Let's compare Dirk's stats against the Spurs versus Lebron against the Spurs

[masonanddixon]

Funny how 'top 3 all time' got creampied by the Spurs despite being on a superteam in 2 of 3 series whereas Dirk creampied the Spurs EVERY SINGLE TIME.

[sportjames23]

http://i.imgur.com/ygZSd.gif

[Nikola_]

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[StephHamann]

Funny how 'top 3 all time' got creampied by the Spurs despite being on a superteam in 2 of 3 series whereas Dirk creampied the Spurs EVERY SINGLE TIME.

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[Uncle Drew]

Another thread for me to trash you in.

[Uncle Drew]

LeBron got double teamed every single time he had the ball, while Dirk got single coverage btw.

[HeatFanSince88]

anyone got the stats for comparison?

[masonanddixon]

LeBron got double teamed every single time he had the ball, while Dirk got single coverage btw.

yes the Spurs had to focus on the great Jason Kidd and Shawn Marion!

Whereas Lehomo played with bums Wade and Bosh!

[Uncle Drew]

Dirk Nowitzki vs Spurs (points/rebounds/assists/steals/blocks):
2001: 23/9/1/2/1 (45% FG, 10% 3P), L 4-1
2003: 25/11/2/1/0 (43% FG, 29% 3P), L 4-2 (Played in 3 games only, 1-2 in games he played)
2006: 27/13/3/1/0 (53% FG, 13% 3P), W 4-3
2009: 19/9/2/1/1 (49% FG, 13% 3P), W 4-1
2010: 27/8/3/1/1 (55% FG, 57% 3P), L 4-2
2013: 19/8/2/1/1 (43% FG, 8% 3P), L 4-3

Total: 23/10/2/1/1 (48% FG, 22% 3P), 2-4

LeBron James vs Spurs (points/rebounds/assists/steals/blocks):
2007: 22/7/7/1/1 (36% FG, 20% 3P), L 4-0
2013: 25/11/7/2/1 (45% FG, 35% 3P), W 4-3
2014: 28/8/4/2/0 (57% FG, 51% 3P), L 4-1

Total: 25/9/6/2/1 (46% FG, 35% 3P), 1-2

:roll: :roll:

[Uncle Drew]

LeBron averaged more points, basically just as many rebounds, thrice the assists, twice the steals and as much blocks, while winning the same % of series.

You lose, again.

[masonanddixon]

LeBron averaged more points, basically just as many rebounds, thrice the assists, twice the steals and as much blocks, while winning the same % of series.

You lose, again.

Hahahahahaha no he didn't win the same number of series.

You're objectively a moron.

[Uncle Drew]

Hahahahahaha no he didn't win the same number of series.

You're objectively a moron.
What part of % (PERCENTAGE) didn't you understand? You low IQ high school dropout.

[masonanddixon]

What part of % (PERCENTAGE) didn't you understand? You low IQ high school dropout.

You're extrapolating from a miniscule set. Winning one series and getting thoroughly CREAMPIED in the other two is not the same as beating a prime Duncan TWICE rather than winning one series against an old and injured Spurs team that only got there due to the Durant injury.

[aj1987]

You're extrapolating from a miniscule set. Winning one series and getting thoroughly CREAMPIED in the other two is not the same as beating a prime Duncan TWICE rather than winning one series against an old and injured Spurs team that only got there due to the Durant injury.
The '13 and '14 Spurs are arguably better than any other version of the Spurs.

[masonanddixon]

The '13 and '14 Spurs are arguably better than any other version of the Spurs.

No they aren't. They are objectively far worse than the 02-07 iterations.

Unless you consider old and washed up Duncan/Parker/Ginbobli to be better than all those guys in their prime plus Bruce Bowen and other elite role players.

[aj1987]

No they aren't. They are objectively far worse than the 02-07 iterations.

Unless you consider old and washed up Duncan/Parker/Ginbobli to be better than all those guys in their prime plus Bruce Bowen and other elite role players.
Tony Parker was 30 in '13 and was in the MVP conversation during the RS (before LeBron ran away with it). Duncan was in the conversation as well, along with DPOY considerations. Then they had Kawhi, Green, Diaw, etc..

LeBron is better than Dirk at almost ever aspect of the game. Significantly better at most of them as well. Deal with it.

EDIT:

Average age of the team:

'13 - 28.6
'14 - 28.9

'02 - 28.5
'03 - 28.4
'04 - 27.3
'05 - 28.5
'06 - 29.8
'07 - 30.4
'08 - 31.4
'09 - 30.4
'10 - 28.7

[Gileraracer]

LeBron got double teamed every single time he had the ball, while Dirk got single coverage btw.


Lebron and 'double teamed' in one sentence :roll: :roll:

[StephHamann]

Lebron and 'double teamed' in one sentence :roll: :roll:

The dare to shoot double team, you know.

[masonanddixon]

Tony Parker was 30 in '13 and was in the MVP conversation during the RS (before LeBron ran away with it). Duncan was in the conversation as well, along with DPOY considerations. Then they had Kawhi, Green, Diaw, etc..

LeBron is better than Dirk at almost ever aspect of the game. Significantly better at most of them as well. Deal with it.

Why am I arguing with a guy from India?

Duncan was washed up and done in 2013. In 2014 his same team BARELY beat a Dirk led Mavs team that started freaking Samuel Dalembert and Shawn Marion and played Vince Carter heavy minutes.

You're trying to tell me Duncan in 13 was the same as the guy who beat the Kobe-Shaq Lakers in their prime...seriously get the hell off this board, ****.

Understand the sport before you go off spouting nonsense. Last thing I need is some clown bandwagoner trying to tell a real fan about the sport.

[masonanddixon]

The dare to shoot double team, you know.

You forgot about the AMAZING Boris Diaw's defense prowess. it's funny how none of these guys are great defenders until they kill Lebron.

[Uncle Drew]

Lebron and 'double teamed' in one sentence :roll: :roll:
It's called sarcasm. If you read the other thread, you could have seen OP saying Dirk got double teamed, while Duncan, according to him, got single coverage

[masonanddixon]

It's called sarcasm. If you read the other thread, you could have seen OP saying Dirk got double teamed, while Duncan, according to him, got single coverage

YOU NEVER WATCHED THE SERIES YOU CHILD. Duncan was single coveraged nearly all the time by Dampier/Diop. It's really not that hard to understand. He had Ginobli and Parker in their prime.

If you think Duncan received anywhere near the defensive attention that the Almighty received you are just as stupid as you appear.

[Uncle Drew]

YOU NEVER WATCHED THE SERIES YOU CHILD. Duncan was single coveraged nearly all the time by Dampier/Diop. It's really not that hard to understand. He had Ginobli and Parker in their prime.

If you think Duncan received anywhere near the defensive attention that the Almighty received you are just as stupid as you appear.
Hahahaha, funny how you're avoiding that thread like the plague because plowking called you out woth a link of ur bs.

[aj1987]

Why am I arguing with a guy from India?
Probably because Australians can't even utter a single coherent sentence?


Duncan was washed up and done in 2013. In 2014 his same team BARELY beat a Dirk led Mavs team that started freaking Samuel Dalembert and Shawn Marion and played Vince Carter heavy minutes.
You do know that the same team absolutely murdered a WB-KD Thunder, Lillard-Aldridge Blazers, and the Wade-Bosh-LeBron Heat, right?

Again, dumbass, Duncan was in the DPOY conversation in '13 and '14 and MVP conversation in '13.


You're trying to tell me Duncan in 13 was the same as the guy who beat the Kobe-Shaq Lakers in their prime...seriously get the hell off this board, ****.
When did I say that, shit for brains. The Spurs as a TEAM were arguably the best in '14.


Understand the sport before you go off spouting nonsense. Last thing I need is some clown bandwagoner trying to tell a real fan about the sport.
Don't you have a Klan rally to attend to, ******? Go back to playing doctor with your Toys "R" Us play set.

Average age of the team:

'13 - 28.6
'14 - 28.9

'02 - 28.5
'03 - 28.4
'04 - 27.3
'05 - 28.5
'06 - 29.8
'07 - 30.4
'08 - 31.4
'09 - 30.4
'10 - 28.7

Absolute moron, you are. I'm not even gonna bother with you anymore. BTW, LeBron is better than ANY white player that has EVER played basketball.

[masonanddixon]

Probably because Australians can't even utter a single coherent sentence?


You do know that the same team absolutely murdered a WB-KD Thunder, Lillard-Aldridge Blazers, and the Wade-Bosh-LeBron Heat, right?

Again, dumbass, Duncan was in the DPOY conversation in '13 and '14 and MVP conversation in '13.


When did I say that, shit for brains. The Spurs as a TEAM were arguably the best in '14.


Don't you have a Klan rally to attend to, ******? Go back to playing doctor with your Toys "R" Us play set.


Shouldn't you be rolling around in your own filth and bathing in your turd-ridden river?

Anyone who dares think the 13-14 Spurs were even half as good as any version from 02-07 needs to be shot on sight.

[sportjames23]

Who knew India and Australia had beef? :oldlol:

[aj1987]

I'm rolling around in my own filth and bathing in my turd-ridden river.

Anyone who dares think the 02-07 Spurs were even half as good as any version from 13-14 needs to be shot on sight.
Agreed and TMI on your bathing.

:cheers:

[Uncle Drew]

Aj and Uncle Drew keep winning.

[aj1987]

Who knew India and Australia had beef? :oldlol:
:oldlol:

Australia is amazing, even though they their fair share of racist retards (like OP).


Aj and Uncle Drew keep winning.
:cheers:

[masonanddixon]

Who knew India and Australia had beef? :oldlol:

Those countries don't have beef. But a third worlder bandwagoner doesn't belong a board for serious basketball fans.

Seriously, he should be serving me up a Slurpee and saying 'thank you come again' and not pretending to know anything about the NBA.

[masonanddixon]

:oldlol:

Australia is amazing, even though they their fair share of racist retards (like OP).


:cheers:

Learn proper grammar, turd boy. England colonised your people for a reason.

[aj1987]

Those countries don't have beef. But a third worlder bandwagoner doesn't belong a board for serious basketball fans.

Seriously, he should be serving me up a Slurpee and saying 'thank you come again' and not pretending to know anything about the NBA.
Care to post in this thread, ******?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12149504&postcount=59

[masonanddixon]

Care to post in this thread, ******?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12149504&postcount=59

YOU'RE SHOWING A POST FROM A GUY WHO WAS 6 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME OF THE SERIES? GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE.

[Uncle Drew]

YOU'RE SHOWING A POST FROM A GUY WHO WAS 6 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME OF THE SERIES? GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE.
Meltdown.

[Gileraracer]

LeBron is better than Dirk at almost ever aspect of the game. Significantly better at most of them as well. Deal with it.



You are right. Better flopper, better colluder, better choker, his stiff arm is way better and he complains a lot better.

[aj1987]

YOU'RE SHOWING A POST FROM A GUY WHO WAS 6 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME OF THE SERIES? GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12149504&postcount=59

I'm sorry, but I don't speak meltdown.

[masonanddixon]

You are right. Better flopper, better colluder, better choker, his stiff arm is way better and he complains a lot better.

Plus when they met in the Finals, lebron dominated Dirk.

[masonanddixon]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12149504&postcount=59

I'm sorry, but I don't speak meltdown.

You don't speak English either.

[aj1987]

You don't speak English either.
Post in English, fake doctor. As I said, I don't speak meltdown.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12149504&postcount=59

[plowking]

masonanddixon literally burns himself in every thread.

He has gotten called out on spelling the same medical term wrong not just once, but twice on two seperate occasions. He thinks protein powder causes cancer... :oldlol:
And he is a flat out racist. :oldlol:

Doesn't sound like a lot of doctors I know. :oldlol:

[masonanddixon]

masonanddixon literally burns himself in every thread.

He has gotten called out on spelling the same medical term wrong not just once, but twice on two seperate occasions. He thinks protein powder causes cancer... :oldlol:
And he is a flat out racist. :oldlol:
'
Doesn't sound like a lot of doctors I know. :oldlol:

'He thinks protein powder causes cancer...'

It does.

[plowking]

'He thinks protein powder causes cancer...'

It does.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[sportjames23]

This thread tho. :oldlol:

[tpols]

The dare to shoot double team, you know.

was gonna say.. Spurs, Lebron, and double team are three things I'd never heard put together before. They were double teammin bron from 10 ft away I guess.. quite a trap

[BlakFrankWhite]

LeBron got double teamed every single time he had the ball, while Dirk got single coverage btw.

You do realise that "single coverage" was prime-peak Tim Duncan

So, its not like Dirk had a smooth sailing

[feyki]

You are right. Better flopper, better colluder, better choker, his stiff arm is way better and he complains a lot better.


:lol :lol

[plowking]

:lol :lol

You have a shitty sense of humour if you found any of that funny.

[feyki]

You have a shitty sense of humour if you found any of that funny.

My bad , i will ask you which is funny next time .

[Gileraracer]

My bad , i will ask you which is funny next time .


:lol :lol

[plowking]

My bad , i will ask you which is funny next time .

I bet you laugh your ass off at the original chicken crossing the road and "knock, knock" jokes.

[ninephive]

Funny how 'top 3 all time' got creampied by the Spurs despite being on a superteam in 2 of 3 series whereas Dirk creampied the Spurs EVERY SINGLE TIME.
...except for 2001, 2003, 2010, and 2014. Other than that, EVERY SINGLE TIME (which was twice).

[lil jahlil]

LeBron got double teamed every single time he had the ball, while Dirk got single coverage btw.
What? One year it was Diaw in single coverage against LeBron, the next it was Kawhi in single coverage.

[ShawkFactory]

Shit...I don't think I've seen someone so thoroughly abused like OP here..

[lil jahlil]

Dirk Nowitzki vs Spurs (points/rebounds/assists/steals/blocks):
2001: 23/9/1/2/1 (45% FG, 10% 3P), L 4-1
2003: 25/11/2/1/0 (43% FG, 29% 3P), L 4-2 (Played in 3 games only, 1-2 in games he played)
2006: 27/13/3/1/0 (53% FG, 13% 3P), W 4-3
2009: 19/9/2/1/1 (49% FG, 13% 3P), W 4-1
2010: 27/8/3/1/1 (55% FG, 57% 3P), L 4-2
2013: 19/8/2/1/1 (43% FG, 8% 3P), L 4-3

Total: 23/10/2/1/1 (48% FG, 22% 3P), 2-4

LeBron James vs Spurs (points/rebounds/assists/steals/blocks):
2007: 22/7/7/1/1 (36% FG, 20% 3P), L 4-0
2013: 25/11/7/2/1 (45% FG, 35% 3P), W 4-3
2014: 28/8/4/2/0 (57% FG, 51% 3P), L 4-1

Total: 25/9/6/2/1 (46% FG, 35% 3P), 1-2

:roll: :roll:


LeBron vs Dirk head to head 2011:
LeBron: 18/7/7/2/0.5 (48% FG, 32% 3P), L 4-2
Dirk: 26/10/2/1/1 (42% FG, 37% 3P), W 4-2

:roll: :roll:

[Uncle Drew]

What? One year it was Diaw in single coverage against LeBron, the next it was Kawhi in single coverage.
Are you really that stupid that you don't get sarcasm?

[Uncle Drew]

LeBron vs Dirk head to head 2011:
LeBron: 18/7/7/2/0.5 (48% FG, 32% 3P), L 4-2
Dirk: 26/10/2/1/1 (42% FG, 37% 3P), W 4-2

:roll: :roll:
Cool, not relevant though.

[ShawkFactory]

LeBron vs Dirk head to head 2011:
LeBron: 18/7/7/2/0.5 (48% FG, 32% 3P), L 4-2
Dirk: 26/10/2/1/1 (42% FG, 37% 3P), W 4-2

:roll: :roll:
And that's all good, but thread title clearly states that we are comparing stats between the two against the Spurs. Which is EXACTLY what Uncle Drew just did.

Not seeing the relevance of your post.

[sportjames23]

Shit...I don't think I've seen someone so thoroughly abused like OP here..


I see you missed out on Gus Hemingway. :oldlol:

[ShawkFactory]

I see you missed out on Gus Hemingway. :oldlol:
True. This guy is on the short list though.

[pastis]

i can remember all series from 2006 - 2014.
In 2006 Dirk was often guarded by TD and immediatly doubled/Tripled as he moved to the paint or had the ball longer in his hands (for a jump shot)

2009 Pops plan ( and i think he said it after the series) was all on preventing Dirk even touching the ball and let the other mavs players pretty open. it was a risky strategy, but normally dirks help will just miss the open shots. this time they delivered and we won the series.
(btw, pop had the same plan against dirk this 2015/2016 season....but dirks m8s just shot below 30% on open shots)

2014 was very tough. Dirk had a really crappy team and carried this scrub to the playoffs in the wild west. Dirk had a 50/40/90 season (but was not rewarded for an all-nba team - what a ****ing robbery) and was just so exhausted.....i literally was scared after every game regarding a heart attack.
others can relax during regular season and safe energy for the playoffs (TD)
In the 2014 playoffs, you could see pops strategy very clearly: a) they knew that Dirk was very slow and Pop called with Bonner an excellent matchup for Dirk and especially b) prevent him from shooting 3s....they did a great job and dirks body was just dead. he could not do it alone for his team anymore at this point.

[lil jahlil]

And that's all good, but thread title clearly states that we are comparing stats between the two against the Spurs. Which is EXACTLY what Uncle Drew just did.

Not seeing the relevance of your post.
Right, but the conversation is ultimately about comparing the 2. Might as well end the thread if it stops only at the statistical comparison, because that post was already made. But that is not how message boards work.

[ShawkFactory]

Right, but the conversation is ultimately about comparing the 2. Might as well end the thread if it stops only at the statistical comparison, because that post was already made. But that is not how message boards work.
Just seems like a huge deflection to the OP being incredibly wrong to me.

[MP.Trey]

Dirk is 2/6 vs. The Spurs. :lol

The irony.

[ArbitraryWater]

Dirk Nowitzki vs Spurs (points/rebounds/assists/steals/blocks):
2001: 23/9/1/2/1 (45% FG, 10% 3P), L 4-1
2003: 25/11/2/1/0 (43% FG, 29% 3P), L 4-2 (Played in 3 games only, 1-2 in games he played)
2006: 27/13/3/1/0 (53% FG, 13% 3P), W 4-3
2009: 19/9/2/1/1 (49% FG, 13% 3P), W 4-1
2010: 27/8/3/1/1 (55% FG, 57% 3P), L 4-2
2013: 19/8/2/1/1 (43% FG, 8% 3P), L 4-3

Total: 23/10/2/1/1 (48% FG, 22% 3P), 2-4

LeBron James vs Spurs (points/rebounds/assists/steals/blocks):
2007: 22/7/7/1/1 (36% FG, 20% 3P), L 4-0
2013: 25/11/7/2/1 (45% FG, 35% 3P), W 4-3
2014: 28/8/4/2/0 (57% FG, 51% 3P), L 4-1

Total: 25/9/6/2/1 (46% FG, 35% 3P), 1-2

:roll: :roll:

That was 2014 not 2013 for Dirk, skewed his stats...

foh if you think Bron performs/performed better against them you nerd :oldlol:


No they aren't. They are objectively far worse than the 02-07 iterations.

Unless you consider old and washed up Duncan/Parker/Ginbobli to be better than all those guys in their prime plus Bruce Bowen and other elite role players.

nah, they're not, 2013-2016 and '05-'06

[Uncle Drew]

That was 2014 not 2013 for Dirk, skewed his stats...
Oh no! I made a typo. :eek:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2001-nba-western-conference-semifinals-mavericks-vs-spurs.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2003-nba-western-conference-finals-mavericks-vs-spurs.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2006-nba-western-conference-semifinals-mavericks-vs-spurs.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2009-nba-western-conference-first-round-mavericks-vs-spurs.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2010-nba-western-conference-first-round-spurs-vs-mavericks.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2014-nba-western-conference-first-round-mavericks-vs-spurs.html

Skewed stats he said. :roll:


foh if you think Bron performs/performed better against them you nerd :oldlol:

More points, basically the same amount of rebounds, thrice the assists, more steals, same amount of blocks. Suck it you nazi.