OFFICIAL POLL - YOUR TOP 10 all time (10 points for 1st place, 1 point for 10th. etc)

[kennethgriffin]

http://inspirationalbasketball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/insidehoops.jpeg

official top 10 players of all time


post your top 10. points will be collected and will determine the new top 10 of ISH on an ongoing bases


there is no end to this poll. it is like a ranker. as long as guys keep getting points. they will continue to rise


10 points for 1st
9 points for 2nd
8 points for 3rd
7 points for 4th
6 points for 5th
5 points for 6th
4 points for 7th
3 points for 8th
2 points for 9th
1 point for 10th




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i vote

1. Kareem
2. jordan
3. kobe
4. magic
5. bird
6. russell
7. duncan
8. shaq
9. hakeem
10. wilt

[Dr Hawk]

1 - Michael Jordan - 10 points
2 - Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 9 points
3 - Wilt Chamberlain - 8 points
4 - Shaquille O'Neal - 7 points
5 - Hakeem Olajuwon - 6 points
6 - Magic Johnson - 5 points
7 - Tim Duncan - 4 points
8 - Lebron James - 3 points
9 - Larry Bird - 2 points
10 - Kobe Bryant - 1 point

[MJistheGOAT]

1. MJ
2. Kareem
3. Wilt
4. Magic
5. Larry
6. Shaq
7. Timmy D
8. Hakeem
9. Russell
10. Kobe

[the mesiah]

1.Michael Jordan
2.Magic Johnson
3.Lew Alcindor
4.Wilt Chamberlain
5.Larry Bird
6.Kobe Bryant
7.Tim Duncan
8.Shaquille O'neal
9.Hakeem Olajuwon
10.Bill Russell

[TiagoSimoes]

1 - Michael Jordan - 10 points
2 - Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 9 points
3 - Wilt Chamberlain - 8 points
4 - Shaquille O'neal - 7 points
5 - Larry Bird - 6 points
6 - Magic Johnson - 5 points
7 - Tim Duncan - 4 points
8 - Bill Russell - 3 points
9 - Lebron James - 2 points
10 - Hakeem Olajuwon - 1 points

[Sarcastic]

1 Michael Jordan 10 points
2 Wilt Chamberlain 9 points
3 Magic Johnson 8 points
4 Kareem Abdul Jabbar 7 points
5 Bill Russell 6 points
6 Shaq 5 points
7 Lebron James 4 points
8 Larry Bird 3 points
9 Hakeem Olajuwon 2 points
10 Tim Duncan 1 point

[Lebron23]

1 - Michael Jordan - 10 points
2 - Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 9 points
3 - Bill Russell - 8 points
4 - Magic Johnson - 7 points
5 - Shaquille O'Neal - 6 points
6 - Tim Duncan - 4 points
7 - Lebron James - 3 points
8 - Wilt Chamberlain - 2 points
9 - Larry Bird - 2 points
10 - Kobe Bryant - 1 point

[kennethgriffin]

1.Michael Jordan
2.Magic Johnson
3.Lew Alcindor
4.Wilt Chamberlain
5.Larry Bird
6.Kobe Bryant
7.Tim Duncan
8.Shaquille O'neal
9.Hakeem Olajuwon
10.Bill Russell
11.Lebron James


no points can be given to lebron for an 11th place vote

just sayin

[Angel Face]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Bill Russell
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Kobe Bryant
8. Tim Duncan
9. Wilt Chamberlain
10. Hakeem Olajuwon

[DMV2]

1. Jordan
2. Abdul-Jabbar
3. Magic
4. Bird
5. Russell
6. Duncan
7. Shaq
8. Chamberlain
9. Kobe
10. LeBron

[robby712]

1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Magic
4. Lebron
5. Bird
6. Shaq
7. Russell
8. Duncan
9. Kobe
10. Chamberlain

[the mesiah]

no points can be given to lebron for an 11th place vote

just sayin
Ok, I just copied paste the list up top, and moved mine around , I knew that

[aj1987]

Hey, if Kobe can be ranked as high as #3, LeBron is the GOAT.

1. LeBron
2. MJ
3. KAJ
4. Russell
5. Shaq
6. Magic
7. Bird
8. Duncan
9. Hakeem
10. Wilt

[wally_world]

MJ
Russell
Kareem
Hakeem
Bird
Magic
Duncan
LeBron
Wilt
Shaq

[r0drig0lac]

1- MJ
2- Bill Russell
3- KAJ
4- Wilt
5- Duncan
6- Bird
7- Magic
8- Shaq
9- Lebron
10- Kobe

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Jordan
Kareem
Russell
Wilt
Duncan
Magic
Shaq
Bird
Bron
Kobe

[feyki]

Bill
2-Kareem
3-Jordan
4-Wilt
5-Mikan
6-Bird
7-Duncan
8-Magic
9-Hakeem
10-Kobe

[Fallen Angel]

1. Lebron James - 10 pts
2. Hakeem Olajuwon - 9 pts
3. Tim Duncan - 8 pts
4. Bill Russell - 7 pts
5. Larry Bird - 6 pts
6. Shaquille O'Neal - 5 pts
7. Wilt Chamberlain - 4 pts
8. Magic Johnson - 3 pts
9. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 2 pts
10. Michael Jordan - 1 pts

[Marchesk]

Jordan
Wilt
Kareem
Russell
Magic
Lebron
Duncan
Bird
Shaq
Kobe

[the mesiah]

Jordan
Wilt
Kareem
Russell
Magic
Lebron
Duncan
Bird
Shaq
Kobe
Interesting that high coming from you,

[ISHGoat]

1 - Michael Jordan - 10 points
2 - Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 9 points
3 - Bill Russell - 8 points
4 - Magic Johnson - 7 points
5 - Shaquille O'Neal - 6 points
6 - Tim Duncan - 4 points
7 - Lebron James - 3 points
8 - Wilt Chamberlain - 2 points
9 - Larry Bird - 2 points
10 - Hakeem Olajuwon - 1 point

[Quickening]

1- Michael Jordan - 10 points
2 - Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 9 points
3 - Lebron James- 8 points
4 - Magic Johnson - 7 points
5 - Shaquille O'Neal - 6 points
6 - Tim Duncan - 4 points
7 - Bill Russell - 3 points
8 - Wilt Chamberlain - 2 points
9 - Larry Bird - 2 points
10 - Hakeem Olajuwon - 1 point

[ISHGoat]

Welp, this looks like another thread backfire from OP.

[LAZERUSS]

1. Wilt
2. MJ
3. Magic
4. Kareem
5. Russell
6. Shaq
7. Duncan
8. Lebron
9. Kobe
10. Bird

[kennethgriffin]

Welp, this looks like another thread backfire from OP.


you keep track of the votes. i now put you in charge of counting due to boredom

[Bankaii]

Since we all know the agenda behind this thread...

Kobe: 30 points.
Bron: 48 points. (And that's excluding 20 points because OP makes up rules that don't help his agenda).

Thread backfire. Inb4 the alts/trolls.

[eurobum]

1 - Michael Jordan - 10 points
2 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 9 points
3 - Shaquille O'Neal - 8 points
4 - Bill Russell - 7 points
5 - Larry Bird - 6 points
6 - Tim Duncan - 5 points
7 - Magic Johnson - 4 points
8 - Lebron James - 3 points
9 - Wilt Chamberlain - 2 points
10 - Kobe Bryant - 1 point

Honorable mention: Jerry West, Oscar Robertson

[Mass Debator]

i vote

1. Kareem
2. jordan
3. kobe
4. magic
5. bird
6. russell
7. duncan
8. shaq
9. hakeem
10. wilt
1. Wilt
2. Hakeem
3. Shaq
4. Duncan
5. Russell
6. Bird
7. Magic
8. Kobe
9. Jordan
10. Kareem

[Sakkreth]

1 - Michael Jordan - 10 points
2 - Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 9 points
3 - Bill Russell - 8 points
4 - Wilt Chamberlain - 7 points
5 - LeBron James- 6 points
6 - Larry Bird - 5 points
7 - Magic Johnson - 4 points
8 - Shaquille O'Neal - 3 points
9 - Tim Duncan - 2 points
10 - Hakeem Olajuwon - 1 point

[tmacattack33]

1. M. Jordan
2. K. Abdul Jabbar
3. W. Chamberlain
4. B. Russell
5. Magic Johnson
6. Shaq
7. Tim Duncan
8. Lebron James
9. Larry Bird
10. Hakeem Olajuwon

[Prime_Shaq]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Shaq
7. Tim Duncan
8. Wilt Chamberlain
9. LeBron James
10. Kobe Bryant

[brownmamba00]

1.Cap
2.MJ
3.Magic
4.Russell
5.Bird
6.Shaq
7.Wilt
8.Kobe
9.Hakeem
10.LeBron

[AnaheimLakers24]

Kareem
mj
magic
kobe
bird
russel
shaq
duncan
wilt
hakeem

[kennethgriffin]

this is why ISH will never have an official top 10



people sabotage polls by flipping the order and having jordan 10th, voting bran top 5 and some cases #1, leaving kobe out all together

when you all know none of this is even remotely possible



i retire from debating all time rankings on this forum

[Genaro]

MJ
KAJ
Wilt
Magic
Bird
Kobe
Duncan
Shaq
Hakeem
Lebron

[RepMe]

1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Russell
4. Magic
5. Duncan
6. Bird
7. Shaq
8. Wilt
9. Hakeem
10. Curry

[pegasus]

1 - MJ
2 - KAJ
3 - Russell
4- Kobe
5- Magic
6- Duncan
7- Bird
8- Shaq
9- Hakeem
10- Chamberlain

[RepMe]

you keep track of the votes. i now put you in charge of counting due to boredom

1. Claim there is no end to this poll
2. Gives up less than 2 hours later
3. ?????
4. Profit

[kennethgriffin]

1. Claim there is no end to this poll
2. Gives up less than 2 hours later
3. ?????
4. Profit


blame yourselves


ISH is just full of idiots that don't care about finding out the truth. they all just push agendas


atleast i have legit case for kobes career being top 3-4

[tmacattack33]

this is why ISH will never have an official top 10



people sabotage polls by flipping the order and having jordan 10th, voting bran top 5 and some cases #1, leaving kobe out all together

when you all know none of this is even remotely possible



i retire from debating all time rankings on this forum

Get outta here bro.

Kobe isn't consensus top 10 at all.

And his peak isn't even consensus top 15, and he might not have even been the best player in the league in his peak years of 2006 (Wade was about even with him...if you value playoffs more you will pick Wade, if not then Kobe is a decent pick though) and 2009 (Lebron was better in total, and Wade's regular season was better).

You can also go check realgm's polls. They ban trolls, so their list is probably better than any ISH list.

[kennethgriffin]

Get outta here bro.

Kobe isn't consensus top 10 at all.

And his peak isn't even consensus top 15, and he might not have even been the best player in the league in his peak years of 2006 (Wade was better) and 2009 (Lebron was better in total, and Wade's regular season was better).

You can also go check realgm's polls. They ban trolls, so their list is probably better than any ISH list.



#1 all time in Guard scoring ( 33k points )
#1 all time in first team all nbas ( 11 )
#1 all time in defensive first teams ( 9 )
#1 all time in allstar game starts ( 18 to 2nd best Jordans 13 )
#1 all time in allstar game mvps ( 4 )
#1 all time in 50+ win teams beatin ( 24 )
#1 all time in game winning shots ( 36 )
#1 all time in 3 pointers made in a game ( 12 )
#2 all time in points scored in a game ( 81 )
#2 all time in consecutive 50 point games ( 4 )
#2 all time in 60 point games ( 5 )
#2 all time in 30 point games ( 427 )
#3 all time in 40 point games ( 119 )
#3 all time in 50 pint games ( 24 )
#3 all time in overall scoring ( 33k points )

2000 NBA title averaging 21/5/5 in the playoffs ( saved wcf gm 7, finals gm 4 )
2001 NBA title averaging 29/7/6 in the playoffs ( 33ppg vs WC, 15-1 record )
2002 NBA title averaging 27/6/5 in the playoffs ( 27/6/5 finals average )
2009 NBA title averaging 30/5/5 in the playoffs ( Finals MVP )
2010 NBA title averaging 29/5/6 in the playoffs ( Finals MVP )




3rd all time

[kennethgriffin]

and i keep hearing about peaks and how kobe isnt there


kobe has more 50 point games in 2007 than lebron has in his entire life


so people can shut the **** up about whos peak is more dominant


put 2006 or 2007 kobe on the miami heatles and he wins more than 2 out of 4 ( and wouldnt need a ray allen bail out

[aj1987]

OP is so ****ing mad right now. :roll: :roll: :roll:

[tmacattack33]

#1 all time in Guard scoring ( 33k points )
#1 all time in first team all nbas ( 11 )
#1 all time in defensive first teams ( 9 )
#1 all time in allstar game starts ( 18 to 2nd best Jordans 13 )
#1 all time in allstar game mvps ( 4 )
#1 all time in 50+ win teams beatin ( 24 )
#1 all time in game winning shots ( 36 )
#1 all time in 3 pointers made in a game ( 12 )
#2 all time in points scored in a game ( 81 )
#2 all time in consecutive 50 point games ( 4 )
#2 all time in 60 point games ( 5 )
#2 all time in 30 point games ( 427 )
#3 all time in 40 point games ( 119 )
#3 all time in 50 pint games ( 24 )
#3 all time in overall scoring ( 33k points )

2000 NBA title averaging 21/5/5 in the playoffs ( saved wcf gm 7, finals gm 4 )
2001 NBA title averaging 29/7/6 in the playoffs ( 33ppg vs WC, 15-1 record )
2002 NBA title averaging 27/6/5 in the playoffs ( 27/6/5 finals average )
2009 NBA title averaging 30/5/5 in the playoffs ( Finals MVP )
2010 NBA title averaging 29/5/6 in the playoffs ( Finals MVP )




3rd all time

A lot of scoring records is great, but of course is weighed down by the fact that he was shot chucker and inefficient.

His playoff runs were good, but his earlier playoff runs had a low FG%, TS%, and/or eFG%.

And of course his 2010 title wasn't that impressive. Gasol's was almost equal to it, if not equal.

[kennethgriffin]

OP is so ****ing mad right now. :roll: :roll: :roll:



50 point games by kobe in 2007 = 10


50 point games by lebron in 2004








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= 10



let it sink in

[tmacattack33]

and i keep hearing about peaks and how kobe isnt there


kobe has more 50 point games in 2007 than lebron has in his entire life


so people can shut the **** up about whos peak is more dominant


put 2006 or 2007 kobe on the miami heatles and he wins more than 2 out of 4 ( and wouldnt need a ray allen bail out

Not sure how an inefficient chucker would help out a team with many other good options. He likely would have dropped down their efficiency and made them worse.

Meanwhile, Lebron was able to facilitate well and get Bosh and Ray Allen many easy looks. While scoring a whole lot as well at amazing efficiency levels.

[kennethgriffin]

A lot of scoring records is great, but of course is weighed down by the fact that he was shot chucker and inefficient.

His playoff runs were good, but his earlier playoff runs had a low FG%, TS%, and/or eFG%.

And of course his 2010 title wasn't that impressive. Gasol's was almost equal to it, if not equal.


kobes points per shot for his career is 1.30


jordans points per shot for his career is 1.30




kobe was efficient. anyone whos NOT efficient that averages as many points as kobe DOES NOT win 5 titles in any type of modern day basketball

[ShawkFactory]

and i keep hearing about peaks and how kobe isnt there


kobe has more 50 point games in 2007 than lebron has in his entire life


so people can shut the **** up about whos peak is more dominant


put 2006 or 2007 kobe on the miami heatles and he wins more than 2 out of 4 ( and wouldnt need a ray allen bail out
So much backfire :lol

If you weren't so heavily agenda-driven as a poster, threads that you make wouldn't be so agenda driven. Just sayin

I've seen a lot of honest lists in here as well.

[kennethgriffin]

Not sure how an inefficient chucker would help out a team with many other good options. He likely would have dropped down their efficiency and made them worse.

Meanwhile, Lebron was able to facilitate well and get Bosh and Ray Allen many easy looks. While scoring a whole lot as well at amazing efficiency levels.


again




kobes points per shot for his career is 1.30


jordans points per shot for his career is 1.30




kobe was efficient. anyone whos NOT efficient that averages as many points as kobe DOES NOT win 5 titles in any type of modern day basketball

[DMV2]

Kenny, why did you delete the count from your OP?

was it because Kirby wasn't Top 5?

[kennethgriffin]

So much backfire :lol

If you weren't so heavily agenda-driven as a poster, heads that you make wouldn't be so agenda driven. Just sayin

I've seen a lot of honest lists in here as well.



youre just sad that i make great points


keep hating on the guy who matched lebrons career in just 1 teeny tiny season for total 50 point games


that right there says everything. no need to even bring up the 5 for 7 finals trumping 2 for 6



lebron just simply wasnt nearly as dominant as kobe at his best

[kennethgriffin]

Kenny, why did you delete the count from your OP?

was it because Kirby wasn't Top 5?



too many trolls, fake accounts, saboteurs... got tired of sifting through the bullshit

ISH isn't worthy of my time counting and making a sensible poll

[ShawkFactory]

youre just sad that i make great points


keep hating on the guy who matched lebrons career in just 1 teeny tiny season for total 50 point games


that right there says everything. no need to even bring up the 5 for 7 finals trumping 2 for 6



lebron just simply wasnt nearly as dominant as kobe at his best
:roll: :roll: :roll:

You've never brought up a good point. And if you did it wouldn't make me sad. I'd be impressed.

But that's yet to happen.

[kennethgriffin]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

You've never brought up a good point. And if you did it wouldn't make me sad. I'd be impressed.

But that's yet to happen.


kobe in 1 season > lebron in 13 seasons


let it marinate



let the juices sink in



you'l be ready for dinner in no time

[tmacattack33]

50 point games by kobe in 2007 = 10


50 point games by lebron in 2004








+2005







+2006








+2007









+2008










+2009











+2010









+2011











+2012











+2013










+2014










+2015











+2016










= 10



let it sink in

Great. And Stephen Curry is having the GOAT offensive year right now and hasn't had a single 50 point game since opening night.

And if Curry did have a 50 point game similar to a Kobe 50 point game (one with around 40 true shot attempts), his 38 point games on 24 true shot attempts to the line would still be better than them.

And if you want to talk Lebron, then Lebron's 45 point games on 35 true shot attempts with 8 assists and 8 rebounds are better than basically 90% of Kobe's 50 point games.

[ShawkFactory]

kobe in 1 season > lebron in 13 seasons


let it marinate



let the juices sink in



you'l be ready for dinner in no time
I know you think you're making a good point, or making me sad by saying that over and over.

Really you're just proving your anger to me and everyone here :lol

[kennethgriffin]

Great. And Stephen Curry is having the GOAT offensive year right now and hasn't had a single 50 point game since opening night.

And if Curry did have a 50 point game similar to a Kobe 50 point game (one with around 40 true shot attempts), his 38 point games on 24 true shot attempts to the line would still be better than them.



just tells you how much currys being carried by teammates is all... if he didnt have the greatest 12 man roster since the 60's celtics.. maybe he'd have a few more 50's in there somewhere



when kobe won.. he only had 1 other great player. and only 2 other GOOD players... everyone else was SHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIITTTTT top to bottom for all 5 titles


curry might be the best by far right now. but prime kobe would be averaging 40 in todays league

[tmacattack33]

I mean sh*t, Kobe is borderline top 10. Be happy with that.

There have been like 10,000 players to ever play in the NBA, a million to ever play college, a billion to ever play high school ball, and like 10 billion to ever pick up a basketball.

I can't stand delusional fans though. So GTFO.

We're talking about who the better player is, not who's better at putting up 50 points with as many shots as possible.

[kennethgriffin]

I know you think you're making a good point, or making me sad by saying that over and over.

Really you're just proving your anger to me and everyone here :lol



10 in 1 year

10 in 13 years

[ShawkFactory]

just tells you how much currys being carried by teammates is all... if he didnt have the greatest 12 man roster since the 60's celtics.. maybe he'd have a few more 50's in there somewhere



when kobe won.. he only had 1 other great player. and only 2 other GOOD players... everyone else was SHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIITTTTT top to bottom for all 5 titles


curry might be the best by far right now. but prime kobe would be averaging 40 in todays league
And now the troll crown comes out :lol

You're like that crazy woman who tries really hard for 90 days not to show that she's crazy. For you its 50 or so posts :oldlol:

[kennethgriffin]

I mean sh*t, Kobe is borderline top 10. Be happy with that.

There have been like 10,000 players to ever play in the NBA, a million to ever play college, a billion to ever play high school ball, and like 10 billion to ever pick up a basketball.

I can't stand delusional fans though. So GTFO.



on a real ranking poll hes currently 6th



http://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/the-top-nba-players-of-all-time?

[kennethgriffin]

And now the troll crown comes out :lol

You're like that crazy woman who tries really hard for 90 days not to show that she's crazy. For you its 50 or so posts :oldlol:


kobe averaged 35ppg in 2006


youre telling me in todays era WITHOUT CENTERS and even worse pussafied reffing that makes guys like james harden get prime jordan amounts of free throws per game


that kobe couldnt up his average by just 5 points?



kobe was slamming all over guys like prime duncan... youre telling me he cant slam a few extra dunks on todays 6-9 centers?

LOL

[tmacattack33]

on a real ranking poll hes currently 6th



http://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/the-top-nba-players-of-all-time?

That sh*t read likes a popularity list.

Hey kids, who are some of your bball icons:

1. MJ
2. Magic
3. Bird

And then you got Iverson at 26 and KG at 29 :facepalm

[ShawkFactory]

kobe averaged 35ppg in 2006


youre telling me in todays era WITHOUT CENTERS and even worse pussafied reffing that makes guys like james harden get prime jordan amounts of free throws per game


that kobe couldnt up his average by just 5 points?



kobe was slamming all over guys like prime duncan... youre telling me he cant slam a few extra dunks on todays 6-9 centers?

LOL
No, I don't think he average 5 more ppg. 2006 had the highest influx of scoring of modern times. A 21 y/o lebron averaged 31.

30 y/o AI averaged 33.

[Mr. Jabbar]

1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Kobe
4. magic
5. bird
6. russell
7. duncan
8. shaq
9. Wilt
10. Hakeem

[kennethgriffin]

No, I don't think he average 5 more ppg. 2006 had the highest influx of scoring of modern times. A 21 y/o lebron averaged 31.

30 y/o AI averaged 33.


there were allot better players back in 2006


and its amazing what lebron can do when hes not colluding


kinda makes you wonder what it was all for huh

[ShawkFactory]

there were allot better players back in 2006


and its amazing what lebron can do when hes not colluding


kinda makes you wonder what it was all for huh
So lebron IS amazing. I see

Anyway. 21 y/o lebron and 30 y/o AI wouldn't be the best 2 players in the league.

[kennethgriffin]

So lebron IS amazing. I see

Anyway. 21 y/o lebron and 30 y/o AI wouldn't be the best 2 players in the league.

27 year old kobe is better than stephen curry
30 year old AI is better than kawhi leonard
21 year old lebron is better than current lebron


lebron honestly stinks these days.. his stats are empty. he shoots worse than current kobe beyond 5 feet


statistical facts ... i saw the thread yesterday

[zeerghit]

1 - Wilt - 10 points
2 - Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 9 points
3 - Jordan - 8 points
4 - Russel - 7 points
5 - SHAQ - 6 points
6 - Magic Johnson - 5 points
7 - Tim Duncan - 4 points
8 - Hakeem - 3 points
9 - Larry Bird - 2 points
10 - West - 1 point

btw. fu*k you kenneth u peace of shit.

[ShawkFactory]

27 year old kobe is better than stephen curry
30 year old AI is better than kawhi leonard
21 year old lebron is better than current lebron


lebron honestly stinks these days.. his stats are empty. he shoots worse than current kobe beyond 5 feet


statistical facts ... i saw the thread yesterday
Deflection city baby!

21 y/o Lebron and 30 y/o AI both scored more than anyone in the game right now.

According to your views they would both be better than Curry, Durant, Kawhi, wtc

[kennethgriffin]

Deflection city baby!

21 y/o Lebron and 30 y/o AI both scored more than anyone in the game right now.

According to your views they would both be better than Curry, Durant, Kawhi, wtc




i didnt say 2006 kobe would average 40 in todays game because hes the best. ( which he would be )

i said it would be because he would be on a team that allowed him to average 40 and he can do it ( like the 2006 lakers )


obviously kobe on a great team in todays league wouldnt average more than 32-33 because he knows how to dial it back


i dont think iversons better than kawhi because of numbers either


neither do i think a younger lebron is more effective due to totals


i can think outside the box and gather that younger lebron ( still unable to shoot like todays lebron ) can get to the rim with his ultimate athleticism. he did free throw line dunks for god sake. he was a beast and a true physical specimen


todays lebron is a slower broken down version. still great. but not nearly as dominant athletically



iverson was a much much much better offensive player than kawhi. regardless of the numbers anyone can see this... kawhis better at defense. but his defense cant stop great shooters. just guys who drive like lebron. and iversons was a straight up shooter in 2006



as for the kobe vs curry coparrison... there really isnt one. kobe is so multi faceted offensively. he can manufacture points like harden when his shot isnt falling. currys forced to pass




my argument in terms of scoring was strictly era/potential based

[ShawkFactory]

i didnt say 2006 kobe would average 40 in todays game because hes the best. ( which he would be )

i said it would be because he would be on a team that allowed him to average 40 and he can do it ( like the 2006 lakers )


obviously kobe on a great team in todays league wouldnt average more than 32-33 because he knows how to dial it back


i dont think iversons better than kawhi because of numbers either


neither do i think a younger lebron is more effective due to totals


i can think outside the box and gather that younger lebron ( still unable to shoot like todays lebron ) can get to the rim with his ultimate athleticism. he did free throw line dunks for god sake. he was a beast and a true physical specimen


todays lebron is a slower broken down version. still great. but not nearly as dominant athletically



iverson was a much much much better offensive player than kawhi. regardless of the numbers anyone can see this... kawhis better at defense. but his defense cant stop great shooters. just guys who drive like lebron. and iversons was a straight up shooter in 2006



as for the kobe vs curry coparrison... there really isnt one. kobe is so multi faceted offensively. he can manufacture points like harden when his shot isnt falling. currys forced to pass




my argument in terms of scoring was strictly era/potential based
There was no Kobe/Curry comparison in anything that I said...or implied..

Kobe was actually not a part of anything I said. Yet the meat of your essay is dedicated to him. Hmmm...

[LAZERUSS]

So we are allowed to give our opinions then...and this is not just a vote?

[aj1987]

50 point games by kobe in 2007 = 10

50 point games by lebron in 2004

+2005

+2006

+2007

+2008

+2009

+2010

+2011

+2012

+2013

+2014

+2015

+2016

= 10

let it sink in

40+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 3
Kobe - 1

35+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 6
Kobe - 4

30+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 12
Kobe - 13

Total number of games played in the Finals:

LeBron - 33
Kobe - 37

45+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 7
Kobe - 5

40+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 15
Kobe - 13

35+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 35
Kobe - 35

30+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 80
Kobe - 88

Total number of games played in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 178
Kobe - 220

Career Finals Average (Kobe): 25.1/5.6/5.1/1.4/.7 shooting 41%
Career Finals Average (LeBron): 26.2/9.4/6.8/1.7/.5 shooting 46%

Career Playoffs Average (Kobe): 25.6/5.1/4.7/1.4/0.7 shooting 44.8%
Career Playoffs Average (LeBron): 28.2/8.8/6.7/1.7/0.9 shooting 47.3%

Career RS Average (Kobe): 24.9/5.2/4.7/1.4/0.5 shooting 44.9%
Career RS Average (LeBron): 27.2/7.1/6.9/1.7/0.8 shooting 49.6%


Let that sink in.

[Cold soul]

1) Jordan
2) Kareem
3) Magic
4) Russell
5) Wilt
6) Kobe
7) Duncan
8) Bird
9) Shaq
10) Lebron

[Sakkreth]

40+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 3
Kobe - 1

35+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 6
Kobe - 4

30+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 12
Kobe - 13

Total number of games played in the Finals:

LeBron - 33
Kobe - 37

45+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 7
Kobe - 5

40+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 15
Kobe - 13

35+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 35
Kobe - 35

30+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 80
Kobe - 88

Total number of games played in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 178
Kobe - 220

Career Finals Average (Kobe): 25.1/5.6/5.1/1.4/.7 shooting 41%
Career Finals Average (LeBron): 26.2/9.4/6.8/1.7/.5 shooting 46%

Career Playoffs Average (Kobe): 25.6/5.1/4.7/1.4/0.7 shooting 44.8%
Career Playoffs Average (LeBron): 28.2/8.8/6.7/1.7/0.9 shooting 47.3%

Career RS Average (Kobe): 24.9/5.2/4.7/1.4/0.5 shooting 44.9%
Career RS Average (LeBron): 27.2/7.1/6.9/1.7/0.8 shooting 49.6%


Let that sink in.

https://giant.gfycat.com/GrayJampackedBeagle.gif

[nba_55]

40+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 3
Kobe - 1

35+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 6
Kobe - 4

30+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 12
Kobe - 13

Total number of games played in the Finals:

LeBron - 33
Kobe - 37

45+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 7
Kobe - 5

40+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 15
Kobe - 13

35+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 35
Kobe - 35

30+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 80
Kobe - 88

Total number of games played in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 178
Kobe - 220

Career Finals Average (Kobe): 25.1/5.6/5.1/1.4/.7 shooting 41%
Career Finals Average (LeBron): 26.2/9.4/6.8/1.7/.5 shooting 46%

Career Playoffs Average (Kobe): 25.6/5.1/4.7/1.4/0.7 shooting 44.8%
Career Playoffs Average (LeBron): 28.2/8.8/6.7/1.7/0.9 shooting 47.3%

Career RS Average (Kobe): 24.9/5.2/4.7/1.4/0.5 shooting 44.9%
Career RS Average (LeBron): 27.2/7.1/6.9/1.7/0.8 shooting 49.6%


Let that sink in.

repped

[BlazerRed]

1 - Michael Jordan - 10 points
2 - Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 9 points
3 - Wilt Chamberlain - 8 points
4 - Larry Bird - 7 points
5 - Magic Johnson 6 points
6 - Shaq - 5 points
7 - Tim Duncan - 4 points
8 - Bill Russell - 3 points
9 - Kobe Bryant - 2 points
10 - Lesmallcock - 1 points

[tmacattack33]

40+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 3
Kobe - 1

35+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 6
Kobe - 4

30+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 12
Kobe - 13

Total number of games played in the Finals:

LeBron - 33
Kobe - 37

45+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 7
Kobe - 5

40+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 15
Kobe - 13

35+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 35
Kobe - 35

30+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 80
Kobe - 88

Total number of games played in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 178
Kobe - 220

Career Finals Average (Kobe): 25.1/5.6/5.1/1.4/.7 shooting 41%
Career Finals Average (LeBron): 26.2/9.4/6.8/1.7/.5 shooting 46%

Career Playoffs Average (Kobe): 25.6/5.1/4.7/1.4/0.7 shooting 44.8%
Career Playoffs Average (LeBron): 28.2/8.8/6.7/1.7/0.9 shooting 47.3%

Career RS Average (Kobe): 24.9/5.2/4.7/1.4/0.5 shooting 44.9%
Career RS Average (LeBron): 27.2/7.1/6.9/1.7/0.8 shooting 49.6%


Let that sink in.

:roll:

[stalkerforlife]

Jordan
Kobe
Kareem
Duncan
Magic
Bird
Russell
Shaq
Hakeem
Wilt

[stalkerforlife]

And all the Bran alts CAN'T be counted.

[TheImmortal]

1. Kobe Bryant - 10 pts
2. Michael Jordan - 9 pts
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 8 pts
4. Wilt Chamberlain - 7 pts
5. Shaquille O'Neal - 6 pts
6. Tim Duncan - 5 pts
7. Larry Bird - 4 pts
8. Magic Johnson - 3 pts
9. Bill Russell - 2 pts
10. Hakeem Olajuwon - 1pt



20. LeBron James 0 pts

[choppermagic]

1. MJ
2. Kareem
3. Magic
4. Wilt
5. Kobe
6. Larry
7. Hakeem
8. Duncan
9. Russell
10. Shaq

and +50 points to Gryffindor for whatever reason!

[SexSymbol]

1.Russell
2.MJ
3.Kareem
4.Kobe
5.Bird
6.Magic
7.Duncan
8.Shaq
9.Hakeem
10.Wilt

[ISHGoat]

40+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 3
Kobe - 1

35+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 6
Kobe - 4

30+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 12
Kobe - 13

Total number of games played in the Finals:

LeBron - 33
Kobe - 37

45+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 7
Kobe - 5

40+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 15
Kobe - 13

35+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 35
Kobe - 35

30+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 80
Kobe - 88

Total number of games played in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 178
Kobe - 220

Career Finals Average (Kobe): 25.1/5.6/5.1/1.4/.7 shooting 41%
Career Finals Average (LeBron): 26.2/9.4/6.8/1.7/.5 shooting 46%

Career Playoffs Average (Kobe): 25.6/5.1/4.7/1.4/0.7 shooting 44.8%
Career Playoffs Average (LeBron): 28.2/8.8/6.7/1.7/0.9 shooting 47.3%

Career RS Average (Kobe): 24.9/5.2/4.7/1.4/0.5 shooting 44.9%
Career RS Average (LeBron): 27.2/7.1/6.9/1.7/0.8 shooting 49.6%


Let that sink in.

Holy shit.

Take it easy on Kenneth, hes mentally handicapped and can only perform basic operations and logic.

[BigTicket]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Wilt Chamberlain
4. Tim Duncan
5. Lebron James
6. Larry Bird
7. Magic Johnson
8. Shaquille O'Neal
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Bill Russell

[Bankaii]

40+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 3
Kobe - 1

35+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 6
Kobe - 4

30+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 12
Kobe - 13

Total number of games played in the Finals:

LeBron - 33
Kobe - 37

45+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 7
Kobe - 5

40+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 15
Kobe - 13

35+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 35
Kobe - 35

30+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 80
Kobe - 88

Total number of games played in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 178
Kobe - 220

Career Finals Average (Kobe): 25.1/5.6/5.1/1.4/.7 shooting 41%
Career Finals Average (LeBron): 26.2/9.4/6.8/1.7/.5 shooting 46%

Career Playoffs Average (Kobe): 25.6/5.1/4.7/1.4/0.7 shooting 44.8%
Career Playoffs Average (LeBron): 28.2/8.8/6.7/1.7/0.9 shooting 47.3%

Career RS Average (Kobe): 24.9/5.2/4.7/1.4/0.5 shooting 44.9%
Career RS Average (LeBron): 27.2/7.1/6.9/1.7/0.8 shooting 49.6%


Let that sink in.
:bowdown: :applause:

"Kobe's the better scorer because he's dumb enough to take harder shots doe".

Rip Kobetards:roll:

[Moonbeam]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Tim Duncan
6. Magic Johnson
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. LeBron James
9. Larry Bird
10. Jerry West

[DMAVS41]

MJ
Russell
Magic
Duncan
Kareem
Wilt
Bird
Shaq
Lebron
Hakeem

[kennethgriffin]

40+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 3
Kobe - 1

35+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 6
Kobe - 4

30+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 12
Kobe - 13

Total number of games played in the Finals:

LeBron - 33
Kobe - 37

45+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 7
Kobe - 5

40+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 15
Kobe - 13

35+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 35
Kobe - 35

30+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 80
Kobe - 88

Total number of games played in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 178
Kobe - 220

Career Finals Average (Kobe): 25.1/5.6/5.1/1.4/.7 shooting 41%
Career Finals Average (LeBron): 26.2/9.4/6.8/1.7/.5 shooting 46%

Career Playoffs Average (Kobe): 25.6/5.1/4.7/1.4/0.7 shooting 44.8%
Career Playoffs Average (LeBron): 28.2/8.8/6.7/1.7/0.9 shooting 47.3%

Career RS Average (Kobe): 24.9/5.2/4.7/1.4/0.5 shooting 44.9%
Career RS Average (LeBron): 27.2/7.1/6.9/1.7/0.8 shooting 49.6%


Let that sink in.




its not hard to put up stats and go 2 for 6 ( in reality ... 1 for 6 *ray allen ) with easy trips to the finals


theres a reason this was on espn during last years finals


http://s12.postimg.org/fiwmzsvn1/CIu6g_DI.jpg



tmac has great playoff stats btw

[Cold soul]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Tim Duncan
6. Magic Johnson
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. LeBron James
9. Larry Bird
10. Jerry West


Jerry West top 10. :biggums:

[JebronLames]

1. LeBron
2. MJ
3. KAJ
4. Tim Duncan
5. Shaq
6. Magic
7. Bird
8. Hakeem
9. Pau Gasol
10. Robert Horry

[raprap]

1. Jordan - 10
2. Kareem- 9
3. Magic - 8
4. Russell - 7
5. Wilt - 6
6. Duncan - 5
7. Shaq - 4
8. Bird - 3
9. James - 2
10. Kobe - 1

[Moonbeam]

Jerry West top 10. :biggums:

I think he's got a good case. :confusedshrug:

Great all-around player, fantastic scorer, very good playmaker and defender, and one of the very best at stepping up in the playoffs, particularly in the Finals against the best defensive dynasty the league has ever seen. If you look at how his teams fared in games with him vs. without him, he looks amazing.

It's between him and Hakeem for me for the 10th spot.

[Lebron23]

https://giant.gfycat.com/GrayJampackedBeagle.gif


That's an amazing gif, and AJ1987 pwned Kennethgriffin. The Thread backfired.

[kennethgriffin]

That's an amazing gif, and AJ1987 pwned Kennethgriffin. The Thread backfired.


2 for 6

[JohnFreeman]

Michael Jordan - 10 points
Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 9 points
Bill Russell - 8 points
Magic Johnson - 7 points
Larry Bird - 6 points
Shaq - 5 points
Duncan - 4 points
LeBron - 3 points
Hakeem - 2 points
Kobe Bryant - 1 point

[Joel Embiid]

Michael Jordan - 10 points
Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 9 points
Bill Russell - 8 points
Magic Johnson - 7 points
Larry Bird - 6 points
Shaq - 5 points
Duncan - 3 points
LeBron - 3 points
Wilt - 2 points
Hakeem - 1 point

[stalkerforlife]

Waaaaaaaaaaaay too many Bran alts...can't do a correct calculation.

Thread is over.

[Lebron23]

40+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 3
Kobe - 1

35+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 6
Kobe - 4

30+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 12
Kobe - 13

Total number of games played in the Finals:

LeBron - 33
Kobe - 37

45+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 7
Kobe - 5

40+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 15
Kobe - 13

35+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 35
Kobe - 35

30+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 80
Kobe - 88

Total number of games played in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 178
Kobe - 220

Career Finals Average (Kobe): 25.1/5.6/5.1/1.4/.7 shooting 41%
Career Finals Average (LeBron): 26.2/9.4/6.8/1.7/.5 shooting 46%

Career Playoffs Average (Kobe): 25.6/5.1/4.7/1.4/0.7 shooting 44.8%
Career Playoffs Average (LeBron): 28.2/8.8/6.7/1.7/0.9 shooting 47.3%

Career RS Average (Kobe): 24.9/5.2/4.7/1.4/0.5 shooting 44.9%
Career RS Average (LeBron): 27.2/7.1/6.9/1.7/0.8 shooting 49.6%


Let that sink in.


This just ended the thread. AJ1987 wins.

[Lebron23]

2 for 6


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPRJlbxCQAA_IuX.jpg

[rs98762001]

1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Wilt
4. Russell
5. Magic
6. Bird
7. Shaq
8. Kobe
9. Duncan
10. Hakeem

[tmacattack33]

Waaaaaaaaaaaay too many Bran alts...can't do a correct calculation.

Thread is over.


The thread was already over after the first post

[plowking]

OP thought he'd pick now after all the backlash against Bron, and he still gets rekt. :oldlol:

You gotta love it. :oldlol:

[kennethgriffin]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPRJlbxCQAA_IuX.jpg

all time 2nd leading scorers on championship teams


Playoffs:

2001 Kobe Bryant 29.4
2002 Kobe Bryant 26.6
1986 Kevin Mchale 24.9
1958 Bob Pettit 24.2
1963 Sam Jones 23.8
1966 John Havlicek 23.6
1972 Jerry West 22.9
2012 Dwyane Wade 22.8
1987 Magic Johnson 21.8
1967 Wilt Chamberlain 21.7
1991 Scottie Pippen 21.6
1985 James Worthy 21.5
1978 Bob Dandridge 21.2
2000 Kobe Bryant 21.1
1957 Bill Sharman 21.1
1976 Dave Cowens 21.0
1979 Dennis Johnson 20.9
2005 Manu Ginobili 20.8
2007 Tony Parker 20.8
1962 Tom Heinsohn 20.7
1968 Sam Jones 20.5
1995 Clyde Drexler 20.5
1974 Dave Cowens 20.5
1982 Kareem Abdul Jabbar 20.4
1980 Jamaal Wilkes 20.3
1956 Neil Johnston 20.3
1993 Scottie Pippen 20.1
1959 Bill Sharman 20.1
2006 Shaquille O'neal 20.0
1988 Magic Johnson 19.9
2010 Pau Gasol 19.6
1992 Scottie Pippen 19.5
1997 Scottie Pippen 19.2
1971 Bob Dandridge 19.2
1961 Bill Russell 19.1
2008 Kevin Garnett 18.8
1983 Andrew Tony 18.8
2015 Klay Thompson 18.6
1965 John Havlicek 18.5
1960 Bill Russell 18.5
2009 Pau Gasol 18.3
1977 Bill Walton 18.2
1990 Joe Dumars 18.2
1989 Joe Dumars 17.6
2011 Jason Terry 17.5
1964 Tom Heinsohn 17.4
1970 Dick Barnett 16.9
1996 Scottie Pippen 16.9
1998 Scottie Pippen 16.8
1969 Sam Jones 16.8
1984 Dennis Johnson 16.6
2004 Chauncey Billups 16.4
2014 Tim Duncan 16.3
1981 Cedric Maxwell 16.1
1973 Earl Monroe 16.1
1952 Jim Pollard 16.1
2013 Dwyane Wade 15.9
1951 Bob Davies 15.9
1999 David Robinson 15.6
1975 Jamaal Wilkes 15.0
2003 Tony Parker 14.7
1953 Jim Pollard 14.3
1994 Vernon Maxwell 13.8
1955 Red Kerr 13.8
1950 Vern Mikkelsen 13.0
1954 Jim Pollard 12.3




Finals:

2002 Kobe Bryant 26.8
2001 Kobe bryant 24.6
1958 Bob Pettit 24.0 ( Cliff Hagan 25.3, playoffs and finals leader )
1986 Larry Bird 24.0 ( Mchale 25.8ppg )
1985 James Worthy 23.7
1971 Oscar Robertson 23.5
1963 Tom Heinsohn 23.3 ( Jones 24.6 )
1966 Sam Jones 22.9
1974 Dave Cowens 22.7
1979 Dennis Johnson 22.6 ( Gus Williams 29.0ppg finals, playoffs leader too..wtf? )
2012 Dwyane Wade 22.6
1959 Tie* Sharman/Ramsay 22.5 ( heinsohn 24.2 )
1962 Sam Jones 22.1 ( russell 22.8 )
1983 Andrew Tony 22.0 ( Julius Erving 3rd option in playoffs and finals )
1957 Bill Sharman 21.8 ( Heinsohn 24.0 )
1987 Kareem Abdul Jabbar 21.7
1980 Magic Johnson 21.5
1995 Clyde Drexler 21.5
1989 Isiah Thomas 21.3
1993 Scottie Pippen 21.2
1988 Magic Johnson 21.1
1968 Bailey Howell 21.0
2004 Chauncey Billups 21.0 (Rip playoff and finals leader. robbed )
1992 Scottie Pippen 20.8
1991 Scottie Pippen 20.8
1990 Joe Dumars 20.6
1976 Dave Cowens 20.5
1978 Bob Dandridge 20.4
2008 Ray Allen 20.3
1997 Scottie Pippen 20.0
1972 Jerry West 19.8
2013 Dwyane Wade 19.6
2005 Manu Ginobili 18.7
1969 Sam Jones 18.7
1970 Dick Barnett 18.6
2010 Pau Gasol 18.6
2009 Pau Gasol 18.6
1977 Bill Walton 18.5
1960 Frank Ramsay 18.4 ( Heinsohn 22.4 )
1964 John Havlicek 18.4
2007 Tim Duncan 18.3
1965 John Havlicek 18.2
2011 Jason Terry 18.0
1982 Kareem Abdul Jabbar 18.0
2014 Kawhi Leonard 17.8
1967 Wilt Chamberlain 17.7 ( Hal Greer 26.0ppg. would have been mvp )
1961 Bill Russell 17.6 ( heinsohn 22.0 )
1984 Dennis Johnson 17.6
1951 Bob Davies 17.0
1999 David Robinson 16.6
1973 Willis Reed 16.4
1952 Jim Pollard 16.4
2015 Andre Iguodala 16.3
1998 Scottie Pippen 15.7
1996 Scottie Pippen 15.7
2000 Kobe Bryant 15.6 ( *19.0 minus the 2 point injury game )
1981 Larry Bird 15.3 ( ....................wtf? )
1953 Jim Pollard 14.4
2003 Tony Parker 14.0
2006 Antoine Walker 13.8 ( to my surprise Shaq only averaged 13.7 )
1956 Neil Johnston 13.6 ( Arizin 27.6 )
1950 Jim Pollard 13.6 ( mikan 32.1 )
1994 Vernon Maxwell 13.4
1955 Kerr 12.2 ( schayes 19.0 )
1975 Jamaal Wilkes 11.5
1954 Pollard 10.8 ( Mikan 18.1 )












shaq technically had the most "help" of all time












https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4101/4920970629_7fb8758dbc_b.jpg

[Lebron23]

Just count the votes. Let's see who's leading right now.

[kennethgriffin]

Just count the votes. Let's see who's leading right now.


you count em.. i honestly would but i dont have the time


and you live in a 3rd world country so its not like you have anything better to do

[Lebron23]

you count em.. i honestly would but i dont have the time


and you live in a 3rd world country so its not like you have anything better to do


LOL. LeBron is leading.

[Marchesk]

It would be more interesting to vote on 11-20. Everyone has seen everybody's top 10 like 10 times on here.

[kennethgriffin]

LOL. LeBron is leading.


how do you know for sure

[Moonbeam]

Through rs98762001 (though I didn't count The Immortal since there were only 3 picks, happy to update if he completes a top 10).

1. Michael Jordan: 422 points
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: 377
3. Magic Johnson: 280
4. Bill Russell: 269
5. Wilt Chamberlain: 222
6. Larry Bird: 207
7. Tim Duncan: 198
8. Shaquille O'Neal: 193
9. LeBron James: 115
10. Kobe Bryant: 99
11. Hakeem Olajuwon: 81
12. George Mikan: 6
13. Jerry West: 2
13. Pau Gasol: 2
15. Stephen Curry: 1
15. Robert Horry: 1

[Asukal]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Bill Russell
3. Magic Johnson
4. Larry Bird
5. Tim Duncan
6. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
7. Shaquille O Neal
8. Hakeem Olajuwon
9. Kobe Bryant
10. George Mikan

:rockon:

[TomBrady]

1. Bill Russell
2. Michael Jordan
3. Larry Bird
4. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
5. Magic Johnson
6. Tim Duncan
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. LeBron James
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Oscar Robertson

[raprap]

Through rs98762001 (though I didn't count The Immortal since there were only 3 picks, happy to update if he completes a top 10).

1. Michael Jordan: 422 points
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: 377
3. Magic Johnson: 280
4. Bill Russell: 269
5. Wilt Chamberlain: 222
6. Larry Bird: 207
7. Tim Duncan: 198
8. Shaquille O'Neal: 193
9. LeBron James: 115
10. Kobe Bryant: 99
11. Hakeem Olajuwon: 81
12. George Mikan: 6
13. Jerry West: 2
13. Pau Gasol: 2
15. Stephen Curry: 1
15. Robert Horry: 1
1-10 not bad ISH. Not bad...

[Round Mound]

1-MJ
2-Wilt
3-Kareem
4-Shaq
5-Bird
6-Magic
7-Big O
8-Hakeem
9-Duncan
10-Lebron

[kennethgriffin]

Through rs98762001 (though I didn't count The Immortal since there were only 3 picks, happy to update if he completes a top 10).

1. Michael Jordan: 422 points
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: 377
3. Magic Johnson: 280
4. Bill Russell: 269
5. Wilt Chamberlain: 222
6. Larry Bird: 207
7. Tim Duncan: 198
8. Shaquille O'Neal: 193
9. LeBron James: 115
10. Kobe Bryant: 99
11. Hakeem Olajuwon: 81
12. George Mikan: 6
13. Jerry West: 2
13. Pau Gasol: 2
15. Stephen Curry: 1
15. Robert Horry: 1



well i guess its settled then.. lebrons above kobe

[kennethgriffin]

1-MJ
2-Wilt
3-Kareem
4-Shaq
5-Bird
6-Magic
7-Big O
8-Hakeem
9-Duncan
10-Lebron


i thought you said barkley was a top 10 player all time

[Marchesk]

13. Pau Gasol: 2
15. Stephen Curry: 1
15. Robert Horry: 1

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[toxicxr6]

Through rs98762001 (though I didn't count The Immortal since there were only 3 picks, happy to update if he completes a top 10).

1. Michael Jordan: 422 points
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: 377
3. Magic Johnson: 280
4. Bill Russell: 269
5. Wilt Chamberlain: 222
6. Larry Bird: 207
7. Tim Duncan: 198
8. Shaquille O'Neal: 193
9. LeBron James: 115
10. Kobe Bryant: 99
11. Hakeem Olajuwon: 81
12. George Mikan: 6
13. Jerry West: 2
13. Pau Gasol: 2
15. Stephen Curry: 1
15. Robert Horry: 1

Even with all of Kenneth's tears....
The top 10 is pretty close really

The only changes I would make is Duncan >bird
Wilt> Russell

Given Kenneth did his best effort trying to turn this into a garbage thread.. The list is pretty accurate.. Top 10 anyways

[Round Mound]

i thought you said barkley was a top 10 player all time

Peak wise probably and so was Baylor and David Robinson

[TheImmortal]

Through rs98762001 (though I didn't count The Immortal since there were only 3 picks, happy to update if he completes a top 10).

1. Michael Jordan: 422 points
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: 377
3. Magic Johnson: 280
4. Bill Russell: 269
5. Wilt Chamberlain: 222
6. Larry Bird: 207
7. Tim Duncan: 198
8. Shaquille O'Neal: 193
9. LeBron James: 115
10. Kobe Bryant: 99
11. Hakeem Olajuwon: 81
12. George Mikan: 6
13. Jerry West: 2
13. Pau Gasol: 2
15. Stephen Curry: 1
15. Robert Horry: 1

1. Kobe Bryant - 10 pts
2. Michael Jordan - 9 pts
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 8 pts
4. Wilt Chamberlain - 7 pts
5. Shaquille O'Neal - 6 pts
6. Tim Duncan - 5 pts
7. Larry Bird - 4 pts
8. Magic Johnson - 3 pts
9. Bill Russell - 2 pts
10. Hakeem Olajuwon - 1pt



20. LeBron James 0 pts
................... :coleman:

[kennethgriffin]

Peak wise probably and so was Baylor and David Robinson


ok so your list obviously isnt about peaks and infact overall careers


1-MJ
2-Wilt
3-Kareem
4-Shaq
5-Bird
6-Magic
7-Big O
8-Hakeem
9-Duncan
10-Lebron


why on earth did you put wilt over kareem then

and shaq over magic

and big O over duncan

etc..

[JohnFreeman]

Backfire

[Psileas]

1 - Wilt Chamberlain - 10 points
2 - Magic Johnson - 9 points
3 - Bill Russell - 8 points
4 - Shaquille O'Neal - 7 points
5 - Tim Duncan - 6 points
6 - Larry Bird - 5 points
7 - Lebron James - 4 points
8 - Oscar Robertson - 3 points
9 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 2 points
10 - Michael Jordan/Jerry West - 1 point

[Bankaii]

1 - Wilt Chamberlain - 10 points
2 - Magic Johnson - 9 points
3 - Bill Russell - 8 points
4 - Shaquille O'Neal - 7 points
5 - Tim Duncan - 6 points
6 - Larry Bird - 5 points
7 - Lebron James - 4 points
8 - Oscar Robertson - 3 points
9 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 2 points
10 - Michael Jordan/Jerry West - 1 point
:biggums: What the hell is wrong with you?

[Psileas]

:biggums: What the hell is wrong with you?

Agendas are fun, aren't they? :cheers:
It's the least I could do for all those who give Wilt (or, to a smaller extent Russell) 1 or 2 or even 0 points.

[imnew09]

Asking these v!rgins on ISH about top 10 is like asking them how does pussi looks/tastes like.


Clueless

[3ball]

1. MJ
2. Wilt
3. Magic
4. Bird
5. Kareem
6. Russell
7. Shaq
8. Hakeem
9. Duncan
10. Oscar (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJGFBUPs_4w&t=0m35s)

[Fallen Angel]

1. Lebron James - 10 pts
2. Hakeem Olajuwon - 9 pts
3. Tim Duncan - 8 pts
4. Bill Russell - 7 pts
5. Larry Bird - 6 pts
6. Shaquille O'Neal - 5 pts
7. Wilt Chamberlain - 4 pts
8. Magic Johnson - 3 pts
9. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 2 pts
10. Michael Jordan - 1 pts
pretty sure this did OP in on the first page, there was no coming back

[3ball]

honestly, after seeing Mr. Jabbar's gif with Gus Hemmingway in the other thread (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=396854), I want to replace Oscar on my list with Kobe (which is what I really believe anyway)

[Bernie Nips]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Larry Bird
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Bill Russell
5. Magic Johnson
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Tim Duncan
9. Kobe Bryant
10. LeBron James

[pauk]

Dunno what criteria we are going after so, pick one.....

ACCOLADES:

1 - Bill Russell - 10 points

*GAP*

2 - Michael Jordan - 9 points
3 - Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 8 points
4 - Magic Johnson - 7 points
5 - Tim Duncan - 6 points
6 - Shaquille O'Neal - 5 points
7 - LeBron James - 4 points
8 - Larry Bird - 3 points
9 - Wilt Chamberlain - 2 points
10 - Kobe Bryant - 1 point

TALENT:

1 - Wilt Chamberlain - 10 points
2 - Oscar Robertson - 9 points
3 - Michael Jordan - 8 points
4 - LeBron James - 7 points
5 - Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 6 points
6 - Shaquille O'Neal - 5 points
7 - Hakeem Olajuwon - 4 points
8 - Elgin Baylor - 3 points
9 - Larry Bird - 2 points
10 - David Robinson - 1 point
(Have not seen prime Wilt, Oscar or Elgin play enough, ill just act like the stories, stats, myths & legends are as they are, relative to any era, i mean if Wilt/Oscar were really as good as their stats say, if they could produce like that today then they truly possessed the biggest talents/basketball abilities this planet has ever seen, gonna act like that is the case here for now)

BOTH:

1 - Michael Jordan - 10 points
2 - Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 9 points
3 - Wilt Chamberlain - 8 points
4 - Magic Johnson - 7 points
5 - Shaquille O'Neal - 6 points
6 - LeBron James - 5 points
7 - Larry Bird - 4 points
8 - Tim Duncan - 3 points
9 - Hakeem Olajuwon - 2 points
10 - Bill Russell - 1 point

[tpols]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Bill Russell
3. Magic Johnson
4. Tim Duncan
5. Larry Bird
6. KAJ
7. Shaq
8. Wilt
9. Kobe
10. Hakeem

[dunksby]

1- Kareem
2- Jordan
3- Russell
4- Wilt
5- Shaq
6- Bird
7- Duncan
8- Magic
9- Hakeem
10- Kobe

[Harison]

1. MJ
2. Russell
3. Kareem
4. Wilt
5. Bird
6. Magic
7. Hakeem
8. Shaq
9. Duncan
10. Lebron

[RepMe]

blame yourselves


ISH is just full of idiots that don't care about finding out the truth. they all just push agendas


atleast i have legit case for kobes career being top 3-4
You really don't.

[RepMe]

50 point games by kobe in 2007 = 10


50 point games by lebron in 2004








+2005







+2006








+2007









+2008










+2009











+2010









+2011











+2012











+2013










+2014










+2015











+2016










= 10



let it sink in
Melt. Down. :roll:

[BlazerRed]

Dunno what criteria we are going after so, pick one.....

ACCOLADES:

1 - Bill Russell - 10 points

*GAP*

2 - Michael Jordan - 9 points
3 - Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 8 points
4 - Magic Johnson - 7 points
5 - Tim Duncan - 6 points
6 - Shaquille O'Neal - 5 points
7 - LeBron James - 4 points
8 - Larry Bird - 3 points
9 - Wilt Chamberlain - 2 points
10 - Kobe Bryant - 1 point



So 2/7 > 5/7 for Kobe, gotcha. Pretty sure rings are the biggest thing to have in terms of accolades. Lebaldo falls rather short. Guess team accolades aren't all that important to a dick slurper like you though hey Pauk?

[kennethgriffin]

You really don't.


out of the top 10-11 players of all time ( jordan, kareem, magic, russell, kobe, wilt, shaq, duncan, hakeem, bird, lebron )

kobe is:

3rd in championships
4th in career scoring average
3rd in playoff scoring average
3rd in peak scoring average
2nd in career points
3rd in playoff points
3rd in finals mvps
1st in all nba teams
1st in all nba 1st teams
2nd in all defensive teams
1st in all defensive 1st teams
2nd in allstar selections
1st in consecutive allstar selections
1st in allstar starts
1st in allstar mvps
1st in allstar points
1st in game winners
1st in 50+ win teams beatin
2nd in most points ever scored in a game
2nd in consecutive 50 point games
3rd in consecutive 40 point games
2nd in total 30 point games
3rd in total 40 point games
3rd in total 50 point games
2nd in total 60 point games
2nd in total 70 point games
tied for 1st in 80 point games
1st in three pointers ever scored in a game
3rd in games played
2nd in minutes played
4th in field goals made
1st in three pointers made
1st in free throws made
3rd in assists
3rd in steals
5th in hall of fame probability score ( basketball-reference.com )
1st all time in championships won without their main sidekick



only thing he doesn't dominate in is most valuable player awards which hes tied with shaq and hakeem ... 2 guys who allot of people have high in their list



kobe is persecuted for no apparent reason


all signs point to him being top 3-5

[stalkerforlife]

out of the top 10-11 players of all time ( jordan, kareem, magic, russell, kobe, wilt, shaq, duncan, hakeem, bird, lebron )

kobe is:

3rd in championships
4th in career scoring average
3rd in playoff scoring average
3rd in peak scoring average
2nd in career points
3rd in playoff points
3rd in finals mvps
1st in all nba teams
1st in all nba 1st teams
2nd in all defensive teams
1st in all defensive 1st teams
2nd in allstar selections
1st in consecutive allstar selections
1st in allstar starts
1st in allstar mvps
1st in allstar points
1st in game winners
1st in 50+ win teams beatin
2nd in most points ever scored in a game
2nd in consecutive 50 point games
3rd in consecutive 40 point games
2nd in total 30 point games
3rd in total 40 point games
3rd in total 50 point games
2nd in total 60 point games
2nd in total 70 point games
tied for 1st in 80 point games
1st in three pointers ever scored in a game
3rd in games played
2nd in minutes played
4th in field goals made
1st in three pointers made
1st in free throws made
3rd in assists
3rd in steals
5th in hall of fame probability score ( basketball-reference.com )
1st all time in championships won without their main sidekick



only thing he doesn't dominate in is most valuable player awards which hes tied with shaq and hakeem ... 2 guys who allot of people have high in their list



kobe is persecuted for no apparent reason


all signs point to him being top 3-5


Ether.

/thread

:eek:

[ShawkFactory]

out of the top 10-11 players of all time ( jordan, kareem, magic, russell, kobe, wilt, shaq, duncan, hakeem, bird, lebron )

kobe is:

3rd in championships
4th in career scoring average
3rd in playoff scoring average
3rd in peak scoring average
2nd in career points
3rd in playoff points
3rd in finals mvps
1st in all nba teams
1st in all nba 1st teams
2nd in all defensive teams
1st in all defensive 1st teams
2nd in allstar selections
1st in consecutive allstar selections
1st in allstar starts
1st in allstar mvps
1st in allstar points
1st in game winners
1st in 50+ win teams beatin
2nd in most points ever scored in a game
2nd in consecutive 50 point games
3rd in consecutive 40 point games
2nd in total 30 point games
3rd in total 40 point games
3rd in total 50 point games
2nd in total 60 point games
2nd in total 70 point games
tied for 1st in 80 point games
1st in three pointers ever scored in a game
3rd in games played
2nd in minutes played
4th in field goals made
1st in three pointers made
1st in free throws made
3rd in assists
3rd in steals
5th in hall of fame probability score ( basketball-reference.com )
1st all time in championships won without their main sidekick



only thing he doesn't dominate in is most valuable player awards which hes tied with shaq and hakeem ... 2 guys who allot of people have high in their list



kobe is persecuted for no apparent reason


all signs point to him being top 3-5

Not really

[ApexPredator]

1. MJ
2. Kareem
3. Russell
4. Magic
5. Oscar
6. Bird
7. Wilt
8. Shaq
9. Duncan
10. Hakeem

[ApexPredator]

out of the top 10-11 players of all time ( jordan, kareem, magic, russell, kobe, wilt, shaq, duncan, hakeem, bird, lebron )

kobe is:

3rd in championships
4th in career scoring average
3rd in playoff scoring average
3rd in peak scoring average
2nd in career points
3rd in playoff points
3rd in finals mvps
1st in all nba teams
1st in all nba 1st teams
2nd in all defensive teams
1st in all defensive 1st teams
2nd in allstar selections
1st in consecutive allstar selections
1st in allstar starts
1st in allstar mvps
1st in allstar points
1st in game winners
1st in 50+ win teams beatin
2nd in most points ever scored in a game
2nd in consecutive 50 point games
3rd in consecutive 40 point games
2nd in total 30 point games
3rd in total 40 point games
3rd in total 50 point games
2nd in total 60 point games
2nd in total 70 point games
tied for 1st in 80 point games
1st in three pointers ever scored in a game
3rd in games played
2nd in minutes played
4th in field goals made
1st in three pointers made
1st in free throws made
3rd in assists
3rd in steals
5th in hall of fame probability score ( basketball-reference.com )
1st all time in championships won without their main sidekick



only thing he doesn't dominate in is most valuable player awards which hes tied with shaq and hakeem ... 2 guys who allot of people have high in their list



kobe is persecuted for no apparent reason


all signs point to him being top 3-5

Anymore made up categories that you can use in Kobe's favor?

[kennethgriffin]

Anymore made up categories that you can use in Kobe's favor?


3rd in championships
4th in career scoring average
3rd in playoff scoring average
3rd in peak scoring average
2nd in career points
3rd in playoff points
3rd in finals mvps
1st in all nba teams
1st in all nba 1st teams
2nd in all defensive teams
1st in all defensive 1st teams
2nd in allstar selections
1st in consecutive allstar selections
1st in allstar starts
1st in allstar mvps
1st in allstar points
1st in game winners
1st in 50+ win teams beatin
2nd in most points ever scored in a game
2nd in consecutive 50 point games
3rd in consecutive 40 point games
2nd in total 30 point games
3rd in total 40 point games
3rd in total 50 point games
2nd in total 60 point games
2nd in total 70 point games
tied for 1st in 80 point games
1st in three pointers ever scored in a game
3rd in games played
2nd in minutes played
4th in field goals made
1st in three pointers made
1st in free throws made
3rd in assists
3rd in steals
5th in hall of fame probability score ( basketball-reference.com )
1st all time in championships won without their main sidekick



these are the only ones i'd say are extra curricular





like i said. all signs point to top 5. you can hate it all you want. but after time passes and the hate dies down. fans will look back at kobes career as one of the most accomplished... especially after 20 years of "player voted mvps"

then fans will say "well how many mvps are there?.. **** that award" lol

[Alan Ogg]

1. MJ
2. Kareem
3. Magic
4. Russell
5. Wilt
6. Duncan
7. LeBron
8. Bird
9. Shaq
10. Hakeem

[aj1987]

3rd in championships
4th in career scoring average
3rd in playoff scoring average
3rd in peak scoring average
2nd in career points
:biggums: :biggums:

I didn't even go through the rest of your BS, but .... :wtf:

Pip, MJ, Russell, Hondo, Jones, KAJ, Cousy, Horry, Sam Jones, etc. all have more rings off the top of my head.

Kobe is not even top 10 in career scoring average in both RS and PO's.

Peak scoring average? :roll: :roll:

You do know that Malone has more points than Kobe, right? And that there's literally 0% chance of Kobe passing him?

Someone feel free to go through the rest of this BS.

[kennethgriffin]

:biggums: :biggums:

I didn't even go through the rest of your BS, but .... :wtf:

Pip, MJ, Russell, Hondo, Jones, KAJ, Cousy, Horry, Sam Jones, etc. all have more rings off the top of my head.

Kobe is not even top 10 in career scoring average in both RS and PO's.

Peak scoring average? :roll: :roll:

You do know that Malone has more points than Kobe, right? And that there's literally 0% chance of Kobe passing him?

Someone feel free to go through the rest of this BS.


i said



out of the top 10-11 players of all time ( jordan, kareem, magic, russell, kobe, wilt, shaq, duncan, hakeem, bird, lebron )


obviously kobe isnt battling horry in ring counts to put himself over lebron

you f*cking nitwit



and yes.. only jordan and wilt had a higher peak in scoring out of those guys. what are you laughing at?

[kennethgriffin]

and why the hell would kobe have to pass malone in points to have something to hold over a larry bird or a tim duncan

you blind moron

:oldlol:

[aj1987]

i said
Then why is Kobe in there? I'm pretty sure that you put in 11, just so you could add Kobe. That's just arbitrary AF. Your whole list is.


and yes.. only jordan and wilt had a higher peak in scoring out of those guys. what are you laughing at?
Peak scoring? I'd take KAJ, MJ, and Wilt over Kobe as scorers any day. Heck, Bird put up 30 PPG on 61% TS. Volume scoring, given n number of shots to chuck, almost everyone.

[pastis]

is the list still being updated regarding total points of each player? what about the 10-20 rankings?

[Bankaii]

Agendas are fun, aren't they? :cheers:
It's the least I could do for all those who give Wilt (or, to a smaller extent Russell) 1 or 2 or even 0 points.
Oh ok.:cheers:

I can't tell when people are trolling or being serious on here anymore

[Magic 32]

1. MJ
2. Russell
3. Wilt
4. Kareem
5. Magic
6. Bird

7. Kobe
8. Duncan
9. Shaq
10 Hakeem

[kennethgriffin]

Then why is Kobe in there? I'm pretty sure that you put in 11, just so you could add Kobe. That's just arbitrary AF. Your whole list is.


Peak scoring? I'd take KAJ, MJ, and Wilt over Kobe as scorers any day. Heck, Bird put up 30 PPG on 61% TS. Volume scoring, given n number of shots to chuck, almost everyone.


its out of the guys who are debated for top 10 consideration...


those are the 11 names you hear 99% of the time


and of those 11 names kobe is top 1,2,3 in nearly every single catigory imaginable

and thus my simple yet intelligent reasoning behind kobe being a top 3-5 player at the absolute very least

[Yoshi]

1. MJ (10 points)

[Yoshi]

these are the only ones i'd say are extra curricular


So then you think Kobe deserves his all-star nod this year and in some recent years?

[LAKingKobe]

10 Kobe
9 James
8 Kareem
7 Johnson
6 Jordan
5 Bird
4 O'Neal
3 Chamberlain
2 Duncan
1 Russell

[90sgoat]

1. MJ
2. Kareem
3. Bird
4. Magic
5. Russel
6. Wilt
7. Shaq
8. Duncan
9. Hakeem
10. Kobe

[ShawkFactory]

1. MJ
2. Russell
3. Wilt
4. Kareem
5. Magic
6. Bird

7. Kobe
8. Duncan
9. Shaq
10 Hakeem
Mine is similar. I'd move Russell to #4, swap Magic/Bird and swap Duncan/Kobe.

[LAZERUSS]

1 - Wilt Chamberlain - 10 points
2 - Magic Johnson - 9 points
3 - Bill Russell - 8 points
4 - Shaquille O'Neal - 7 points
5 - Tim Duncan - 6 points
6 - Larry Bird - 5 points
7 - Lebron James - 4 points
8 - Oscar Robertson - 3 points
9 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 2 points
10 - Michael Jordan/Jerry West - 1 point

I was thinking about doing the same thing. Maybe even go Wilt, and then a bunch of role players from 2-9.

But ultimately, this "poll" means nothing anyway.

[kennethgriffin]

So then you think Kobe deserves his all-star nod this year and in some recent years?


kobe has 18 allstar starts.... the most of all time

the next highest is jordan at 13


so take away his last 3 and hes still #1 all time

take away 1998 and hes still #1 all time

theres absolutely no possible logical way in anyones insane mind that kobe isnt the greatest and most deserving allstar of all time regardless of any asterisks associated with his selections

hes still the greatest.. period... nuff said


so it is A LEGITIMATE RECORD/ACHIEVEMENT

[Helix]

1.Wilt
2.Jordan
3.Jabbar
4.Bird
5.Magic
6.Russell
7.Oscar
8.Duncan
9.Shaq
10.Elgin

[stalkerforlife]

Damn...Kobe with a big lead. Up on Bran by 160 points. :oldlol:

[jstern]

1. MJ
2. Wilt
3. Kareem
4. Bird
5. Shaq
6. Tim
7. Magic
8. Hakeem
9. Lebron
10. Bill Russell

[Round Mound]

ok so your list obviously isnt about peaks and infact overall careers



why on earth did you put wilt over kareem then

and shaq over magic

and big O over duncan

etc..

Well most people put careers over impact and peaks so i went along with the crowd. Shaq was doubled and tripled probably more than any other player, he had more impact than Magic who had Kareem and Worthy as more onstoppable scorers. Big 0 was the most fundamentally sound player ever and the king of triple doubles so i have to put him above Duncan.

[kennethgriffin]

1 - Michael Jordan - 10 points
2 - Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 9 points
3 - Bill Russell - 8 points
4 - Magic Johnson - 7 points
5 - Shaquille O'Neal - 6 points
6 - Tim Duncan - 4 points
7 - Lebron James - 3 points
8 - Wilt Chamberlain - 2 points
9 - Larry Bird - 2 points
10 - Kobe Bryant - 1 point



1 - Michael Jordan - 10 points
2 - Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 9 points
3 - Bill Russell - 8 points
4 - Magic Johnson - 7 points
5 - Shaquille O'Neal - 6 points
6 - Tim Duncan - 4 points
7 - Lebron James - 3 points
8 - Wilt Chamberlain - 2 points
9 - Larry Bird - 2 points
10 - Hakeem Olajuwon - 1 point





lebron23 exposed as ISHgoat


dudes so f*cking stupid he copy and pastes his own list and thinks nobody will notice if he switches kobe for hakeem

he even misses his own mistake twice ( giving 2 points to both #8 and #9 and giving the wrong number of points to lebron and tim )

[Lebron23]

lebron23 exposed as ISHgoat


dudes so f*cking stupid he copy and pastes his own list and thinks nobody will notice if he switches kobe for hakeem

he even misses his own mistake twice ( giving 2 points to both #8 and #9 and giving the wrong number of points to lebron and tim )


ISHGoat is from toronto, And I think he looks like Jeremy Lin. Maybe you 2 can meet up.

[kennethgriffin]

ISHGoat is from toronto, And I think he looks like Jeremy Lin. Maybe you 2 can meet up.


sometimes i wonder if this site is actually just like 5-6 people with 40 different alts..


i know i've never had one. i barely care to use this account as it is

[Moonbeam]

Updated through jstern's vote. I counted The Immortal's vote and pauk's combined list.

1. Michael Jordan 595
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 519
3. Magic Johnson 398
4. Bill Russell 381
5. Wilt Chamberlain 341
6. Larry Bird 320
7. Shaquille O'Neal 273
8. Tim Duncan 270
9. LeBron James 145
10. Kobe Bryant 135
11. Hakeem Olajuwon 111
12. Oscar Robertson 18
13. George Mikan 7
14. Jerry West 2
14. Pau Gasol 2
16. Stephen Curry 1
16. Robert Horry 1
16. Elgin Baylor 1

[Lebron23]

sometimes i wonder if this site is actually just like 5-6 people with 40 different alts..


i know i've never had one. i barely care to use this account as it is


Just look at Warriors fan and Fudge. My goodfriend RTC, and RG also have plenty of alternate accounts in this forum.

And here's ISHGOAt. He's really from Toronto.


http://s10.postimg.org/pdtt589h5/image.jpg
I like my progress. That's 22 days apart.


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=164725&page=567

[colts19]

1 Wilt
2 Bird
3 Kareem
4 Russell
5 Big O
6 Magic
7 Kobe
8 Walton
9 MJ
10 Mikan