Kareem on Steph: "he is on a different plane from all the guys that I played against"

[SyRyanYang]

Game recognizes game. Full quote.

The reason that young kids today don’t learn how to shoot hook shots is because everybody is so enamored with the three-point shot. So the kids, they don’t want two points. They don’t want to work with their back to the basket. That’s not cool. They want to go out there in the stratosphere and shoot three-pointers.

I didn’t think that that worked. For the longest time, that did not work as solid basketball strategy. But now when we have a time — when you have people like Stephen Curry, who can shoot the ball, he can — I’ve never seen anybody shoot like that. I’ll give you an explanation.

They showed Stephan shooting 100 three-point shots in practice. He made 92 out of 100 from the three-point arc, including 77 in a row. This is just practicing. Anybody that can shoot like that is on a different plane from all the guys that I played against, and the people that I saw when I first started watching the game in 1960. I never seen anybody shoot the ball like that.

If that is the coming talent level of NBA players, they’re going to be forgetting a lot about the guys that played in my era and the earlier eras of the NBA because the talent level of the guys playing now has really risen.

But they’re not teaching the kids how to score in the paint with their back to the basket, and, therefore, a lot of them don’t get to learn the hook shot, and they don’t get to realize that if you get close to the basket, a lot more of your shots will go in. They don’t seem to understand that.

That was the first thing that I learned, and so I worked on that hook shot and learned how to get positioned close to the basket where I can get my hook shot off.

[Wiltside]

Translation: KAJ thinks Steph will pass Magic.

[SpaceJam]

Obviously not on this plane

http://basementrejects.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/airplane-cockpit-oveur-roger-victor-over-peter-graves-kareem-abdul-jabbar-frank-ashmore.jpg

[jongib369]

Translation: KAJ thinks Steph will pass Magic.
Currys per36 PRF is now 20th on my list(if correct) (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=396741) , Though it's a TIGHT race so I'm not taking him down. He's up there with the biggest names in the game

28th on his current minutes.


Any names with an * next to it is adjusted for assists that led to a 3 per game.

PRF= Points+points from assists.

None of the 'totals include FGA or FG%

Bird 87 PRF-43.3 -- FG%.525 (20.2 FGA)
Blocks- 0.9
Steals-1.8
Rebounds-9.2
Fouled-6.1
Free Throws made-5.6

(Total 1 all. Total 2 without FTA. Total 3 without any free throw data.
Total 1=66.9
Total 2=60.8
Total 3=55.2


Magic 87 PRF- 48.3 -- FG%.525 (16.4 FGA)
Blocks- 0.5
Steals-1.7
Rebounds-6.3
Fouled-7.9
Free Throws made-6.7

(Total 1 all. Total 2 without FTA. Total 3 without any free throw data.
Total 1=71.4
Total 2=63.5
Total 3=56.8

*Curry 16 per 36 PRF- 47.03 FG% .506 (20.6 FGA)
Blocks- 0.2
Steals-2.3
Rebounds- 5.6
Free throws attempted-5.9
Free Throws made- 5.4

1.17
**Per 36**
(Total 1 all. Total 2 without FTA. Total 3 without any free throw data. None of the 'totals include FGA or FG%)
Total 1=66.43
Total 2=60.53
Total 3= 55.13

These per 36 stats are even for magic who actually played that amount, and 4 minutes less than Bird. So even with per36 as great as it is, so far viewed this way this season isn't as good as 87 Magics. Though close, and incredible.

For the PRF stat Curry gets 6.39 points from Assists to 3s, 8.74 points on 2s

From 3's he assists, and 3's he MAKES it's a total of 21.69 PPG :roll:

:bowdown:

[Jameerthefear]

Currys per36 PRF is now 20th on my list(if correct) (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=396741) , Though it's a TIGHT race so I'm not taking him down. He's up there with the biggest names in the game

28th on his current minutes.



*Curry 16 per 36 PRF- 47.03 FG% .506 (20.6 FGA)
Blocks- 0.2
Steals-2.3
Rebounds- 5.6
Free throws attempted-5.9
Free Throws made- 5.4

1.17
**Per 36**
(Total 1 all. Total 2 without FTA. Total 3 without any free throw data. None of the 'totals include FGA or FG%)
Total 1=66.43
Total 2=60.53
Total 3= 55.13

These per 36 stats are even for magic who actually played that amount, and 4 minutes less than Bird. So even with per36 as great as it is, so far viewed this way this season isn't as good as 87 Magics. Though close, and incredible.

For the PRF stat Curry gets 6.39 points from Assists to 3s, 8.74 points on 2s

From 3's he assists, and 3's he MAKES it's a total of 21.69 PPG :roll:

:bowdown:
Do you really think a bullshit stat you pulled out of your ass means jackshit?

[LAZERUSS]

Curry is on a different plane...and in a different era.

BTW, do you think that Curry would have been shooting 30+ foot shots, and in an era in which all FGMs were worth two points?

[warriorfan]

Currys per36 PRF is now 20th on my list(if correct) (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=396741) , Though it's a TIGHT race so I'm not taking him down. He's up there with the biggest names in the game

28th on his current minutes.



*Curry 16 per 36 PRF- 47.03 FG% .506 (20.6 FGA)
Blocks- 0.2
Steals-2.3
Rebounds- 5.6
Free throws attempted-5.9
Free Throws made- 5.4

1.17
**Per 36**
(Total 1 all. Total 2 without FTA. Total 3 without any free throw data. None of the 'totals include FGA or FG%)
Total 1=66.43
Total 2=60.53
Total 3= 55.13

These per 36 stats are even for magic who actually played that amount, and 4 minutes less than Bird. So even with per36 as great as it is, so far viewed this way this season isn't as good as 87 Magics. Though close, and incredible.

For the PRF stat Curry gets 6.39 points from Assists to 3s, 8.74 points on 2s

From 3's he assists, and 3's he MAKES it's a total of 21.69 PPG :roll:

:bowdown:

reported for spamming in multiple threads

[jongib369]

Do you really think a bullshit stat you pulled out of your ass means jackshit?
So to you his Points per game, and the amount of points scored off his assists means nothing? I even adjusted it to 3's from his assists..It's literally adding the impact of some of the most important stats in the game :lol

Then even with other stats added, he's got a higher total than arguably Larry Birds best season, playing 4 minutes less per game.

This stat helps Currys legacy, don't get your panties in a bunch because it doesn't have him as number one

[jongib369]

reported for spamming in multiple threads
What I said, with his "new approach" to the game literally proves how impactful Curry has been

Curry stans on full meltdown because a stat shows he's having a season with slightly more impact than Birds best season on less minutes

https://media.giphy.com/media/tkvD32sUDfBD2/giphy.gif

Are you sad because I didn't mention true shooting %? As amazing as it is he's still giving you/averaging less free throws per game than what other guys are at a lesser%...Big deal, this still shows he's a monster

[Akhenaten]

Do you really think a bullshit stat you pulled out of your ass means jackshit?

The "advanced stats" you guys venerate on here (vorp, ts% etc) are all "pulled out of someone's ass".

[La Frescobaldi]

Curry is on a different plane...and in a different era.

BTW, do you think that Curry would have been shooting 30+ foot shots, and in an era in which all FGMs were worth two points?

he woulda played in the ABA.

but yes, he would have dropped them from 30 feet. Jerry Lucas was doing 27 footers, Sam Jones, several guys really didn't mind hoisting it from down town. If they went in like he is doing -and they would - absolutely he'd be bombing.

nobody ever saw shooting like that afaik and here is Kareem saying the same thing from a lot better knowledge than this old gray head

[DCL]

chris mullin said steph curry was "100% the best shooter of all time."

[LAZERUSS]

he woulda played in the ABA.

but yes, he would have dropped them from 30 feet. Jerry Lucas was doing 27 footers, Sam Jones, several guys really didn't mind hoisting it from down town. If they went in like he is doing -and they would - absolutely he'd be bombing.

nobody ever saw shooting like that afaik and here is Kareem saying the same thing from a lot better knowledge than this old gray head

No doubt, the best pure shooter, with the best handles that I have ever seen.

:cheers:

[LAKingKobe]

This is true. Modern basketball is more complex and stronger than any other previous era.

[inclinerator]

if lebron beat this warriors team = automatic goat

[Kblaze8855]

I dont think that Steph being on or near a level of his own as a shooter is something too many are gonna dispute. Of the few who could shoot like him.....none of them could do it off the dribble, off balance, or from as far on a regular basis. Its like hes playing a different game entirely at times. Hes redefined what a good shot is.

He takes 6-7 shots a game that might get an all star chewed out as recently as like....2005.

[DirkNowitzki41]

says "dirk is a one-trick pony"

then goes on to say "steph is on a different plane"

:roll: old man has lost his mind

[Dro]

Curry is on a different plane...and in a different era.

BTW, do you think that Curry would have been shooting 30+ foot shots, and in an era in which all FGMs were worth two points?
No, that would be retarded. But that doesn't take away from his shooting ability. He plays in today's era. Its not his fault but a guy who can shoot like that, I don't care what era he plays in. If there's no 3's then imagine what he would be shooting from 2 point range. He shoots over 50% now. Now normally you may say his percentage would drop with him taking way more 2 pointers but I think he shoots so well, it wouldn't really matter.

[Optimus Prime]

Kareem...plane?

http://images.starpulse.com/news/bloggers/6/blog_images/kareem-abdul-jabbar-remembers-leslie-nielsen.jpg