Top 10 All Time Career By Mvp Votes

[feyki]

1th place is 10 points , 10th place is 1 points . Ranking by Total Points ;

1 - Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 127

2 - Bill Russell - 102

3 - Michael Jordan - 98

4 - Lebron James - 92

5 - Wilt Chamberlain - 90

5 - Karl Malone - 90

7 - Magic Johnson - 85

8 - Kobe Bryant - 84

8 - Shaquille O'Neal - 84

10 - Larry Bird - 83

10 - Tim Duncan - 83


Those numbers means who has better season effect by MVP Votes . Playoffs far more important in my book . But we have objective data for seasons .

[Odinn]

What kind of a bs is this?

These are 1st place votes alone.
http://i.imgur.com/XQEIeSw.jpg

[feyki]

What kind of a bs is this?

These are 1st place votes alone.
http://i.imgur.com/XQEIeSw.jpg

Duncan ;

5th in 98 voting - 6 Points
3th in 99 voting - 8 Points
5th in 00 voting - 6 Points
2th in 01 voting - 9 Points
1th in 02 and 03 voting - 20 Points
2th in 04 voting - 9 Points
4th in 05 voting - 7 Points
8th in 06 voting - 3 Points
4th in 07 voting - 7 Points
7th in 08 voting - 4 Points
7th in 13 voting - 4 Points

= 83 Points

[WayOfWade]

Very cool, especially considering most of those players make it into almost everyone's top 10 lists

[T_L_P]

Or, you know, you could just use MVP Shares which uses a much better system than '10 pts for 1st, 1 pt for 10th'

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/mvp_shares.html

[feyki]

Or, you know, you could just use MVP Shares which uses a much better system than '10 pts for 1st, 1 pt for 10th'

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/mvp_shares.html

No , reference's mvp shares overrate newer era's votes . We should adjust the votes .

[SpaceJam]

ITT salty Spurs fans?

[DMV2]

not sure why this is surprising after all Kareem has 6 MVPs.

Russell, Jordan 5 each. LeBron 4 MVPs.

The more MVPs you got the higher you'dbe ranked.

Shaq and Kobe one point higher than Bird(3) and Duncan(2) only one that's out of order.

[SexSymbol]

1th place is 10 points , 10th place is 1 points . Ranking by Total Points ;

1 - Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 127

2 - Bill Russell - 102

3 - Michael Jordan - 98

4 - Lebron James - 92

5 - Wilt Chamberlain - 90

6 - Magic Johnson - 85

7 - Kobe Bryant - 84

8 - Shaquille O'Neal - 84

9 - Larry Bird - 83

10 - Tim Duncan - 83


Those numbers means who has better season effect by MVP Votes . Playoffs far more important in my book . But we have objective data for seasons .







Aside from bron, this is a decent list

[BigTicket]

You left out Karl Malone, who has 90 points by your scoring system.

[feyki]

You left out Karl Malone, who has 90 points by your scoring system.

Yes , that's my bad . I'm gonna edit .

[HOoopCityJones]

1th place is 10 points , 10th place is 1 points . Ranking by Total Points ;

1 - Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 127

2 - Bill Russell - 102

3 - Michael Jordan - 98

4 - Lebron James - 92

5 - Wilt Chamberlain - 90

5 - Karl Malone - 90

7 - Magic Johnson - 85

8 - Kobe Bryant - 84

8 - Shaquille O'Neal - 84

10 - Larry Bird - 83

10 - Tim Duncan - 83


Those numbers means who has better season effect by MVP Votes . Playoffs far more important in my book . But we have objective data for seasons .









The Real Top 10.

[rmt]

You left out Karl Malone, who has 90 points by your scoring system.

So K. Malone places 5th above Magic, Shaq, Kobe, Bird and Duncan. Guess it ain't so decent a list after all. Who else is left off? Did you do Moses Malone? He had a long career.

[Lebronxrings]

The Real Top 10.
so lebron > kobe then?

:banana:

[feyki]

So K. Malone places 5th above Magic, Shaq, Kobe, Bird and Duncan. Guess it ain't so decent a list after all. Who else is left off? Did you do Moses Malone? He had a long career.

This list is about seasons , totally .

[Sarcastic]

What about separating between player vote years, and press vote years?

[tontoz]

There were only 7 other teams in the league when Russell won his first title. Have to take into account the lack of competition.

[feyki]

There were only 7 other teams in the league when Russell won his first title. Have to take into account the lack of competition.

Competition is about talent pool . Also , Less teams means tougher competition .


What about separating between player vote years, and press vote years?

Before 1980 Players voted by players . After 1980 Players voted by media :confusedshrug: .

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Aside from bron, this is a decent list

Lol? It's all stats based. If LeBron's on the list, it was legit.

[T_L_P]

No , reference's mvp shares overrate newer era's votes . We should adjust the votes .

So why haven't you adjusted the votes to cater for the fact that the league had less than 10 teams at one point?

[feyki]

So why haven't you adjusted the votes to cater for the fact that the league had less than 10 teams at one point?

Why less teams would be worse ?

[T_L_P]

Why less teams would be worse ?

Less teams = more concentrated talent pool which leads to Russell's Celtics which had 8 HOFers. That's impossible in a 32 team league.

Also, your point about MVP Shares makes no sense (again, especially when using a punitive system like '10 pts for 1st place, 1 pt for 1th'). You say you're trying to adjust things because new era votes mean more, then why is Kobe ahead of Duncan now when it's a fact that he's received a larger MVP share in his career? They played in the exact same era so you're not adjusting for anything, right?

[feyki]

TLP ;

You mean less teams means softer competition . But Russell won his mvp's against Oscar,Pettit,Wilt,Elgin and West . That is great competition .

Kobe has more points in my calculations . Cause Duncan had once times top 10 after 2008 . And Kobe was in the top 5 until 2013 season . Kobe stayed hot on seasons when he getting older . Btw , i personally think Duncan has better career than Kobe .

[La Frescobaldi]

Duncan ;

5th in 98 voting - 6 Points
3th in 99 voting - 8 Points
5th in 00 voting - 6 Points
2th in 01 voting - 9 Points
1th in 02 and 03 voting - 20 Points
2th in 04 voting - 9 Points
4th in 05 voting - 7 Points
8th in 06 voting - 3 Points
4th in 07 voting - 7 Points
7th in 08 voting - 4 Points
7th in 13 voting - 4 Points

= 83 Points
they didn't even count that way before like 1980 something what good is it

[Shih508]

This shit is dumb, why would it be fair to get 9 point and 8 point as 2nd and 3rd and MVP only get 10? Why not MVP get 30 point and 2nd place get 10 then 3rd place get 5 and rest get 1? who make up this metric? This is the hype up job for Kobe stans cuz their god was never the best player in the league for any year.

At the end of day, everyone with a brain knows that Tim Duncan is 100 miles ahead of Kobe in term of all time greatness!

[Odinn]

they didn't even count that way before like 1980 something what good is it
He's not capable of comprehending how the vote system has changed over the years. Leave him be.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Shit list, will neg when I can.

[ArbitraryWater]

so this shit thread has actually become a thing now?

Will neg until OP stops worthless threads

[feyki]

they didn't even count that way before like 1980 something what good is it

You don't count before 80 , right ? Interesting .