"The superstars in the 60's and 70's were good. It's just the roleplayers weren't"

[CavaliersFTW]

Heard this opinion many times. People speculating off a lack of evidence and drawing this assumption.

Here's a career "roleplayer". 9 point, 9 reb, 2a player from the mid 60's that battled against Wilt's teams for half a dozen years up until his final year playing against rookie Larry Bird and Magic Johnson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FKqwZEoJ7U

[Jameerthefear]

I'm not watching your sped up bullshit videos

[Akrazotile]

nice vid

[FKAri]

Hold on. Wait a minute. Wait just one minute! Who said the superstars in the 60's and 70's were good?

[Psileas]

That pass at 3:43. :applause: Today they'd have whistled a foul, just so ESPN can put the pass in the highlight reel.

[La Frescobaldi]

do you have the whole game?

silas, bellamy, pete maravich, connie hawkins, 7 footer mel counts who got notoriety on that 1969 finals game 7 lol as if he was ever anything, lou hudson. walt hazzard too.

walt hazzard was a somewhat dirtier player than many but he had a lot of moves. got in fights played to win. it was kinda chumplike the way he followed Kareem. If you can picture correy brewer with being somewhat dirty in a way - that same full out trying to win every possession attitude corey has. hazzard was a big star in college over at ucla seems like he was teammates with gail goodrich?

bill bridges? that guy was strong af his problem was being too slow for a guard too short for a forward. they ended up using him as a power rebounder and box guys out but he had a pretty nice jumper and could play strong defense although he was kinda clumsy and bridges was a guy you could depend on to hard foul your stars. i just looked him up on google did not know he had passed away just a few months ago.

this game is from a long f@cking time ago man it's weird i can remember almost all these guys but i can't remember a lot of later 80s or 90s guys for beans. there got to be way too many teams to keep up with plus of course the work blizzard but still it seems like 20 years vs 40 you'd remember more the later guys. game got to be all about the stars at some point and the other guys fade into the woodwork. maybe it was always that way

[theaussieguy]

was a totally different game, I don't think it was necessarily that they were less talented, but they were far more constrained by the rules that are technically still around today, but not utilized. 90% or more dribbles in this day and age would be called a travel or carry in the rules of old, hence their dorky nerdy white boi way of dribbling back then.

[La Frescobaldi]

was a totally different game, I don't think it was necessarily that they were less talented, but they were far more constrained by the rules that are technically still around today, but not utilized. 90% or more dribbles in this day and age would be called a travel or carry in the rules of old, hence their dorky nerdy white boi way of dribbling back then.
all the skills rules are long gone man. long long gone.

let alone ball handling skills rules either...... they hardly even call travelling lmao i was watching shaqtin a fool the other day draymond green 12 freaking steps no whistle
of course.... lebron travelled

[jongib369]

all the skills rules are long gone man. long long gone.

let alone ball handling skills rules either...... they hardly even call travelling lmao i was watching shaqtin a fool the other day draymond green 12 freaking steps no whistle
of course.... lebron travelled
The game is on youtube, just not of the quality Cavs posted. The version Ive seen is under the same guy who posted the video for this http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=398258

Cavs version is likely bought, I've got the same version he does of Knicks VS bullets bought from iTunes for a couple bucks...Maybe it's there too?

[jongib369]

Some other scrub fillers in the 60's


6-2 175lbs point guard '64-'73

Jim King "Hood N*99@" highlight mix: http://youtu.be/m4_Hgsnncc0

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-o94v7Ps1ufo/UCm9kA2iw6I/AAAAAAAADjE/X85uUsUWLGI/s800/season_1965_1966%2520Jim%2520King.jpg

Regular Season:
7.2ppg (.418fg% .782ft%) 2.5rpg 2.3apg

Playoffs:
8.2ppg (.436fg% .728ft%) 3.4rpg 2.5apg

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/123/f/1/jimmyking1964_by_dantheman9758-d4ygg1c.gif

:bowdown:


http://oi64.tinypic.com/2ytwkqo.jpg

Mike Riordan (Knicks at Bullets, 3.4.1973 Full Highlights)
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWNAKxZPpIA)

Career Regular Season
9 pts, .8 steals, 2.4 assists, 2.9 rebounds .470FG%, .744FT%

[senelcoolidge]

I always remember Riordan for punching Rick Barry during the 1975 finals. There was a big brawl, Al Attles almost fought the Bullet players.

[ShawkFactory]

Yea 1-12 the players are just better now. Not because there's a genetic predisposition, but there's more people.

[La Frescobaldi]

Some other scrub fillers in the 60's




http://oi64.tinypic.com/2ytwkqo.jpg

Mike Riordan (Knicks at Bullets, 3.4.1973 Full Highlights)
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWNAKxZPpIA)

Career Regular Season
9 pts, .8 steals, 2.4 assists, 2.9 rebounds .470FG%, .744FT%

These are better examples than Paul Silas tbqh. Although Riordan in his days really scorched a lot of guys.

Silas wasn't ever a top level guy like a Chet Walker but it's very very doubtful the Celtics won their '70s rings without him. Dude was full-bore when he had good teams around him....... he even won a ring later on maybe his last season with DJ in Seattle. He was long long past his days but he still added a lot of value to any team right to up the end