How would we view guys like Dominique and Barkley had they colluded to join...

[stalkerforlife]

Guys like Bird, Magic, Hakeem, etc?

When Bran colluded with Wade, Wade was a top 3 player in the world. Bosh was top 5 in PER the previous season. All three of them were top 5 in PER the previous season.

If guys like Dominique and Barkley teamed up with fellow top 5 players in the world, they'd inevitably win titles.

I think they'd move up the GOAT list considerably.

[kennethgriffin]

to be fair.. barkley colluded and ring chased his whole life


dude just didnt play defense and was lazy. caused allot of chemistry problems



dominique would have done great though

[stalkerforlife]

to be fair.. barkley colluded and ring chased his whole life


dude just didnt play defense and was lazy. caused allot of chemistry problems



dominique would have done great though

When did Barkley collude with a fellow top 3 player and a fellow top 10 player?

[kennethgriffin]

When did Barkley collude with a fellow top 3 player and a fellow top 10 player?



i think he had it for one year in 1997 in houston



hakeem 23/9/3/2/2 on 50%/30%/80%
drexler 18/6/6/2/1 on 44%/36%/75%


barkley added 19/14/5/1 on 48%/28%/69%



if barkley was ever to win a ring it shoulda been the colluded 97 rockets

[miggyme1]

Guys like Bird, Magic, Hakeem, etc?

When Bran colluded with Wade, Wade was a top 3 player in the world. Bosh was top 5 in PER the previous season. All three of them were top 5 in PER the previous season.

If guys like Dominique and Barkley teamed up with fellow top 5 players in the world, they'd inevitably win titles.

I think they'd move up the GOAT list considerably.


per means nothing. tired of repeating that. its a glorified stat.

wade top 3 player in 2010?????? smh...im done

[swagga]

per means nothing. tired of repeating that. its a glorified stat.

wade top 3 player in 2010?????? smh...im done

this fagqot right here :oldlol:
wade was 1b to lebron's 1a in 2010.

[Dro]

i think he had it for one year in 1997 in houston



hakeem 23/9/3/2/2 on 50%/30%/80%
drexler 18/6/6/2/1 on 44%/36%/75%


barkley added 19/14/5/1 on 48%/28%/69%



if barkley was ever to win a ring it shoulda been the colluded 97 rockets
You serious with this? I'm sure you know this has pointed out a million times but you do know those guys were like 100 years old and way past their primes correct? Hardly the same thing.

[3ball]

i think he had it for one year in 1997 in houston



hakeem 23/9/3/2/2 on 50%/30%/80%
drexler 18/6/6/2/1 on 44%/36%/75%


barkley added 19/14/5/1 on 48%/28%/69%



if barkley was ever to win a ring it shoulda been the colluded 97 rockets
Hakeem and Drexler were far lesser players by then - they had no quickness left.

now if Barkley teamed up with these two in their prime like Lebron did Wade/Bosh, then you'd have something.

[miggyme1]

this fagqot right here :oldlol:
wade was 1b to lebron's 1a in 2010.


and that makes wade top 3 in the league???? kyrie is 1b to LeBron now....guess he is top 3 as well...sit down you just got OWNED idiot.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

and that makes wade top 3 in the league???? kyrie is 1b to LeBron now....guess he is top 3 as well...sit down you just got OWNED idiot.

Only Kobe, LeBron and Dwight could be objectively argued over Wade that season.

Dude was a top 4 player at the very LEAST. Get real.

[miggyme1]

Only Kobe, LeBron and Dwight could be objectively argued over Wade that season.

Dude was a top 4 player at the very LEAST. Get real.


AGAIN.......WADE a top 3 player in 2010?????? IM DONE.

[stalkerforlife]

i think he had it for one year in 1997 in houston



hakeem 23/9/3/2/2 on 50%/30%/80%
drexler 18/6/6/2/1 on 44%/36%/75%


barkley added 19/14/5/1 on 48%/28%/69%



if barkley was ever to win a ring it shoulda been the colluded 97 rockets

Barkley was old, dude.

Completely different than colluding with stars in their primes.

I don't get your comparison.

[Dr Hawk]

AGAIN.......WADE a top 3 player in 2010?????? IM DONE.

Not Top 3, but Top 2.

1. Lebron
2. Wade

[stalkerforlife]

AGAIN.......WADE a top 3 player in 2010?????? IM DONE.

You're serious? :lol 27, 7, and 5 on 48%.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

AGAIN.......WADE a top 3 player in 2010?????? IM DONE.

Why not?

Guy had some of the best on/off numbers and impacted games greater than any SG in the league. Just look at his adjusted +/-. 2010 Wade carried a mediocre team AT BEST to the postseason, while dominating Boston (arguably the best defensive team and an NBA finalist) like no other player at that time.

[miggyme1]

You're serious? :lol 27, 7, and 5 on 48%.


that's 2009-2010 stats first of all..we talking about the 2010-2011 season.
and here are the people who were better than wade that season of course you bums are gonna whine but you cant refute FACTS.

CP3
DURANT
LEBRON
HOWARD
KOBE


TOP 10? HELL YES
TOP 3???? **** NO

GOOD EVENING

[Wade's Rings]

Why not?

Guy had some of the best on/off numbers and impacted games greater than any SG in the league. Just look at his adjusted +/-. 2010 Wade carried a mediocre team AT BEST to the postseason, while dominating Boston (arguably the best defensive team and an NBA finalist) like no other player at that time.

I find it wierd how his '10 RPM was much better than his '09 RPM. I have seen someone on here argue '10 Wade was better than '09 Wade.

[Wiltside]

When did Barkley collude with a fellow top 3 player and a fellow top 10 player?
Just making it specific rankings does not detract that he chased a ring in Houston with Hakeem and Clyde.

[stalkerforlife]

Just making it specific rankings does not detract that he chased a ring in Houston with Hakeem and Clyde.

He was old and washed up.

Bad, bad comparison.

[SouBeachTalents]

'10 Bosh is the most overrated player in sports history. To even compare him to the likes of Barkley or Dominique is an insult. Bosh in 2010, nice numbers, but missed the playoffs in the East, had a losing record and didn't even make All-NBA 3rd Team. People act like he was in the KG/Dirk tier of PF's when he was much closer to Elton Brand.

[stalkerforlife]

'10 Bosh is the most overrated player in sports history. To even compare him to the likes of Barkley or Dominique is an insult. Bosh in 2010, nice numbers, but missed the playoffs in the East, had a losing record and didn't even make All-NBA 3rd Team. People act like he was in the KG/Dirk tier of PF's when he was much closer to Elton Brand.

Convenient for your agenda to ignore Bosh's greatness and his lack of help.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I find it wierd how his '10 RPM was much better than his '09 RPM. I have seen someone on here argue '10 Wade was better than '09 Wade.

I wouldn't draw too many parallels given the fact ENTIRE teams change season to season. Then you have injuries to account for, so it can get hairy.

RPM works best within a years frame, and when players have similar minutes/roles played.

FWIW though, he also had a better playoffs in 2010 than the season prior. For a large chunk of the regular-season I actually thought Kobe was better BUT Wade just conserved energy so that he could go all out in the playoffs...and we saw what he did to Boston. :eek:

[Wiltside]

He was old and washed up.

Bad, bad comparison.
Somebody posted the stats of the 3 guys, they were all still great players. Rockets had just recently come off of back to back championships as well.

[miggyme1]

Somebody posted the stats of the 3 guys, they were all still great players. Rockets had just recently come off of back to back championships as well.


rockets went back to back in 94-95. barkley joined them in the 96-97 season. barkley was 33,olajuwan was 33 and clyde was 34. all old as ****. end thread

[ClipperRevival]

Yes, the Rockets team of Barkley, Drexler and Hakeem were WAY past their primes.

[Straight_Ballin]

per means nothing. tired of repeating that. its a glorified stat.

wade top 3 player in 2010?????? smh...im done

Stop eating human feces for once in your life and realize that wade was a top 5 player in the league in 2010. Look at his PPG the year before the collusion.

Bran is a disgrace because despite teaming up with all that talent, he only won 2 rings and Jason Terry made him his b!tch.

[senelcoolidge]

If they colluded than I would probably lose respect for them and especially when they played at a time when guys had pride. Stars liked to make teams their own, not team up, at least not in their primes.

[kennethgriffin]

You serious with this? I'm sure you know this has pointed out a million times but you do know those guys were like 100 years old and way past their primes correct? Hardly the same thing.


hakeem and drexler won a title in 95 and theyre 100 years old by 97?



not bad for 98 year olds then i guess



btw in 1997 hakeem was 1st team all nba
drexler and barkley were allstars


:hammerhead:

[feyki]

AGAIN.......WADE a top 3 player in 2010?????? IM DONE.

Of course . He was top 3 at least .

Wade averaged 33 points with %65 TS against Celtics . Lebron just had 26 with %55 TS against Celtics . He was clearly better than Lebron at 2010 .

[houston]

great player want to play with great players that always been the case in NBA history

[Hey Yo]

Of course . He was top 3 at least .

Wade averaged 33 points with %65 TS against Celtics . Lebron just had 26 with %55 TS against Celtics . He was clearly better than Lebron at 2010 .
Miami went down 0-3 in the series with one blowout loss to where Cleveland and Boston traded blowout wins to a 2-2 series tie.

Both series couldn't have been more the opposite when it comes to Boston prioritizing their level of defense played.

[feyki]

Miami went down 0-3 in the series with one blowout loss to where Cleveland and Boston traded blowout wins to a 2-2 series tie.

Both series couldn't have been more the opposite when it comes to Boston prioritizing their level of defense played.

Cavs were more stacked :confusedshrug:

[jstern]

If they would have won rings, they would be viewed higher on the all time list. Very simple.

[Gileraracer]

Exactly this is the reason why Lebron is not top 10 all time

[miggyme1]

Of course . He was top 3 at least .

Wade averaged 33 points with %65 TS against Celtics . Lebron just had 26 with %55 TS against Celtics . He was clearly better than Lebron at 2010 .


yep better than LeBron yet the heat were a first round exit the year before. you lose

[feyki]

yep better than LeBron yet the heat were a first round exit the year before. you lose

:facepalm Damn ..

[Wade's Rings]

I wouldn't draw too many parallels given the fact ENTIRE teams change season to season. Then you have injuries to account for, so it can get hairy.

RPM works best within a years frame, and when players have similar minutes/roles played.

FWIW though, he also had a better playoffs in 2010 than the season prior. For a large chunk of the regular-season I actually thought Kobe was better BUT Wade just conserved energy so that he could go all out in the playoffs...and we saw what he did to Boston. :eek:

He played less minutes in the '10 Season than the year before and he really turned it up post All-Star Break. Was dominating during our late Season win streak.

[Wade's Rings]

Miami went down 0-3 in the series with one blowout loss to where Cleveland and Boston traded blowout wins to a 2-2 series tie.

Both series couldn't have been more the opposite when it comes to Boston prioritizing their level of defense played.

The Heat were a much worse team. Could you imagine if Wade shot 34% with 6 Turnovers a Game to end that series like Bron did?

[miggyme1]

The Heat were a much worse team. Could you imagine if Wade shot 34% with 6 Turnovers a Game to end that series like Bron did?


??????????????????????? does it matter both teams still lost.....heat in the first round......and cavs in the second right? who cares is wade had of averaged that..hell he played damn well and still only won one damn game. And that heat team wasn't that bad hell they were the 5th seed. played great defense they just lacked scoring

[Hey Yo]

The Heat were a much worse team. Could you imagine if Wade shot 34% with 6 Turnovers a Game to end that series like Bron did?
I never said or implied that both teams were equal. Just stated that the circumstances in both series let Boston play less defense against Miami than against the Cavs.

[dubeta]

I'd still view them more favourably than the Kobe-Dwight-Nash collusion

[Dro]

Just making it specific rankings does not detract that he chased a ring in Houston with Hakeem and Clyde.
How is that ring chasing? MANY players once they get older try to go to a better team and finally win a ring. There is NOTHING wrong with what Barkley did. Its not different than Ray Allen following Lebron everywhere. Its no different than David West leaving all that money on the table and going to the Spurs because he wanted to win. Sure, he's not Barkley's level but its the same thing..

All you dudes do is hate on players that you don't like for whatever reason. I'm not accusing YOU of this, I'm just saying.

If Barkley ring chased, then so did plenty other vets. If he had left Philly in his prime or before he went to Phoenix and tried to play with MJ, or Iverson, whoever, you can MAYBE call that ring chasing, its sill not colluding. Its not like he called up Hakeem and Clyde and was like, hey lets play together. If he did, I'm not aware and its still not the same because ALL of them were past their primes. You guys are reaching.