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Dr Seuss
01-29-2016, 07:43 PM
Free agent in 2017. may not be healthy until march or later. so potentially a 1 season rental for whoever goes after him. ala dwight with the lakers

buddha
01-29-2016, 07:50 PM
what kind of stupid question is this? isn't it obvious?

Dr Seuss
01-29-2016, 07:55 PM
what kind of stupid question is this? isn't it obvious?

:confusedshrug:

enlighten me

SwishSquared
01-29-2016, 08:03 PM
They would ideally want Jae Crowder, Gallo, Avery Bradley, and Barton imo. Probably at most get 3 of those guys, though. However it'd totally remake the roster and would make them so much deeper.

Fire Colangelo
01-29-2016, 08:04 PM
Anybody better than their starting PF currently and a decent SF.

Horford + Bazemore for Blake?
Melo?
Hayward or Favors?
Paul George?

Idk lol just throwing names out there.

Dr Seuss
01-29-2016, 08:08 PM
Anybody better than their starting PF currently and a decent SF.

Horford + Bazemore for Blake?
Melo?
Hayward or Favors?
Paul George?

Idk lol just throwing names out there.

Horford + Bazemore - thats a good gain too. but ATL wouldnt have a starting C

no way IND does that trade straight up. but a zinger/griffin FC might be enticing to the knicks

Id entertain hayward for BG if i were the clippers. if i were utah, not sure

dhsilv
01-29-2016, 08:51 PM
Having the right to give him the extra year on the contract talk makes retaining him more likely. I think his value is pretty solid.

Graviton
01-29-2016, 08:58 PM
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Everybody wins.

Fallen Angel
01-29-2016, 09:22 PM
Free agent in 2017. may not be healthy until march or later. so potentially a 1 season rental for whoever goes after him. ala dwight with the lakers
Don't forget he has an ETO option where he can choose to stay another season with the team he's on. Seems that skipped over you.

Fallen Angel
01-29-2016, 09:51 PM
LAC sends: Blake Griffin
IND sends: Paul George

This potential swap isn't dead as both players haven't necessarily moved the needle in their trade value. In fact, the Clippers need wing players badly in the tough West, and with PG's ability to play the SF and PF position he gives the Clippers more flexibility in lineups against Golden State and San Antonio. Indiana on the other hand could see better production out of Monta Ellis now that the ball will end up in his hands more often than before. The Pacers would finally have stability in their lineup as Blake Griffin is a true PF and they could stop these wacky strategies with experimenting with George and Miles at the PF spot. With the arrival of Miles Turner, he could get even easier looks offensively in the half court playing with really good passers such as Ellis and Griffin.

imnew09
01-29-2016, 10:29 PM
Roy plus Swaggy P + williams

BlakFrankWhite
01-30-2016, 12:00 AM
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Everybody wins.

Paul
Westbrook
Lance
Ibaka
DAJ

WOW

TommyGriffin
01-30-2016, 12:12 AM
Melo/Afflalo for Blake/Crawford or Lance makes sense for both teams.

Clippers get a great wing scorer and Knicks get to build around Blake and Porzingis.

JohnFreeman
01-30-2016, 12:17 AM
CP3 will not be a clipper for much longer

you heard it here first

guy
01-30-2016, 12:23 AM
Unless they're getting Lebron, Durant, Steph, or AD, why in the world would the Clippers trade him?

stalkerforlife
01-30-2016, 12:34 AM
BG for Cousins.

Fallen Angel
01-30-2016, 02:02 PM
Unless they're getting Lebron, Durant, Steph, or AD, why in the world would the Clippers trade him?
Because they're depth sucks and their window is closing faster and faster.

The purpose of the game is to win a championship, not stock up on superstar players.

guy
01-30-2016, 02:20 PM
Because they're depth sucks and their window is closing faster and faster.

The purpose of the game is to win a championship, not stock up on superstar players.

They're not winning shit by trading Blake for a few players that aren't as good as him. The only way to actually get better without Blake is by trading him for one of the players I mentioned. And that's obviously unlikely. They probably won't win anything right now with Blake either. Warriors and Spurs are just too good. The best thing they could do is just stand pat and hopefully get lucky or just widen their window by trading CP3 for Kyrie or whoever. You don't just trade a top 10 player still in his 20s.

kshutts1
01-30-2016, 02:24 PM
The trade I like the most, and that I actually believe could make the Clippers serious contenders this year and next, is Crowder plus Clippers choice of Sully or Olylyk or Amir Johnson plus Boston's two best picks (Brooklyn and whatever?).

It gives Clippers a legit all-star caliber SF (though he won't make it)... but someone that can defend and rebound and shoot 3s at a high level, while also giving them an NBA caliber starting PF. I think it rounds out the roster well, then they get two good first round picks to boot.

Fallen Angel
01-30-2016, 02:25 PM
Some random ones I saw:

Blake Griffin for Nic Batum, Spencer Hawes, Jeremy Lin, and 2 Top-3 Protected First Rounders

Chris Paul | Jeremy Lin
J.J. Reddick | Jamal Crawford
Nic Batum
Spender Hawes | Paul Pierce
DeAndre Jordan

Blake Griffin for Ersan Ilyasova, Marcus Morris, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, and Stanley Johnson

Chris Paul | Jamal Crawford
J.J. Reddick | Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Paul Pierce | Stanley Johnson
Marcus Morris | Ersan Ilyasova
DeAndre Jordan

Blake Griffin for Channing Frye, Victor Oladipo, Aaron Gordon, and Evan Fournier

Chris Paul | Jamal Crawford
J.J. Reddick | Victor Oladipo
Evan Fournier | Paul Pierce
Aaron Gordon | Channing Frye
DeAndre Jordan

Blake Griffin for Patrick Patterson, Luis Scola, Terrence Ross, Bismack Biyombo, and 2 Top-14 Protected First Round Picks

Chris Paul
J.J. Reddick | Jamal Crawford
Terrence Ross | Paul Pierce
Patrick Patterson | Luis Scola
DeAndre Jordan | Bismack Biyombo

MellowYellow
01-30-2016, 02:25 PM
They're not winning shit by trading Blake for a few players that aren't as good as him. The only way to actually get better without Blake is by trading him for one of the players I mentioned. And that's obviously unlikely. They probably won't win anything right now with Blake either. Warriors and Spurs are just too good. The best thing they could do is just stand pat and hopefully get lucky or just widen their window by trading CP3 for Kyrie or whoever. You don't just trade a top 10 player still in his 20s.
So wrong there may not be 10 better players but there are at least 10 - 15 that are close and better fits for the clippers. Blake is obviously not a winning player never been to conference finals and to be frank they won't ever make it past 2nd round unless they make some changes

guy
01-30-2016, 02:36 PM
So wrong there may not be 10 better players but there are at least 10 - 15 that are close and better fits for the clippers. Blake is obviously not a winning player never been to conference finals and to be frank they won't ever make it past 2nd round unless they make some changes

Who? And who that the Clippers can realistically get? A trade for Kawhi or PG wouldn't happen even if the Clippers wanted it.

They won't make it past the 2nd round cause the Warriors and Spurs are historically great teams and the Thunder are better then the Clippers as well. Getting to the 2nd round basically every season is hardly some loser. Bottom line is there is no realistic trade out there that would get them past the 2nd round, so it doesn't make sense to trade a franchise player. Trade Blake for a bunch of role players or Carmelo, and you're a CP3 injury/sharp decline away from being a lottery team.

kshutts1
01-30-2016, 04:13 PM
The trade I like the most, and that I actually believe could make the Clippers serious contenders this year and next, is Crowder plus Clippers choice of Sully or Olylyk or Amir Johnson plus Boston's two best picks (Brooklyn and whatever?).

It gives Clippers a legit all-star caliber SF (though he won't make it)... but someone that can defend and rebound and shoot 3s at a high level, while also giving them an NBA caliber starting PF. I think it rounds out the roster well, then they get two good first round picks to boot.
To be "that guy" and quote my own post...

Clippers could also re-route those picks from Brooklyn to another team in return for a better PF, and/or a backup big.

On another note, I didn't check the salaries of my trade.

kshutts1
01-30-2016, 04:21 PM
Just played around real quick...

Boston gets: Blake Griffin

Chicago gets: Jerebko, first round from Dallas or Minn (whichever is higher)

Clippers get: Brooklyn's first, Sully, Crowder, Taj

SwishSquared
01-30-2016, 04:30 PM
To be "that guy" and quote my own post...

Clippers could also re-route those picks from Brooklyn to another team in return for a better PF, and/or a backup big.

On another note, I didn't check the salaries of my trade.They would definitely re-route any picks because Doc would rather have a mid-career vet type instead of the unknowns of a young guy. He doesn't want to rebuild.

If they commit to playing 4 smalls around DJ (which you basically should if you trade BG and aren't receiving AD), they'd need Boston to send Bradley + Crowder. Then they'd trade those included picks for players. My pet favorite is to target Gallinari +Barton (not to spam every BG trade thread with this...). Even if they just get Gallo + something for the Brooklyn pick, they could trade another first (assuming Boston would send its own pick) for another wing that can hit 3s.

outbreak
01-30-2016, 04:34 PM
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Everybody wins.

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kshutts1
01-30-2016, 04:41 PM
They would definitely re-route any picks because Doc would rather have a mid-career vet type instead of the unknowns of a young guy. He doesn't want to rebuild.

If they commit to playing 4 smalls around DJ (which you basically should if you trade BG and aren't receiving AD), they'd need Boston to send Bradley + Crowder. Then they'd trade those included picks for players. My pet favorite is to target Gallinari +Barton (not to spam every BG trade thread with this...). Even if they just get Gallo + something for the Brooklyn pick, they could trade another first (assuming Boston would send its own pick) for another wing that can hit 3s.
I love Bradley and Crowder going to LA, because I love that small-ball lineup.

But the Clips would still need some backup bigs; I guess they could reroute both picks to get someone, like Taj in my deal or something like that. But whether they play just DJ in a small lineup or not, they need more competent big men.

SwishSquared
01-30-2016, 05:30 PM
I love Bradley and Crowder going to LA, because I love that small-ball lineup.

But the Clips would still need some backup bigs; I guess they could reroute both picks to get someone, like Taj in my deal or something like that. But whether they play just DJ in a small lineup or not, they need more competent big men.The Nuggets could throw somebody like Darrell Arthur in.

One other scenario would be trading Crawford for PJ Tucker and playing him as a backup 4. Or they could do Crawford + CJ Wilcox for Markieff and use him as a bench lineup killer (if he returns to his old self). I think Morris can be rejuvenated, but he really needs to get out of Phoenix.