Boring All-Star Game

[Angel Face]

Just a bunch of guys doing 3pt jacking contest. Fell asleep midway through 3rd. :sleeping

[Spurs m8]

LOL no shit.

Whole weekend should be scrapped....its garbage.

[NattyPButter]

NBA ruining the All Star game by the players not even playing D. Usually the 2nd half players get a little more serious but it was still a freaking joke. The bench players and Westbrook were the only ones even being serious. Now it's all about breaking worthless All Star records.

[AngelEyes]

And this surprises you? It's been trending this way for a long time, they just took it to another level tonight.

[hitmanyr2k]

LOL no shit.

Whole weekend should be scrapped....its garbage.

Can't say that after last night. That was actually entertaining. The actual all-star game has been complete shit for at least the last 5 seasons. Maybe more.

[inclinerator]

tyrone lue taking most of the starters out was the last straw

[Truth]

Mentality of today's players is that they're entertainers not basketball players. If Adam silver has any backbone he will fix this because that was worse than any all star game or pro bowl ever

[no pun intended]

As Mark Jackson once said: Curry ruined the game. lmao.

[Spurs m8]

As Mark Jackson once said: Curry ruined the game. lmao.

Go have another toss to curry, champ

[bdreason]

It was a 3-point shooting contest... and we already saw the best shooters compete last night.

I guess if you act like you don't care, it doesn't matter if you lose? Seems like that's the way a lot of new generation kids behave.

[AintNoSunshine]

Sht needs to change to make these bishes actually give a sht. I fell asleep twice.

[Gileraracer]

Dunk and 3pt contest are a lot more exciting than the ASG itself

[CavaliersFTW]

Boring? How's about THE most boring in NBA history... this shit was shameful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy7VyZOcJBI

You can hear Marv Alberts enthusiasm go from authentic to forced almost immediately and then just die off from there into casual conversation with Chris Webber and Reggie Miller as the game progresses into the most embarassingly uncompetitive layup line and 3 point shooting practice session I've ever seen on a basketball court.

None of those guys gave a single crap about competing. What the hell is the point of calling it an all star GAME anymore? I want to see the best of the best try to BEAT each other.

Good news is the Dunk contest was actually as exciting and competitive as I've seen in YEARS :applause:

But that All Star Game has GOT to change that was just sad to see Kobe go out in a game that scored nearly 400 COMPLETELY undefended lobs and 3 point shots between both teams :facepalm

[sportjames23]

What can be done, tho? Make a drastic change like MLB did, with the winning side giving home court advantage to whichever team comes out of that conference?

[tomSR.]

What can be done, tho? Make a drastic change like MLB did, with the winning side giving home court advantage to whichever team comes out of that conference?
yes, it

[sportjames23]

[QUOTE=tomSR.]yes, it

[CavaliersFTW]

What can be done, tho? Make a drastic change like MLB did, with the winning side giving home court advantage to whichever team comes out of that conference?
I don't know, I know in years past the winning teams earned more money but at this point all NBA players including non-all-star roleplayers seem to get millions per year so I'm not sure if money could even encourage competing/winning.

I actually like that idea that MLB did. That might fix it. Make the NBA Finals home court advantage determined via the ASG? You'd DEFINITELY see the athletes compete for that.

Or perhaps what the ABA used to do? (Team that won the NBA Finals from prior season, vs an all-star team (from the entire rest of the league of both conferences). Well polished teamwork and schemes vs vastly superior individual talent hastily lumped together. Perhaps that could encourage some competition.

Sad that it needs to come to that though, where the heck is the individual pride of these athletes?

[Legends66NBA7]

It was just the 4th quarter that was a let down and Lue's dumb lineup of having 4 bigs on the floor.


Otherwise, didn't see the big deal. Fans are never satisfied. It felt like the whole GT was flooding in tears.

[Kawhi]

Somewhere during the 3rd quarter I started watching highlights of the '87 ASG instead. I hugely dislike this not caring nonsense.

[CavaliersFTW]

It was just the 4th quarter that was a let down and Lue's dumb lineup of having 4 bigs on the floor.


Otherwise, didn't see the big deal. Fans are never satisfied. It felt like the whole GT was flooding in tears.
No way, this couldn't be further from the truth. Watch some vintage games. When they actually competed.

The all star game used to be a COMPETITION. Competition is always gratifying to watch, a million times more gratifying than what this years shoot around was. The only way a fan wouldn't be satisfied with an actual competitive game would be if their favorite player wasn't a starter or didn't get minutes or something. But I'd bet any fan ever would pick an actual game where their favorite player doesn't make a basket vs this crap that was pawned off on us as an all star game this year.

The difference is insane:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8D0IIW4-pU

[LakersForlife]

went to sleep before halftime

[HeatFanSince88]

Tonight on defense they were literally getting out of the way for the offensive players.

Either giving them the open three, or giving them the wide open lane for a dunk.

I know defense isn't the focal point of these games, but theres a reason BOTH teams tonight eclipsed the previous record by 30 fukn points. At least in the past teams would play D during crucial moments or at the end of the game, but tonight was literally the worst one ever.

[HeatFanSince88]

No way, this couldn't be further from the truth. Watch some vintage games. When they actually competed.

The all star game used to be a COMPETITION. Competition is always gratifying to watch, a million times more gratifying than what this years shoot around was. The only way a fan wouldn't be satisfied with an actual competitive game would be if their favorite player wasn't a starter or didn't get minutes or something. But I'd bet any fan ever would pick an actual game where their favorite player doesn't make a basket vs this crap that was pawned off on us as an all star game this year.

The difference is insane:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8D0IIW4-pU

Man it's like night and day.

It's really ****ing sad too, because the concept of the very best players of the league going at one another in an actual competition is an AMAZING concept.

Nowadays all we heard all night was "Oh these guys dont wanna get injured! This is good, no team wants their player to get injured!"

For fuks sake, I can understand that shit maybe in a sport like Football, possibly hockey...., BUT BASKETBALL? for fuks sake.

And even if by some bizare fasion someone did get hurt(has that even ever happened?) it's not like it would fukn matter unless the guy was on CLeveland, San Antonio, or Golden State.

[Spurs m8]

What can be done, tho? Make a drastic change like MLB did, with the winning side giving home court advantage to whichever team comes out of that conference?

Best thing I've read all all star weekend tbh

[Jameerthefear]

What can be done, tho? Make a drastic change like MLB did, with the winning side giving home court advantage to whichever team comes out of that conference?
No, this is actually the WORST way you can handle this. I have no idea why people keep suggesting this

[Dr Hawk]

I stayed awake for this shit until 3AM.

Never again

[Sakkreth]

Yep it sucked. Dunk contest was so siiick though.

[PP34Deuce]

Lol. The Allstar game definitely took another level to no D.

That said. Several guys are banged up. They compete in the 2nd half to playoffs. They treat this game as an exhibition to play with their friends.

It was a novelty. You saw both coaches do BIG lineups. If any guy got hurt in this game fans of that team would be upset.

[BuffaloBill]

What can be done, tho? Make a drastic change like MLB did, with the winning side giving home court advantage to whichever team comes out of that conference?


So many things wrong with that idea

[Kblaze8855]

I taped and rewatched every ASG from the late 80s till like 2010...then id just watch....last night...first time ever...I turned it off. I watched the Walking dead instead. It was literally embarrassing to be a fan of that. I dont know how you fix it short of like 15 million dollars to the winning team. Million for each winner and the MVP and coach splitting the extra. Even guys with millions will play hard for a million cash.

Short of that you would need someone with credibility to just ask for a real game in the locker room. Kobe would have had the pull.....maybe say thats how you pay tribute...play for real.

But yearly? Nothing but money would do it.

[senelcoolidge]

Wow, I enjoyed watching clips of that 1973 ASG. WTF did I watch last night? Just an example of what the nba has become, truly sad. I couldn't stomach all of it, I watched bits and pieces of the game last night. All I saw were guys running up and down hoisting open 3's..:facepalm . The nba better do something. The players are like the prisoners running the asylum.

[Mass Debator]

Curry effect? Seemed like everyone wanted to 1up him beyond the line.

A lot of homo shit out there too and even the least expected in Kobe became Charmin-like. This tribute to Kobe is becoming ridiculous. I still love what he brought to the game but just for last night, just retire right now Kobe. Seems like there's no other shit to achieve or receive. Be a voice in the locker room as some kind of assistant and let the young ones get hands on experience. But then again, I know every game he plays in from now on is going to get near max capacity so I don't blame the owners. :facepalm

[PP34Deuce]

THat display wasn't for fans. It was for them. You saw a lot of guys who were friends setting each other up.

Bron and Wade
Durant and Westbrook.

A lot of guys gunning for the MVP last nite.

[Showtime80']

The NBA just has no more drama or passion, these guys are just too damn RICH to give a damn on a consistent basis even in regular season games (they want to shorten the season so their millennial attention spans can keep them interested for at least 50 games!) let alone an all-star game.

Like I've mentioned plenty of times, the league is heading down a very dangerous road, the college game is basically unwatchable because it is basically a 3 point shooting contest every game and the NBA is basically heading down the same road.

I mean does it really exhibit ANY TYPE of skill to hit 51 out of 139 THREE POINTERS!!!

Just wait a few years, this pathetic display will be the norm for the NBA!

[Dresta]

Yeah, stopped watching it like 3-4 years ago now; and it stopped being worth it before that.

[AirFederer]

ASG is a zero, watching guys dunk and shoot open shots is just boring after 5 minutes
RS is 3/10
RS best team clash is a 5-6
PS is where it`s at.

[Trollsmasher]

They should shake up the format somehow

NHL did a 4 team, 3v3 tournament for 1 million charity bucks this year and it was much better than the borefests of the previous years...

[diamenz]

james harden felt right at home.

[Heavincent]

I know they usually don't play defense in the all star game, but last night was basically a televised shoot around.

[Optimus Prime]

There is more defense played during pre-game warmups than last night's ASG. It was literally embarrassing to watch this hot garbage while the announcers gushed over "records being shattered". Yes, it is very easy for professional players to score lots of points when they are literally not defended. :facepalm

Pretty much everyone gets that the ASG is supposed to be for fun, but at least in the past, the teams actually tried. This was horrible. All those points weren't exciting it was just ridiculous.

Get used to it, however. As the last of the old guard such as Kobe, Garnett and Pierce retire, this is only going to get worse. The league is being left to a bunch of Facebook-friending, Twitter emoji battling betas like LeBron and Curry. As the NBA progresses to being even softer than Charmin and every single game devolves into a 3-point shooting contest, all I can say is:

I told you so. But kids didn't want to listen and kept worshiping LeBron and Curry. The future of the NBA was on full display last night, and it is pathetic.

:kobe:

[Genaro]

Although I agree that last game was really bad, I find the idea of winner takes HCA in the finals ridiculous. I mean, we are going to put that much weight on the freaking all star game over teams battling for 5 months to get HCA? I rather have a bad ASG than ruin a 5 month work.

[DonDadda59]

I know they usually don't play defense in the all star game, but last night was basically a televised shoot around.

I never thought I'd say this, but... The NBA is going to miss Kobe. He's the last of a dying breed.

When he did the post game conference a reporter asked if anyone came at him like he went at Jordan in '98. Bean basically said that there's just a different mentality out there than when he was coming up. And it's painfully apparent.

I think NBA culture is influenced by its top dogs. They set the climate. Guys like Jordan, Magic, and Bird were killers, psychotically competitive. That rubs off on lesser players. So when you have the likes of LeBron James being the face of the league/alpha, that trickles down to the other players and you have that pitiful display we saw last night. :facepalm

[kamil]

They should shake up the format somehow

NHL did a 4 team, 3v3 tournament for 1 million charity bucks this year and it was much better than the borefests of the previous years...

That's a far more generous donation than a multi-billion dollar company giving away ONE KIA car.

[kamil]

Some people liked the game:



Wish these guys played actual defense.. so boring watching them just dick around.
:facepalm

It's fun af actually, and that's the whole point of this game.


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=12151502

[Legends66NBA7]

Some people liked the game:




http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=12151502

Yeah, how dare they. :confusedshrug:

[Cali Syndicate]

exhibition or not, all games need to be played with some effort on competetivness. Otherwise, what's the point? Don't get me wrong, dunks are fun but what we saw was nothing but what we saw was basically pregame open dunks and shooting.

[jongib369]

I wonder if it's now an unspoken rule for the players not to compete in it...Kinda like how by contract they're not allowed to go skiing, sky dive, play other sports etc...What if they're not allowed to truly compete in risk of getting injured in a game that doesn't mean anything? I'm sure if it were an unspoken rule it would of been in the public eye these days...But nevertheless, it's sad what this game has become.

Cavs posted the 1973 All Star Game, here's the 1972 NBA VS ABA game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUqkuCic3GA)

I don't care what you think of the talent from back then, anyone with a quarter of a brain would be more entertained by either of those two games

[Tarik One]

The worst outcome that may have come out of last night's game was the fact that West came 4 points short of 200. That means they may gun for that number next year.....which means even more running and gunning.:facepalm

[ClipperRevival]

It was terrible. The soft rules and all this buddy buddy stuff has led to this.

[kamil]

Next year I'm gonna watch reruns of past 90s all star games. Last night's game was ****ing embarrassing.

[dhsilv]

It was terrible. The soft rules and all this buddy buddy stuff has led to this.

Yeah we;re not going back to a world of no smart phones and everyone getting to know eachother...

[Dragonyeuw]

The all-star game is a microcosm of the wider issue that nowadays everyone seems to practice either dunks or 3 pointers, the mid-range game asides from a few is lacking as is post-play compared to yesteryear. So we have what this all-star's game was, a snooze-inducing dunk and 3point jacking contest where neither side seems to give two shits whether they win or lose. They need to attach real stakes to the outcome of the game.

[CavaliersFTW]

The all-star game is a microcosm of the wider issue that nowadays everyone seems to practice either dunks or 3 pointers, the mid-range game asides from a few is lacking as is post-play compared to yesteryear. So we have what this all-star's game was, a snooze-inducing dunk and 3point jacking contest where neither side seems to give two shits whether they win or lose. They need to attach real stakes to the outcome of the game.
...dunks and 3 pointers weren't the issue, those would be fine if one simple ingredient was added.

A desire to beat the other team.

Then defense and effort would have been there. The worst part wasn't that there were dunks and 3 pointers, it was that they were effortless dunks and 3 pointers because no effort was put into stopping them. Hell, 99% of that game there was only 1 or 2 people crossing half court on defense at any given time and all they did was run down there to inbound the ball after the uncontested shots went in.

[Showtime80']

The excess money and guaranteed contracts have all but extinguished the hard core competitive desires of the modern NBA players (among multiple other reasons)

Would you give a sh!t about even winning a title or beating the crap out of your contemporaries with 80-100 million guaranteed contract!!! Hell NO!!!

That's why the NFL will continue to be the king of American sports, they have the perfect system for players to give their all on a day to day basis. Doesn't matter how many millions you signed for two years ago, we can cut your behind in a second if you're not making the grade. Organizations have ALL THE POWER in football where in the NBA the individual stars are starting to dictate the direction and general attitudes of entire franchises!

Bad times lie ahead for NBA!