Why so many American don't believe in global warming despite all the facts?

[nba_55]

A poll revealed that around 70 % of Americans didn't believe it. :biggums: How can someone ignore so many facts?

[gigantes]

it's complicated. if you search for any of the dozens of global warming threads here, you'll see plenty of first-hand testimonials.

beyond that, i don't think it's too hard to understand why the people of the most resource-consumptive nation per individual on earth would want to trust science on this issue. it's infinitely more worrisome to understand the facts.

[Akrazotile]

A poll revealed that around 70 % of Americans didn't believe it. :biggums: How can someone ignore so many facts?


:roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

Because there are facts that global warming and global cooling happen naturally over the course of time. Simple as that.

[christian1923]

Who has time to care? Me caring ain't gonna change shit. Imma get money, enjoy my life and family, f**k bitches, then die.

[robert de niro]

Who has time to care? Me caring ain't gonna change shit. Imma get money, enjoy my life and family, f**k bitches, then die.
no one mentioned anything about caring, it's about believing or not, but I guess you don't have time to read either.

[Akrazotile]

no one mentioned anything about caring, it's about believing or not, but I guess you don't have time to read either.


Which is the key distinction for the climate change witch hunters. They're not concerned with whether or not you care. They want you to believe everything exactly as they do or else you're the enemy

Climate truther: You better believe in global warming you stupid redneck racist jerk!!!! Bible thumping hillbilly asshole!!!!
Person: Uh, ok. You should probably kill your pets then. They contribute to the global biomass and consume processed food, including meat which is bad for the environment.
Climate truther: *calls you racist then runs away crying*


Religion truther: Shut up about your stupid fairyman!!!! Jesus is a ghost story, you dumb piece of shit hick, **** YOU!!!!"
Person: Ok. Well if we're evolved from animals created by a random bang, we have no reason as the dominant society not to enslave other peoples for our own benefit.
Religion truther: *calls you racist then runs away crying*


These people don't care about real truth or their own hypocrisy. Either you believe and accept what makes THEM feel important and superior, since typically they have no masculinity, accomlishments, intellect etc to rest their laurels on... or else you're on the shitlist.

That's the name of the game.

[christian1923]

no one mentioned anything about caring, it's about believing or not, but I guess you don't have time to read either.
Not believing and not caring is the same thing in this case.

[knickballer]

Thing is, alot of the climate change deniers aren't even religious nuts or super religious. Alot of them have this anti-establishment theory and the "Truth Seeking" mentality. They're very skeptical about the government on most issues and they're some what conspirators. To them climate change is a hoax perpetuated by the elite to control resources, to limit the third world's economic progress, to destabilize Russia/Iran, etc. Not really about religion but they may thrown in some jesus lines to try and give their arguments some credible evidence. Alot of them will also believe in conspiracy theories such as chemtrails, flouride, gun control, NWO, etc. Some theories are credible while some aren't.

So to OP's answer I think alot of it is due to American's distrust in the government and the "establishment".

PS, I've met alot of religious Christians who strongly believe humans are causing climate change. Although, christians over here(NY) are pretty liberal and open minded for the most part I find.

[Akrazotile]

Thing is, alot of the climate change deniers aren't even religious nuts or super religious of them. Alot of them have this anti-establishment theory and this "Truth Seeking" mentality. They're very skeptical about the government on most issues and they're essentially conspirators. To them climate change is a hoax perpetuated by the elite to control resources, to limit the third world's economic progress, to destabilize Russia/Iran, etc. Alot of them will also believe in conspiracy theories such as chemtrails, flouride, gun control, NWO, etc. Some theories are credible while some aren't.

So to OP's answer I think alot of it is due to American's distrust in the government and the "establishment".

PS, I've met alot of religious Christians who strongly believe humans are causing climate change. Although, christians over here(NY) are pretty liberal and open minded for the most part I find.


There's no question that adding carbon to the air (which all animals do just by breathing, let alone things like burning fossil fuels etc.) and increasing the biomass will contribute to a change in temperature over time. It's no different than stuffing 30 people in a small room. Body heat will make the shit feel warmer. The more organisms on Earth - especially ones that use a lot of energy, like mammals - the more heat gets converted from that energy.

What people are skeptical about is HOW MUCH this is contributing to any observed shift in the climate, since the Earth itself does go through natural cycles on its own. It's literally impossible to tell what degree human activity contributes to the shift. But Climate Truthers jump up and down like monkeys insisting that if you don't agree with their chart about exactly how much direct impact humans are having, you're an ignorant hick.

But if we DO wanna play it safe - we need to reduce the biomass (pets, prisoners, third world countries) which will also allow us to reduce the amount of cattle, reduce deforestation that continues to happen in order to make way for crops that need to feed an ever growing global population. More trees, less people.

We're worried about the climate change 2-3 billion industrialized people are causing... but we wanna make sure 8 billion people are industrialized in the next 50-100 years :lol

Even though we're just evolved stardust caused by a bang with no objective rhyme or reason to our existence... but somehow preserving the planet by styming the growth of strangers across the world is 'wrong' because liberals say so.


:confusedshrug:

I dunno man. The logic is weird.

[Patrick Chewing]

Yeah no one is denying climate change. We're denying that humanity plays such an integral part.

[Akrazotile]

Yeah no one is denying climate change. We're denying that humanity plays such an integral part.


Doesn't fit the narrative.

"Every Republican definitively believes the Earth's temperature remains the same every year, because Bible."

^ This is the official liberal strawman on the issue. It is not to be amended.

[nba_55]

Yeah no one is denying climate change. We're denying that humanity plays such an integral part.

CO2 concentration in the atmosphere didn't change for like 25 millions years. Since the industrial revolution, it had gone up like never before (exponentially). And combustion of oil, coal does release CO2. Since humans use them a lot, it's not hard to believe that they are responsible the concentrations going so high.
CO2 does contribute to global warming.

[UK2K]

Yeah no one is denying climate change. We're denying that humanity plays such an integral part.
Correct.

There's obvious signs of pollution, but I'm not convinced were changing the entire climate.

[Im Still Ballin]

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[Im Still Ballin]

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[FillJackson]

A poll revealed that around 70 % of Americans didn't believe it. :biggums: How can someone ignore so many facts?
I don't believe in it, because Trump told me it was created by China to ruin America.

It's part of political correctness. Did you know that if you care about civil rights or equal rights, you're part of conspiracy of Cultural Marxism to undermine the West? It started in the Frankfurt school. Here's a helpful video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghx3d1GiAc0).

[nba_55]

http://climate.nasa.gov/system/content_pages/main_images/203_co2-graph-080315.jpg

[UK2K]

CO2 concentration in the atmosphere didn't change for like 25 millions years. Since the industrial revolution, it had gone up like never before (exponentially). And combustion of oil, coal does release CO2. Since humans use them a lot, it's not hard to believe that they are responsible the concentrations going so high.
CO2 does contribute to global warming.
The earth tilting 1/100th of a degree on its axis affects the weather too.

Humans cause CO2, CO2 contributes to global warming, thus humans are causing global warming. That's your argument. But there's lots of things that affect the climate, obviously, because it hasn't been consistent at any point in the last million years.

[nba_55]

The earth tilting 1/100th of a degree on its axis affects the weather too.

Humans cause CO2, CO2 contributes to global warming, thus humans are causing global warming. That's your argument. But there's lots of things that affect the climate, obviously, because it hasn't been consistent at any point in the last million years.

They have models taking in account all of those variables. With those models, they can't explain the current change, but as soon as they add the human contribution, they can reproduce the current changes with the model. The axis changes are easy to predict because it's a cycle, they can be easily put in a model.

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[DeuceWallaces]

They have models taking in account all of those variables. With those models, they can't explain the current change, but as soon as they add the human contribution, they can reproduce the current changes with the model. The axis changes are easy to predict because it's a cycle, they can be easily put in a model.

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Morons like this have no concept of statistics, advanced modeling, science, research, etc. You're just wasting your time trying to explain it to them.

[Norcaliblunt]

I never felt scaring people with Armageddon was a great way to enact policy change. Global warming is the left's boogie man to project fear just like how the right uses terrorism. Both climate change and terrorism may very well be a threat, but they are blown up out of proportion for political/oligarchical benefit, and the currant methods the ruling class uses to combat these issues are useless and lightweight oppressive. Essentially climate change is rooted in anti-human Malthusian population control philosophy. If left wing oligarchs and evironmentists were really tripping on the earth and its citizens they would have a concrete strategic plan to rebuild/modernize infrastructure with modern technology. Mag lev trains, electric cars, and yes another boogie man modern responsible nuclear technology. But they don't. They wanna make you feel bad for being a human.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Inasmuch as it tends to promote scary things like "science", conservatives tend to suspiciously regard man-made climate change (and higher education in general) as an construct of liberal dogma.

In other words, being open-minded and learning new things tends to steer more towards a liberal mindset; closing your mind and spurning things you don't understand as bad or wrong leans more in the conservative camp... hence why liberals are usually on the camp of trying new things, expanding rights to disenfranchised, harnessing science, etc...and conservatives fight change like hell and try desperately to return to 1952.

[Norcaliblunt]

I have no problem with cleaning up the earth, but if you want people to take it seriously you have to produce a candidate or some scientific figure who can publicly in the mainstream illustrate comprehensively how we will do this through technology and innovation. Just spewing vague sound bites about carbon taxes, green energy, and expecting people to out of nowhere start consuming less is just not going to cut it. You need to present a complete global blueprint on redesigning the earths energy and industrial infrastructure without population control or reverting back to less prosperous times.

[Draz]

It's been two degrees all day fam

What warning

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[gigantes]

I have no problem with cleaning up the earth, but if you want people to take it seriously you have to produce a candidate or some scientific figure who can publicly in the mainstream illustrate comprehensively how we will do this through technology and innovation. Just spewing vague sound bites about carbon taxes, green energy, and expecting people to out of nowhere start consuming less is just not going to cut it. You need to present a complete global blueprint on redesigning the earths energy and industrial infrastructure without population control or reverting back to less prosperous times.
i wouldn't even worry about it.

even when international accords are agreed upon, they're pretty much far too little, far too late.
most nations want to see others pick up the slack, particularly western nations. and they
have a point-- the USA for example is far more culpable than anyone else.

the paris accords are basically a sincere effort to effect action, watered down by the reality
of politics, compromise, and the fact that change can only happen so fast in the midst of the
very complex situation the world finds itself in today.

scientists and the science academies are the ones who should primarily be setting the agenda
on this stuff, but that's never been the way science works-- otherwise technological progress
would have been far more cautious and sustainable over the centuries and not dominated by
opportunists and economics the way it is now and pretty much has always been.

[jstern]

Subject like global warming and what one thinks of it, here in the USA is not about what facts there are, but rather about blindly following your team, and having your team win. Political team. It's about winning.