How many 1 all-star teams have been considered contenders like these Cavs?

[dubeta]

?

I was going to say the 2001 Sixers, but Theo Ratliff was an all star along with Iverson, so that doesnt count




Is it the 2010 Cavs? Another LeBron led team




How come LeBron is the only player who plays on contenders with 0 other all stars??

[SouBeachTalents]

LeBron had 2 all-star teammates for 4 straight years in Miami

[dubeta]

LeBron had 2 all-star teammates for 4 straight years in Miami

And neither of those teammates played like all-stars in the 2012-2014 playoffs, but thats another story

[SouBeachTalents]

And neither of those teammates played like all-stars in the 2012-2014 playoffs, but thats another story

Wade did in 2012

[stalkerforlife]

Irving was out; he's an obvious all-star and the best PG in the east.

Love is being sabotaged by Bran ball because it makes Bran look better; everyone knows he's a real all-star.

[dubeta]

Irving was out; he's an obvious all-star and the best PG in the east.

Love is being sabotaged by Bran ball because it makes Bran look better; everyone knows he's a real all-star.

:lol

[Magic 32]

http://s13.postimg.org/tczz5dh5j/asdasd.jpg

[dubeta]

http://s13.postimg.org/tczz5dh5j/asdasd.jpg

LeBrons the only one of them with 0 all star teammates

[BlazerRed]

And neither of those teammates played like all-stars in the 2012-2014 playoffs, but thats another story
What about Lebron in 2011 letting his teammates down?

http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmkjpwbjh01qh9wcto1_500.jpg

[GrapeApe]

The Rockets last season and Dallas and Chicago in 2011 are a few recent ones that come to mind.

[dubeta]

The Rockets last season and Dallas and Chicago in 2011 are a few recent ones that come to mind.

the Rockets got exposed in the WCF

Dallas werent considered contenders until the 2nd round of the playoffs, and the Bulls were a fraud team

[Magic 32]

LeBrons the only one of them with 0 all star teammates

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/kenyon-martin-during-celebrities-in-town-for-upfronts-attend-bunny-picture-id112444502

[SpaceJam]

Yawn.....MJ's done it and won

[RedBlackAttack]

No doubt if voting was done tomorrow instead of last week, Love would be in. His play of late has been outstanding.

And, Irving has been, not just an All-Star, but the AS Game MVP in his short career. He's played five seasons and been an All-Star three years. The two times he wasn't, he was a rookie (and won the Rookie/Sophomore Game MVP) and the other time he was injured for all but a dozen games before voting was conducted.

These are things everyone knows, but...


/thread

[bobopenguin]

And neither of those teammates played like all-stars in the 2012-2014 playoffs, but thats another story

yeah, that's cos ur lebron screwed them over hard!

[Black and White]

And neither of those teammates played like all-stars in the 2012-2014 playoffs, but thats another story

Is this shifting goalposts or what?

You're using all-star selections as an argument, but then discredit them when it doesn't suit your agenda?

[GrapeApe]

the Rockets got exposed in the WCF

Dallas werent considered contenders until the 2nd round of the playoffs, and the Bulls were a fraud team

So what? You're using hindsight and by that logic there's no way to answer the question. The Rockets and Bulls each reached the conference finals and were considered contenders right up until they lost. If we're using hindsight, Dallas should have been considered a contender. You can't have it both ways.

[Truth]

Incorrect.

He has two all star teammates.

Except his "Black Hole" style of play marginslizes any player around him and what you're left with is one all star.

And a playoff loss when a team of similar talent that actually plays together shows up.

2/7

[GrapeApe]

Is this shifting goalposts or what?

You're using all-star selections as an argument, but then discredit them when it doesn't suit your agenda?

This too. Lebron had 2 all-star teammates for 4 straight years in Miami. What they did in the playoffs is completely irrelevant to his question.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

2014 OKC Tunder

[Smoke117]

Yawn.....MJ's done it and won

...yeah...what shit help he had in 91...Pippen only averaged 21.6ppg 8.9rpg 5.8apg 2.5spg 1.1bpg .564%ts while leading EVERYONE in the playoffs in drating and defensive shares...but MJ did it with no all star.

:yaohappy:

[BlakFrankWhite]

2014 Thunder

[Black and White]

This too. Lebron had 2 all-star teammates for 4 straight years in Miami. What they did in the playoffs is completely irrelevant to his question.

Exactly, he doesn't realise that he set himself up for failure with his OP making all-star selections the basis of his argument, I wonder if anyone actually thinks Hawks > Cavs last year.

[SpaceJam]

...yeah...what shit help he had in 91...Pippen only averaged 21.6ppg 8.9rpg 5.8apg 2.5spg 1.1bpg .564%ts while leading EVERYONE in the playoffs in drating and defensive shares...but MJ did it with no all star.

:yaohappy:

Don't recall saying MJ had no help :biggums:

Throw as much stats around as you want, he DID NOT make the All Star game which OP is implying

Kyrie and Love playing at their best are All Stars, but because they didn't make the All Star game they're bums according to OP so :confusedshrug:

[bdreason]

Not sure how Bosh made it over Love. I thought the coaches rewarded winning. :confusedshrug:

[SouBeachTalents]

Not sure how Bosh made it over Love. I thought the coaches rewarded winning. :confusedshrug:

Bosh made it 5 times in Toronto, so it's not like they were rewarding winning in that instance either

[dubeta]

Bosh made it 5 times in Toronto, so it's not like they were rewarding winning in that instance either

:lebronamazed:

[JebronLames]

He's gonna win it this year! Great time to be alive!:dancin

[GrapeApe]

Not sure how Bosh made it over Love. I thought the coaches rewarded winning. :confusedshrug:

I think Bosh's comeback story may have played a role, but he is scoring more than Love on much better efficiency, is a better defender, and has a higher PER. The Heat are also a top 4 team in the conference so it's not as if Bosh is putting up empty stats on a bad team.

[Wiltside]

Artificial 1 all-star team. Kyrie was injured, Love was underutilized. Otherwise, they are true all-stars.

[bluechox2]

Artificial 1 all-star team. Kyrie was injured, Love was underutilized. Otherwise, they are true all-stars.
ironic love left the western conference so that he can get a whiff of allstardom...but still cant crack it in the east

[bdreason]

I think Bosh's comeback story may have played a role, but he is scoring more than Love on much better efficiency, is a better defender, and has a higher PER. The Heat are also a top 4 team in the conference so it's not as if Bosh is putting up empty stats on a bad team.


To be honest I didn't realize the Heat had climbed to the 4th spot. Last I checked they were 9th.

[bdreason]

Bosh made it 5 times in Toronto, so it's not like they were rewarding winning in that instance either


Bosh was a top 5-10 NBA player in Toronto. He's probably top 20-25 now.

[Straight_Ballin]

2/6

[SouBeachTalents]

Bosh was a top 5-10 NBA player in Toronto. He's probably top 20-25 now.

:biggums: Bosh was never even close to being a top 5 player in the league

[Smoke117]

Don't recall saying MJ had no help :biggums:

Throw as much stats around as you want, he DID NOT make the All Star game which OP is implying

Kyrie and Love playing at their best are All Stars, but because they didn't make the All Star game they're bums according to OP so :confusedshrug:

Yet he made the all star team the year before when he wasn't as good...that's how much the all star team matters.

[SouBeachTalents]

Yet he made the all star game the year before when he wasn't as good...that's how much the all star team matters.

'16 Kobe > '91 Pippen

[SpaceJam]

Yet he made the all star team the year before when he wasn't as good...that's how much the all star team matters.

Kyrie's made the all star team before, so has Love

You're taking this way too seriously :roll: :roll: :roll:

OP is a f^cking troll, you think I'd answer to any of his threads seriously

This isn't some 3ball bias where I'm trying to downplay Scottie Pippen, in case you're unaware I'm using OP's own logic, he asked how many 1 all-star teams have been considered contenders and I answered MJ has won it 'without' one, or has he not?

[dubeta]

Yet he made the all star team the year before when he wasn't as good...that's how much the all star team matters.

ether :roll: :roll:

[knicksman]

Op is like that loser that got dumped by his girlfriend and just pretending to be happy. To show the world that hes not affected but when hes alone, hes still crying over 2/6 and kobe/curry>>>bran.:lol

[stalkerforlife]

Op is like that loser that got dumped by his girlfriend and just pretending to be happy. To show the world that hes not affected but when hes alone, hes still crying over 2/6 and kobe/curry>>>bran.:lol

Great analogy.

The Branvestites use a lot of smiley faces to hide the pain they feel.

I feel bad for them.

[sportjames23]

What about Lebron in 2011 letting his teammates down?

http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmkjpwbjh01qh9wcto1_500.jpg

:lol

[Poetry]

he asked how many 1 all-star teams have been considered contenders and I answered MJ has won it 'without' one, or has he not?

MJ has done it at least twice. In 1997-98 he did it again with Pip averaging 16.8/7.1/5.2/2.1 on .415 from the field in the playoffs.

Still pretty good numbers IMO, but MJ was the only all-star that year for us.

[Lebron23]

I thought Love is better than Paul Millsap this year. The Good news is that Love and Irving are playing like all stars again under Coach Tyronn Lue.

[SpaceJam]

MJ has done it at least twice. In 1997-98 he did it again with Pip averaging 16.8/7.1/5.2/2.1 on .415 from the field in the playoffs.

Still pretty good numbers IMO, but MJ was the only all-star that year for us.

1991 stuck with me for some reason, must have been one of 3ball's essays where he mentioned it :oldlol:

Of course Scottie was absolutely necessary. Not trying to take anything away from that, but this is dubeta logic after all :facepalm

[knicksman]

Great analogy.

The Branvestites use a lot of smiley faces to hide the pain they feel.

I feel bad for them.

According to psychology, people who laugh at corny jokes are sad inside. And these bran stans are laughing at their corny jokes so they really must be hurting:lol

[jstern]

Probably many, but who's going to remember them unless they win the championship. Who's going to remember this Cav team in ten years unless they win the championship? Then someone else could start asking this question to pump up their current favorite player.

If you go back to 89 perhaps Jordan. Pippen wasn't an All Star 1991 and Jordan won. Perhaps 2000 Duncan. 2003 Duncan won the championship. Was a contender.

So you a player being the only All Start win the championship, and still have someone ask such a question 10+ years later.

[Lebron23]

According to psychology, people who laugh at corny jokes are sad inside. And these bran stans are laughing at their corny jokes so they really must be hurting:lol


Just look at yourself in the mirror.

[dhsilv]

2014 the spurs
2011 mavs
2007 runner up Cavs
2006 Mavs runner up
2005 Pistons runner up
2004 Pistons
2003 Spurs
2003 Nets Runner up
2002 Nets Runner up

Those are just teams in the finals. A lot more if you're just saying a contender. So 9 times 2000-current. It's actually common.

[MellowYellow]

this is kyrie and love's team. lebron is 3rd fiddle.

[choppermagic]

What about Lebron in 2011 letting his teammates down?

http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmkjpwbjh01qh9wcto1_500.jpg


According to the OP, then Lebron didnt play like an all star either so that team had 0 All stars in total. See how his mind works?

[BuffaloBill]

03 Spurs

[riseagainst]

And neither of those teammates played like all-stars in the 2012-2014 playoffs, but thats another story

they went from all star to what you label as "scrubs" right after joining with lebron. Seems to be a trend. Poor Kyrie and Kevin Love, franchise players reduced to D-Leaguers.

[Duffy Pratt]

75 Warrior won championship with Barry as only all star.

76 Suns lost chip with Alvin Adams as only all star.

77 Trailblazers won chip with Maurice Lucas as only all star.

78 Sonics won chip with NO all stars
78 Bullets lost with Elvin Hayes as only all star.

Do I have to go on?

[Straight_Ballin]

According to psychology, people who laugh at corny jokes are sad inside. And these bran stans are laughing at their corny jokes so they really must be hurting:lol

I refuse to stop pointing out their sad existences until they learn the error of their ways and start forming opinions like a normal contributing member of society.

[Mr. Jabbar]

All stars :lol

Franchise players is where its at, cavs have 3.

[houston]

2014 the spurs
2011 mavs
2007 runner up Cavs
2006 Mavs runner up
2005 Pistons runner up
2004 Pistons
2003 Spurs
2003 Nets Runner up
2002 Nets Runner up

Those are just teams in the finals. A lot more if you're just saying a contender. So 9 times 2000-current. It's actually common.


co sign


plus the players that was in rotation on those teams have made the all-star games before. No team wins championships without at least 2 all-star quality players playing vital roles on the team.

Really the 02 Nets the only team in history that made the Finals without no player on the roster that never made the all-star team.

[Duffy Pratt]

co sign


plus the players that was in rotation on those teams have made the all-star games before. No team wins championships without at least 2 all-star quality players playing vital roles on the team.

Really the 02 Nets the only team in history that made the Finals without no player on the roster that never made the all-star team.

I guess you mean none except Jason Kidd and Kmart.

[houston]

I guess you mean none except Jason Kidd and Kmart.


Kmart did make an all-star team I'm talking about the context of the years that they made their Finals runs. Usually it always a current all-star with another former all-star helping the team. But you right Mart did make an all-star team.

[TheMarkMadsen]

08 Lakers

[dhsilv]

Kmart did make an all-star team I'm talking about the context of the years that they made their Finals runs. Usually it always a current all-star with another former all-star helping the team. But you right Mart did make an all-star team.

Then you'd have to add the piston's title to that list. Only Wallace had been an allstar at that point.

[houston]

Then you'd have to add the piston's title to that list. Only Wallace had been an allstar at that point.


Rasheed Wallace was all-star b4 the title


94 rockets,03 Spurs,04 Pistons were practically built the same


Had all-nba,all-star,all-defense big getting supported by another all-star quality big with clutch role players.

[dhsilv]

Rasheed Wallace was all-star b4 the title


94 rockets,03 Spurs,04 Pistons were practically built the same


Had all-nba,all-star,all-defense big getting supported by another all-star quality big with clutch role players.

wow, not sure how i missed that one. Good call