Government declares 22 Clinton e-mails top secret

[Jameerthefear]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CLINTON_EMAILS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-01-29-14-48-31

[Nick Young]

Hillary Cuckton

[Cactus-Sack]

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/delay-on-clinton-e-mail-scandal-fbi-ready-to-indict/


Tom "the hammer" Delay says the FBI are ready to indict

[Nick Young]

:banana: :banana: :banana:

Cuckton is down and out!

Larry David vs Gordan Gecko for the presidency!


The time is ripe for the Based Webb to rise.

#WebbNation2016

[poido123]

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=tom+delay&source=newssearch&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjl5MbQzNDKAhVLc44KHfd8DHYQqQIIMigAMAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediaite.com%2Funcategorized% 2Ffmr-house-majority-leader-tom-delay-fbi-ready-to-indict-clinton%2F&usg=AFQjCNE6Axb7rYT8IoHM2lv8UdqtihqODg

Tom "the hammer" Delay says the FBI are ready to indict



:banana: :banana:

[DonDadda59]

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/delay-on-clinton-e-mail-scandal-fbi-ready-to-indict/


Tom "the hammer" Delay says the FBI are ready to indict

I'll paypal $1,000 to the first man who can explain to me how the FBI can indict someone. Bonus $250 if you can provide me with one example of this happening Historically.

[Nick Young]

FBI can't. It is up to Loretta Lynch to indict based on the evidence the FBI presents to her.



A corrupt neo-nazi falls.


A Based Webb Rises
:rockon:

[DonDadda59]

FBI can't.

Tom Delay, as always, holds this L. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_IXzU-lnLU)

[Cactus-Sack]

DimDonna on suicide watch

[Draz]

Them nudes must of been real good fam

[NumberSix]

Hillary dindu nuffin

[Nick Young]

Them nudes must of been real good fam
Better than the Merkel nudes (https://theslnaturist.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/dbt1gdp.jpg) (warning: she's disgusting)

[Nick Young]

Will Hilldawg get off scott-free again? How are CNN and MSNBC reporting this story? Why isn't this a bigger deal? Hilldawg's got to go on trial for this shit.

[DonDadda59]

Will Hilldawg get off scott-free again?

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/10-23-2015/-iSBpi.gif


How are CNN and MSNBC reporting this story?

They're certainly not telling the simpletons that the FBI is getting ready to do something they can't possibly do. :roll:

It's called 'Journalism'... (http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/29/politics/state-department-to-release-clinton-emails/index.html)

...Look it up. (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/state-department-declares-hillary-clinton-emails-top-secret)


Why isn't this a bigger deal?

From the CNN article:


State Department spokesman John Kirby said the documents, totaling 37 pages, were not marked classified at the time they were sent, but are being upgraded at the request of the Intelligence Community because they contain sensitive information.

...

"All I can tell you definitively is it wasn't marked classified at the time it was sent," Kirby said.

...

Kirby also said 18 emails, comprised of eight email chains between Clinton and President Barack Obama, are being "withheld in full" to "protect the President's ability to receive unvarnished advice and counsel." But, Kirby said, they "have not been determined to be classified" and said they will "ultimately be released in accordance with the Presidential records act."

H-Pappa's been clamoring for them to release the documents publicly. But they were deemed classified long after the fact. Apparently one of the super secret documents was a NY Times article.


Hilldawg's got to go on trial for this shit.

She's gonna be the next President. DEAL. WITH. IT. (https://youtu.be/goE0zHYx2r4?t=15s)

[Nick Young]

The fact that she had her own private server is enough to get her in big trouble.

She is an immoral POS and has been caught out. Any one else would get shitcanned because of this, and likely court marshalled.

This kind of corrupt nespotic shit is exactly what the American people don't want.

Save us Based Webb.

[BoutPractice]

I don't want to see this current crop of Republicans get anywhere near the White House but this is a big deal.

That issue + corruption at the Clinton Foundation (October surprise waiting to happen) could sink her candidacy, and it would be entirely justified.

If Sanders wins Iowa and New Hampshire the Democrats need to start getting behind him instead of using Republican style attacks to prop up Hillary.

If Clinton survives the early states and Sanders fades, Biden and Warren (I like Webb too, there's some integrity to the guy but he's got zero chance) absolutely need to prepare for a run just in case.

Otherwise better invest in Mexican construction companies...

[dunksby]

can't trust a female with any secrets

not surprised
jay you Mfer :roll: :roll:

[Dresta]

Liberals have been excusing the crimes of the Clintons for decades just because they're on "their side" when it comes to abortion, "woman's rights," now gay marriage, soon transexual rights, and other irrelevant bs.

Was that way in the 90s, seems that way still today; hopefully she doesn't get away with it like her slime-ball of a husband.

[BoutPractice]

I think though most Democrats know by now that Clinton most definitely is not on their side when it comes to one of the key questions of politics: to whose benefit should government and the law work?

She's a natural plutocrat, a Davos politician. She likes to think of herself as a champion of the underdog, but it's obvious she feels most at ease with the wealthy and the powerful - from Gates to Trump, from British royals to Saudi princes. She desperately wants to be liked by them, to belong to their cosy social club...

The Clintons, Blair, Schroeder and other "Third Way" types used to be seen as heroes who modernized the left and gave it an aura of economic competence.

That story is slowly being rewritten... Biggest clue as to what that era was all about: Bill Clinton, Blair and Schroeder immediately sought to profit privately from their public service. And I'm not just talking about going on the speaking circuit or writing your best selling autobiography... no, Blair went to work for JPMorgan and founded for "Tony Blair Associates", striking energy deals with repressive regimes for money. Schroeder was recruited by Gazprom (to oversee a pipeline project he'd approved as Chancellor) and made global manager at Rothschild... And of course the Clintons have their 100% philanthropic "foundation".

To win elections, they adopted the Reagan-Thatcher narrative, which had become hegemonic by the 90s, as well as their policies (particularly encouraging the Wall Street bubble), and directly contributed to the mess we're in today. To some extent, I sympathize with the uncompromising approach of today's right as well as increasingly today's left. The lesson of the Third Way 90s is that winning elections isn't everything... you need to shape the debate first.

And it's not just about economics either. The Clintons and Blairs represented a certain kind of politics of deception. They made everything about style instead of substance. It was the age of endless PR, talking points, soundbites... Well-dressed, smiling robots. I'm glad we're starting to move away from that - even if pretend authenticity is another form of potentially dangerous deception...

[FillJackson]

I'll paypal $1,000 to the first man who can explain to me how the FBI can indict someone. Bonus $250 if you can provide me with one example of this happening Historically.

I also like the idea of Tom Delay being the guy who would know anything about this case.

[FillJackson]

I'll paypal $1,000 to the first man who can explain to me how the FBI can indict someone. Bonus $250 if you can provide me with one example of this happening Historically.


Also the news today is about the Freedom of Information Act process. It's not the DOJ process. Which are two separate things.

Essentially, the State department is for the first time this year agreeing with other agencies/IGs about this level of classification

There's a few levels of hurdles to jump over before you start talking criminal process.

I'd be curious to know how many folks on these email chains. On some of the previously disputed ones there were dozens of people.

[FillJackson]

That story is slowly being rewritten... Biggest clue as to what that era was all about: Bill Clinton, Blair and Schroeder immediately sought to profit privately from their public service. And I'm not just talking about going on the speaking circuit or writing your best selling autobiography... no, Blair went to work for JPMorgan and founded for "Tony Blair Associates", striking energy deals with repressive regimes for money. Schroeder was recruited by Gazprom (to oversee a pipeline project he'd approved as Chancellor) and made global manager at Rothschild... And of course the Clintons have their 100% philanthropic "foundation".

Ooooh scare quotes! Um, one of these things is not like the other.

[Take Your Lumps]

:banana: :banana: :banana:

Cuckton is down and out!

Larry David vs Gordan Gecko for the presidency!


The time is ripe for the Based Webb to rise.

#WebbNation2016

Lincoln Chafee 2016!!

#GetChaffed

[NumberSix]

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/10-23-2015/-iSBpi.gif



They're certainly not telling the simpletons that the FBI is getting ready to do something they can't possibly do. :roll:

It's called 'Journalism'... (http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/29/politics/state-department-to-release-clinton-emails/index.html)

...Look it up. (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/state-department-declares-hillary-clinton-emails-top-secret)



From the CNN article:


State Department spokesman John Kirby said the documents, totaling 37 pages, were not marked classified at the time they were sent, but are being upgraded at the request of the Intelligence Community because they contain sensitive information.

...

"All I can tell you definitively is it wasn't marked classified at the time it was sent," Kirby said.

...

Kirby also said 18 emails, comprised of eight email chains between Clinton and President Barack Obama, are being "withheld in full" to "protect the President's ability to receive unvarnished advice and counsel." But, Kirby said, they "have not been determined to be classified" and said they will "ultimately be released in accordance with the Presidential records act."

H-Pappa's been clamoring for them to release the documents publicly. But they were deemed classified long after the fact. Apparently one of the super secret documents was a NY Times article.



She's gonna be the next President. DEAL. WITH. IT. (https://youtu.be/goE0zHYx2r4?t=15s)
I guess you missed the part about her telling her aides to removed the "classified" label from documents before sending them to her private server.

It's almost unbelievable the level of stupidity of people making this "it didn't say classified" and actually thinking that's a legit argument. I mean, this is on the level of a cocaine dealer saying "I didn't know this cocaine was illegal. It didn't have 'illegal' written directly on it".

[Nick Young]

I guess you missed the part about her telling her aides to removed the "classified" label from documents before sending them to her private server.

It's almost unbelievable the level of stupidity of people making this "it didn't say classified" and actually thinking that's a legit argument. I mean, this is on the level of a cocaine dealer saying "I didn't know this cocaine was illegal. It didn't have 'illegal' written directly on it".
There really is no coming back for this, except for the fact that she's a Clinton and the US government protects that family more than any other family in the nation. If this happened to any other candidate they would be done and it wouldn't even be a question.

[FillJackson]

I guess you missed the part about her telling her aides to removed the "classified" label from documents before sending them to her private server.

There's a reason that Bombshell landed with a Thud outside Republican Circles: No classified information was transmitted in that case and nothing at all was sent "to her private server." Furthermore, if you understand that email, you see that it was asking to respect the secure and unsecure systems. In that email Clinton more than ask him remove the classified heading. She asked him to turn it into "nonpaper." Nonpaper is a document for stimulating diplomatic discussions. That is, it's talking points that are intended to be circulated, often to foreign diplomats. Her aid knew exactly what she was asking for: If you can't send it because the secure fax is acting up, get me the unclassified stuff now. The State Department spokesman has referred to the document as talking points.


"It is false that Hillary Clinton asked for classified material to be sent over a nonsecure system," said spokesman Brian Fallon in a statement.
And State Department spokesman John Kirby said officials see no indication the document was ever sent to the email account Clinton used, which was hosted on a private server. (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/hillary-clinton-emails-nonsecure-gop-217510#ixzz3wgfarZAu)
“We did do some forensics on that and found no evidence it was actually emailed to her,” Kirby said at a daily news briefing on Friday. “We have found no indication that the document was emailed to former Secretary Clinton. There are other ways it could have found its way to her for her use.”
Kirby also said the fact that the talking points were initially set to be sent via a secure system did not necessarily mean they were classified.

“Just because something, a document, is on a classified system doesn’t necessarily make the document, the content, necessarily classified,” he added.
The article gives an example of non classified info on the secure server, something Tony Blair said publically.


An earlier exchange between Sullivan and Clinton also included discussion of State's secure email system. Sullivan told Clinton in February 2010 that he couldn’t send her a Mideast peace-related statement former British Prime Minister Tony Blair.
Clinton seemed irritated: “It's a public statement! Just email it,” she wrote.
Sullivan responded by explaining it was impossible to send her the information she wanted because it was stuck in State’s classified system: “Trust me, I share your exasperation. But until ops converts it to the unclassified email system, there is no physical way for me to email it. I can't even access it,” Sullivan wrote.

[Nick Young]

so many excuses.:facepalm Just call a spade a spade.

[Take Your Lumps]

Now she's doubling down against universal healthcare :facepalm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyT44Vmb0Io

Unbelievable. No we can't, indeed.

[Nick Young]

Now she's doubling down against universal healthcare :facepalm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyT44Vmb0Io

Unbelievable. No we can't, indeed.
Flip flopping is second nature to her.

She's one of the biggest panderers in American politics that I have ever seen.

[9erempiree]

It's crazy how these libtards will defend Clinton.:facepalm

[FillJackson]

Now she's doubling down against universal healthcare :facepalm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyT44Vmb0Io

Unbelievable. No we can't, indeed.
Actually, she does think Bernie's plan will work. As do.other experts.
http://www.vox.com/2016/1/28/10858644/bernie-sanders-kenneth-thorpe-single-payer

[Nick Young]

Actually, she does think Bernie's plan will work. As do.other experts.
http://www.vox.com/2016/1/28/10858644/bernie-sanders-kenneth-thorpe-single-payer
Then why is she shouting it down at her rally?

You realize that Hilldawg is contradicting her own position right? Surely you aren't too blind to see that.

[FillJackson]

Then why is she shouting it down at her rally?

You realize that Hilldawg is contradicting her own position right? Surely you aren't too blind to see that.

That was a typo. Should have been she doesn't think Bernie's plan would work.

The link is to a single payer advocate who is criticizing Sanders' plan. The critique is that what Sanders has laid out is underfunded by 1.1 trillion dollars a year.

You can find other critiques here (http://www.vox.com/2016/1/17/10784528/bernie-sanders-single-payer-health-care) or here (http://acasignups.net/16/01/20/healthcare-i-have-side-hillary).

[UK2K]

The emails are being withheld because if they were released, we would see how corrupt our government really is.

Bet money those emails are between her and other officials discussing the illegal shit that goes on.

Nobama will protect her though.

[FillJackson]

The emails are being withheld because if they were released, we would see how corrupt our government really is.

Bet money those emails are between her and other officials discussing the illegal shit that goes on.

Nobama will protect her though.

So you've gone from this is a Clinton problem to this is a US government corruption problem. Without a fact needed. :rolleyes:

[UK2K]

So you've gone from this is a Clinton problem to this is a US government corruption problem. Without a fact needed. :rolleyes:

Who do you think those emails were sent to? Family?

Keep denying the obvious, it's all you've got now. Remember, she never sent or received any classified emails, and Obama had no idea she was using a private address, despite communicating back and forth several times with her while she was using it.

Just say it over and over until you believe it's true.

[imnew09]

Trump got them shoook


STUMP THEM HATERS

[FillJackson]

Who do you think those emails were sent to? Family?

Keep denying the obvious, it's all you've got now.

I hope you realize how illogical you are being.

This is your proof

UK: This emails involve government-wide corruption

Fill: You have no evidence of that.

UK: The emails were sent to government officials not her family.

[FillJackson]

FWIW, the Clinton campaign is calling for these 22 emails to be released to the public claiming there is nothing in them that harms national security and they may have some support (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officials-new-top-secret-clinton-emails-innocuous-n500586) because folks who have seen these emails are not walking away from Clinton.

Dianne Feinstein has come out to say that some of the reported information on these emails is wrong two ways.
1. Clinton didn't write any of these emails. She received them.
2. "None of the emails that were sent to Secretary Clinton were marked as including classified information, a requirement when such information is transmitted,"

Two government officials gave anonymous quotes to NBC

The officials say the emails included relatively "innocuous" conversations by State Department officials about the CIA drone program, which technically is considered a "Special Access Program" because officials are briefed on it only if they have a "need to know."

Of course, the President has gone on to give public speeches on drones. At the time the head of the CIA gave a speech in general terms about the drone program. If these emails are just general discussion of the drone program without specific details, I don't think people are going to care.

[NumberSix]

FWIW, the Clinton campaign is calling for these 22 emails to be released to the public claiming there is nothing in them that harms national security and they may have some support (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officials-new-top-secret-clinton-emails-innocuous-n500586) because folks who have seen these emails are not walking away from Clinton.

Dianne Feinstein has come out to say that some of the reported information on these emails is wrong two ways.
1. Clinton didn't write any of these emails. She received them.
2. "None of the emails that were sent to Secretary Clinton were marked as including classified information, a requirement when such information is transmitted,"
How stupid are people? Who cares what they were "marked" as? She was the fcuking sec. of state. Do you think it's remotely sensible to suggest that she had no idea that some of the information she would be receiving would be classified?


Imagine...

FBI: "why did you have a private server?"

Hillary: "well, I didn't know that the Secretary of State receives classified information"

FBI: "are you retarded?"

These rules exist for a reason and breaking these rules is illegal. End of story. Ignorance or stupidity isn't a defense.

[FillJackson]

How stupid are people? Who cares what they were "marked" as? She was the fcuking sec. of state. Do you think it's remotely sensible to suggest that she had no idea that some of the information she would be receiving would be classified?


Imagine...


These rules exist for a reason and breaking these rules is illegal. End of story. Ignorance or stupidity isn't a defense.
Your outrage and your example only make the slighest bit of sense if you are completely ignorant of how the entire State Department processes classified material.

You may want to learn about SIPRNet and about how much open source intelligence the state dept deals with.


For a kicker you may want to learn the laws. And what hurdles have to be cleared before you have a breaking of the law. And most importantly by whom.

[Nick Young]

I love that the leftist narrative is getting completely exposed as a fraud but there are still zealots around who cling to it as if their life depends on it. As the narrative continues to unravel, the lefty zealots continue to say crazier and crazier shit.

[NumberSix]

Your outrage and your example only make the slighest bit of sense if you are completely ignorant of how the entire State Department processes classified material.

You may want to learn about SIPRNet and about how much open source intelligence the state dept deals with.


For a kicker you may want to learn the laws. And what hurdles have to be cleared before you have a breaking of the law. And most importantly by whom.
So, you're saying it's ok that she had an unsecured server because she had a reasonable expectation that as Secretary of State, she would never receive classified information?

[FillJackson]

So, you're saying it's ok that she had an unsecured server because she had a reasonable expectation that as Secretary of State, she would never receive classified information?
No.

I am saying you have no idea whatsoever how the State Department is set up to deal with classified information.

This is completely aside from Clinton. You don't seem to know that all State Department employees work on the nonsecure servers all the time.

I believe every state.gov email address is on the nonsecure network, NIPRnet which is the Non-Secure Internet Protocol (IP) Router Network. So regular State Dept emails are nonsecure. The secure system is SIPRnet, Secret Internet Protocol Router Network, and that is what is used for transmitted classified materials.

The issue of the personal server is separate from any potential mishandling of classified info. An email from a state.gov address to a state.gov address could involve mishandling of classified info.

[falc39]

More Emails Emerge Showing Iowa’s Tom Harkin Pressuring Hillary To Hire His Daughter At The State Dept. (http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/01/more-emails-emerge-showing-iowas-tom-harkin-pressuring-hillary-to-hire-his-daughter-at-the-state-dept/)


Finding a job in the Hillary Clinton State Department for the daughter of then-Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin was not an easy task, emails released on Friday show. It was summer 2009 and there were a “limited number of slots” in the Office of War Crimes Issues, the State Department sub-agency where Harkin hoped to find a job for his daughter Jenny. But the powerful Hawkeye State Democrat, now retired, was persistent, calling Clinton several times and contacting the White House in order to find gainful employment for his kid, a Georgetown University law school graduate.


Clinton and company’s help for the Harkins likely did not break any laws. But it does provide a behind-the-scenes look at political horse trading that politicians like Harkin and Clinton likely prefer to keep hidden. Harkin did not respond to an emailed request for comment.

Ken Boehm, the chairman of the National Legal and Policy Center, an ethics watchdog group, said that while it is hard to prove an exact quid pro quo, the email exchanges suggest that that is the case.

“Thanks to the Hillary Clinton emails being released, it appears beyond any doubt that Clinton yielded to political favoritism to get the daughter of Iowa Senator Harkin a job at the State Department,” he told The Daily Caller.

How convenient that Harkin has endorsed Hillary and is pumping her up on the campaign trail.