IRAN before 1979: ISH muslims swear by Khomeini, but why??

[poido123]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF47rrHd7wo


It's sad to see the freedoms of democracy disappear for a religious nut to destroy it all.


RIP The Progressive Iran

[Patrick Chewing]

Those girls at 3:50 :applause:



Iran must bring this era back. Death to Religious Tyrants!

[NumberSix]

Just like they're doing now, the Marxists sided with the Islamists. When the Islamists took over, they killed the Marxists.

[FKAri]

A dictatorship that bent over for America. That era sucked too. Modern Iran just needs to get rid of the religious leader position and have open elections.

[Patrick Chewing]

A dictatorship that bent over for America. That era sucked too. Modern Iran just needs to get rid of the religious leader position and have open elections.


Democracy?? That's the Devil's work!

[poido123]

A dictatorship that bent over for America. That era sucked too. Modern Iran just needs to get rid of the religious leader position and have open elections.


What is it exactly that you didn't like about that old era?


Are you anti-democracy?

[FillJackson]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF47rrHd7wo


It's sad to see the freedoms of democracy disappear for a religious nut to destroy it all.


RIP The Progressive Iran
A. I don't think you know what progressive means.

B. When have ISH folks praised Khomeini?

[poido123]

A. I don't think you know what progressive means.

B. When have ISH folks praised Khomeini?


a. I think you don't.


b. Imdaman, Jeffersonmoney and possibly others support Ayatollah Khomeini. It was mentioned i another thread.

[ThePhantomCreep]

By propping up the Shah of Iran for 30+ years, we created enemies throughout the region, and for what?

Why did we use Iran (majority Shia Muslim) to contain the Gulf region the first place? Why not prop up a majority Sunni nation? :facepalm

Let's just put the Middle East on ignore, please.

[Patrick Chewing]

Let's just put the Middle East on ignore, please.


It's the 21st century. The lopping off of heads by ISIS cannot go ignored as it could have in the 60's and 70's. The more they kill, the more the public sees it, the more the outcry to do something about it.


Barbarism like ISIS should really not be around in this day and age. The entire world should be sending troops in to cut the head off the snake.

[BoutPractice]

It's interesting to note that Iran's political system is potentially the closest in the region to becoming a sort of constitutional republic (whether or not you think it would be a good outcome).

This means reform could potentially be achieved within current institutions (think of the UK's gradual change from monarchy to parliamentarism).

Remove the theocratic elements by emptying the powers of the Supreme Leader of their substance (for instance if the Guardian Council approving candidacies starts becoming more of a formality), and Iran is a country with a constitution, a complex separation of powers, a parliament and a president elected through universal suffrage, a conservative and a reformist party, a supreme court etc. There are several institutions competing for political power, each with their own source of legitimacy, mostly without violence.

Strong institutions are in place should Iran decide to go on a more pluralist path... this is very different from other theocratic countries, where the alternative to oppression often seems to be secular dictatorship or chaos.

Of course, this alternative is still an unlikely path, even for Iran. But it's a conceivable path nonetheless.

[Rooster]

By propping up the Shah of Iran for 30+ years, we created enemies throughout the region, and for what?

Why did we use Iran (majority Shia Muslim) to contain the Gulf region the first place? Why not prop up a majority Sunni nation? :facepalm

Let's just put the Middle East on ignore, please.

I don't think we really care about their religious conflicts. Iran have enough oil for our interest and important aspect in our Middle East policy to protect the flow of oil in that region. We already running the Sunnis Saudi oil.

I think we created enemies because we are also backing Israel no matter what.

[Rooster]

It's the 21st century. The lopping off of heads by ISIS cannot go ignored as it could have in the 60's and 70's. The more they kill, the more the public sees it, the more the outcry to do something about it.


Barbarism like ISIS should really not be around in this day and age. The entire world should be sending troops in to cut the head off the snake.

How can we get rid of them when we secretly share the common interest to take out Assad. We also want to prolong the war and keep supplying weapons and while Syria busy with the war, Israel is slow taking over Golan Heights.

[DonDadda59]

President Rouhani seems to be relatively more moderate than his predecessors. He wants to open up Iran to the international community. He managed to get the economic sanctions lifted and spent the past few weeks travelling all over Europe, securing multi-billion dollar deals with countries like France and Italy. As a result, Iran is set to experience an economic boom the next few years. They went from contracting by almost 6% in 2013 to potentially growing by 8% through 2021 (http://www.arabianbusiness.com/iran-s-economy-could-average-8-growth-2021-post-sanctions--619396.html).

Many Republicans in Congress have pledged to vote for new sanctions and many of the Presidential candidates have pledged to tear up the Nuclear Pact if elected.

[INDENT][B][U]Hassan Rouhani, Iran

[knickballer]

Iran's political establishment is conservative. However, the population aren't as conservative as Western Media and Iran skeptics make them out to be. Yes, there may be alot of rules and restrictions on every day life but alot of it just gets ignored and authorities turn a blind eye. IIRC, Tehran has the most plastic surgeries done in the world per capita. There's alot of Western influence in the country especially in the capital/urban areas.

Imo, if Iran was allied with the United States then most people would be singing an opposite tune on how liberal Iran is and what not. For example, no one really lashes out about Saudi Arabia and their 9th century ideology but that's because they're considered America's top ally in the region after Israel.