovers a game . And Nash had %63 TS , Kobe had %58 .

[RepMe]

Probably .

Nash was also better than him at that series .
:applause:

[tpols]

A Rapist, A snitch, a quitter, and a sucker puncher that's Kobe Bryant.

https://fat.gfycat.com/EsteemedEnergeticHuemul.gif

[Bandito]

A Rapist, A snitch, a quitter, and a sucker puncher that's Kobe Bryant.
Even after all these years, Kobe still lives inside this guys head.

[AlphaWolf24]

Ballhogg when he shoots.......quits when he passes / facilitates...:confusedshrug:


the true satisfaction I get.....last year in the Finals.....when Bron was shot Jacking at 39% ...everyone was amazed....and saying it was the best Bron they ever seen....



"Your welcome" - Kobe

[Magic 32]

A Rapist, A snitch, a quitter, and a sucker puncher that's Kobe Bryant.

http://girlfriendsbookclub.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/The-Simpsons-s11e22-Behind-the-Laughter.jpg

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Yea all you do is plug your ears and apply conjecture.
:whatever:

With that cunty (and misplaced) attitude, last time I bother defending Kobe from an attack unrelated to the thread.