KAT Best 20 Year Old Rookie Ever

[FireDavidKahn]

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All-time best PER by 20-year-old rookies:
23.2 KARL-ANTHONY TOWNS
22.9 Shaquille O'Neal
22.1 Chris Paul
21.7 Chris Webber
20.6 Magic Johnson

:eek:

[72-10]

That says 20-year-old rookies, not 20-year-olds in general.

[scm5]

Shaq put up 23/14/2 with 3.5 bpg on 56%

KAT is putting up 17/10/1 and 1.8bpg on 54%

The only thing is KAT is a better FT shooter, other than that, the MDE dominates KAT in just about everything.

[Lebron23]

Bron at age 20 (Sophomore)

27.2 ppg on 48 FG%, 7.4 rpg, 7.2 apg, 2.2 spg, 0.7 bpg.

[FireDavidKahn]

That says 20-year-old rookies, not 20-year-olds in general.
You are correct.

[leMVP]

Bron at age 20 (Sophomore)

27.2 ppg on 48 FG%, 7.4 rpg, 7.2 apg, 2.2 spg, 0.7 bpg.

Kobe prime numbers there. :biggums:

[Kawhi]

Karl Towns: 17 points, 10 rebounds, 1 assist, 2 blocks
Shaquille O'Neal: 23 points, 14 rebounds, 2 assists, 4 blocks
Chris Paul: 16 points, 5 rebounds, 8 assists, 2 steals
Chris Webber: 18 points, 9 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 blocks
Magic Johnson: 18 points, 8 rebounds, 7 assists, 2 steals

Now tell me, is he really the best 20 year old rookie ever? PER is a meaningless stat.

[72-10]

I haven't watched him play, but I guess his game is adapting well to the NBA. As I recall, he played pretty poorly in last year's tournament.

[Lebron23]

Kobe prime numbers there. :biggums:


Welcome back bro.

[72-10]

Karl Towns: 17 points, 10 rebounds, 1 assist, 2 blocks
Shaquille O'Neal: 23 points, 14 rebounds, 2 assists, 4 blocks
Chris Paul: 16 points, 5 rebounds, 8 assists, 2 steals
Chris Webber: 18 points, 9 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 blocks
Magic Johnson: 18 points, 8 rebounds, 7 assists, 2 steals

Now tell me, is he really the best 20 year old rookie ever? PER is a meaningless stat.

In terms of the whole season, it would have to be Magic Johnson. He played wonderfully in the 1980 Finals, even filling in at center in Game 6. He set all kinds of Finals rookie records.

[AngelEyes]

In terms of the whole season, it would have to be Magic Johnson. He played wonderfully in the 1980 Finals, even filling in at center in Game 6. He set all kinds of Finals rookie records.

Well you'd be wrong then, the obvious choice is Shaquille o'neal. If Shaq played on a team with someone as good as kareem Abdul Jabbar he would have won that series in 4 games.

[72-10]

Well you'd be wrong then, the obvious choice is Shaquille o'neal. If Shaq played on a team with someone as good as kareem Abdul Jabbar he would have won that series in 4 games.

But he didn't. Ergo, the answer would be Magic Johnson. Also, how would Shaq beat Jordan's Bulls? He got swept two years later in the Finals by Hakeem and the Rockets, and he had a prime Penny Hardaway.

[buddha]

Kobe prime numbers there. :biggums:


lebrons prime too. shame he never elevated his game from when he was 20.

he truly could have been the greatest of all-time.

[AngelEyes]

But he didn't. Ergo, the answer would be Magic Johnson. Also, how would Shaq beat Jordan's Bulls? He got swept two years later in the Finals by Hakeem and the Rockets, and he had a prime Penny Hardaway.

That's not what I said. I said that if rookie Shaq played with someone as good as Kareem he would win that series in 4 games. That series meaning the 1980 NBA finals.

[72-10]

I would say the answer is Magic Johnson. Shaq would be #2 since he didn't actually do that.

[AngelEyes]

But he didn't. Ergo, the answer would be Magic Johnson. Also, how would Shaq beat Jordan's Bulls? He got swept two years later in the Finals by Hakeem and the Rockets, and he had a prime Penny Hardaway.

I also don't think that was a prime Penny Hardaway. I don't think he ever reached his prime, injuries derailed that. Penny was still only 23 years old. A 23 year old Penny is a far cry from Prime Kareem. Peak Olajuwon is also more daunting than a Prime Julius Erving.

[AngelEyes]

I would say the answer is Magic Johnson. Shaq would be #2 since he didn't actually do that.

So Magic gets the nod because he was fortunate enough to be drafted into one of the two best organizations in basketball which also happened to have the greatest player in the game already on their team? Sounds fair...

[72-10]

I also don't think that was a prime Penny Hardaway. I don't think he ever reached his prime, injuries derailed that. Penny was still only 23 years old. A 23 year old Penny is a far cry from Prime Kareem. Peak Olajuwon is also more daunting than a Prime Julius Erving.

Yeah, Penny probably didn't reach his peak, but he was playing great, like Grant Hill great.

[72-10]

So Magic gets the nod because he was fortunate enough to be drafted into one of the two best organizations in basketball which also happened to have the greatest player in the game already on their team? Sounds fair...

He won an NBA championship his rookie season. Do you know how good Magic was in that Finals? Don't just forget about Game 6.

[AngelEyes]

He won an NBA championship his rookie season. Do you know how good Magic was in that Finals? Don't just forget about Game 6.

That's great. I am not saying Magic wasn't phenomenal. But do you know how absurdly dominant Shaq already was in his rookie season? As soon as he stepped onto an NBA floor he was completely unguardable. He was a force of nature.

[72-10]

Magic's 1980 Finals numbers:

Game 1: 16 points on 8-12 fg, 9 rebounds, 10 assists to 2 turnovers, 3 steals
Game 2: 13 points on 5-8 fg, 8 rebounds, 11 assists to 5 turnovers, 2 steals
Game 3: 16 points on 6-12 fg, 11 rebounds, 5 assists to 5 turnovers, 2 steals
Game 4: 28 points on 10-14 fg, 9 rebounds, 9 assists to 3 turnovers, 3 steals
Game 5: 14 points on 4-13 fg, 15 rebounds, 10 assists to 10 turnovers, 3 steals
Game 6: 42 points on 14-23 fg, 15 rebounds, 7 assists to 5 turnovers, 3 steals

Yeah, he turned the ball over a lot, but he made up for it with his steals.

[72-10]

That's great. I am not saying Magic wasn't phenomenal. But do you know how absurdly dominant Shaq already was in his rookie season? As soon as he stepped onto an NBA floor he was completely unguardable. He was a force of nature.

Yeah, I do. It's just that I think the deciding factor would be winning the NBA championship considering how well Magic did in those Finals. His Game 6 is remembered more than anything Shaq did his rookie season despite his dominance. I know that Shaq had little help around him, they didn't even make the playoffs, but to each his own.

[FireDavidKahn]

In the past 9 games, he's averaging 23.2 points, 12.3 rebounds, and 2 blocks.:biggums: :eek: :banana:

[AngelEyes]

In the past 9 games, he's averaging 23.2 points, 12.3 rebounds, and 2 blocks.:biggums: :eek: :banana:

What's scary about him is that he can consistently play in the post like a traditional big man but he also is an excellent shooter that has range out to the three point line. And he shooting 85% from the foul line. . .

[72-10]

Pretty rare that someone this tall shoots this well from the foul line.

[AngelEyes]

Pretty rare that someone this tall shoots this well from the foul line.

It's a great asset because you'll never be able to hack-a-shaq this guy. He'll actually be a go to guy at the end of the games when you're just shooting free throws. It appears that he's going to be one of the most complete players of his generation.

[Kingwillball]

I haven't watched him play, but I guess his game is adapting well to the NBA. As I recall, he played pretty poorly in last year's tournament.

U must of recalled the wrong guy.. Towns carries Kentucky almost single handily against ND to advanced to final 4..

[72-10]

U must of recalled the wrong guy.. Towns carries Kentucky almost single handily against ND to advanced to final 4..

The team as a whole was overrated from watching the tournament games (not to mention other obvious aspects). But Towns was a part of that. Against Cincinnati he scored 8 points, and he followed that up with a 1 point performance against West Virginia. He got into foul trouble against Cincinnati, West Virginia and Notre Dame.

[FKAri]

He has accomplished by age 20 more than any human in history.

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

PER isn't a very good metric

[jayfan]

Bron at age 20 (Sophomore)

27.2 ppg on 48 FG%, 7.4 rpg, 7.2 apg, 2.2 spg, 0.7 bpg.

There's a bigger difference between being a rookie & sophomore than there is between being 19 & 20.









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[Andrei89]

He has accomplished by age 20 more than any human in history.
:lol :lol :lol :lol

[Queen Sansa]

Duncan, Shaq, Magic were all better than him. Good company though.

[Kingwillball]

Towns last 10-15 games his game has gone to another level while his season stats are very good for a rookie his stats last 10-15 games would be one step below MVP candidate level 23,12,3,3..I expect his season scoring and rebounding averages to continue to rise the 2nd half of season finishing season averaging 18/11/2 which is sexy rookie numbers a d amoung some of the best ever for a big..

[nba_55]

He has accomplished by age 20 more than any human in history.
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