Live Iowa Caucus Results

[FillJackson]

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/694615444209139712



Women 30-44 was pretty shocking to me.Women who grew up in the world paved in 70's and 80's.

[BoutPractice]

Why the hell would Bernie get the Latino vote when there are TWO fu*king Latinos running in the Republican Party??
Because both are Cubans competing over how many Mexicans they will deport or at least keep in constant fear of deportation.

Today's Republican party is openly hostile in rhetoric and policies to Mexicans, who represent more than 60% of Hispanics.

Why would Mexicans support the "Mexicans are criminals and rapists" party?

[ThePhantomCreep]

Let's be honest.


Unless Trump loses New Hampshire, then things are very much open wide.


According to experts, Trump wasn't meant to win Iowa, so Phantomcreep and the other libtard Dondadda can sit the f.ck down.


On the other side, same goes. Bernie is looking to poll better as it moves to New Hampshire.

True, but Trump was the frontrunner for two weeks leading up to the caucus, yet he lost, and nearly finished 3rd. The poll numbers he loves to brag about didn't translate to a victory, and turnout was huge too, so he can't blame it on his supporters staying home.

He should still win NH--he's too far ahead not to--but make no mistake, the "Anybody But Trump" faction of the GOP will start making their presence felt as fringe candidates like Carson, Bush, and Christie drop out.

[NumberSix]

Because both are Cubans competing over how many Mexicans they will deport or at least keep in constant fear of deportation.

Today's Republican party is openly hostile in rhetoric and policies to Mexicans, who represent more than 60% of Hispanics.

Why would Mexicans support the "Mexicans are criminals and rapists" party?
Since when did... Illegal = Mexican?

[Patrick Chewing]

Because both are Cubans competing over how many Mexicans they will deport or at least keep in constant fear of deportation.

Today's Republican party is openly hostile in rhetoric and policies to Mexicans, who represent more than 60% of Hispanics.

Why would Mexicans support the "Mexicans are criminals and rapists" party?


Illegal immigrants are breaking the law. No way around that. Not one Republican candidate has ever said that all Mexicans are criminals and rapists. Not one. So why lie??


If those Mexicans weren't breaking the law, then there would be plenty of Americans still alive today. Without law, there's lawlessness. I guess that's what you want.


Tell her family how you feel about this...

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150703215706-kate-steinle-sf-shooting-victim-large-169.jpg

[BoutPractice]

Since when did... Illegal = Mexican?
Since the leading Republican candidate nationally has conflated the two?

Just ask Mexicans how they're taking the rhetoric coming from the Republican side. They feel like they're being targeted as a group, beyond the illegal issue.

I'm not saying every Mexican will vote Democratic, but it'll be a solid majority, possibly greater than usual... Mexican Americans have plenty of reasons to dislike the Republican party whoever they and the Democrats nominate for president.

With that said, it seems to me that the Republicans, and particularly Trump, can make large gains among black voters this cycle, so this could cancel out any loss of support among Latinos.

[NumberSix]

Since the leading Republican candidate nationally has conflated the two?
Did he? Or are left wingers just doing a good job of convincing people that he did?

Trump said that the Mexican government is pushing the people they don't want into America. Some of those people are Mexicans, some are Central Americans and some are South Americans. Nobody EVER said that "Mexicans are criminals and rapists". It never happened.

[BoutPractice]

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

Verbatim.

And if you try to sugarcoat what Trump was saying in that statement, remember that Trump himself was deliberately being shocking... He wasn't trying to make a nuanced, substantive point, but to troll the media, which he did brilliantly.

Trump's whole strategy has been to ask "what can I say out loud that no other candidate would even dare suggest"?

[ThePhantomCreep]

Since when did... Illegal = Mexican?

Since right-wingers: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-jorge-ramos_us_55ddc41ce4b04ae497051923


Univision later posted video of what happened after Ramos was escorted into the hall by security: A Trump supporter confronted him and said, "You were very rude. It's not about you. Get out of my country."

Ramos came here legally and got his citizenship legally. So why is Trump's handler asking him to leave the country?

Not only is it insulting to imply that most illegal Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers, using the purgative "anchor baby" to describe US citizens (who didn't get to decide where they were born) isn't particularly endearing either.

If you can't figure out why the GOP is on the verge of losing 80-85% of the Latino vote nationwide, I can't help you.

[niko]

Until last night, the record for most votes in the republican caucus was 42k. Donald trump got 45.5k. Ted Cruz is the only republican in the history of the Iowa caucus to get more votes than Donald Trump.
Trump was leading. He didn't win. He's getting the majority of the attention but I still think when push comes to shove his support is much less real than the other candidates.

Saying "TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!" is fun. Look at this board. Actually voting for him as a Republican? Makes a crapload less sense.

[Dresta]

Because both are Cubans competing over how many Mexicans they will deport or at least keep in constant fear of deportation.

Today's Republican party is openly hostile in rhetoric and policies to Mexicans, who represent more than 60% of Hispanics.

Why would Mexicans support the "Mexicans are criminals and rapists" party?
This is foolish. Illegal immigrants are criminals by definition; no-one said anything specifically about Mexicans who are in America legally being criminals. A system in which illegal immigration is easy, and legal immigration extremely difficult, is a broken system, with terrible incentives.

[NumberSix]

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[BoutPractice]

Come on, you know I'm not trying to make a substantive point on immigration policy here.

You guys are just refusing to read the literal content of what Trump said.

The word" illegal" does not feature in his quote. The word Mexican does. (In fact, in the entire speech, the word "illegal" is used just once... to refer to Obama's executive action, not the immigrants)

The quote is literally about "Mexico" sending "its people" who are "rapists".

[NumberSix]

Trump was leading. He didn't win. He's getting the majority of the attention but I still think when push comes to shove his support is much less real than the other candidates.

Saying "TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!" is fun. Look at this board. Actually voting for him as a Republican? Makes a crapload less sense.
That may be true, but Iowa is a special case. He only had a lead that was just barely outside of the margin of error by about 1 point (5 point lead, 4 point margin of error). In the states coming up he has leads of 18-20 points. And in these next primary states, it's much easier to vote, unlike the wonky caucus.

[Patrick Chewing]

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[Patrick Chewing]

Come on, you know I'm not trying to make a substantive point on immigration policy here.

You guys are just refusing to read the literal content of what Trump said.

The word" illegal" does not feature in his quote. The word Mexican does. (In fact, in the entire transcript of the speech, the word "illegal" is used just once... about Obama's executive action, not the immigrants)

The quote is literally about "Mexico" sending "its people" who are "rapists".

Over 65% of the immigrants entering this country illegally are from Mexico. He's not singling them out because one or two are crossing the border. He's singling them out because they are the overwhelming majority.

[BoutPractice]

If you know Trump at all, you know that he always prefaces his insults with "I like X" or "X is a good guy".

Trumpese 101:
"I like Jeb. Jeb's a nice guy. But he's a lightweight, totally low-energy."

I'm not as slanted as you think. I honestly don't know how bigoted Trump himself is. But he sure does seem to think his supporters and potential supporters are, because he's obviously pandering to that sort of crowd.

[Dresta]

Since the leading Republican candidate nationally has conflated the two?

Just ask Mexicans how they're taking the rhetoric coming from the Republican side. They feel like they're being targeted as a group, beyond the illegal issue.

I'm not saying every Mexican will vote Democratic, but it'll be a solid majority, possibly greater than usual... Mexican Americans have plenty of reasons to dislike the Republican party whoever they and the Democrats nominate for president.

With that said, it seems to me that the Republicans, and particularly Trump, can make large gains among black voters this cycle, so this could cancel out any loss of support among Latinos.
Unless they're trying to smuggle their relatives over, i assure you, nothing rankles more with people who have been through the ringer to legally acquire a green card, or a legal workers visa, than others being given a free pass for taking the easy route; that's why former immigrants are very often heavily anti-immigrant, as well as the fact they are usually the one's competing with the new waves of immigrants.

Want to know why things are getting worse for blacks in America? Look no further than mass migration--who do you think these migrants are competing with, whose standard of living do you think they're making worse? The poor, the unskilled, not the middle class bohemians who like eating at ethnic restaurants, hiring cheap nannies and cleaners, and getting cheap blueberries, nor the wealthy corporations who want to keep wages depressed so as to swell their profits.

[NumberSix]

The quote is literally about "Mexico" sending "its people" who are "rapists".
Yeah, within the context of ILLEGAL immigration. It had nothing to do with LEGAL immigrants or American citizens of Mexican ancestry.

I'm sorry to tell you, but illegals ARE criminals. Not some of them. Not even most of them. ALL of them. Some of them ARE rapists, and some of them are good people. It's an entirely accurate statement.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Verbatim: "I love the Mexican people. I love the spirit of the Mexican people."

So which is it? He loves them or he hates them?

What's that saying about first impressions?

Trump must be super religious too--he said so! Sure, he couldn't name his favorite Bible verse when pressed (even I could quote a few, and I'm hardly religious) and his favorite book is "Two Corinthians", but take Trump's word for it, he's a total Jesus freak! :rolleyes:

Trump as the nominee wouldn't get 15% of the Latino vote.

[Patrick Chewing]

If you know Trump at all, you know that he always prefaces his insults with "I like X" or "X is a good guy".

Trumpese 101:
"I like Jeb. Jeb's a nice guy. But he's a lightweight, totally low-energy."

I'm not as slanted as you think. I honestly don't know how bigoted Trump himself is. But he sure does seem to think his supporters and potential supporters are, because he's obviously pandering to that sort of crowd.


Sigh.

Why does he have to be bigoted in the first place? Why can't he be Politically Incorrect by stating the actual truth? The Mexicans that cross the border are law-breakers. Kate Steinle was killed by an illegal immigrant from Mexico who had been deported around 5 times prior. And that's just one case in a slew of thousands of illegal immigrant crimes.

Reminds me of the time Geraldo Rivera defended an illegal Mexican immigrant who was under the influence and killed an American citizen. He was brazen enough to say this is an alcohol problem and not an illegal immigration problem. I mean....wow.

Forget how YOU think he feels towards Mexicans. The focus should be on fixing a broken immigration system and eliminating sanctuary cities once and for all.

Liberals want to paint this false narrative that if you're anti illegal immigration, then you're anti Mexican just because Mexicans happen to be the majority of the immigrants coming over. That's such nonsense that I'm surprised people aren't smarter to see through that disingenuous tactic.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Yeah, within the context of ILLEGAL immigration. It had nothing to do with LEGAL immigrants or American citizens of Mexican ancestry.

I'm sorry to tell you, but illegals ARE criminals. Not some of them. Not even most of them. ALL of them. Some of them ARE rapists, and some of them are good people. It's an entirely accurate statement.


The vast majority of them are not rapists and drug dealers. Immigrants in general commit fewer crimes than native-borns statistically, and since illegals are included in that total, it's safe to say they're not boosting the totals. Most do their best to avoid trouble with the law.

Despite Trump's rhetoric, most Americans still favor a path to citizenship. Trump supporters cannot differentiate between the severity of rape and border-jumping, but most Americans thankfully can.

[NumberSix]

Sigh.

Why does he have to be bigoted in the first place? Why can't he be Politically Incorrect by stating the actual truth? The Mexicans that cross the border are law-breakers. Kate Steinle was killed by an illegal immigrant from Mexico who had been deported around 5 times prior. And that's just one case in a slew of thousands of illegal immigrant crimes.

Reminds me of the time Geraldo Rivera defended an illegal Mexican immigrant who was under the influence and killed an American citizen. He was brazen enough to say this is an alcohol problem and not an illegal immigration problem. I mean....wow.

Forget how YOU think he feels towards Mexicans. The focus should be on fixing a broken immigration system and eliminating sanctuary cities once and for all.

Liberals want to paint this false narrative that if you're anti illegal immigration, then you're anti Mexican just because Mexicans happen to be the majority of the immigrants coming over. That's such nonsense that I'm surprised people aren't smarter to see through that disingenuous tactic.
That's because the Democrat game plan is to keep all the illegals in the country and eventually give them the right to vote.

[BoutPractice]

Rereading it, it's incredible how little illegal immigration is mentioned in Trump's announcement speech (he more than made up for it later in the campaign).

Trump mentions Mexico 15 times, but "illegal" just once and "immigration" twice.

Most of the time, his references to Mexico have to do with trade. He's as concerned with cars flowing across the Mexican border as with actual Mexicans.

I would venture to guess this speech is closer to representing Trump's real concerns... especially since Trump is in fact rather fond of employing illegal immigrants for his own ventures. (The most obvious line of attack the Democrats can use against him if he gets the nomination)

[NumberSix]

The vast majority of them are not rapists and drug dealers. Immigrants in general commit fewer crimes than native-borns statistically, and since illegals are included in that total, it's safe to say they're not boosting the totals. Most do their best to avoid trouble with the law.

Despite Trump's rhetoric, most Americans still favor a path to citizenship. Trump supporters cannot differentiate between the severity of rape and border-jumping, but most Americans thankfully can.
:roll:

No, they don't. The stat you're thinking of is that immigrants commit less crime than native born Americans THAT HAVE A PREVIOUS CRIMINAL RECORD. Of course, it makes no sense to make such a comparison, but the obvious intention is to misinform people like you who will think it means that immigrants commit less crime than Americans.

[Terahite]

The vast majority of them are not rapists and drug dealers. Immigrants in general commit fewer crimes than native-borns statistically, and since illegals are included in that total, it's safe to say they're not boosting the totals. Most do their best to avoid trouble with the law.

Despite Trump's rhetoric, most Americans still favor a path to citizenship. Trump supporters cannot differentiate between the severity of rape and border-jumping, but most Americans thankfully can.

You mean native-born blacks. Just say it you racist. :lol

[Patrick Chewing]

Want to know why things are getting worse for blacks in America? Look no further than mass migration--who do you think these migrants are competing with, whose standard of living do you think they're making worse? The poor, the unskilled, not the middle class bohemians who like eating at ethnic restaurants, hiring cheap nannies and cleaners, and getting cheap blueberries, nor the wealthy corporations who want to keep wages depressed so as to swell their profits.


Dresta brings up a great point that I've echoed in the past on here. But this board being predominantly Liberal and predominantly White, the truth usually then falls on deaf ears.

I've heard many Liberals say that no one would take those immigrant farming jobs or contracting jobs and while it's a fact that those jobs are dominated by immigrants, it should never have to be that way.

The people that should be taking those jobs are the people that have no jobs and are dependent of the government and collecting welfare checks. In other words, a majority of Black America.

Black America will never succeed with Liberal policies in place, yet they are bamboozled time and time again into keeping these same Liberals in power.

[poido123]

If you know Trump at all, you know that he always prefaces his insults with "I like X" or "X is a good guy".

Trumpese 101:
"I like Jeb. Jeb's a nice guy. But he's a lightweight, totally low-energy."

I'm not as slanted as you think. I honestly don't know how bigoted Trump himself is. But he sure does seem to think his supporters and potential supporters are, because he's obviously pandering to that sort of crowd.



Trump will do what's best for business and America.


He's not financially invested in keeping anyone happy and he looks to have China in his sights too. His goal is simply to fix up the mess left by Obama.

[ThePhantomCreep]

You mean native-born blacks. Just say it you racist. :lol

No, I meant native-born Americans. The fact that you immediately thought to scapegoat Blacks makes you a typical Trump supporter (AKA: a bigot). Now you're projecting.

[ThePhantomCreep]

:roll:

No, they don't. The stat you're thinking of is that immigrants commit less crime than native born Americans THAT HAVE A PREVIOUS CRIMINAL RECORD. Of course, it makes no sense to make such a comparison, but the obvious intention is to misinform people like you who will think it means that immigrants commit less crime than Americans.

I have no idea what you're talking about--no study I've seen makes this statement.

In fact, there's no correlation between immigration (legal or otherwise) and increases in violent crime. Multiple studies: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/02/surprise-donald-trump-is-wrong-about-immigrants-and-crime/

[Dresta]

Dresta brings up a great point that I've echoed in the past on here. But this board being predominantly Liberal and predominantly White, the truth usually then falls on deaf ears.

I've heard many Liberals say that no one would take those immigrant farming jobs or contracting jobs and while it's a fact that those jobs are dominated by immigrants, it should never have to be that way.

The people that should be taking those jobs are the people that have no jobs and are dependent of the government and collecting welfare checks. In other words, a majority of Black America.

Black America will never succeed with Liberal policies in place, yet they are bamboozled time and time again into keeping these same Liberals in power.
Yeah, but if they actually thought about what they said, they'd realise this is also a foolish argument. Maybe Americans don't want to work tough jobs for shitty pay, fine, but that just means that employers would be forced to pay more for those jobs, if we weren't constantly flooding the labour market with dirt-cheap labour. T

Instead they want a nationwide--completely impracticable--$15 minimum wage, when there is already an oversupply of labour.

The most simple of economic concepts, supply and demand, is beyond the comprehension of the fools who make these arguments.

[NumberSix]

I have no idea what you're talking about--no study I've seen makes this statement.

In fact, there's no correlation between immigration (legal or otherwise) and increases in violent crime. Multiple studies: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/02/surprise-donald-trump-is-wrong-about-immigrants-and-crime/
Illegals are overrepresented in all crime stats. Illegals are roughly 3.5% of the American population, but they commit 7% of sex crimes, 9% of murders, 12% of assaults and 30% of kidnappings. Not to mention that 100% of illegals are guilty of breaking the immigration laws.

The idea that illegals commit less crimes than Americans has no basis in reality.

[bladefd]

Dresta, poido, numbersix, patty chew (number6/patty chew more so) coming out of the woodworks.. "Oh, my dear Donny said that? He actually meant THAT!" What are you guys? The PR team of Donald Duc..err Trump?

Look, words speak for themselves. Your dear Donny didn't single out illegals from Mexico but said MEXICANS.

Politicians have a tendency to stay vague so their sentences end up having multiple meanings to different people. To Donny supporters, he meant 'illegals'. To everyone else, he literally meant 'Mexicans.' Trump intentionally wants that so he stays in the news with people arguing over what he "actually" meant. You fell for it. :facepalm

(Mexico will see the latter so good luck "making" them build the wall) :roll:

[ThePhantomCreep]

Illegals are overrepresented in all crime stats. Illegals are roughly 3.5% of the American population, but they commit 7% of sex crimes, 9% of murders, 12% of assaults and 30% of kidnappings. Not to mention that 100% of illegals are guilty of breaking the immigration laws.

The idea that illegals commit less crimes than Americans has no basis in reality.

Way to misinterpret that data:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/16/voices-gomez-undocumented-immigrant-crime-san-francisco-shooting/30159479/


Supporters of the Trump theory have been pointing to data from the U.S. Sentencing Commission that found undocumented immigrants account for disturbingly high levels of violent crime. While they represent just 3.5% of the U.S. population, undocumented immigrants represented 7% of federal prison sentences following convictions on charges of sexual abuse, 9% of murders, 12% of assaults and 30% of kidnappings in 2013.

Case closed, right? Far from it.

Only a tiny percentage of the nation’s violent crimes are handled by the federal court system. Yes, undocumented immigrants accounted for 9.2% of federal murder convictions in 2013, but that represents a grand total of eight murder cases. When you consider that the FBI estimates there were 14,196 murders in the U.S. in 2013, those few cases handled by the federal court system don’t quite register as a reliable sample set.


Illegal immigrants are far more likely to get caught up in the federal court system--they make up 30% of the federal prison population. Yet of the violent crimes listed, only kidnappings are equal to their their share of the prison population. They're actually underrepresented in violent crime, by a significant margin.

[Trollsmasher]

The vast majority of them are not rapists and drug dealers. Immigrants in general commit fewer crimes than native-borns statistically, and since illegals are included in that total, it's safe to say they're not boosting the totals. Most do their best to avoid trouble with the law.

Despite Trump's rhetoric, most Americans still favor a path to citizenship. Trump supporters cannot differentiate between the severity of rape and border-jumping, but most Americans thankfully can.
80% Of Central American Women, Girls Are Raped Crossing Into The U.S.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/12/central-america-migrants-rape_n_5806972.html

his point about most of them being rapist and some of them being good people was exactly on point:applause:

[Patrick Chewing]

Dresta, poido, numbersix, patty chew (number6/patty chew more so) coming out of the woodworks.. "Oh, my dear Donny said that? He actually meant THAT!" What are you guys? The PR team of Donald Duc..err Trump?

Look, words speak for themselves. Your dear Donny didn't single out illegals from Mexico but said MEXICANS.

Politicians have a tendency to stay vague so their sentences end up having multiple meanings to different people. To Donny supporters, he meant 'illegals'. To everyone else, he literally meant 'Mexicans.' Trump intentionally wants that so he stays in the news with people arguing over what he "actually" meant. You fell for it. :facepalm

(Mexico will see the latter so good luck "making" them build the wall) :roll:

I suggest you re-read these posts that you obviously didn't read. Trump is speaking for himself here. I can't change what he meant if there is nothing to change.

The other poster wanted to paint this incorrect picture that Trump said that all Mexicans were criminals and rapists and that is 100% incorrect. He never said that or imply it nor did any other Republican candidate say that or imply it.

If Mexicans aren't sending "their best", then that clearly implies that the ones that want to come here legally are doing so, and the ones that want to break the law are doing so as well. Blame Mexico for making unlivable conditions, forcing their residents to flee. That's what he means.

As a descendant of a Cuban, I can clearly tell you that the Cubans that came on the Mariel boatlift were not the best Cubans and not the best Cuba had to offer. They were criminals and undesirables and this is an irrefutable fact. Does that make people anti-Cuban?? The law-abiding Cuban community has made a name for itself in such a short period of time, and wouldn't you know, we have two children of Cuban immigrants running for President.

This has nothing to do with Mexicans. This has to do with right and wrong.

[9erempiree]

Live in New Hampshire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5mKWk9JTRk

[NumberSix]

Way to misinterpret that data:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/16/voices-gomez-undocumented-immigrant-crime-san-francisco-shooting/30159479/




Illegal immigrants are far more likely to get caught up in the federal court system--they make up 30% of the federal prison population. Yet of the violent crimes listed, only kidnappings are equal to their their share of the prison population. They're actually underrepresented in violent crime, by a significant margin.
Sorry bro. Illegals aren't 30% of the population. They're 3.5%. Anything above 3.5% is an over representation. They're over represented in violent crimes. All you've shown is that they're even more over represented in other crimes. Probably identity thefts, etc...

And if they are only 3.5% of the population but make up 30% of federal prisoners, they're clearly committing a fcuk load of crimes. The fact that you think a group of people who are 3.5% of the country and make up 30% of federal prisoners is an "under representation" is frankly not surprising.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Sorry bro. Illegals aren't 30% of the population. They're 3.5%. Anything above 3.5% is an over representation. They're over represented in violent crimes. All you've shown is that they're even more over represented in other crimes. Probably identity thefts, etc...

And if they are only 3.5% of the population but make up 30% of federal prisoners, they're clearly committing a fcuk load of crimes. The fact that you think a group of people who are 3.5% of the country and make up 30% of federal prisoners is an "under representation" is frankly not surprising.

WTF is wrong with you? :biggums:

Your stats were for criminals housed in federal prisons, not prisons in general. The vast majority of our prison population is housed at the state level.

"Identity theft" = fake ID purchased at MacArthur Park. Hide your daughters, right-wingers! :oldlol:

According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, there were around 90,000 noncitizens incarcerated in federal and state prison systems at year end in 2013. Not only is that number lower than 3.5%, it includes legal residents as well. They're underrepresented, dude.

[poido123]

Plot Twist:


Obama will cancel the election.


Obama enacts marshall law and is behind the black lives matters incidents to create fear in the communities.


When the communities cry out for help when the blacks are on a mass wi.tchhunt, Obama will enact Marshall law to protect the citizens.

[Take Your Lumps]

Funny watching the media scramble to find ways to rationalize a landslide NH loss for Clinton just because Sanders is from neighboring Vermont.

He just tied her in a state that borders her own home state of Illinois.

[UK2K]

Dresta, poido, numbersix, patty chew (number6/patty chew more so) coming out of the woodworks.. "Oh, my dear Donny said that? He actually meant THAT!" What are you guys? The PR team of Donald Duc..err Trump?

Look, words speak for themselves. Your dear Donny didn't single out illegals from Mexico but said MEXICANS.

Politicians have a tendency to stay vague so their sentences end up having multiple meanings to different people. To Donny supporters, he meant 'illegals'. To everyone else, he literally meant 'Mexicans.' Trump intentionally wants that so he stays in the news with people arguing over what he "actually" meant. You fell for it. :facepalm

(Mexico will see the latter so good luck "making" them build the wall) :roll:

They won't build it because then they'll be stuck with the flood of immigrants coming from Central and South America.

They don't want to deal with the problem any more than we do. To think they're not turning a blind eye is just being naive.

[UK2K]

Rand Paul is outtie per Fox.

Just broke.

[Take Your Lumps]

Republicans get so caught up with wedge and identity issues that they just ignored and killed the campaign of the one real statesman who stands for most of the conservative ideals you all care about. Nice work. :facepalm

[Trollsmasher]

Trump going nuclear on Rafael

http://puu.sh/mUlPq/b2d928301d.png

Cruz's campaign should be suspended by RNC for these disgusting tactics

#StandwithDrBen

[Take Your Lumps]

Trump needs to settle down with the tweets....he's going to talk himself out of a landslide victory in NH.

He might be right about dems suing over Cruz's candidacy, but entrance polls in Iowa showed that Republicans didn't care at all that he was born outside of the US (15% did). And in NH, a state that borders Canada, that's probably not going to be a winning message there either.

Save the fear mongering for the dummies in the south where they'll eat that shit up.

Contesting the validity of election results via Twitter when you lose by as much as he did is not a good look from the outside looking in.

[UK2K]

Trump going nuclear on Rafael

http://puu.sh/mUlPq/b2d928301d.png

Cruz's campaign should be suspended by RNC for these disgusting tactics

#StandwithDrBen

He's got a point.

[FillJackson]

Trump going nuclear on Rafael

http://puu.sh/mUlPq/b2d928301d.png

Cruz's campaign should be suspended by RNC for these disgusting tactics

#StandwithDrBen
All these just makes Trump look stupid and whiny. There is not going to be a new election.

If he had an organization on top of things, he would have been tweeting about this on Jan 30, when the Iowa Secretary of State made a public statement about them, not after he already lost.

[FillJackson]

Plot Twist:


Obama will cancel the election.


Obama enacts marshall law and is behind the black lives matters incidents to create fear in the communities.


When the communities cry out for help when the blacks are on a mass wi.tchhunt, Obama will enact Marshall law to protect the citizens.
You are true ****ing moron on several levels. But this isn't a plot twist it's a deeply rooted fantasy of yours.

Marhsall law :facepalm

[Godzuki]

what cruz did is so slimy. doesnt surprise me tho considering he's the one who cost us tens of millions with the sequester. its unbelievable he has supporters. its funny how dem's hate Trump so much when Cruz is a million times worse. Dem's are so dumb :lol

[Nanners]

the republican candidate is going to be marco rubio

[Take Your Lumps]

the republican candidate is going to be marco rubio

https://i.imgur.com/ohcCoyz.jpg

[DonDadda59]

Plot Twist:


Obama will cancel the election.


Obama enacts marshall law and is behind the black lives matters incidents to create fear in the communities.


When the communities cry out for help when the blacks are on a mass wi.tchhunt, Obama will enact Marshall law to protect the citizens.

Bout f*cking time.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a5/Marshall-Law.png

In Marshall Law we trust. :bowdown:

[TheMan]

Why the hell would Bernie get the Latino vote when there are TWO fu*king Latinos running in the Republican Party??
Because Latinos will vote for who best will fight for their economic interests. Bernie is fighting for the average American worker while the Canadian and Marco are in the bag for Corporate America and the 1%ers. That easy.

Anways, other Latinos in America don't really care for Cubans because they get special treatment by the US government so there's that also. Just because their last names are Cruz and Rubio don't mean shit.

[NumberSix]

Because Latinos will vote for who best will fight for their economic interests. Bernie is fighting for the average American worker while the Canadian and Marco are in the bag for Corporate America and the 1%ers. That easy.

Anways, other Latinos in America don't really care for Cubans because they get special treatment by the US government so there's that also. Just because their last names are Cruz and Rubio don't mean shit.
Plus, The Donald is going to win the Latino vote.

[ThePhantomCreep]

It's no wonder Trump and his fans are called the names that they are, he is so transparent.

It would be fraud and stealing the election if the Cruz campaign made it up, it would be fraud if the Cruz campaign sent it out knowing it was false. If they went by an erroneous Cnn report it was dumb but not fraud. Trump wants to make an issue because his ego can't deal with the fact he lost.

I'm still not convinced Trump isn't trying to find an out with these petty rants. He has New Hampshire in the bag, why do this now?

The best part: Ben Carson actually outperformed his poll averages, as did Cruz and Rubio. The only candidate who underperformed significantly was Bozo the Trump.

[NumberSix]

It's no wonder Trump and his fans are called the names that they are, he is so transparent.

It would be fraud and stealing the election if the Cruz campaign made it up, it would be fraud if the Cruz campaign sent it out knowing it was false. If they went by an erroneous Cnn report it was dumb but not fraud. Trump wants to make an issue because his ego can't deal with the fact he lost.

I'm still not convinced Trump isn't trying to find an out with these petty rants. He has New Hampshire in the bag, why do this now?

The best part: Ben Carson actually outperformed his poll averages, as did Cruz and Rubio. The only candidate who underperformed significantly was Bozo the Trump.
The CNN report was that after the Iowa caucus, instead of going straight to New Hampshire, Ben Carson is making a stop in Florida to get some suits from his home and a stop in D.C. To attend the national prayer breakfast.

That's not an erroneous report. He is making those two stops. There's no way to interpret that as "Ben Carson left the race". It was clearly a scumbag move by the Cruz campaign. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean Cruz himself was part of that, but people in his campaign certainly were. It's an absolutely disgusting move.

[Patrick Chewing]

It's no wonder Trump and his fans are called the names that they are, he is so transparent.

It would be fraud and stealing the election if the Cruz campaign made it up, it would be fraud if the Cruz campaign sent it out knowing it was false. If they went by an erroneous Cnn report it was dumb but not fraud. Trump wants to make an issue because his ego can't deal with the fact he lost.

I'm still not convinced Trump isn't trying to find an out with these petty rants. He has New Hampshire in the bag, why do this now?

The best part: Ben Carson actually outperformed his poll averages, as did Cruz and Rubio. The only candidate who underperformed significantly was Bozo the Trump.



I disagree with you on just about everything, your way of life, your whole persona. I'd probably kick dirt in your eye if I saw you getting jumped and pummeled, but this is the perfect post by you.

As a Republican, Trump is not a serious candidate. He doesn't want this job and would probably sell it to the highest bidder if he was actually elected.

[Trollsmasher]

by the way, both Cruz and Trump actually ended up with 7 delegates as both Fiorina and Kasich actually crossed the threshold. Original report were Cruz 8, Trump/Rubio 7

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/IA-R

Poor Ted got his 7.46 delegates rounded down while the Don got his 6.56 rounded up

Take this W Trump fans

[poido123]

by the way, both Cruz and Trump actually ended up with 7 delegates as both Fiorina and Kasich actually crossed the threshold. Original report were Cruz 8, Trump/Rubio 7

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/IA-R

Poor Ted got his 7.46 delegates rounded down while the Don got his 6.56 rounded up

Take this W Trump fans


https://i.imgflip.com/tuvln.gif

[Hawker]

Bout f*cking time.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a5/Marshall-Law.png

In Marshall Law we trust. :bowdown:


:roll: :roll: :roll: **** you for making me laugh at 6 am in the morning.

[9erempiree]

This thread brings a huge smile to my smooth face.

[Nick Young]

If Latinos hate Trump, why are they voting 41% for Trump ahead of latino candidates Cruz and Rubio? :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug: