Here's how Bran won his MVP awards...

[stalkerforlife]

Play in the weak east.

Stack up meaningless wins against teams like the current Sixers 4 times a season.

Be the best player on a team with zero chance to win a title, but has a lot of regular season wins.

At least Nash did it in the west.

All Bran has are meaningless MVP awards to save his legacy.

[dubeta]

http://oi66.tinypic.com/9ibe6f.jpg


^ This guy is trying to educate us about bball :lol :lol

[kennethgriffin]

i think lebrons a great player


but without colluding

without the east

without the era

without the refs

without ray allen

without the media



he'd be shawn kemp

[livinglegend]

i think lebrons a great player


but without colluding

without the east

without the era

without the refs

without ray allen

without the media



he'd be shawn kemp

Without Shaq, Gasol and refs, Kobe is JR Smith.

[stalkerforlife]

i think lebrons a great player


but without colluding

without the east

without the era

without the refs

without ray allen

without the media



he'd be shawn kemp

I have him in the Barkley and Dominique tier.

[LongLiveTheKing]

Play in the weak east.

Stack up meaningless wins against teams like the current Sixers 4 times a season.

Be the best player on a team with zero chance to win a title, but has a lot of regular season wins.

At least Nash did it in the west.

All Bran has are meaningless MVP awards to save his legacy.
I guess the Heat didn't win in '12 and '13. :cheers:

[kennethgriffin]

Without Shaq, Gasol and refs, Kobe is JR Smith.



no

without shaq he has 2 rings

without gasol he has 3 rings

without refs ( the one case i ever saw in 2002 ) he has 4 rings


jr smith has 0 rings



you cant combine gasol with shaq since theyre 2 completely different teams



would be like saying "what did lebron do without big Z/Shaq/Wade/Bosh/Kyrie/Love"


lol who can do anything when they spend their entire primes with them




i'm asking ... what did bran do without wade and bosh... thats just one lineup


please answer

[Smoke117]

Could lebron be any more inside your head, you ****ing maggot? why don't you make a video about it? Do us all a favor and kill yourself at the end of it too.

[stalkerforlife]

I guess the Heat didn't win in '12 and '13. :cheers:

Those don't count.

Stacking a team in a historically weak conference is irrelevant.

[stalkerforlife]

Could lebron be any more inside your head, you ****ing maggot? why don't you make a video about it? Do us all a favor and kill yourself at the end of it too.

Dude, when are you going to stop pretending to be a Heat/Wade fan? We get it, dude...you pretended so your opinions could seem more respectable when it came to Bran.

Let it go.

Join date 2011...Heat fan...Right...:lol

[livinglegend]

no

without shaq he has 2 rings

without gasol he has 3 rings

without refs ( the one case i ever saw in 2002 ) he has 4 rings


jr smith has 0 rings



you cant combine gasol with shaq since theyre 2 completely different teams



would be like saying "what did lebron do without big Z/Shaq/Wade/Bosh/Kyrie/Love"


lol who can do anything when they spend their entire primes with them




i'm asking ... what did bran do without wade and bosh... thats just one lineup


please answer

I said without Shaq, gasol, refs.

[Smoke117]

Do us all favor and get string up the noose already you maggot.

[kennethgriffin]

besides.. since when is gasol a "what did you do without him" player anyway

hes not even a top 50 player all time


hes a bottom 5 all time sidekick for a championship team

[kennethgriffin]

I said without Shaq, gasol, refs.


and i said since when is gasol a "what have you done without that guy" player


hes not great enough to be in that category


hes barely enough of a sidekick to get the job done in the first place


hes rated like 80+ all time on basketball-reference

[livinglegend]

and i said since when is gasol a "what have you done without that guy" player


hes not great enough to be in that category


hes barely enough of a sidekick to get the job done in the first place


hes rated like 80+ all time on basketball-reference

Since he outplayed kobe in the finals

[3ball]

http://s12.postimg.org/fiwmzsvn1/CIu6g_DI.jpg

[dubeta]

Since he outplayed kobe in the finals

:lebronamazed:


Kobe's never been the best player on a championship team and its hurting OP SO bad :lol :lol

[stalkerforlife]

http://s12.postimg.org/fiwmzsvn1/CIu6g_DI.jpg

Recipe for MVP awards.

[kennethgriffin]

Since he outplayed kobe in the finals


well according to my calculations


29/8/4 with finals mvp/toughest defensive assignments ( guarding pierce/allen ) leading playmaker/leading ball handler who SETS UP GASOL


outperformed

18/11/3 sidekick/easiest defensive assignments ( guarding broken KG and glen baby? )



need i remind you that everything gasol got was off initial draws from kobe attracting a double

gasol basically had a wide open top of the key flat footed jumper or he draw the secondary defender after the switch for an easy assist down low




everything gasol did flowed from kobe

[livinglegend]

well according to my calculations


29/8/4 with finals mvp/toughest defensive assignments ( guarding pierce/allen ) leading playmaker/leading ball handler who SETS UP GASOL


outperformed

18/11/3 sidekick/easiest defensive assignments ( guarding broken KG and glen baby? )



need i remind you that everything gasol got was off initial draws from kobe attracting a double

gasol basically had a wide open top of the key flat footed jumper or he draw the secondary defender after the switch for an easy assist down low




everything gasol did flowed from kobe

Not everything, but most of it.
Those bricks that he had to clean with his offensive rebounds flowed from Kobe.

[dubeta]

well according to my calculations


29/8/4 with finals mvp/toughest defensive assignments ( guarding pierce/allen ) leading playmaker/leading ball handler who SETS UP GASOL


outperformed

18/11/3 sidekick/easiest defensive assignments ( guarding broken KG and glen baby? )



need i remind you that everything gasol got was off initial draws from kobe attracting a double

gasol basically had a wide open top of the key flat footed jumper or he draw the secondary defender after the switch for an easy assist down low




everything gasol did flowed from kobe

FG% + Blocks?? :lol

[kennethgriffin]

Not everything, but most of it.
Those bricks that he had to clean with his offensive rebounds flowed from Kobe.


the funny thing is. even in an insult. you actually prove how correct i am


kobe has the entire defense of a team collapse on him at times. its actually kind of retarded.. if he misses the lakers have 2-3 guys to clean it up


i remember gasol and artest getting easy boards for clean up game winners one playoff run i think


thats the presence of kobe bryant... dude literally changes the entire game and it doesnt show up in the box score

[livinglegend]

the funny thing is. even in an insult. you actually prove how correct i am


kobe has the entire defense of a team collapse on him at times. its actually kind of retarded.. if he misses the lakers have 2-3 guys to clean it up


i remember gasol and artest getting easy boards for clean up game winners one playoff run i think


thats the presence of kobe bryant... dude literally changes the entire game and it doesnt show up in the box score

The entire defense collapsed because as soon as kobe got the ball, everyone ran for the rebound.

[kennethgriffin]

The entire defense collapsed because as soon as kobe got the ball, everyone ran for the rebound.


everyone on LA ran for the rebound

everyone on the other team ran at kobe thinking they could all block him or some shit


the coach probly told their teams to run at kobe to get the ball out of his hands and force someone else to beat them...


kobe knows this so he just says "**** it i'l take the shot. if i miss it we got an easy rebound anyway"


its amazing how something as simple as that turns up in the box score as a negative. when kobe just being on the floor made it basically a 100% sure bucket for LA

[livinglegend]

everyone on LA ran for the rebound

everyone on the other team ran at kobe thinking they could all block him or some shit


the coach probly told their teams to run at kobe to get the ball out of his hands and force someone else to beat them...


kobe knows this so he just says "**** it i'l take the shot. if i miss it we got an easy rebound anyway"


its amazing how something as simple as that turns up in the box score as a negative. when kobe just being on the floor made it basically a 100% sure bucket for LA

EVERYONE ran for the rebound.

[PP34Deuce]

Not many players in the league you can tell be a certain player and they borderline dominate.

Lebron is what I would call the Eraser. He erases deficiencies any team has.

That to me, is why he's perennially an MVP along with Kevin Durant. These guys are just able to do whatever you ask of them.

Lebron James with that Phoenix suns team out west would be a 4th seed.

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

I have him in the Barkley and Dominique tier.

dominique would have won more titles and awards if he colluded and played in a weak era or conference.

[kennethgriffin]

Not many players in the league you can tell be a certain player and they borderline dominate.

Lebron is what I would call the Eraser. He erases deficiencies any team has.

That to me, is why he's perennially an MVP along with Kevin Durant. These guys are just able to do whatever you ask of them.

Lebron James with that Phoenix suns team out west would be a 4th seed.


i think lebron caused his teams deficiencies in 2011 and 2016


just sayin

[TripleA]

dominique would have won more titles and awards if he colluded and played in a weak era or conference.
The stupidity in this forum.
:facepalm

[kennethgriffin]

The stupidty in this forum.
:facepalm



so youre saying 30/8/3/2 dominique wilkins with 2 other prime hall of famers wouldnt win any titles in lebrons era?

[24-Inch_Chrome]

http://s12.postimg.org/fiwmzsvn1/CIu6g_DI.jpg
You're right, Kobe > Jordan.

[TripleA]

I have him in the Barkley and Dominique tier.
Barkley is much better than Wilkins.
But the tier from Barkley to top 10 is small. So :cheers: :applause:

[stalkerforlife]

dominique would have won more titles and awards if he colluded and played in a weak era or conference.

Agreed.

Imagine him teaming up with Bird or Magic...

That's exactly what Bran did when he left his own team to join 2 other top 5 guys in PER and the 3rd best player in the league, Wade.

[kennethgriffin]

Barkley is much better than Wilkins.
But the tier from Barkley to top 10 is small. So :cheers: :applause:


not really



-top 10 above these guys
Oscar
West
Moses
Dr J
Mikan
Pettit
Havlicek
Dirk
Garnett
Karl
Robinson
- around here is where barkley is -

[kennethgriffin]

You're right, Kobe > Jordan.


kobes competition > jordans

yes

[BarberSchool]

Op's life:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OtdJMj3ga0

[miggyme1]

Play in the weak east.

Stack up meaningless wins against teams like the current Sixers 4 times a season.

Be the best player on a team with zero chance to win a title, but has a lot of regular season wins.

At least Nash did it in the west.

All Bran has are meaningless MVP awards to save his legacy.


to be fair though those suns teams underachieved. never once made it to the finals. hell only made it to the conference finals twice I think???? Kinda like those mavs teams....all those 60 win seasons and getting bounced in the first round or second.

[ShawkFactory]

Play in the weak east.

Stack up meaningless wins against teams like the current Sixers 4 times a season.

Be the best player on a team with zero chance to win a title, but has a lot of regular season wins.

At least Nash did it in the west.

All Bran has are meaningless MVP awards to save his legacy.
Couple things here I'd like to address (and I have no idea why):

First, when it comes to winning his MVPs, the him being in the east argument has already been debunked. In 09 his team went 26-4 against the west...and he had better numbers.

In the games he played in 2010 against the west, the Cavs were 23-6...and his numbers were better than against the east.

The Heat went 11-7 against the west in 2012, but Brons numbers were better across the board..again. This time pretty significantly.

In 2013, the Heat went 25-5 against the west. And you guessed it..Brons numbers were better pretty much across the board.

So which is it, the best player on the best team? The most dominant individual player?

Bron has won two as both.

Or is just "please god anyone but Lebron"? :lol

And I'm so glad you said the Cavs didn't have a shot at a title his first time around. Don't want to hear any more choke calls as it pertains to the series against Orlando and Boston.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Do us all favor and get string up the noose already you maggot.

You're somehow even more pathetic than OP is.

Do us all a favor: PM Jeff, ask him to deactivate your account, and quit posting here altogether. Your obsession with the OP and anything LeBron related has broached unhealthy levels.

[stalkerforlife]

You're somehow even more pathetic than OP is.

Do us all a favor: PM Jeff, ask him to deactivate your account, and quit posting here altogether. Your obsession with the OP and anything LeBron related has broached unhealthy levels.

He stalks me.

I feel sorry for the dude.

But I try to help him and others by coming forth with all my insecurities and downfalls; trying to teach them we don't have to take our pain out on others.

[Dro]

besides.. since when is gasol a "what did you do without him" player anyway

hes not even a top 50 player all time


hes a bottom 5 all time sidekick for a championship team
Gasol is currently putting up numbers at his age that have only been produced by Wilt. I swear, where do you dudes get your "facts" from?

[Kblaze8855]

He won MVP and the title in back to back seasons. Stop making BS topics.

[Bankaii]

Lebron has better stats against the West than he does the East.

Kobe has worse stats against the East than he does the West.

Lebron's scoring in the regular season, playoffs, and finals >> Kobe's.

How does conference play a role again?

[stalkerforlife]

He won MVP and the title in back to back seasons. Stop making BS topics.

:biggums:

On a team that colluded with superstars in their prime in the weakest conference in NBA history.

Who cares?!?

[AirBonner]

He won MVP and the title in back to back seasons. Stop making BS topics.
This. OP has wishful thinking instead of real topics.

[stalkerforlife]

Lebron has better stats against the West than he does the East.

Kobe has worse stats against the East than he does the West.

Lebron's scoring in the regular season, playoffs, and finals >> Kobe's.

How does conference play a role again?

Bran gets to save his energy for the west. Kobe used his energy playing in the west.

Let it sink in.

Bran is 2-4 against the west in the finals. And one Allen shot from being 1-5.

[Kblaze8855]

When you are making topics that have a verifiably false premise you deny because you disregard reality....its trolling. Just so you know in the future.

[stalkerforlife]

When you are making topics that have a verifiably false premise you deny because you disregard reality....its trolling. Just so you know in the future.

You don't want to go toe to toe with me.

[ShawkFactory]

Bran gets to save his energy for the west. Kobe used his energy playing in the west.

Let it sink in.

Bran is 2-4 against the west in the finals. And one Allen shot from being 1-5.
In 2012 AND 2013, the conference finals in the east went to 7 games. They played more games in the playoffs than both of the west representatives did in those respective years.

[AirBonner]

In 2012 AND 2013, the conference finals in the east went to 7 games. They played more games in the playoffs than both of the west representatives did in those respective years.
but in his mind LeBron only had to play 20 min and sat out the 4th quarter :lol

[Kblaze8855]

I dont have to go toe to toe with you and your nonsense. If I wanted you gone you would be. I dont tend to ban anyone. Which is why I explained the nature of my objection to your bullshit topic.

Hate on Lebron...or anyone...all you like. Dont make topics that are factually incorrect beyond all dispute just to spark fights. Thats pretty much the definition of trolling.

Hate is fine....long as it isnt as a matter of fact....beyond dispute...incorrect. Might as well make a topic saying Kobe only won titles when he played with another player who won MVP. 2009 and 2010 makes that factually incorrect. Making it BS just to start an argument that has no reason to be. Trolling.

If what you are saying is...in fact...wrong. Dont say it. Or at least make it funny. Do better than this.

[ShawkFactory]

but in his mind LeBron only had to play 20 min and sat out the 4th quarter :lol
Stat padding or conserving? Which is it?

[stalkerforlife]

I dont have to go toe to toe with you and your nonsense. If I wanted you gone you would be. I dont tend to ban anyone. Which is why I explained the nature of my objection to your bullshit topic.

Hate on Lebron...or anyone...all you like. Dont make topics that are factually incorrect beyond all dispute just to spark fights. Thats pretty much the definition of trolling.

Hate is fine....long as it isnt as a matter of fact....beyond dispute...incorrect. Might as well make a topic saying Kobe only won titles when he played with another player who won MVP. 2009 and 2010 makes that factually incorrect. Making it BS just to start an argument that has no reason to be. Trolling.

If what you are saying is...in fact...wrong. Dont say it. Or at least make it funny. Do better than this.

Phuck you.

[choppermagic]

I said without Shaq, gasol, refs.

LOL, Gasol is pumped up by Kobe-haters to an insane degree like he's a modern day Wilt or something. Gasol scored 10 points LESS than Kobe the entire 2010 Finals and crapped the bed on the road during that series.

And Kobe was still breaking scoring records without either of those two big men, including his 81 point bomb. As if JR Smith is going off for 81.

[Mr. Jabbar]

http://oi66.tinypic.com/9ibe6f.jpg


^ This guy is trying to educate us about bball :lol :lol

dubeta wishes he had an alpha pepperoni nipple like stalker. i'd follow a nipple like that anywhere

[stalkerforlife]

dubeta wishes he had an alpha pepperoni nipple like stalker. i'd follow a nipple like that anywhere

:roll:

[Gileraracer]

That's why Lebron is not top 20 all time

[Bankaii]

Bran gets to save his energy for the west. Kobe used his energy playing in the west.

Let it sink in.

Bran is 2-4 against the west in the finals. And one Allen shot from being 1-5.
Except for the fact that Lebron has BETTER stats than Kobe against BOTH the East AND West in the regular season, playoffs, and Finals.

What's your next excuse?

[warriorfan]

Except for the fact that Lebron has BETTER stats than Kobe against BOTH the East AND West in the regular season, playoffs, and Finals.

What's your next excuse?

stats arn't everything you autist

[Hey Yo]

http://s12.postimg.org/fiwmzsvn1/CIu6g_DI.jpg
LOL @ Magic playing in 9 finals, winning 5.....while only beating 13 fifty+ win teams in doing so

He's top 5 doe.... :oldlol:

[Bankaii]

stats arn't everything you autist
Your only argument for Curry being the best in the world are his stats.
Your only argument for Curry not being a shit defender is stats.
But they aren't relevant because this isn't your agenda right?:oldlol:

Let's look at impact, passing, playmaking, defense, being the better teammate, clutch, etc. Lebron is still better.

Even your name calling is shit. At least sign into one of your alts and post "meltdown" to make it look a little better.

[Hey Yo]

warriorfag can't front on that ^^^^

[warriorfan]

Your only argument for Curry being the best in the world are his stats.
Your only argument for Curry not being a shit defender is stats.
But they aren't relevant because this isn't your agenda right?:oldlol:

Let's look at impact, passing, playmaking, defense, being the better teammate, clutch, etc. Lebron is still better.

Even your name calling is shit. At least sign into one of your alts and post "meltdown" to make it look a little better.

:biggums:

[Hey Yo]

Like I said.... ^^^^

[AirBonner]

Your only argument for Curry being the best in the world are his stats.
Your only argument for Curry not being a shit defender is stats.
But they aren't relevant because this isn't your agenda right?:oldlol:

Let's look at impact, passing, playmaking, defense, being the better teammate, clutch, etc. Lebron is still better.

Even your name calling is shit. At least sign into one of your alts and post "meltdown" to make it look a little better.
/Body bagged :applause: