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Nick Young
02-11-2016, 10:21 PM
Hilldawg trying to outcommie Bernie, holy shit she is the most shameless flip flopper I've ever seen.

Bernie sounds like Larry David, no one can take this man seriously.

Holy shit Dems need a third to rise up.

Nick Young
02-11-2016, 10:25 PM
ooo, moderator going in hard, Hillary has been asked to prove her womanhood.

Nick Young
02-11-2016, 10:29 PM
Bernie bringing up the bullshit wage gap myth (http://boynedmaster.github.io/wage-gap/). Holy shit, why do all the politicians keep bringing up this lie?

Jameerthefear
02-11-2016, 10:35 PM
Bernie bringing up the bullshit wage gap myth (http://boynedmaster.github.io/wage-gap/). Holy shit, why do all the politicians keep bringing up this lie?
seriously. it's been proven bs sooo many time

Im Still Ballin
02-11-2016, 10:38 PM
#WebbNation

The Webb Knight Rises

Nick Young
02-11-2016, 10:41 PM
#WebbNation

The Webb Knight Rises
#SAVEUSBASEDWEBB

#WEBBNATION2016

If Bernie dies, it's not too late. Webb vs Hilldawg is a curb stomp in Webb's favor.

Patrick Chewing
02-11-2016, 10:41 PM
Did Bernie just say that the United States has more Blacks and Latinos incarcerated than China? Really? I don't remember slaves being shipped to China, Bernie. I don't remember Latin America being landlocked with China, Bernie. :facepalm

Way to skew things and confuse the low-information voter, Bernie.

oh the horror
02-11-2016, 10:48 PM
One thing I will say, Bernie needs to refresh his message. He's in the red as far as repeating his core message for his campaign. It's the same thing over and over with this guy. Needs a bit more offense in his shtick.

FillJackson
02-11-2016, 11:11 PM
#SAVEUSBASEDWEBB

#WEBBNATION2016

If Bernie dies, it's not too late. Webb vs Hilldawg is a curb stomp in Webb's favor.
You know that Webb already ran against Hillary, right?

TheMan
02-11-2016, 11:14 PM
Hillary gon' feel the Bern :rockon:

Nick Young
02-11-2016, 11:15 PM
You know that Webb already ran against Hillary, right?
there has been no 1v1 debate.

KyrieTheFuture
02-11-2016, 11:16 PM
Did Bernie just say that the United States has more Blacks and Latinos incarcerated than China? Really? I don't remember slaves being shipped to China, Bernie. I don't remember Latin America being landlocked with China, Bernie. :facepalm

Way to skew things and confuse the low-information voter, Bernie.
I believe it's that we have more blacks and Latinos incarcerated than China has people incarcerated.

TheMan
02-11-2016, 11:17 PM
Hilldawg trying to outcommie Bernie, holy shit she is the most shameless flip flopper I've ever seen.

Bernie sounds like Larry David, no one can take this man seriously.

Holy shit Dems need a third to rise up.
I bet Larry can do a killer Bernie impersonation...or is it the other way around? :lol

Nick Young
02-11-2016, 11:21 PM
Hillbot 3000 getting scared. Bernie is calling out her warmongery to her face. Her response gon b good

She's gonna start getting viscous

http://www.moonbattery.com/terminator_hillary.jpg

Patrick Chewing
02-11-2016, 11:22 PM
I believe it's that we have more blacks and Latinos incarcerated than China has people incarcerated.


I hope that's what he said and meant. Even though comparing this country to any other country is not the same.

KyrieTheFuture
02-11-2016, 11:24 PM
I hope that's what he said and meant. Even though comparing this country to any other country is not the same.
I can't watch so I can't say for certain, but I have to hope that's what he means because you're right. Who cares about the black/Latino population of China? Its gotta be like 10,000 maybe.

Nick Young
02-11-2016, 11:24 PM
LOL Hilldawg straight up lying right now making up Bernie's voting record. Straight up pathological, this some 1984 shit! Her supporters are just going to blindly believe her lies too.

~primetime~
02-11-2016, 11:26 PM
I'm sorry but Hillary is just way more sophisticated than Sanders...that should be obvious to everyone.

He's just a sweet old man...

Nick Young
02-11-2016, 11:27 PM
Bernie calling out Hillary's mentor Henry Kissinger as the American Emperor Palpatine.


HILLBOT WITH THE DEATH STARE

Bern dog:rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

DonDadda59
02-11-2016, 11:28 PM
I'm sorry but Hillary is just way more sophisticated than Sanders...that should be obvious to everyone.

He's just a sweet old man...

Hillary is a straight up killing machine.

Patrick Chewing
02-11-2016, 11:28 PM
Bernie gonna piss a lot of people off talking bad about Kissinger like that.

Nick Young
02-11-2016, 11:31 PM
Bernie's getting rattled by Hilldawg's slimey tactics and he's losing his composure. Hillbot is playing this perfectly. She's an expert Machiavellian.

Bern dawg looks shook leading to Hillbot looking better by comparison.

http://www.moonbattery.com/terminator_hillary.jpg

DonDadda59
02-11-2016, 11:34 PM
This bitch is untouchable on foreign affairs.

Jameerthefear
02-11-2016, 11:35 PM
hillary looks so pissed

KyrieTheFuture
02-11-2016, 11:41 PM
This bitch is untouchable on foreign affairs.
She knows so much, yet makes so many poor decisions

Nick Young
02-11-2016, 11:43 PM
hillary looks so pissed
The flip switches and she gets pissed any time someone calls out her lust for blood and interferes with her future dream war in Iran.

Nick Young
02-11-2016, 11:45 PM
Hilldawg resorting to character assassination to answer a question about her favorite world leader. What a shill:facepalm

DonDadda59
02-11-2016, 11:46 PM
She knows so much, yet makes so many poor decisions

She is a bloodthirsty maniac. Once she gets in the big chair, heads are gonna roll all over the World. Literally. :crazysam:

Jameerthefear
02-11-2016, 11:47 PM
Hilldawg resorting to character assassination to answer a question about her favorite world leader. What a shill:facepalm
Seriously what the hell was that? :oldlol:

Nick Young
02-11-2016, 11:47 PM
She is in PURE KILL mode. Look at her face. She is PISSED.

Nice Larry David-like response at the end.

Hillary knows she's in trouble, that's why she's resorting to these petty tactics.

imnew09
02-11-2016, 11:49 PM
Need Trump to stump these weak mofos

FillJackson
02-11-2016, 11:49 PM
Bernie calling out Hillary's mentor Henry Kissinger:roll:

Yeah, I'm sure when Hillary was on the Judiciary Committee working to impeach Kissinger's boss, they would meet for mentor/mentee lunches.

Nick Young
02-11-2016, 11:50 PM
:roll:

Yeah, I'm sure when Hillary was on the Judiciary Committee working to impeach Kissinger's boss, they would meet for mentor/mentee lunches.
That just shows how two-faced she is bro.

Hillary wrote about her love of Kissinger in her book. It's her own words, brah.

FillJackson
02-11-2016, 11:51 PM
That just shows how two-faced she is bro.

Hillary wrote about her love of Kissinger in her book. It's her own words, brah.
page cite jackass

DonDadda59
02-11-2016, 11:51 PM
Need Trump to stump these weak mofos

Trump vs Hillary in a 1 on 1 debate... Hillary would eviscerate that man. It'd be ugly. Atrocious.

Nick Young
02-11-2016, 11:52 PM
Trump vs Hillary in a 1 on 1 debate... Hillary would eviscerate that man. It'd be ugly. Atrocious.
Trump would get the entire audience laughing at robo-Hillary's every word. He'd clown her harder than she's ever been clowned before and she won't know how to handle it.

DonDadda59
02-11-2016, 11:54 PM
Trump would get the entire audience laughing at robo-Hillary's every word. He'd clown her harder than she's ever been clowned before and she won't know how to handle it.

Are you serious? The fool is awful at debating. He was booed into oblivion the last time out. And that's with 10,000 other dudes on stage. :lol

In a 1 on 1?

Yuck.

FillJackson
02-12-2016, 12:02 AM
So no mentorship and no love. Gotcha.


And yes, I knew about that David Corn article.

You can read her review of Kissinger's 2014 book here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hillary-clinton-reviews-henry-kissingers-world-order/2014/09/04/b280c654-31ea-11e4-8f02-03c644b2d7d0_story.html

~primetime~
02-12-2016, 12:29 AM
Are you serious? The fool is awful at debating. He was booed into oblivion the last time out. And that's with 10,000 other dudes on stage. :lol

In a 1 on 1?

Yuck.
It would be comical, in a sad way.

I mean, she knows what she is talking about and he doesn't.

ALBballer
02-12-2016, 12:42 AM
Trump vs Hillary in a 1 on 1 debate... Hillary would eviscerate that man. It'd be ugly. Atrocious.

Hilary is a souless kunt and I still can't believe the Hilary camp has gotten away with pushing the notion that Bernie Sanders is sexist and racist pig. If they can paint him in such a way then there is no hope for trump since the personal attacks would write themselves but Trump would deliver some haymakers of his own. He could play the whole "you're being financed I'm not" card. You used bribe me card. I went to your wedding card. And so forth.

9erempiree
02-12-2016, 12:44 AM
What accent was Hilary using tonight?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBte-_JZ_vA

ALBballer
02-12-2016, 12:45 AM
It would be comical, in a sad way.

I mean, she knows what she is talking about and he doesn't.

I don't think that is the case at all but Hilary is a career politician and knows how to mask her weaknesses and how to formulate her answers. Trump is straight to the point and you can spot his BS easier.

9erempiree
02-12-2016, 12:50 AM
Hilary is a souless kunt and I still can't believe the Hilary camp has gotten away with pushing the notion that Bernie Sanders is sexist and racist pig. If they can paint him in such a way then there is no hope for trump since the personal attacks would write themselves but Trump would deliver some haymakers of his own. He could play the whole "you're being financed I'm not" card. You used bribe me card. I went to your wedding card. And so forth.

This.

I don't think Hilary would bring out the personal attacks on Trump because Trump will own her with you brought up.

He did that against the Republicans and they STFU.

Wait till the general election when he goes back '90's era intellectual Trump.

SCREWstonRockets
02-12-2016, 01:00 AM
damn, bernie brought up the u.s. secret bombing of cambodia :applause:

poido123
02-12-2016, 01:08 AM
Are you serious? The fool is awful at debating. He was booed into oblivion the last time out. And that's with 10,000 other dudes on stage. :lol

In a 1 on 1?

Yuck.


I honestly think you look at the world with different lenses on.

Nobody outside of a few idiots here would agree with that. Even the fence sitters would agree that Turmp speaks better than Hillary.

Jameerthefear
02-12-2016, 01:12 AM
I honestly think you look at the world with different lenses on.

Nobody outside of a few idiots here would agree with that. Even the fence sitters would agree that Turmp speaks better than Hillary.
i hate hillary but she would absolutely destroy trump. it would be embarrassing

TheMan
02-12-2016, 01:24 AM
Bookmark this thread

Bernie is the next POTUS

:pimp:

DonDadda59
02-12-2016, 01:33 AM
I honestly think you look at the world with different lenses on.

Nobody outside of a few idiots here would agree with that. Even the fence sitters would agree that Turmp speaks better than Hillary.

The Donald = The idiot whisperer. No wonder you'd think that. :yaohappy:


Bookmark this thread

Bernie is the next POTUS

:pimp:

NH will be looked back upon as the highlight of Bernie's campaign. Hillary is about to run the table from here on out.

FillJackson
02-12-2016, 01:35 AM
Speaking of Trump.

The GOP has less than a month to stop him. (http://election.princeton.edu/2016/02/11/the-anti-trump-path-gets-very-narrow/) Deadlines coming up fast.
[QUOTE]With the Republican field so divided after New Hampshire, the path for anyone other than Trump requires nearly all candidates to drop out. Multiple candidates want that. For example, Ted Cruz thinks it is time to unite around one candidate: Ted Cruz. And so on. However, after getting 3-4 convention delegates each on Tuesday, Cruz, John Kasich, Jeb Bush, and Marco Rubio all have reasons to stay in. Under these conditions, Trump wins.

.....
Deadline 1 (February 29th): Get down to two alternatives to Donald Trump as a consequence of South Carolina and Nevada

FillJackson
02-12-2016, 01:37 AM
The Donald = The idiot whisperer. No wonder you'd think that. :yaohappy:



NH will be looked back upon as the highlight of Bernie's campaign. Hillary is about to run the table from here on out.

Bernie will certainly win Vermont, Massachusetts, Oregon, Utah and probably Connecticut.

FillJackson
02-12-2016, 02:16 AM
Bernie did that let's use the other unemployment number bit that Republicans are so fond of. However, even u6 is 1% higher that the average before the recession. Unless you add a ton of qualifiers, it's a dishonest argument.

http://www.motherjones.com/files/blog_u6_february_2016.jpg

On the other side of the aisle, Trump is claiming the unemployment rate is 42 (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/feb/11/donald-trump/donald-trump-repeats-pants-fire-claim-unemployment/)%.

TheMan
02-12-2016, 06:18 AM
The Donald = The idiot whisperer. No wonder you'd think that. :yaohappy:



NH will be looked back upon as the highlight of Bernie's campaign. Hillary is about to run the table from here on out.
Bernie Sanders is beating Hillary in most demographics.

Once minorities in later states get to know Bernie and his legit stances on defending the average American families struggles, his REFUSAL TO ACCEPT MONEY FROM RICH INTERESTS, his refusal to accept support from Super-PACs, Hillary's accepting money from Corporate America (because they like her and don't expect a return on their investment :rolleyes: ) then they will start to support him. Professor Cornel West is a Sanders supporter, he knows what's up and I'm sure many African Americans will soon follow and not just blindly support Hillary.

The Big Money interests, DNC Establishment and Super Delegates will be her firewall...and unfortunately, it just might be enough to get her past the finish line :(

True progressives are for Bernie tho

I like Hillary overall but she voted for the Iraq War, accepts huge amounts of money from the rich (we need to get big money out of the American political system because the rich buy politicians and expect favors), she isn't so progressive in many of her stances etc...given the choice between a real progressive and a right leaning candidate who will rile up the GOP in the GE, well, I'm feeling the Bern :rockon:

Take Your Lumps
02-12-2016, 09:29 AM
I think people are going to be surprised by the Nevada dem result. Bernie should do incredibly well there among the service industry workers especially.

Nevada is No. 1 in income decline (http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/economy/nevada-no-1-income-decline)

Household incomes by state (http://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/Household-Incomes-by-State)

http://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/charts/census/median-household-income-by-state-winners-losers.gif

FillJackson
02-12-2016, 11:27 AM
Professor Cornel West is a Sanders supporter, he knows what's up and I'm sure many African Americans will soon follow and not just blindly support Hillary.Cornel West gets you less black votes not more. You

And it's amazingly condescending that to think that black support for Hillary is blind support and that they would simply follow Cornel West. They are also pretty clear-eyed on why they distrust Sanders.


Bernie won New Hampshire big, but it's not really representative of the US or of other Democratic primaries.
96% of the votes cast were from white voters.
It's an open primary and 40% of the votes in the Democratic primary were from independents.
It's the state most familiar with Sanders other than Vermont. The Western half of NH hampshire gets Vermont radio and TV stations and Sanders won these counties overwhelmingly

For Sanders to go beyond competing and become a serious challengers, he's going to have to really take another leap in the next two weeks. Super Tuesday is 18 days away. After March 1st 4 of the 5 states most favorable to Sanders will have already voted: Iowa, New Hampshire, Vermont and Massachusetts.

NumberSix
02-12-2016, 02:25 PM
Bernie Sanders is beating Hillary in most demographics.

Once minorities in later states get to know Bernie and his legit stances on defending the average American families struggles, his REFUSAL TO ACCEPT MONEY FROM RICH INTERESTS, his refusal to accept support from Super-PACs, Hillary's accepting money from Corporate America (because they like her and don't expect a return on their investment :rolleyes: ) then they will start to support him. Professor Cornel West is a Sanders supporter, he knows what's up and I'm sure many African Americans will soon follow and not just blindly support Hillary.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Where do you people come up with this stuff?

Nick Young
02-12-2016, 02:30 PM
Why do people hate Trump? Out of all the repubs, he's the best and least crazy one. He is an outsider and a billionaire so hopefully won't be as corrupted by lobbyists and campaign investors, even though I know that's naive idealism on my part. I think he wouldn't pander as much to his lobbyists as much as someone like Hillary would.

ALSO the dude is obviously playing up the hardcore conservatism to get votes. He's not an insane racist, and he has a long history of being pretty liberal and in favor of pro-choice before the elections.

Trump and Bernie are the best options out of all these shit candidates.

Shilldawg desperately wants war with Iran, we are in trouble if she gets in to power.

She wants it so badly.

He is the most charismatic and entertaining guy still in the debates which is going to lead to a bunch of normies who don't follow politics voting for him.


I am amused that a few months ago all of you were making jokes about Trump being out of the race by now, now yalls are shook he's actually going to be the GOP candidate because you know none of the Dems have a chance vs him.


Rubio or Cruz it's an easy victory for the Dems. Trump though is a different monster.

Hilldawg would get destroyed by Trump in a debate.

NumberSix
02-12-2016, 02:36 PM
Why do people hate Trump? Out of all the repubs, he's the best and least crazy one. He is an outsider and a billionaire so hopefully won't be as corrupted by lobbyists and campaign investors, even though I know that's naive idealism on my part. I think he wouldn't pander as much to his lobbyists as much as someone like Hillary would.

ALSO the dude is obviously playing up the hardcore conservatism to get votes. He's not an insane racist, and he has a long history of being pretty liberal and in favor of pro-choice before the elections.

Trump and Bernie are the best options out of all these shit candidates.

Shilldawg desperately wants war with Iran, we are in trouble if she gets in to power.

She wants it so badly.

He is the most charismatic and entertaining guy still in the debates which is going to lead to a bunch of normies who don't follow politics voting for him.


I am amused that a few months ago all of you were making jokes about Trump being out of the race by now, now yalls are shook he's actually going to be the GOP candidate because you know none of the Dems have a chance vs him.


Rubio or Cruz it's an easy victory for the Dems. Trump though is a different monster.
Bernie is by far the worst candidate. He's literally a fascist.



Hilldawg would get schlonged by Trump in a debate.
fixed.

Nick Young
02-12-2016, 02:40 PM
Bernie is by far the worst candidate. He's literally a fascist.


fixed.
Bernie isn't a fascist, he's a commie.

I think he's shit, but he's better than Warmonger Hillary.

Dems missed a massive opportunity not backing Webb. He was the perfect moderate crossover candidate, and as a Marine he would have pwned Trump in the debates. The dude jumped on a grenade Captain America style to save his homies in Nam.

#CEROMIEDO

NumberSix
02-12-2016, 02:46 PM
Bernie isn't a fascist, he's a commie.

I think he's shit, but he's better than Warmonger Hillary.

Dems missed a massive opportunity not backing Webb. He was the perfect moderate crossover candidate, and as a Marine he would have pwned Trump in the debates. The dude jumped on a grenade Captain America style to save his homies in Nam.

#CEROMIEDO
Bernie's ideas are far worse than Hillary's, but he wouldn't be as bad as her because absolutely none of his ideas would get through congress. Bernie winning would result in 4 years of the president being utterly irrelevant.

Nick Young
02-12-2016, 03:00 PM
Bernie's ideas are far worse than Hillary's, but he wouldn't be as bad as her because absolutely none of his ideas would get through congress. Bernie winning would result in 4 years of the president being utterly irrelevant.
WRONG. His crazy policies won't go through, but at the same time, he won't be constantly angling for war with Iran like Hillary will do.

4 years of not going to war vs Iran is relevant.

NumberSix
02-12-2016, 03:29 PM
WRONG. His crazy policies won't go through, but at the same time, he won't be constantly angling for war with Iran like Hillary will do.

4 years of not going to war vs Iran is relevant.
The great thing about Hillary is that she is old. When the broads are on their periods, they go crazy. That's not an issue with the old broads like Hillary. They don't get periods.

Godzuki
02-12-2016, 03:29 PM
do either of these pandering bitches differ on anything? :confusedshrug:

bladefd
02-12-2016, 06:07 PM
One thing I will say, Bernie needs to refresh his message. He's in the red as far as repeating his core message for his campaign. It's the same thing over and over with this guy. Needs a bit more offense in his shtick.

I would agree with that. Need to hear other stuff from Bernie. We know his main message but other stuff matters as well. He comes back over and over to the same message on every single issue. I gave him benefit of the doubt first couple debates, but now I need to hear more areas of his message and goals outside of corrupt finance system and wall Street corruption. I agree with him on that, but we need other stuff to see how well-rounded he is.

DonDadda59
02-12-2016, 06:11 PM
I would agree with that. Need to hear other stuff from Bernie. We know his main message but other stuff matters as well. He comes back over and over to the same message on every single issue. I gave him benefit of the doubt first couple debates, but now I need to hear more areas of his message and goals outside of corrupt finance system and wall Street corruption. I agree with him on that, but we need other stuff to see how well-rounded he is.

Yup I've been saying this for a while now. Bernie is not at all well-rounded as a Presidential candidate. If he was running for chairman of the SEC or some other financial sector watchdog/reformer position... He'd be that dude. Maybe even Secretary of Education. But as a President, not so much.

Micku
02-12-2016, 06:41 PM
Yup I've been saying this for a while now. Bernie is not at all well-rounded as a Presidential candidate. If he was running for chairman of the SEC or some other financial sector watchdog/reformer position... He'd be that dude. Maybe even Secretary of Education. But as a President, not so much.

He seems to have his overall domestic policy down. I don't really feel like that's not a problem. Him and Hillary basically agree on the same thing with the exception of Healthcare, free college and tax plan. He may not get the things he has planned passed through congress, but it seems like he knows what he wants to do, and he has a major theme.

Foreign policy is his weakness. Hillary seems much more informed in the debates. He could explain why going to Iraq was a mistake that lead to ISIS or something and relate to the current events today, but he doesn't seem to be doing that.

But from what I see, Hillary and Sanders mostly agree on like...90% of issues. Even if you look up their stances on other sites, they agree on most issues. Sanders may go a little bit further and the method is different. And they disagree a bit on foreign policy, college being free, health care and tax plan.

9erempiree
02-12-2016, 06:44 PM
Just horrible candidates.

Bernie could be that dude for the Dems but he isn't going to beat an establishment candidate like Hilary.

He also doesn't bring up foreign policy because Hilary knows more than him on the subject matter due to her position. Does that mean she has a better foreign policy than him? Absolutely not...but she does have more information than him which she can bring up or lie about and nobody is going to challenge her.

bladefd
02-12-2016, 07:18 PM
Foreign policy is his weakness. Hillary seems much more informed in the debates. He could explain why going to Iraq was a mistake that lead to ISIS or something and relate to the current events today, but he doesn't seem to be doing that.

But from what I see, Hillary and Sanders mostly agree on like...90% of issues. Even if you look up their stances on other sites, they agree on most issues. Sanders may go a little bit further and the method is different. And they disagree a bit on foreign policy, college being free, health care and tax plan.

May be time for him to talk about the team he will have around him to alleviate those fears. Perhaps some folks with foreign policy experience. Bernie needs to do that.

Micku
02-12-2016, 10:25 PM
May be time for him to talk about the team he will have around him to alleviate those fears. Perhaps some folks with foreign policy experience. Bernie needs to do that.

He could be informed about foreign policy if he happen to become president. He just have to surround himself with experts on the field like many other presidents did. As he said, it's the judgement on what to do that matters.

In these debates tho, that's Hillary's strength. She has the resources since it was her job. It doesn't really excuse Sanders tho, but she has the advantage there of being informed.

And it doesn't seem like Sanders is ignorant of what's going on, but Hillary appears to have more substance.