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UK2K
02-12-2016, 02:47 PM
WTF is this? If Bernie wins the popular vote by a little, he will lose. If he wins the popular vote by a lot, he will lose. He has to absolutely crush it to win. How is that fair?

[QUOTE]Though Bernie Sanders won the New Hampshire primary in a landslide over Hillary Clinton, he will likely receive fewer delegates than she will.

[B]Sanders won 60 percent of the vote, but thanks to the Democratic Party

NumberSix
02-12-2016, 02:51 PM
According to Harry Reid, it wouldn't be fair for Iowa and New Hampshire to be decided by the voters alone because those states are too white.

Yes, he really said that.

DonDadda59
02-12-2016, 02:54 PM
According to Harry Reid, it wouldn't be fair for Iowa and New Hampshire to be decided by the voters alone because those states are too white.

Yes, he really said that.

The White man simply can't stop holding Ls these days. Taking cuckoldery to new, never before seen heights. White is whack in the modern era. :(

Nick Young
02-12-2016, 02:57 PM
It's a rigged system. Hillary is going to win by default, due to her political connections and lobbyist backing. Bernie is just a tomato can thrown out there to lose to Hillary, atleast in the eyes of the people running the Democratic party.

Nick Young
02-12-2016, 02:59 PM
The White man simply can't stop holding Ls these days. Taking cuckoldery to new, never before seen heights. White is whack in the modern era. :(
The white man created the American system of government that everyone is currently enjoying living under.


The white man created basketball itself, leading to thousands of jobs for underprivileged black kids over the years.


Hold this eternal W, whiteman.

Terahite
02-12-2016, 03:04 PM
The White man simply can't stop holding Ls these days. Taking cuckoldery to new, never before seen heights. White is whack in the modern era. :(

Race hustlers like you who talk about "white people" as if they aren't a mass of different ethnic and religious groups are really getting tiresome. All you're doing is creating a divisive construct that explains nothing. Unless you're talking about white libtards like ThePhantomCreep shut your ****ing mouth about "white people" which is only a cop-out term to cover for your ignorant ass. :lol

Trollsmasher
02-12-2016, 03:09 PM
Bernie is just shit at communicating with minorities.

If Trump was still a dem running on a 'free gibz' platform, he would be beating Hillary by 30 points everywhere by now.

jonathan
02-12-2016, 03:31 PM
OP's post is misleading. Superdelegates can change their vote at any point right up until the convention. Most will change to what the majority of the population wants. Case in point - Bill Clinton is a superdelegate and in 2008 he changed his vote from his wife Hillary to Obama.

FillJackson
02-12-2016, 03:32 PM
According to Harry Reid, it wouldn't be fair for Iowa and New Hampshire to be decided by the voters alone because those states are too white.

Yes, he really said that.
provide quote please.

NumberSix
02-12-2016, 03:33 PM
OP's post is misleading. Superdelegates can change their vote at any point right up until the convention. Most will change to what the majority of the population wants. Case in point - Bill Clinton is a superdelegate and in 2008 he changed his vote from his wife Hillary to Obama.
Yeah, Bill has never been particularly loyal to Hillary.

DonDadda59
02-12-2016, 03:45 PM
The white man created the American system of government that everyone is currently enjoying living under.


The white man created basketball itself, leading to thousands of jobs for underprivileged black kids over the years.


Hold this eternal W, whiteman.

Different era for the White man, strong era. Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee must be rolling over in their graves with the self-loathing White hipsters running around nowadays. :lol

The weakest of eras.


Race hustlers like you who talk about "white people" as if they aren't a mass of different ethnic and religious groups are really getting tiresome. All you're doing is creating a divisive construct that explains nothing. Unless you're talking about white libtards like ThePhantomCreep shut your ****ing mouth about "white people" which is only a cop-out term to cover for your ignorant ass. :lol

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/08/27/article-2735590-20D7C43B00000578-469_306x446.jpg

Deal. With. It.

FillJackson
02-12-2016, 03:52 PM
WTF is this? If Bernie wins the popular vote by a little, he will lose. If he wins the popular vote by a lot, he will lose. He has to absolutely crush it to win. How is that fair?



So basically, 20% of the vote for the Democrat candidate comes directly from elected Democrats, who obviously will support Hillary. Long story short, Bernie started this race off in a 350 delegate hole, while the winning candidate will need ~2,400 (IIRC).

So more or less, Hillary wins no matter what unless Bernie absolutely crushes it everywhere else. It seems the Democrat party has already elected their candidate. If Bernie wins by a lot, he will also win a bunch of superdelegates.

This is not new and both candidates surely knew about this.

jimmybball
02-12-2016, 03:59 PM
WTF is this? If Bernie wins the popular vote by a little, he will lose. If he wins the popular vote by a lot, he will lose. He has to absolutely crush it to win. How is that fair?



The US does not have a true democracy despite people believing it is. This format, as well as the electoral college need to go.

jongib369
02-12-2016, 04:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90RajY2nrgk

jimmybball
02-12-2016, 04:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90RajY2nrgk

No joke, a member of the electoral college in Minnesota cast his vote for "John Ewards" for President in 2004.

Blue&Orange
02-12-2016, 04:05 PM
so a party elects they own candidate? Pretty sure that's how it is in 99% of the free democratic world.

jongib369
02-12-2016, 04:06 PM
"Hello America I'm Adam Conover, I'm running for president of Florida, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. And boy do I love Florida oranges, phili cheese steaks, and w/e you people like in Ohio. The rest of the country can go suck a big one :D "

UK2K
02-12-2016, 04:10 PM
If Bernie wins by a lot, he will also win a bunch of superdelegates.

This is not new and both candidates surely knew about this.
But Hillary doesn't have to win at all, and she'll still get their votes.

Since the superdelgates are 20% of the vote, and the vast majority of them have already pledged to Hillary, he has to crush the popular vote.

DonDadda59
02-12-2016, 04:15 PM
But Hillary doesn't have to win at all, and she'll still get their votes.

Since the superdelgates are 20% of the vote, and the vast majority of them have already pledged to Hillary, he has to crush the popular vote.

You don't like it, get a bunch of your friends together and change the voting system.

jongib369
02-12-2016, 04:15 PM
But Hillary doesn't have to win at all, and she'll still get their votes.

Since the superdelgates are 20% of the vote, and the vast majority of them have already pledged to Hillary, he has to crush the popular vote.
In recent presidential elections up to 80% of votes cast didn't have an impact on the outcome

jongib369
02-12-2016, 04:18 PM
Why Rigging Elections Is Completely Legal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd5rul6EdF0)

KyrieTheFuture
02-12-2016, 04:25 PM
Yeah, Bill has never been particularly loyal to Hillary.
:applause:

UK2K
02-12-2016, 04:33 PM
You don't like it, get a bunch of your friends together and change the voting system.

It doesn't break my heart. I dont vote in the DNC.

However, I would probably be bitching a lot more if Trump was winning the popular vote like he is, but yet Jeb Bush was ahead in the 'who's going to win the candidacy' race.

DonDadda59
02-12-2016, 04:35 PM
It doesn't break my heart. I dont vote in the DNC.

However, I would probably be bitching a lot more if Trump was winning the popular vote like he is, but yet Jeb Bush was ahead in the 'who's going to win the candidacy' race.

And if a brokered convention goes down on the Elephant side... You're going to rally the troops? :confusedshrug:

DeuceWallaces
02-12-2016, 04:43 PM
You are confused.

If Bernie wins they will switch.

Nick Young
02-12-2016, 04:51 PM
Different era for the White man, strong era. Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee must be rolling over in their graves with the self-loathing White hipsters running around nowadays. :lol

The weakest of eras.



http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/08/27/article-2735590-20D7C43B00000578-469_306x446.jpg

Deal. With. It.

Where would the black man be with out NFL and NBA, two sports and sport organizations ORGANIZED AND CREATED BY THE WHITIE?


Hold this eternal W white man.


To black men all over the world, whities say "You're Welcome."

poido123
02-12-2016, 04:54 PM
The White man simply can't stop holding Ls these days. Taking cuckoldery to new, never before seen heights. White is whack in the modern era. :(


Yet you sit here endorsing white girl Hillary for president?


:hammerhead:

jimmybball
02-12-2016, 05:00 PM
You are confused.

If Bernie wins they will switch.
Bernie did win and they didn't switch in NH. :confusedshrug:

DonDadda59
02-12-2016, 05:20 PM
Where would the black man be with out NFL and NBA, two sports and sport organizations ORGANIZED AND CREATED BY THE WHITIE?


Hold this eternal W white man.


To black men all over the world, whities say "You're Welcome."

Again, this is 2016. This is your average White today:

http://www.lifelineexpedition.co.uk/mota/downloads/mota%20pics/lifeline010.jpg

What a time. :applause:


Yet you sit here endorsing white girl Hillary for president?

:hammerhead:

I haven't committed my super delegate vote to any nominee yet. :confusedshrug:

DeuceWallaces
02-12-2016, 05:31 PM
Bernie did win and they didn't switch in NH. :confusedshrug:

At the convention.

Take Your Lumps
02-12-2016, 05:40 PM
What the DNC did today is even worse, IMO.

DNC rolls back Obama ban on contributions from federal lobbyists (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/dnc-allowing-donations-from-federal-lobbyists-and-pacs/2016/02/12/22b1c38c-d196-11e5-88cd-753e80cd29ad_story.html)

And they announce it the day after the debate.

Bernie's pulling in millions so they change the rules mid-game to call in for big money reinforcements.

Disgusting.

9erempiree
02-12-2016, 05:43 PM
These two have no chance against Donald Trump.

Normally I favor one candidate over the other because I want my candidate to have a better chance.

In this instance with Hilary and Bernie...I don't know which I want Trump to face against because he will have a huge, yes, yuuuuge advantage over any of these two.

Bernie is a socialist and wants socialism in our country. Good luck with that.

Hilary? She has a lot of dirt on her and her fundraising and pandering to feminists are a huge turn off.

Both will get shutdown immediately.

Nanners
02-12-2016, 05:47 PM
What the DNC did today is even worse, IMO.

DNC rolls back Obama ban on contributions from federal lobbyists (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/dnc-allowing-donations-from-federal-lobbyists-and-pacs/2016/02/12/22b1c38c-d196-11e5-88cd-753e80cd29ad_story.html)

And they announce it the day after the debate.

Bernie's pulling in millions so they change the rules mid-game to call in for big money reinforcements.

Disgusting.

And shillary has the nerve to say she is going to clamp down on campaign finance. what an absolute joke.

DonDadda59
02-12-2016, 05:51 PM
And shillary has the nerve to say she is going to clamp down on campaign finance. what an absolute joke.

Hillary is more crime boss than politician. Ruthless, cunning. Even the federales are trying to hit her with some RICO charges.

But she's untouchable. Changes the rules as she sees fit.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/5f/13/cd/5f13cd5881d6bb1e864637454dc80993.jpg

bladefd
02-12-2016, 08:24 PM
I made this post in another thread



I disagree with counting superdelegates yet alongside normal delegates. While majority of superdelegates are pledged to Hillary, they are not committed to her. Commitments will be after the primaries/caucuses.

It would split the party in half just before the general election if the superdelegates stayed with Hillary even if the public/normal delegates voted for Bernie after primaries/caucuses. Interesting point I read is that Bloomberg is waiting for something like that to happen. He can swoop in and take Bernie's votes along with many independents. That would destroy Hillary instantly and the entire democratic party overnight. Republicans would suddenly become the favorites. You think the superdelegates don't know that?

In the end, whoever wins normal delegates will win superdelegates too. Otherwise, it is political suicide with democratic party risking the Republicans or independent Bloomberg winning (most likely the Republicans). For now, only count regular delegates.

Sanders - 36
Clinton - 32

Furthermore


My point was simply that lets say Bernie wins popular vote by 25 normal delegates. Then super delegates decide to go with Hillary and put her over the top. That is political suicide because now you undermine your public support. In such a scenario, the Bernie voters would suddenly pull back thinking their voice was undermined, and nomination was already decided.

That is when the party would split and lets say Hillary is nominated even with popular support going to Bernie, Bernie supporters would lose trust in Democrat committee. That is where Bloomberg can sweep right in, take Bernie's votes in general election and some independents. It won't happen where the superdelegates would go against popular vote.

Of course, none of this matters if Hillary dominates popular vote rest of the way. Bernie will need to somehow convince the southern states. It might be time for him to shift gears a bit to get into general election form by maybe finding a way to draw some moderates and independents. Without support of moderates/independents, Bernie is in massive trouble.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12139356&postcount=32

Here's an article I found on it..
[QUOTE][B]Q: From everything you

FillJackson
02-12-2016, 11:24 PM
Bernie did win and they didn't switch in NH. :confusedshrug:
it doesn't have to be immediate.

Long Duck Dong
02-12-2016, 11:39 PM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/5f/13/cd/5f13cd5881d6bb1e864637454dc80993.jpg

Her breasts are nowhere near that nice. :oldlol:

The Republicans dream come true is if Sanders loses the nomination and runs as an independent. He says he won't but if he wins the popular vote and loses, he just might change his mind. At his age this is realistically his only chance of ever becoming president.

poido123
02-13-2016, 01:14 AM
Hillary is more crime boss than politician. Ruthless, cunning. Even the federales are trying to hit her with some RICO charges.

But she's untouchable. Changes the rules as she sees fit.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/5f/13/cd/5f13cd5881d6bb1e864637454dc80993.jpg


You are so inconsistent.


You rag on the whiteys, but when it come to "anyone but Trump" bias, you can't help yourself :oldlol: