Peak Carmelo Anthony vs Peak James Harden

[Legends66NBA7]

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At their best, who you got ?

[lilteapot]

Melo easily

[Lebronxrings]

harden slightly

[brownmamba00]

Melo

better postgame and clutch as hell

[smoovegittar]

Carmelo. Who is this Hardon cat?

[SugarHill]

Harden last season was better than Melo ever was

[Young X]

Harden.

People already forgetting how great of a season he had last year.

What it comes down to is this, Melo doesn't have the playmaking ability and he's an even worse player performer than Harden.

[swagga]

regular season : a wash
PO: melo by a good distance

[feyki]

Harden .

[SugarHill]

regular season : a wash
PO: melo by a good distance
melo isn't some amazing playoff performer

[imnew09]

Harden was able to carry Houston to the playoff in the strong West last season. ( Dwight missed tons of games)

Melo can't even carry his team to the playoff in the FKEN WEAK A$$ EAST :facepalm

[dubeta]

Harden was able to carry Houston to the playoff in the strong West last season. ( Dwight missed tons of games)

Melo can't even carry his team to the playoff in the FKEN WEAK A$$ EAST :facepalm

They both are better than Kobe

[Sarcastic]

Probably the only time you'd say this, but Melo because of his defense. :lol

[swagga]

melo isn't some amazing playoff performer

i know son, i've seen his entire career.
but melo has big time performances with clutch offense and defense in both playoffs (that denver la WCF was fun to watch, he dragged NY to the PO too) and for team USA. Melo's game is also much more refined and applicable in the PO with post offense, rebounding, post defense and passable perimeter defense (peak). He is also a good offball player (team usa) so he can work in a variety of lineups.

Performance aside, melo never had a teammate of dwight howard or durant's level, so he didn't get easy paths to deep playoff runs.

It's funny to say this, but peak melo is a much better defender than peak harden.

Melo isn't the creator that harden is, but he is a much more steady hand imo, especially with a decent PG (billups really helped him), because he isn't whistle reliant. Harden is a disgrace towards this sport, if they'd whistle the game fairly he'd be a just another empty stats guy, I have never seen a more whistle reliant player in my life, and I've seen more than 20 years of ball. It's beyond ridiculous, it's downright shameful.

So overall i'm taking melo, even though I dislike him as a player and I'm unhappy with him in new york.

Imo you should watch more of young melo, before he stop giving a fck.

[dunksby]

Melo of course, dude can actually make shots.

[Cold soul]

Melo

[Fallen Angel]

King James in the Western Conference Finals vs. the Warriors:

28.4 ppg | 7.8 rpg | 6.4 apg | 0.6 bpg | 2.4 spg in 40 mpg shooting 47%/43%/87%

He's literally the only player on the Rockets that showed up that series.

[JohnMax]

regular season : a wash
PO: melo by a good distance

In exactly half of Carmelo's playoff games, he's shot 40 percent or less

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jR90yAyTYY&t=2m57s

33 out of 66 playoff games where Melo shot 40 percent or less highlighted in yellow

http://imgur.com/FL5dIOY

Carmelo

regular season 25.2 ppg 6.6 rpg 3.1 apg 45.5%
playoffs 25.7 ppg 7.3 rpg 2.8 apg 41.7%

Kobe

regular season 25.4 ppg 5.3 rpg 4.8 apg 45.1%
playoffs 25.6 ppg 5.1 rpg 4.7 apg 44.8%

[Fallen Angel]

When Carmelo gets serious talk about being an MVP candidate and is able to lead his team to the Conference Finals without an All-Star, maybe then you could talk about him having a better career than James Harden. At this point, Harden is pegged to surpass Carmelo on the All-Time list in the coming years.

2015 Harden vs. 2013 Carmelo is no debate.

Carmelo underachieved that postseason, while Harden overachieved.

Carmelo got 1 first place MVP vote compared to Harden's 25, Melo didn't even get the most second place votes that year.

Don't kid yourself, Harden has been and will always be better than Cuckmelo.

[lilteapot]

King James in the Western Conference Finals vs. the Warriors:

28.4 ppg | 7.8 rpg | 6.4 apg | 0.6 bpg | 2.4 spg in 40 mpg shooting 47%/43%/87%

He's literally the only player on the Rockets that showed up that series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1pEjT4mQIU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfSr8uUOdeM

What was that again?

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[Fallen Angel]

Was that supposed to phase me? Scram elsewhere gramps, people are trying to talk educated basketball.

You're 40 years old and still trying to troll on a message board? Grow up.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Harden, Young X explained why ...

[lilteapot]

Was that supposed to phase me? Scram elsewhere gramps, people are trying to talk educated basketball.

You're 40 years old and still trying to troll on a message board? Grow up.
Who's trolling? Are you denying he choked away two key games on his lonesome?

[swagga]

King James in the Western Conference Finals vs. the Warriors:

28.4 ppg | 7.8 rpg | 6.4 apg | 0.6 bpg | 2.4 spg in 40 mpg shooting 47%/43%/87%

He's literally the only player on the Rockets that showed up that series.

your post is a mess junior.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2015-nba-western-conference-finals-rockets-vs-warriors.html as you can see here other people chimed in, dwight with 15 & 15 for example. That's called showing up.

Harden got those numbers by stagnating the living shit out of the offense and making GSW's life easy. He had more FTs (46) than made FGs(42) and an astronomic turnover rate (23 TOs in 5 games) ... he played right into GSW's hands. Half his points were directly negated from his horrible TOs, which against GSW were promtly transformed into points. And with his horrific defense against curry/klay who he lost countless times off of screens he gave up a shitload of points directly (open man) or indirectly (because team defense scrambled to cover and the possession ended with an open GSW 3 because harden is incapable of switching covers). He gave up more points than he created, you'd of seen this if you'd bothered to actually watch the games. Real emtpy stats.

I could go on as to how he didn't look to feed howard to put pressure on the weak GSW low post D or how stagnating the offense freezed (and daily freezes) out howard (a legitimate option), but these are subtleties too hard for you to grasp.

In reality you are just a little box score watcher with a cute name like fallen angel (lol), the typical beta to stan a loser like harden and a dumbass hack like morey. The definition of a casual fan that just puts Pts/Reb/Ast and fgs to quantify a player.

Jesus Christ, y'all kids watch this basketball shit like it's a fcking cartoon :facepalm No wonder harden was voted MVP :facepalm :facepalm

inb4 meldown/umad/harden MVP.

[Smoke117]

Who cares?...both vastly overrated players.

[swagga]

When Carmelo gets serious talk about being an MVP candidate and is able to lead his team to the Conference Finals without an All-Star, maybe then you could talk about him having a better career than James Harden. At this point, Harden is pegged to surpass Carmelo on the All-Time list in the coming years.

2015 Harden vs. 2013 Carmelo is no debate.

Carmelo underachieved that postseason, while Harden overachieved.

Carmelo got 1 first place MVP vote compared to Harden's 25, Melo didn't even get the most second place votes that year.

Don't kid yourself, Harden has been and will always be better than Cuckmelo.

lol casual fans :roll:

[swagga]

In exactly half of Carmelo's playoff games, he's shot 40 percent or less

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jR90yAyTYY&t=2m57s

33 out of 66 playoff games where Melo shot 40 percent or less highlighted in yellow

http://imgur.com/FL5dIOY

Carmelo

regular season 25.2 ppg 6.6 rpg 3.1 apg 45.5%
playoffs 25.7 ppg 7.3 rpg 2.8 apg 41.7%

Kobe

regular season 25.4 ppg 5.3 rpg 4.8 apg 45.1%
playoffs 25.6 ppg 5.1 rpg 4.7 apg 44.8%

watch the game not the boxscore, by boxscore watching you'll soon start saying kobe < harden .. that's how ridiculously misleading are stats without context.

[imdaman99]

Melo because he is not the worst defender in the league.

[swagga]

Who cares?...both vastly overrated players.

always wondered how carmelo woud've ended up if he were drafted by the pistons... come to think of it he had some really shit teams compared to lebron/wade/kobe. That's life I guess.

[swagga]

Melo because he is not the worst defender in the league.

but but but defense is not on the boxscore :roll:

[Legends66NBA7]

Who cares?.

Obviously I do since I made the thread.

Don't post in a thread you don't care for, just to give out smug statements.

[Fallen Angel]

Eye Test tells me Harden is the better player at putting points up on the board
Eye Test tells me Harden is the better passer
Eye Test tells me Harden is the deadlier player in the full court
Eye Test tells me Harden is a better player than Carmelo

Box Scores and Advanced Stats all tell me the same thing.

Hell, even accolades tell me the same thing.

There's no debate. Anthony's below average defense isn't great enough to put him above Harden.

[jayfan]

Melo.



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