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Ca$H
02-14-2016, 04:17 PM
http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/02/14/michael-jordan-to-klay-thompson-go-ahead-and-break-bulls-72-win-record/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

IncarceratedBob
02-14-2016, 04:21 PM
Klay to MJ "Who the **** are you"

STATUTORY
02-14-2016, 04:22 PM
Klay to MJ "Who the **** are you"


http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/t_article_image/qrkx5messu0hweahnzr6.png

beastee
02-14-2016, 05:36 PM
Jordan is so ****ing alpha. Giving his blessing and not caring since he knows his team would bounce these Warriors.

Inferno
02-14-2016, 05:40 PM
:applause:

HenryGarfunkle
02-14-2016, 05:54 PM
Klay is the best shooter I've ever seen.

Where do y'all rank him among SG's? Is he the best? You got Harden, Butler, and you got Klay. Tough call.

AngelEyes
02-14-2016, 05:56 PM
Klay is the best shooter I've ever seen.

Where do y'all rank him among SG's? Is he the best? You got Harden, Butler, and you got Klay. Tough call.

You never seen Steph? Steph's better, dude. Doesn't matter if klay beats him in an exhibition shooting contest, Steph shoots better when it counts. Is he the best 2 guard. Tough to tell, this is a very weak era for two guards, he may be the best though.

aj1987
02-14-2016, 06:22 PM
Jordan is so ****ing alpha. Giving his blessing and not caring since he knows his team would bounce these Warriors.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Warriors in 5.

Lebronxrings
02-14-2016, 06:24 PM
nice of jordan. Now if only his stans wouldn't be so insecure about this.

AngelEyes
02-14-2016, 06:24 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Warriors in 5.

Depends on what rules they're playing under. Under 1996 rules I'll take the Bulls, under today's loose defensive rules the Warriors have a good shot.

MiseryCityTexas
02-14-2016, 06:28 PM
Klay is the best shooter I've ever seen.

Where do y'all rank him among SG's? Is he the best? You got Harden, Butler, and you got Klay. Tough call.


I think Klay can be just as good as Harden if he was put in a situation to be a first option go-to guy. he just needs to drive to the basket a lot more if he had his own team.

aj1987
02-14-2016, 06:29 PM
Depends on what rules they're playing under. Under 1996 rules I'll take the Bulls, under today's loose defensive rules the Warriors have a good shot.
The Warriors win in 5 under any rules. Wipe that MJ juice off of your face and actually watch Curry play.

GrapeApe
02-14-2016, 06:30 PM
Klay is the best shooter I've ever seen.

Where do y'all rank him among SG's? Is he the best? You got Harden, Butler, and you got Klay. Tough call.

You could argue that Klay is the best in relation to his role, but he doesn't get the defensive attention of some of the other top SG's. Teams aren't game planning to stop him. I think he would struggle as a first option, especially since he isn't a great creator or rim attacker.

HenryGarfunkle
02-14-2016, 06:36 PM
You could argue that Klay is the best in relation to his role, but he doesn't get the defensive attention of some of the other top SG's. Teams aren't game planning to stop him. I think he would struggle as a first option, especially since he isn't a great creator or rim attacker.
Harden is a better first option.

Klay is a better fit for teams like the Warriors or Spurs.

Now that I think about it, I'd rather have Klay on teams like the Cavs and the Thunder too. He doesn't need the ball in his hands, he'd space the floor, he plays defense, and he's one of the best catch and shoot players in the league.

Klay is a better fit for contending teams, to me that gives him the edge over Harden or Butler even though those two might be better "first options" on mediocre to good teams.

AngelEyes
02-14-2016, 06:38 PM
Harden is a better first option.

Klay is a better fit for teams like the Warriors or Spurs.

Now that I think about it, I'd rather have Klay on teams like the Cavs and the Thunder too. He doesn't need the ball in his hands, he'd space the floor, he plays defense, and he's one of the best catch and shoot players in the league.

Klay is a better fit for contending teams, to me that gives him the edge over Harden or Butler even though those two might be better "first options" on mediocre to good teams.

Harden is a lousy first option. You don't want him leading your team over the long haul. Too inefficient, too many turnovers, defense is too bad, too reliant on free throws and he's an awful leader.

jongib369
02-14-2016, 06:40 PM
The Warriors win in 5 under any rules. Wipe that MJ juice off of your face and actually watch Curry play.
Wipe that Curry juice off your face and watch how Jordan/The Bulls play.

Beat them in 5, under 90s or today's rules....GTFO :lol

How are you not in the Red? I'd expect you to be 4-6 yeas younger than me, not 4 years older

aj1987
02-14-2016, 06:43 PM
Harden is a lousy first option. You don't want him leading your team over the long haul. Too inefficient, too many turnovers, defense is too bad, too reliant on free throws and he's an awful leader.
MJ first 7 seasons - 59% TS
Karen first 7 seasons - 61% TS

Agree with the rest though.


Wipe that Curry juice off your face and watch how Jordan/The Bulls play.

Beat them in 5, under 90s or today's rules....GTFO :lol

How are you not in the Red? I'd expect you to be 4-6 yeas younger than me, not 4 years older
Dude, you suck Chokerlain harder than Lozerus. You really shouldn't being talking about juices. :oldlol:

That being said, I've probably watched more basketball in the past year than you have in your entire life. Stop watching those grainy shity they pass off as basketball and try to watch a couple of game from the '90's or even today. Watch Curry play. Watch how the team plays. Try to understand the team plays, defenses, and how the team actually works.

You do know that Curry routinely walks up and launches a 30+ footer with 16+ seconds, right? Dude is basically unguardable and this is coming from someone who actually hates 3pt shooters.

EDIT: Oh, and if you think I give a shit about my rep, you're mistaken. I really am not that invested in maintaining a couple of tiny ass green dots below my name.

HenryGarfunkle
02-14-2016, 06:45 PM
Harden is a lousy first option. You don't want him leading your team over the long haul. Too inefficient, too many turnovers, defense is too bad, too reliant on free throws and he's an awful leader.
But he'd win more with less than Butler or Klay as the first option. IMO.

He's just a better creator than those two.

beastee
02-14-2016, 06:47 PM
The Warriors win in 5 under any rules. Wipe that MJ juice off of your face and actually watch Curry play.
Can I get some of that Kush? You are just an idiot to think Jordan who never went to a game 7 would need anything less than 6 games. But carry on with your young idealism.

DonDadda59
02-14-2016, 06:49 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Warriors in 5.

Took a tight 6 game series for them to beat 2/6 with Matthew Dellavadova and Tristan Thompson as his help... But they beat the Bulls in 5? :yaohappy:

Also never got the impression that Jordan gave 2 shits about 72 wins.

aj1987
02-14-2016, 06:51 PM
Can I get some of that Kush? You are just an idiot to think Jordan who never went to a game 7 would need anything less than 6 games. But carry on with your young idealism.
:biggums:

The **** are you even talking about? The '16 Warriors CRUSH the Bulls. Deal with it, dude. MJ has NEVER faced a team like the '16 Warriors.


Took a tight 6 game series for them to beat 2/6 with Matthew Dellavadova and Tristan Thompson as his help... But they beat the Bulls in 5?

Also never got the impression that Jordan gave 2 shits about 72 wins.
Figured that dumbass MJ turds wouldn't understand the difference between the '15 and '16 Warriors. :yaohappy:

It's actually HILARIOUS seeing the MJ turds in full force trying to defend their sole purpose of existence though. :oldlol:

D. Toretto
02-14-2016, 07:12 PM
I like that he isn't talking them down, or ranting about how teams back in the day were way better. Kudos to MJ :applause:

90sgoat
02-14-2016, 07:31 PM
MJ first 7 seasons - 59% TS
Karen first 7 seasons - 61% TS

Agree with the rest though.


Dude, you suck Chokerlain harder than Lozerus. You really shouldn't being talking about juices. :oldlol:

That being said, I've probably watched more basketball in the past year than you have in your entire life. Stop watching those grainy shity they pass off as basketball and try to watch a couple of game from the '90's or even today. Watch Curry play. Watch how the team plays. Try to understand the team plays, defenses, and how the team actually works.

You do know that Curry routinely walks up and launches a 30+ footer with 16+ seconds, right? Dude is basically unguardable and this is coming from someone who actually hates 3pt shooters.

EDIT: Oh, and if you think I give a shit about my rep, you're mistaken. I really am not that invested in maintaining a couple of tiny ass green dots below my name.

Ron Harper, MJ and Pippen would never allow Curry to walk the ball up, they'd take turns being glued to him full court pressure with handchecking and skin tight defense.

You really don't understand what you're watching, go see how MJ and Pippen full court covered Magic in 1991, that's how they'd play Curry, one on one straight up and Curry would be called for travel every time he does one of his cute carry crossovers.

jstern
02-14-2016, 07:38 PM
This could be a trick. Like the interview that he gave when he turned 50, and praised Kobe for going all out just so that his team, the one with Howard and Nash could make the playoff. It caused Kobe to play even more minutes, thus rupturing his Achilles, delaying the time that it took for Kobe to pass him on all time scoring list.

This might cause the Warriors to relax, giving them the feeling like it's definitely going to happen.

inclinerator
02-14-2016, 07:48 PM
mj has gotten soft over the years

aj1987
02-14-2016, 07:50 PM
Ron Harper, MJ and Pippen would never allow Curry to walk the ball up, they'd take turns being glued to him full court pressure with handchecking and skin tight defense.

You really don't understand what you're watching, go see how MJ and Pippen full court covered Magic in 1991, that's how they'd play Curry, one on one straight up and Curry would be called for travel every time he does one of his cute carry crossovers.
As I said, try to wipe that MJ juice off of your face and watch Curry play:

https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/currryyyyy.gif?w=1000
http://s1.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/steph-curry-smooth-layup-stephen-curry-gifs.gif
http://s1.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/curry-slick-moves-vs-spurs-stephen-curry-gifs.gif
https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/stephcurrycrossover.gif?w=576&h=324

Look at what he did to the DPOY:

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2016/1/25/10831814/not-even-kawhi-leonard-can-guard-stephen-curry

I'm not even a Curry fan, but I can admit the FACT that the guy can WRECK any defense.

SexSymbol
02-14-2016, 07:52 PM
Jordan is so ****ing alpha. Giving his blessing and not caring since he knows his team would bounce these Warriors.
Warriors would handle the bulls quite easily.
Way move advanced offensively and defensively

DonDadda59
02-14-2016, 07:55 PM
As I said, try to wipe that MJ juice off of your face and watch Curry play:

https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/currryyyyy.gif?w=1000
http://s1.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/steph-curry-smooth-layup-stephen-curry-gifs.gif
http://s1.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/curry-slick-moves-vs-spurs-stephen-curry-gifs.gif
https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/stephcurrycrossover.gif?w=576&h=324

Look at what he did to the DPOY:

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2016/1/25/10831814/not-even-kawhi-leonard-can-guard-stephen-curry

I'm not even a Curry fan, but I can admit the FACT that the guy can WRECK any defense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op04VjvcpBY :yaohappy:

And that's by far the most 'physical' defense Chef has ever seen in his career.

90sgoat
02-14-2016, 08:02 PM
https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/stephcurrycrossover.gif?w=576&h=324

At least two carries in that gif by 90s rules:roll:

How about you watch the press defense in the first 2 minutes here, turnover machine Curry would average more turnovers than assists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9u3TwLdgoM

You're probably not going to watch it though.

aj1987
02-14-2016, 08:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op04VjvcpBY :yaohappy:

And that's by far the most 'physical' defense Chef has ever seen in his career.
How does your dumbass still not understand that we're talking about the '16 Warriors and '16 Curry? :facepalm

Oh, and it'd be so much fun watching Curry draining 3 after 3 in MJ's face. Dude would be like:

http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/t_article_image/qrkx5messu0hweahnzr6.png


At least two carries in that gif by 90s rules:roll:

How about you watch the press defense in the first 2 minutes here, turnover machine Curry would average more turnovers than assists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9u3TwLdgoM

You're probably not going to watch it though.
Yeah, because we've never seen players in the '90's do the same shit. You MJ turds... :oldlol: Pathetic and insecure AF. A kid wins his first ever ring and MVP and you guys are crawling out of the woodwork.

DonDadda59
02-14-2016, 08:05 PM
At least two carries in that gif by 90s rules:roll:

How about you watch the press defense in the first 2 minutes here, turnover machine Curry would average more turnovers than assists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9u3TwLdgoM

You're probably not going to watch it though.

Yup, dudes nowadays have no clue the sort of hell that perimeter players in the 90s had to go through. Teams nowadays don't play defense until the opponent gets to their 3-pt line, and even then you're not allowed to play any defense on the perimeter.

Back then, defense was a full court affair with dudes literally getting mugged in the back court.

Perimeter players today have it MADE.

coin24
02-14-2016, 08:12 PM
At least two carries in that gif by 90s rules:roll:

How about you watch the press defense in the first 2 minutes here, turnover machine Curry would average more turnovers than assists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9u3TwLdgoM

You're probably not going to watch it though.


:bowdown: :bowdown:

I wish the game was still played like this. With hatred for the other team not this best buds shit:facepalm

90sgoat
02-14-2016, 08:13 PM
:bowdown: :bowdown:

I wish the game was still played like this. With hatred for the other team not this best buds shit:facepalm

Just isn't the same man.

jongib369
02-14-2016, 08:15 PM
Dude, you suck Chokerlain harder than Lozerus. You really shouldn't being talking about juices. :oldlol:

That being said, I've probably watched more basketball in the past year than you have in your entire life. Stop watching those grainy shity they pass off as basketball and try to watch a couple of game from the '90's or even today. Watch Curry play. Watch how the team plays. Try to understand the team plays, defenses, and how the team actually works.

You do know that Curry routinely walks up and launches a 30+ footer with 16+ seconds, right? Dude is basically unguardable and this is coming from someone who actually hates 3pt shooters.

EDIT: Oh, and if you think I give a shit about my rep, you're mistaken. I really am not that invested in maintaining a couple of tiny ass green dots below my name.

Bullshit. Yes I've watched countless hours of all levels of play, men or woman from the 80s, 70s, 60s, 50s, and 40s...But I've also watched countless hours of Basketball from the 90s... I've seen plenty of games, or breakdowns of Warriors play THIS season. You don't have to watch everygame, or entire games to understand what they're doing to the league. They're a great team, no doubt.But You're a joke of a poster if you think Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Harper and co get taken down in 5. The level of Curry cok guzzling that you're showing yourself to be capable of is only matched by Euroleagues infatuation with Vspan.


What about Ron Harper, who's been very vocal. Do you give him the treatment where -- I know he wasn't the best 3-point shooter -- Andrew Bogut guards him?

Kerr: Oh. Yeah. There's a good chance Bogut gets the Ron Harper assignment. That's where the triangle offense comes into play. I will give my salute to the triangle here. It was very difficult to do that sort of thing to the triangle because of the constant movement and the actions. You had a lot of ability to move people around, and you had a lot of back cuts. It would have been very difficult to do that sort of thing to the triangle.



Do you see Michael Jordan guarding Steph for long stretches? Do you see Scottie Pippen guarding Klay Thompson for long stretches?

Kerr: Well, I think the biggest similarity between the two teams is the versatility defensively. The Bulls teams, [former college and Warriors coach] Johnny Bach used to call Scottie and Michael "Dobermans." And Scottie, Michael, Dennis and Ron Harper, those guys would switch everything. That was the first team I was ever part of or that I ever saw that would just switch 1 through 4. And we could even switch 1 through 5 when we had [Toni] Kukoc out there. So in some ways, that team was like a precursor to the Warriors. So with the right matchups out there, you could have seen 10 players all switching on each other.

This isn't a near sweep like you're ignorantly implying.

Side note, I wonder how many games the Warriors could win against the 71 Bucks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEgfomjJVZE)... About as many as you think the Bulls could win against the Warriors?

DonDadda59
02-14-2016, 08:16 PM
:bowdown: :bowdown:

I wish the game was still played like this. With hatred for the other team not this best buds shit:facepalm

bloodbath (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28y59DjqVvs) :bowdown:

Damn I miss real basketball. :(

aj1987
02-14-2016, 08:25 PM
Bullshit. Yes I've watched countless hours of all levels of play, men or woman from the 80s, 70s, 60s, 50s, and 40s...But I've also watched countless hours of Basketball from the 90s... I've seen plenty of games, or breakdowns of Warriors play THIS season. You don't have to watch everygame, or entire games to understand what they're doing to the league. They're a great team, no doubt. You're a joke of a poster if you think Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Harper and co get taken down in 5. The level of Curry cok guzzling that you're showing yourself to be capable of is only matched by Euroleagues infatuation with Vspan.
Are you retarded or are you just too stupid from your countless sessions of Chokerlain fapping? You really should stick to mastrubating to '60's footage or spamming your retarder stat. I'm not even close to being a Curry fun. Look up my post history, idiot. That being said, with all the hyperbole in this thread, if you took my 5 games max post seriously, you have issues.

Honest post, Warriors can probably beat any of the Bulls teams in 6/7 games. They can stretch the floor better than the bulls, have 3 DPOY level defenders, 2 ATG shooters and a plethora of other good-great shooters, a deep AF bench, can pass like the Spurs, etc.. The team literally has everything.


This isn't a near sweep like you're ignorantly implying.

Side note, I wonder how many games the Warriors could win against the 71 Bucks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEgfomjJVZE)... About as many as you think the Bulls could win against the Warriors?
What is that supposed to prove?

If I find it, I'll post the source, but Curry is hitting 42%+ on contested 3's and ~35%+ on 3's on which he's actually hit.

As I said, stick to watching that garbage ass grainy footage and living in delusion thinking that Chokerlain is even close to being a top 5 GOAT.

Asukal
02-14-2016, 08:38 PM
Kudos to them if they break the record. This is an all time great GSW team and they deserve to be mentioned along the greatest teams of all time. They make it look too easy. :bowdown:

Hey Yo
02-14-2016, 08:54 PM
bloodbath (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28y59DjqVvs) :bowdown:

Damn I miss real basketball. :(
LOL @ "bloodbath"

2mins into video and still nothing's shown to even resemble that.

Hey Yo
02-14-2016, 08:56 PM
Jordan to Thompson

"you wanna bet____________________"



:oldlol:

97 bulls
02-14-2016, 10:28 PM
The Warriors are an awesome team. I've said this many times, the only way to beat them is to make Curry play defense. The Bulls were basically the the 90's version of the Warriors. They were the pioneers of small ball. They would often have Kukoc at center along with Rodman, Jordan, Pippen, and Harper. But they could also go big. And still be athletic enough to matchup with the Warriors when they go small. If they were to play this Warrior team, all they'd have to do is post up Curry. Sever the head. Get Curry out of the game by putting him in early foul trouble. He couldn't handle Jordan or Pippen or Kukoc. And good luck trying to get him to battle with a big like Rodman or Longley on the offensive boards if they try to put him on a big. We saw this exact same situation vs the Thunder when Westbrook took Curry to school early in the game, and then they switched Thompson on to him due to the fact that Westbrook was lighting him up like a Christmas tree.

1987_Lakers
02-14-2016, 10:59 PM
Both teams are similar in a sense that they both have great perimeter defenders and both like going small ball, but other than that I don't see any other similarities.

The Warriors offense is more explosive and fun to watch, Chicago had a great offense, but they didn't move the ball and shoot the way Golden State did. Both have very good defenses, but Chicago's defense was better.

Chicago has the better 1-2 punch by a good margin with MJ-Pippen, but 3-9 the Warriors have more talent, no doubt.

What I would love to see is how is Chicago going to respond to Golden State's 3 point shooting. Chicago won 72 games in a season where the 3 point line was short, with the normal 3 point line the Bulls are not a very good 3 point shooting team. The Warriors are one of the best ever at making 3s, I wonder if the 3 point shot would be a deciding factor in a series between these two teams.

It's still early for me to say which team would win, I have to see how the rest of the season plays out. But man, The Warriors going back to last season up until today are probably the best team I've witnessed. Some people didn't agree with me when I called the Warriors an all-time great team last summer, but now people see what I was saying.

1987_Lakers
02-14-2016, 11:11 PM
The Warriors are an awesome team. I've said this many times, the only way to beat them is to make Curry play defense. The Bulls were basically the the 90's version of the Warriors. They were the pioneers of small ball. They would often have Kukoc at center along with Rodman, Jordan, Pippen, and Harper. But they could also go big. And still be athletic enough to matchup with the Warriors when they go small. If they were to play this Warrior team, all they'd have to do is post up Curry. Sever the head. Get Curry out of the game by putting him in early foul trouble. He couldn't handle Jordan or Pippen or Kukoc. And good luck trying to get him to battle with a big like Rodman or Longley on the offensive boards if they try to put him on a big. We saw this exact same situation vs the Thunder when Westbrook took Curry to school early in the game, and then they switched Thompson on to him due to the fact that Westbrook was lighting him up like a Christmas tree.

The problem here is Curry would be guarding Ron Harper who was the starting PG for Chicago, he was a solid defender, but not much of a scorer at that point of his career. I don't see how Chicago would make Curry work on defense considering Jordan, Pippen, & some Kukoc did all the scoring for Chicago, Curry is NOT guarding those guys.

97 bulls
02-14-2016, 11:13 PM
Both teams are similar in a sense that they both have great perimeter defenders and both like going small ball, but other than that I don't see any other similarities.

The Warriors offense is more explosive and fun to watch, Chicago had a great offense, but they didn't move the ball and shoot the way Golden State did. Both have very good defenses, but Chicago's defense was better.

Chicago has the better 1-2 punch by a good margin with MJ-Pippen, but 3-9 the Warriors have more talent, no doubt.

What I would love to see is how is Chicago going to respond to Golden State's 3 point shooting. Chicago won 72 games in a season where the 3 point line was short, with the normal 3 point line the Bulls are not a very good 3 point shooting team. The Warriors are one of the best ever at making 3s, I wonder if the 3 point shot would be a deciding factor in a series between these two teams.

It's still early for me to say which team would win, I have to see how the rest of the season plays out. But man, The Warriors going back to last season up until today are probably the best team I've witnessed. Some people didn't agree with me when I called the Warriors an all-time great team last summer, but now people see what I was saying.
This Warrior team is an all time great. Anyone that says otherwise is hating. As far as yoir comment as to three point shooting, if the Bulls try to out score the Warriors, it will be over before it starts. The Bulls have the biggest and best advantage in attacking Curry in the post and getting him in foul trouble. Then applying major pressure in the second half to hopefully tire him out.

97 bulls
02-14-2016, 11:17 PM
The problem here is Curry would be guarding Ron Harper who was the starting PG for Chicago, he was a solid defender, but not much of a scorer at that point of his career. I don't see how Chicago would make Curry work on defense considering Jordan, Pippen, & some Kukoc did all the scoring for Chicago, Curry is NOT guarding those guys.
I wouldn't play Harper as much in a series between these two teams. And lets not forget, if the se two teams are playing under todays rules, the Bulls woukd benefit from not having to worry about illegal defense. It has been said that the Bulls defense was like having 6 or 7 guys out there. Todays rules would only make it easier

plowking
02-14-2016, 11:20 PM
Took a tight 6 game series for them to beat 2/6 with Matthew Dellavadova and Tristan Thompson as his help... But they beat the Bulls in 5? :yaohappy:

Also never got the impression that Jordan gave 2 shits about 72 wins.

Bro.

Kevin Hart.

1987_Lakers
02-14-2016, 11:29 PM
I wouldn't play Harper as much in a series between these two teams. And lets not forget, if the se two teams are playing under todays rules, the Bulls woukd benefit from not having to worry about illegal defense. It has been said that the Bulls defense was like having 6 or 7 guys out there. Todays rules would only make it easier

Nah, you have to play Ron Harper for his defense. Kerr would be killed out there guarding Curry if you decide to not play Harper much. Unless if you want to go with a Pippen/Jordan/Kukoc/Rodman/Longley lineup.

I will say that the only weakness Golden State has is that they turn the ball over too much at times, and Chicago's defense was pretty good at causing turnovers.

jongib369
02-14-2016, 11:32 PM
Nah, you have to play Ron Harper for his defense. Kerr would be killed out there guarding Curry if you decide to not play Harper much.

I will say that the only weakness Golden State has is that they turn the ball over too much at times, and Chicago's defense was pretty good at causing turnovers.
They do have another, but I'm not sure if it's really worth mentioning since there's no one in the league to exploit it :lol

1987_Lakers
02-14-2016, 11:39 PM
They do have another, but I'm not sure if it's really worth mentioning since there's no one in the league to exploit it :lol

And what is that? a big that can't score in the paint? If so, I agree, but the Warriors perimeter players are such great scorers & they move the ball well so it isn't really an issue.

If you are talking about paint defense I disagree. Bogut-Green is probably the best defensive frontline in the NBA.

Da_Realist
02-14-2016, 11:50 PM
I think the Bulls would be smart enough to see if Curry could make enough 30 foot shots to beat them 4 out of 7 games. Every other Warrior would have a harder time scoring consistently if the Bulls chose not to double or overextend. Phil hated doubling and would risk one man getting burned so the defense wouldn't be compromised completely. Even still, the Bulls always defended the pick-n-roll well because of their length and athleticism.

And unlike most of today's teams, the Bulls had an offensive system that consisted of more than just clearing out and going one-on-one. And even then MJ could score at will against such an open paint with his fluid midrange game. The Bulls would score, especially today, but would do so in the midrange area picking up fouls that would undermine GS's defense late in games. MJ, Pippen, Harper and Kukoc could all post up and score on mismatches. It would put a lot of pressure on Curry's 3's to keep up.

I think Rodman would be able to stay in front of Draymond Green and stop him from being the effective point guard that has allowed GS to take advantage of so many mismatches.

It will be interesting to see if a team (possibly San Antonio) decides to focus on shutting everyone else down and live with Curry hoisting up 3's all game come playoff time.

deja vu
02-14-2016, 11:54 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Warriors in 5.
It would be close but Rodman would be the difference maker. Bulls would have 10-15 extra possessions with him.

90sgoat
02-15-2016, 12:07 AM
GSW goes small ball look at Rodman grabbing 20+ rebounds every game.

Rodman would murder Draymond, straight murder straight jacket.

Klay and Curry are going to be seeing a rotation of MJ, Pippen, Harper, 3 of the best defensive perimeter guys ever.

Curry struggled with Delevadova, this time he'd face Kawhi Leonard x 2 every game.

Who is going to guard MJ, who is going to guard Pippen?

jongib369
02-15-2016, 12:34 AM
And what is that? a big that can't score in the paint? If so, I agree, but the Warriors perimeter players are such great scorers & they move the ball well so it isn't really an issue.

If you are talking about paint defense I disagree. Bogut-Green is probably the best defensive frontline in the NBA.
They're an amazing team all around, no doubt. But match their Elite perimeter threat with a great one, along with an Elite inside threat I'd say it'd give them a run for their money.

Guys like Davie Robinson, Hakeem, Ewing, Shaq, Duncan, Wilt, Kareem etc would really work Bogut. Some I'd go as far as saying absolutely feast on him, making the good perimeter threat that much more effective. Personally my strategy would be to force them out of, or punish them for the small ball game by establishing something inside, and the rest of the offense completely worked around that. For instance I imagine Wilt abusing bogut, and passing it out to an open man when they have to double him, kicking it out for a 3 or wherever really. Handing it off to cutters in position to score, or start passing after the fact working the D like Spurs did if possible. Even if it ends up back in his hands

Establish the inside, find open shots keeping the D honest really moving the ball around, and whenever possible attack Curry himself. He's no scrub on D I'm well aware. Quick with his hands, deceptively strong etc.

Idk if I'd use them specifically, but with that low post threat I'd love to have players like Rip/Havlicek that constantly ran around trying to get open, getting /dishing off screens etc etc. I won't bore you with minute details like that I'm sure you get my point. Apologies for anything that doesn't make sense, on mobile and it's freezing up on me


I could build a few hypothetical teams later that are realistic that I think would beat them...But its not like this really matters

1987_Lakers
02-15-2016, 12:58 AM
They're an amazing team all around, no doubt. But match their Elite perimeter threat with a great one, along with an Elite inside threat I'd say it'd give them a run for their money.

Guys like Davie Robinson, Hakeem, Ewing, Shaq, Duncan, Wilt, Kareem etc would really work Bogut. Some I'd go as far as saying absolutely feast on him, making the good perimeter threat that much more effective. Personally my strategy would be to force them out of, or punish them for the small ball game by establishing something inside, and the rest of the offense completely worked around that. For instance I imagine Wilt abusing bogut, and passing it out to an open man when they have to double him, kicking it out for a 3 or wherever really. Handing it off to cutters in position to score, or start passing after the fact working the D like Spurs did if possible. Even if it ends up back in his hands

Establish the inside, find open shots keeping the D honest really moving the ball around, and whenever possible attack Curry himself. He's no scrub on D I'm well aware. Quick with his hands, deceptively strong etc.

Idk if I'd use them specifically, but with that low post threat I'd love to have players like Rip/Havlicek that constantly ran around trying to get open, getting /dishing off screens etc etc. I won't bore you with minute details like that I'm sure you get my point. Apologies for anything that doesn't make sense, on mobile and it's freezing up on me


I could build a few hypothetical teams later that are realistic that I think would beat them...But its not like this really matters

The thing is you are talking about a fantasy team right now. There has never been an NBA team that had a backcourt like Steph/Klay while also having an inside threat like Wilt/Kareem/Hakeem/Shaq.

And to be fair those big men you mentioned would feast on ANYBODY! But D. Robinson never played with a team that had the talent of the Warriors, same goes for Ewing, Olajuwon, & Kareem (at his peak). Shaq had Kobe, but again the Warriors would still have an edge at the backcourt, but I would pay to see that '01 Lakers team vs the current Warriors.

jongib369
02-15-2016, 01:20 AM
The thing is you are talking about a fantasy team right now. There has never been an NBA team that had a backcourt like Steph/Klay while also having an inside threat like Wilt/Kareem/Hakeem/Shaq.

And to be fair those big men you mentioned would feast on ANYBODY! But D. Robinson never played with a team that had the talent of the Warriors, same goes for Ewing, Olajuwon, & Kareem (at his peak). Shaq had Kobe, but again the Warriors would still have an edge at the backcourt, but I would pay to see that '01 Lakers team vs the current Warriors.
It could of happened with Goodrich/West/Wilt had he been a few years younger, prior to injury. Same for West/Baylor/Wilt. Check out Wilt in 69 before he went down, I really think that year could of been something else

Timing really ****ed us... I can't imagine any of those 3 together, or all 4 at the right age/health


"From Riley, these are ultimate compliments — comparing anyone to West and Goodrich, or one team to that 1971-72 Los Angeles Lakers team that won 33 consecutive games and rolled to the NBA championship. But that's the level of the praise he's doling out these days to Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson and the rolling Golden State Warriors.

"They are the two most dynamic players in the backcourt, that I have ever seen, since Jerry West and Gail Goodrich," Riley said. "Go back and check their numbers, 25 points apiece and Jerry leading the team in assists, Gail shooting close to 50 percent or whatever it was. Both of them could shoot it, could drive it, could pass it. That's what you're seeing here." "

If you can pick those guys up and build around them, considering their draw I think you could make a beautiful team. Anyways, I'd give my right nut to see them face every champion/runner up there ever was. Especially the 80s lakers/celtics, and 01 lakers like you said. Hell, 71 bucks would be interesting, 67/8 76ers too.

60s Celtics would be able to go small ball with them just fine with K.C. Jones, not cous (Respect the man though). Russell wouldn't be the inside threat I'd want, but he could run Bogut into the ground eventually. Plus, he's a versatile defensive threat coming out the way he did. But that's the whole era argument which I don't nessicairly want this to become.

oh the horror
02-15-2016, 07:14 AM
:biggums:

The **** are you even talking about? The '16 Warriors CRUSH the Bulls. Deal with it, dude. MJ has NEVER faced a team like the '16 Warriors.


Figured that dumbass MJ turds wouldn't understand the difference between the '15 and '16 Warriors. :yaohappy:

It's actually HILARIOUS seeing the MJ turds in full force trying to defend their sole purpose of existence though. :oldlol:




Yeah....don't say shit like this in person to people off this messageboard. You'll get laughed at, knocked out and your unconscious body would be pissed on. You're embarrassing yourself right now.





And that goes for the rest of you as well. Stop

aj1987
02-15-2016, 07:20 AM
Yeah....don't say shit like this in person to people off this messageboard. You'll get laughed at, knocked out and your unconscious body would be pissed on. You're embarrassing yourself right now.


And that goes for the rest of you as well. Stop
:biggums:

keep-itreal
02-15-2016, 07:26 AM
beta. He should be saying this to Curry.

r0drig0lac
02-15-2016, 08:38 AM
At least two carries in that gif by 90s rules:roll:

How about you watch the press defense in the first 2 minutes here, turnover machine Curry would average more turnovers than assists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9u3TwLdgoM

You're probably not going to watch it though.
Curry boy would fake an injury in order not to play

lil jahlil
02-15-2016, 09:49 AM
Why would he need permission?

kurple
02-15-2016, 10:29 AM
The Warriors win in 5 under any rules. Wipe that MJ juice off of your face and actually watch Curry play.
maybe you should take a break from watching the warriors and watch some tapes of the 96 bulls?

Rodman would make Draygod his bitch. boy would average 3 rebounds a game

I'd love to see how Steph would be able to dribble through 5 people without handchecking

kurple
02-15-2016, 10:31 AM
Nah, you have to play Ron Harper for his defense. Kerr would be killed out there guarding Curry if you decide to not play Harper much. Unless if you want to go with a Pippen/Jordan/Kukoc/Rodman/Longley lineup.

I will say that the only weakness Golden State has is that they turn the ball over too much at times, and Chicago's defense was pretty good at causing turnovers.
just play with Kerr and let steph get his. similar to how you'd beat prime Dirk Mavs. Let him get his, but shut down the rest of the team

Barnes, Klay and Dray aint gonna burn Pippen, Jordan and Rodman


imagine how many more turnovers the warriors and steph especially would have under 90's rules

aj1987
02-15-2016, 10:31 AM
maybe you should take a break from watching the warriors and watch some tapes of the 96 bulls?

Rodman would make Draygod his bitch. boy would average 3 rebounds a game

I'd love to see how Steph would be able to dribble through 5 people without handchecking
Reggie Miller.

kurple
02-15-2016, 10:32 AM
did reggie miller own the bulls or what?

kurple
02-15-2016, 10:34 AM
and klay would be in foul trouble with 10left in the 2nd if Jordan were to play under todays rules. no way you stop him from getting to the lane without fouling

aj1987
02-15-2016, 10:42 AM
did reggie miller own the bulls or what?
Dude was an elite player in the '90's and he's not even half the player current Curry is. You people need to stop acting like players from today couldn't play in the '90's and shit.


and klay would be in foul trouble with 10left in the 2nd if Jordan were to play under todays rules. no way you stop him from getting to the lane without fouling
So, you think the players guarding Curry wouldn't be in foul trouble?

kurple
02-15-2016, 10:47 AM
Dude was an elite player in the '90's and he's not even half the player current Curry is. You people need to stop acting like players from today couldn't play in the '90's and shit.


So, you think the players guarding Curry wouldn't be in foul trouble?
are everyone guarding curry now in foul trouble?

curry shoots over you, because his release is quicker than any one. jordan goes tru you to the rim

who would collect more fouls under todays rules? just look at James Harden, and he is like an broke mans version of MJ

and how can you even compare reggie to steph`? the only similarity in their game is elite shooting

kurple
02-15-2016, 10:49 AM
stteph would not be able to dance and dribble thru the lane and multiple defenders like he does now against lets say the bad boy pistons

aj1987
02-15-2016, 10:52 AM
are everyone guarding curry now in foul trouble?

curry shoots over you, because his release is quicker than any one. jordan goes tru you to the rim

who would collect more fouls under todays rules? just look at James Harden, and he is like an broke mans version of MJ

and how can you even compare reggie to steph`? the only similarity in their game is elite shooting
Have you ever actually watched Curry play? The guy doesn't get a ton of FT's because he takes like 11 3's a game and doesn't really drive.

kurple
02-15-2016, 10:57 AM
are you arguing with yourself?

cause im not the one who said Curry would get defenders in foul trouble. Like MJ would

aj1987
02-15-2016, 11:03 AM
are you arguing with yourself?

cause im not the one who said Curry would get defenders in foul trouble. Like MJ would
Why are you assuming that MJ would get defenders into foul trouble. 2nd 3peat MJ basically lived in the mid-range and that's where he primarily operated from. Wade and LeBron are as good as MJ when it comes to driving and yet, they both average ~8 FT's a game for their careers. Both players, who score more in the paint than MJ.

Da_Realist
02-15-2016, 03:18 PM
Why are you assuming that MJ would get defenders into foul trouble. 2nd 3peat MJ basically lived in the mid-range and that's where he primarily operated from. Wade and LeBron are as good as MJ when it comes to driving and yet, they both average ~8 FT's a game for their careers. Both players, who score more in the paint than MJ.

MJ shot 10.4 free throws in the 96 Playoffs when the pace was much slower and the refs allowed a lot more physicality than they do today.

bdreason
02-15-2016, 04:28 PM
MJ trying to jinx us. :no:

Tarik One
02-15-2016, 05:06 PM
It was been interesting to see how the Bulls would defend against Curry. That Bulls squad did struggle against quick point guards who could score.

Wally450
07-20-2016, 10:53 AM
So, whats the consensus now? :lol

Hey Yo
07-20-2016, 11:11 AM
So, whats the consensus now? :lol
Those in this thread who thought GSW would beat Chicago.... must think NOW that the 2016 Cavs could also beat those Bulls and are now considered the best team of all-time.

Da_Realist
07-20-2016, 11:16 AM
Posted in Feb when the Warriors were on fire. Read through the thread to see who don't know what the hell they were talking about.

andgar923
07-20-2016, 11:35 AM
Posted in Feb when the Warriors were on fire. Read through the thread to see who don't know what the hell they were talking about.

Read through a number of threads to expose cats.

"Bu..bu...but... he can pull up from 50 feet!!!" :oldlol: youngins

Dragonyeuw
07-20-2016, 11:36 AM
Those in this thread who thought GSW would beat Chicago.... must think NOW that the 2016 Cavs could also beat those Bulls and are now considered the best team of all-time.

Basketball is a game of matchups. The OKC Thunder, who lost multiple games this year in which they entered the 4th quarter leading by 10 or more nearly beat the Warriors, and no-one would call them among the best of all time. The Warriors were clearly not playing at the same level against OKC and Cavs that they were during the regular season. The playoffs ultimately reveal how good you are anyway, not the regular season. How many 60 win teams have failed to win the title? Plenty.

andgar923
07-20-2016, 11:41 AM
Basketball is a game of matchups. The OKC Thunder, who lost multiple games this year in which they entered the 4th quarter leading by 10 or more nearly beat the Warriors, and no-one would call them among the best of all time. The Warriors were clearly not playing at the same level against OKC and Cavs that they were during the regular season. The playoffs ultimately reveal how good you are anyway, not the regular season. How many 60 win teams have failed to win the title? Plenty.

And just to piggy back on that same sentiment, there's been teams that beat teams with better regular season records. At times teams with winning records vs a team in the regular season lose in the playoffs vs that same team.

As you mentioned, the playoffs are a different beast.

Dragonyeuw
07-20-2016, 11:56 AM
And just to piggy back on that same sentiment, there's been teams that beat teams with better regular season records. At times teams with winning records vs a team in the regular season lose in the playoffs vs that same team.

As you mentioned, the playoffs are a different beast.

Example: the 2007 Cavs and Spurs. RS, Cavs sweep. Finals, Spurs return the favor. When it counts.

Da_Realist
07-20-2016, 01:33 PM
Example: the 2007 Cavs and Spurs. RS, Cavs sweep. Finals, Spurs return the favor. When it counts.

Anybody that has watched more than a year of basketball should know this. Happens all the time. What DOESN'T happen all the time is a team that wins as many games as GSW getting exposed. I'm glad it happened because all these ish know-nothings would have proclaimed GSW as the best team of all time when I and most real fans knew they were not in the GOAT conversation.

Read through this thread... they were evaluating on wins and losses of the regular season instead of actually comparing based on matchups and dispositions of each team. And I've seen more than one guy recently claim the Warriors are still the best team of all time! WHA? :biggums:

DirkNowitzki41
07-20-2016, 01:35 PM
Damn, the Steph Curry love-fest was so disgusting. So glad LeBron ended that shit :oldlol:

moongaze
07-20-2016, 03:06 PM
Damn, the Steph Curry love-fest was so disgusting. So glad LeBron ended that shit :oldlol:

I avoided this site after one of his big games. It was unreadable. So much idol worship, people comparing him to religious figures. Awful stuff