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[HOoopCityJones]

http://www.nba.com/kobe-tribute

The NBA even knows Kobe is a Top 8-10 Goat in their league's History. You don't throw this kind of going away party for the 12th best guy of all time, lol. :cheers:

Lebron Stanley's can only pray they roll out this kind of red carpet for Collusion Era's 2 for 7. :lol

[pastis]

from clutchfans.com. 9-12 seems legit to me. but what do you think about this statement?





He's the weirdest player to discuss on the list. You have his fans who believe with all their little hearts that Kobe is either the greatest or just a bit behind MJ. I just don't understand their view. Then there are so many who have him ranked 5-10. 5-8 is still too high for him IMO, but 9-12 is okay with me and i wouldn't argue with someone who has him placed 12-20.

I feel like personally Kobe is more of a Dominique Wilkins of the 2000's but was on much better teams in a larger market. Kobe was a better ball handler, passer, and had more range, but most importantly is that they are both known as scorers and when you measure their scoring, they are virtually the same. "Closest to Jordan" doesn't mean he was as good as Jordan. It just means he copied his mid range and post up game..and manner of speech...and walk..and attitude...and personality. That's what closest to Jordan actually means. But, as time goes on, kids who never watched Jordan will really believe Kobe is #2 all time because they hear Kobe was closest to Jordan so it is only logical to say he's the 2nd greatest of all time.

I browse through the Espn rankings on facebook and so many comments are about Kobe fans flipping their **** that he's at 12 and not top 3 and also that LeBron is ahead of Kobe. Their main argument is always 5 rings. Why is it that Kobe is given equal weight to his 5 rings? No one argues Havlicek has 8 rings. Why does Kobe who has 5 rings, 3 of which were obviously as a 2nd option have that as a main argument over someone like LeBron? To me it's basically 2 to 2 as the main guy, except Pau Gasol could very realistically won at least 1 of those FMVP awards instead of Kobe. It's basically almost being brushed aside and forgotten just how dominant Shaq was. This wasn't a Kareem and Magic thing where both had incredible numbers alongside each other. No.
This was Shaq 38, 17 with 3 blocks next to Kobe's 15.6 on 36.7%fg , 4.6 and 4.2 against the Pacers. #'s replaced by any starter quality guard and they still would have won.
This was Shaqs 33ppg, 16rpg, 5apg, 3.4bpg to Kobes 24.6ppg on 41%, 7.8, 5.8 against the Sixers. Numbers easily replaced by any other all star guard next to Shaq.
This was 36, 12, 4 and 3 to Kobes nice 26.8 on 51%, 5.8, 5.3 against the Nets. His best finals performance, but honestly replaceable with any superstar guard like Harden and they still win. They still win any of these finals series because of how dominant Shaq was.

But....5 rings right? Weak opponents and so much controversy throughout their dynasty. The Kings should have a championship. They were cheated

[Mr Feeny]

from clutchfans.com

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[Gus Hemmingway]

The Kobe fam in full self-destruct mode :roll: :roll: :roll:


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[Mr Feeny]

The Kobe fam in full self-destruct mode :roll: :roll: :roll:


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Gus Hemmingway is a genius! :bowdown:

[SpaceJam]

from clutchfans.com. 9-12 seems legit to me. but what do you think about this statement?

Interesting take, couple things though

'I feel like personally Kobe is more of a Dominique Wilkins of the 2000's but was on much better teams in a larger market. Kobe was a better ball handler, passer, and had more range'

I don't really see how someone can be 'more of a Dominique Wilkins of the 2000s' but then be a better ball handler, passer, more range, essentially making him better then Wilkins

Also the weak opponents is a terrible reasoning, cause we gonna act like a player such as Duncan faced much better? The east of the 2000s was TRASH

1998-1999 - Barely .500 Knicks team
2002-2003 - Essentially the same Nets team as the Lakers
2004-2005 - Reigning championship Pistons (not weak)
2006-2007 - LeBron James and his 'scrub cast'
2013-2014 - Big 3 Miami (not weak at all)

[Gus Hemmingway]

And LOL @ "throwing" Kobe going away parties.


Kobe pulled a "Look at me it's my Sweet 16" attention whoring announcement just like those snobby MTV girls do, his pathetic "invite" card to bring all eyes on him.

"I DO WHAT I WANT! 25m PAYROLL, 30+ SHOTS A GAME, IT'S MY PARTY!" :cry: :lol


Long live great legends ala Dirk, Ginob, Duncan, Garnett, etc who will humbly retire and go out gracefully with the wind unannounced. As did many other HOF's :bowdown:


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[Mr Feeny]

And LOL @ "throwing" Kobe going away parties.


Kobe pulled a "Look at me it's my Sweet 16" attention whoring announcement just like those snobby MTV girls do, his pathetic "invite" card to bring all eyes on him. :lol


Long live great legends ala Dirk, Ginob, Duncan, Garnett, etc who will humbly retire and go out gracefully with the wind unannounced. As did many other HOF's :bowdown:

That's because u like them he's headed straight to the lottery :cry: he needs some attention:lol

[warriorfan]

from clutchfans.com. 9-12 seems legit to me. but what do you think about this statement?

I stopped reading after he dropped wilkin's name

anyone comparing kobe bryant to dominique wilkins is on some autistic shit

[Doranku]

from clutchfans.com. 9-12 seems legit to me. but what do you think about this statement?

I think it's completely disingenuous that the author acts like the finals were the only series' played during the 3-peat when the Lakers faced much better competition in the West. Teams like the Blazers, Kings, and Spurs were all better than what they faced in the finals, and Kobe was anywhere from good to phenomenal against those teams.

The notion that you could just replace Kobe with any contemporary all-star guard and still end up with a threepeat is laughable. MAYBE a healthy '00-'02 TMac could have been enough, but with his track record, there's no way his body would've held up for three consecutive championship runs.

[Nash]

http://www.nba.com/kobe-tribute

The NBA even knows Kobe is a Top 8-10 Goat in their league's History. You don't throw this kind of going away party for the 12th best guy of all time, lol. :cheers:

Lebron Stanley's can only pray they roll out this kind of red carpet for Collusion Era's 2 for 7. :lol
Please don't disrespect Lebron James, a member of the top 10 elite club of the game we love.

[Mr Feeny]

Please don't disrespect Lebron James, a member of the top 10 elite club of the game we love.

:applause: :applause: :lol

[Nash]

I think it's completely disingenuous that the author acts like the finals were the only series' played during the 3-peat when the Lakers faced much better competition in the West. Teams like the Blazers, Kings, and Spurs were all better than what they faced in the finals, and Kobe was anywhere from good to phenomenal against those teams.

The notion that you could just replace Kobe with any contemporary all-star guard and still end up with a threepeat is laughable. MAYBE a healthy '00-'02 TMac could have been enough, but with his track record, there's no way his body would've held up for three consecutive championship runs.
Well, here is another way to look at it. Without Shaq there would be no rings for Kobe. But replacing Kobe with an all star. Shaq would have his rings.

[Nash]

:applause: :applause: :lol
I tell you man, these guys are not part of the top 10 family.

[Gus Hemmingway]

I tell you man, these guys are not part of the top 10 family.


I don't even reply to posters fans outside top 10 :confusedshrug:

[Mr Feeny]

Well, here is another way to look at it. Without Shaq there would be no rings for Kobe. But replacing Kobe with an all star. Shaq would have his rings.

I have tears in my eyes. That was beautiful:hammertime: :dancin :hammertime:

[DMV2]

http://www.nba.com/kobe-tribute

The NBA even knows Kobe is a Top 8-10 Goat in their league's History. You don't throw this kind of going away party for the 12th best guy of all time, lol. :cheers:

Lebron Stanley's can only pray they roll out this kind of red carpet for Collusion Era's 2 for 7. :lol
Can somebody translate this in Top 10 for me?

I can't understand any of that jibberish non-Top 10 jabroni shit.

[Gus Hemmingway]

Can somebody translate this in Top 10 for me?

I can't understand any of that jibberish non-Top 10 jabroni shit.



No idea what he/she is saying either, DMV2.. :confusedshrug:

I don't speak outside top 10

[HOoopCityJones]

The exclusive we stan 2 for 6 in Finals club GOAT is the only club you belong to Pauk. :bowdown:

[Magic 32]

The exclusive we stan 2 for 6 in Finals club GOAT is the only club you belong to Pauk. :bowdown:

Cavs collapsing. No championship in sight. 2-7 seems inevitable.

This is nice distraction for them. Still can't escape another summer depression though.

[Lebronxrings]

kobe stans shook HARD

[HOoopCityJones]

LBJ stans so shook they can't even talk about him anymore. Getting beat by The Hornets and Boston in your prime with an All star Team and handpicked Coach in the weakest conference. :applause:

#2 for 6 is not Top 10 :banana:

[Mr Feeny]

kobe stans shook HARD

:lol
Not top 11 :lebronamazed:

They mad:lol

[Gus Hemmingway]

Hoopcityjones, Straight_ballin, Magic_32

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[Mr Feeny]

Hoopcityjones, Straight_ballin, Magic_32

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[Lebronxrings]

Hoopcityjones, Straight_ballin, Magic_32

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[livinglegend]

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[Magic 32]

Say hi to the lord of the Lebron stans....

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/motion/2015/1208/dm_151208_nba_amin_porzingis_ceiling/dm_151208_nba_amin_porzingis_ceiling.jpg

Remember guys......he's the cool one.

[livinglegend]

Say hi to the lord of the Lebron stans....

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/motion/2015/1208/dm_151208_nba_amin_porzingis_ceiling/dm_151208_nba_amin_porzingis_ceiling.jpg

Remember guys......he's the cool one.

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[HOoopCityJones]

Why ya acting like you just won the Lotto? :wtf: :oldlol:

[Mr Feeny]

Espn I salute you for causing all Kobe stans to go into meltdown!

http://25.media.tumblr.com/397054fbcfb7d2de8f4740a96567828c/tumblr_mmg8pgdlbF1s37joxo1_250.gif

[livinglegend]

Why ya acting like you just won the Lotto? :wtf: :oldlol:

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[Magic 32]

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You can put your age in the profile.

[HOoopCityJones]

The sad part is 12 is still way better than a 2 for 7 Finals record. :roll: :cheers:

[Mr Feeny]

The sad part is 12 is still way better than a 2 for 7 Finals record. :roll: :cheers:Except it's not. Mr 2/7 is still top 10 while Kobe is not :hammertime:


http://25.media.tumblr.com/397054fbcfb7d2de8f4740a96567828c/tumblr_mmg8pgdlbF1s37joxo1_250.gif

[HOoopCityJones]

Except it's not. Mr 2/7 is still top 10 while Kobe is not :hammertime:


http://25.media.tumblr.com/397054fbcfb7d2de8f4740a96567828c/tumblr_mmg8pgdlbF1s37joxo1_250.gif


At least you acknowledge it. :cheers: :roll: