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Hamtaro CP3KDKG
02-14-2016, 05:00 PM
list sum.....

kanter - he kant play defense. One of the WOAT defenders its like he was taught not to help or look at a player that hes not defending but from his stats youd think he was a beastly 20/10 guy potentially but hes barely making an impact overall

greg monroe - same as above. Biggest reason Bucks fell off completely destroyed them

bran - no explanation needed

anthony _avis - same as above, most overrated defender in a long time

james har_en - just not much impact, gimmick player, one of the worst defenders of the past 2 decades

deandre _ordan - overrated defender, spoonfed

AngelEyes
02-14-2016, 05:02 PM
James Harden and Kevin Love

swagga
02-14-2016, 05:05 PM
list sum.....

kanter - he kant play defense. One of the WOAT defenders its like he was taught not to help or look at a player that hes not defending but from his stats youd think he was a beastly 20/10 guy potentially but hes barely making an impact overall

greg monroe - same as above. Biggest reason Bucks fell off completely destroyed them

bran - no explanation needed

anthony _avis - same as above, most overrated defender in a long time

james har_en - just not much impact, gimmick player, one of the worst defenders of the past 2 decades

deandre _ordan - overrated defender, spoonfed

kanter - yes

gren monroe - depends on team

bron/davis - lol you mad bro :roll:

deandre - yes

harden - HELL yes


I'll also add:
kobe
westbrook
drummond

kamil
02-14-2016, 05:06 PM
james har_en - just not much impact, gimmick player, one of the worst defenders of the past 2 decades

His offense is anti-basketball. I'd throw him out of the league for his bullshit.

AngelEyes
02-14-2016, 05:08 PM
ESPN just made a list of the top basketball players ever and put Kevin Love's punk ass over Shawn Kemp. Kevin Love the same guy who has never had any success and who's efficiency has been horrible since he's come to Cleveland. He's also a turnstile on defense where Kemp at the very worst was solid.

STATUTORY
02-14-2016, 05:09 PM
are we in a lebron james thread right now? or it this a jahlil okafor thread?

JohnMax
02-14-2016, 05:10 PM
2:57 to 3:01 In exactly half of Carmelo's playoff games, he's shot 40 percent or less

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jR90yAyTYY&t=2m57s

33 out of 66 playoff games where Melo shot 40 percent or less highlighted in yellow

http://imgur.com/FL5dIOY

Carmelo

regular season 25.2 ppg 6.6 rpg 3.1 apg 45.5%
playoffs 25.7 ppg 7.3 rpg 2.8 apg 41.7%

Kobe

regular season 25.4 ppg 5.3 rpg 4.8 apg 45.1%
playoffs 25.6 ppg 5.1 rpg 4.7 apg 44.8%

SugarHill
02-14-2016, 05:11 PM
Kevin Durant
Chris Paul

all time - Kevin Garnett

G0ATbe
02-14-2016, 05:13 PM
pau gasoft

AngelEyes
02-14-2016, 05:16 PM
Honestly I feel like both Harden and Love are hugely overrated. Neither one should ever be the main man on their team. Harden was in the perfect role as 6th man in OKC, it masked a lot of his flaws. Love is better as a good role player, he's not a true star. His defense is a joke and his offensive stats have always been inflated.

feyki
02-14-2016, 05:18 PM
I agree with Enes and Monroe . But your arguements on other players are terrible bro . Specially Lebron .

HenryGarfunkle
02-14-2016, 05:18 PM
Westbrook
Brook Lopez
Vucevic
Melo

LoneyROY7
02-14-2016, 05:19 PM
Kevin Durant
Chris Paul

all time - Kevin Garnett

:yaohappy:

Nash
02-14-2016, 05:22 PM
For the OP

Kevin Durant - Has bunch of nice stats but can't even get close to championship
CP3 - Has never even lead his team further than the conference semifinals.

Nick Young
02-14-2016, 05:27 PM
Dwight Howard-dude is a loser who meltsdown in close games every time it gets hard.

He is happy to stuff his stats vs bottom tier teams, and stats nerds think this makes him one of the elite players in the NBA.

He could be a great player if he played smarter and within his limitations, but the dude thinks he's Hakeem mixed with Shaq and refuses to run P n Rs and demands low post feeds even though he scores from the lowpost at a rate well below the league average.

HylianNightmare
02-14-2016, 05:30 PM
Tobias Harris

AngelEyes
02-14-2016, 05:35 PM
Either James Harden or Westbrook.

Both very good players, but I don't feel they make their teammates better in the traditional sense. They can single-handedly win their teams ball games, but damn do they play low iq basketball at times.

I feel like Westbrook is a legit star at least. Harden is the definition of a manufactured star. The fact that this dude has already been first team all nba two times is scary, To put that in perspective that's already the same amount as Wade.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
02-14-2016, 05:35 PM
(double post, my wifi connection is the WOAT)

Either James Harden or Westbrook.

Both very good players, although I don't feel they make their teammates better in the traditional sense. They can single-handedly win their teams ball games, but damn do they play low iq basketball at times. When Russ is outta control its like watching a bull in a china shop.

aj1987
02-14-2016, 06:25 PM
list sum.....

kanter - he kant play defense. One of the WOAT defenders its like he was taught not to help or look at a player that hes not defending but from his stats youd think he was a beastly 20/10 guy potentially but hes barely making an impact overall

greg monroe - same as above. Biggest reason Bucks fell off completely destroyed them

bran - no explanation needed

anthony _avis - same as above, most overrated defender in a long time

james har_en - just not much impact, gimmick player, one of the worst defenders of the past 2 decades

deandre _ordan - overrated defender, spoonfed
You're a ****ing retard for mentioning LeBron and not KD. Meh, you stan chokers though. KD, KG, and CP3. The definition of losers.

I'd go with Love from this era, Stoudamire from the '00's, Stockton from the '90's, and 'Nique from the '80's.

DonDadda59
02-14-2016, 06:53 PM
Haren, easily. Worst 'superstar' I've ever seen. A complete fraud of a product of his era.

AngelEyes
02-14-2016, 06:54 PM
Haren, easily. Worst 'superstar' I've ever seen. A complete fraud of a product of his era.

I can't recall a worse two time first team ALL NBA player than Harden.

aj1987
02-14-2016, 06:59 PM
Hey Steeeve

My internet connection is still messed WTF u gettin paid for boy, get off ISH and back to ur spot before I talk with ur manager:no:
I don't have anyone working above me, dude. You will probably understand how corporate works in a couple of decades, if you're lucky enough. :cheers:

Till then, here are a couple of pictures to cheer you up:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vPIgTuQM2gk/hqdefault.jpg
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/chris-paul.jpg
http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/1/14027/597431-kevin_20garnett_20on_20the_20bench.jpg

Losers support losers, I guess.

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
02-14-2016, 07:02 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2SotuJIMAAwPds.jpg:large
What are u sayin Steeeve??

I already know KD, CP and KG all peaked higher than Wade:lol :lol

aj1987
02-14-2016, 07:10 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vPIgTuQM2gk/hqdefault.jpg
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/chris-paul.jpg
http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/1/14027/597431-kevin_20garnett_20on_20the_20bench.jpg


I'm sorry, bro. I don't speak choker. Can anyone translate? Thanks! :cheers:

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
02-14-2016, 07:15 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LhFKzJNpLDQ/maxresdefault.jpg

I have Verizon I already told u!!! I unplugged the modem two times!!

Cocaine80s
02-14-2016, 07:26 PM
Cp3 is definitely the biggest case

AngelEyes
02-14-2016, 07:29 PM
Cp3 is definitely the biggest case

Barkley is always talking about him being the best leader yet he's never led his team to anything. Why is he a better leader than Duncan, Curry, KG, Pierce, etc. ?

aj1987
02-14-2016, 07:38 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vPIgTuQM2gk/hqdefault.jpg
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/chris-paul.jpg
http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/1/14027/597431-kevin_20garnett_20on_20the_20bench.jpg


Jesus Christ, man! I don't speak choker.

Aussie Dunker
02-14-2016, 07:44 PM
Whiteside,

Putting up some of the best defensive stats (not advanced stats) we have seen in the past 20 years and gets slammed by his own teamates for playing poor defense - surely this guy fits the description of this thread?...

aj1987
02-14-2016, 07:49 PM
Whiteside,

Putting up some of the best defensive stats (not advanced stats) we have seen in the past 20 years and gets slammed by his own teamates for playing poor defense - surely this guy fits the description of this thread?...
He can play defense when HE wants to though. Dude can absolutely shut down the paint, but doesn't give 100% effort. He doesn't even give like 70% effort. I agree with you on this one. Dude averages something like 12/11/4, but is not even close to those numbers in terms of actual impact.

I really hope that he give atleast 90% from here on out. Miami is a 50+ win win team, if he does.

swagga
02-14-2016, 07:52 PM
I have Verizon I already told u!!! I unplugged the modem two times!!

you are pathetic son, don't you have homework to do? :facepalm

SexSymbol
02-14-2016, 07:53 PM
bron is the clear choice

Lebron23
02-14-2016, 07:56 PM
bron is the clear choice


You don't know $hit about basketball.

Proctor
02-14-2016, 07:58 PM
Harden
Kanter
CP3