I still can't get over Lebron scoring 8 points in a Finals Game

[masonanddixon]

Seriously, that automatically bars him from being a top 50 all time player.

[Lebron23]

How about Dirk losing to an 8th seed team in the 2007 NBA Playoffs? $hit happens. Even Larry Bird scored back to back 8 points in the 1981 NBA Finals. But you probably didn't know that.

[WayOfWade]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6gb8YM4gDJ7cmoI8/giphy.gif

[RoseCity07]

Kobe 6-24 in a game 7 and needing Artest to save him was so much worse. Not to mention he let his team blow a 20 point lead in the NBA Finals on his home floor. He was in his prime and choked away a championship with a stacked team.

[masonanddixon]

How about Dirk losing to an 8th seed team in the 2007 NBA Playoffs? $hit happens. Even Larry Bird scored back to back 8 points in the 1981 NBA Finals. But you probably didn't know that.

No, because Warriors won 50 games and the West was brutal that season.

Whereas I don't think Lebron has beat more than like 3 or 4 teams in the playoffs ever that won more than 50 games, LMAO. He's a King of beating up on 15 games below 500 teams though!

[Lebron23]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6gb8YM4gDJ7cmoI8/giphy.gif

:oldlol: :lol :oldlol:

[masonanddixon]

Kobe 6-24 in a game 7 and needing Artest to save him was so much worse. Not to mention he let his team blow a 20 point lead in the NBA Finals on his home floor. He was in his prime and choked away a championship with a stacked team.

But in the context of it all: Lebron was declaring himself the games greatest player, media was hyping him up to be better than Jordan and then the dude literally had a six game meltdown on the biggest stage. I cannot think of a worse performance in all of sports given the circumstances.

[Lebron23]

No, because Warriors won 50 games and the West was brutal that season.

Whereas I don't think Lebron has beat more than like 3 or 4 teams in the playoffs ever that won more than 50 games, LMAO. He's a King of beating up on 15 games below 500 teams though!


Back to back Finals MVP

4x NBA MVP, 2x NBA Champion. And he's gonna score more points than Dirk before he turns 34.

[masonanddixon]

Back to back Finals MVP

4x NBA MVP, 2x NBA Champion. And he's gonna score more points than Dirk before he turns 34.

None of that matters,

[Uncle Drew]

No, because Warriors won 50 games and the West was brutal that season.
They won 42. :roll:

[Uncle Drew]

Another thread for me to trash you in.

[Smoke117]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6gb8YM4gDJ7cmoI8/giphy.gif


Pretty Much. That was 5 years ago...WHO GIVES A **** YOU ANYMORE YOU MAGGOT!?

[masonanddixon]

Another thread for me to trash you in.

Are you ready to open up and take another load from me? Try your best, son.

[Uncle Drew]

I still can't get over Dirk scoring 8 points in an elimination game against an 8 seed.

[Uncle Drew]

Are you ready to open up and take another load from me? Try your best, son.
http://insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=398338&page=5

Why haven't you responded in this one yet?

[Lebron23]

Another thread shut down.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/2757927/windows-7-shutdown-o.gif

[Gileraracer]

Back to back Finals MVP

4x NBA MVP, 2x NBA Champion. And he's gonna score more points than Dirk before he turns 34.


Still had to collude twice :applause:

[Uncle Drew]

http://insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=398451&page=5

Haven't responded in this one either. Why?

[masonanddixon]

http://insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=398338&page=5

Why haven't you responded in this one yet?

Because it was late as shit.

[Uncle Drew]

Because it was late as shit.
:roll:

You keep getting them L's. You're a fraud, and you know it.

[Uncle Drew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbEWxeenR84

Click here to watch Duncan get single coverage. :oldlol:

[masonanddixon]

[QUOTE=Uncle Drew]:roll:

More like I was running shit in that thread until I feel asleep.

[masonanddixon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbEWxeenR84

Click here to watch Duncan get single coverage. :oldlol:

Show the full game, young man.

[Uncle Drew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuMTBV7XkA8

Click here to watch Dirk go for 8 points in an elimination game against the 50 win (in reality 42) Warriors.

[masonanddixon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuMTBV7XkA8

Click here to watch Dirk go for 8 points in an elimination game against the 50 win (in reality 42) Warriors.

1st round playing on a team of role players out West vs the NBA FINALS playing with two other superstars.

[Uncle Drew]

We're done here.

Please open another thread with false statements for me to trash you in.

[Uncle Drew]

1st round playing on a team of role players out West vs the NBA FINALS playing with two other superstars.
8 points.
Shooting worse than Bron's finals win percentage.
Against an 8 seed.
Which were barely above .500.
In an elimination game.

[Uncle Drew]

Josh Howard was an all-star that year.

[DOUBLE DRIBBLE]

Seriously, that automatically bars him from being a top 50 all time player.

At least you will never have to worry about Goran Dragic scoring in a "Finals" game. :roll:

[Lebron23]

https://m.popkey.co/5172e6/Dogkm.gif

[Mr Feeny]

Seriously, that automatically bars him from being a top 50 all time player.

That's very interesting because your hero shot 4-20 in 2000 for 8 points
Let that sink in.
20 shots to get 8 points :lol
12thBe does what 12thBe does.

And that guy who's still playing is already top 5 all time :lebronamazed:

[red1]

I respect OP's favorite players dirk and kobe so I wont talk shit in that regard. OP himself though - my god that is one disgusting ****boy. Racist and judgemental, terrible at sports AND mentally deficient. All around awful human being. Still all love doe :cheers:

[Wade's Rings]

Pretty Much. That was 5 years ago...WHO GIVES A **** YOU ANYMORE YOU MAGGOT!?

Wade fans.

[Nash]

Lebron James - Top 10 player all time with a bunch of accolades........But since he scored 8p that game we're putting him at #51.

[Nick Young]

Kobe 6-24 in a game 7 and needing Artest to save him was so much worse. Not to mention he let his team blow a 20 point lead in the NBA Finals on his home floor. He was in his prime and choked away a championship with a stacked team.
Kobe had 15 rebounds that game. It was the greatest rebounding performance by a shooting guard in a game 7 of a finals OF ALL TIME. Kobe's shot was not falling so he found a way to dominate the game a different way, with lockdown D against one of the greatest shooters ever and on the glass.

Kobe's 15 boards in game 7 can rightly go down as one of the clutchest rebounding performances of all time.

Vs a frontcourt of Perkins, KG, Gasol and Bynum, Mamba managed to get 15 boards. That performance will be studied for years to come by rebounding enthusiasts all over the world.

[IllegalD]

That's very interesting because your hero shot 4-20 in 2000 for 8 points
Let that sink in.
20 shots to get 8 points :lol
12thBe does what 12thBe does.

And that guy who's still playing is already top 5 all time :lebronamazed:

That's very interesting because LeBron has the biggest meltdown by a supposed "GOAT" player on the Finals in history vs the Mavs. :lebronamazed:

Sad little boy getting a boner over a meaningless BSPN ranking list. :lol

[coin24]

Ring chasing in his prime and only went 2/4 in miami:lol

No alpha batman wade, no rings for bran:cheers:

[LilEddyCurry]

No, because Warriors won 50 games and the West was brutal that season.

Whereas I don't think Lebron has beat more than like 3 or 4 teams in the playoffs ever that won more than 50 games, LMAO. He's a King of beating up on 15 games below 500 teams though!
They won 42 games where did you get 50 from? The bias is real :facepalm

[red1]

Ring chasing in his prime and only went 2/4 in miami:lol

No alpha batman wade, no rings for bran:cheers:
I know bro. Back to back mvp and finals mvp. :cheers:


Respect.

http://sneakerbardetroit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Nike_Basketball_LeBron_James_Trophy_Portrait.jpg

[sportjames23]

I know bro. Back to back mvp and finals mvp. :cheers:


Respect.

http://sneakerbardetroit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Nike_Basketball_LeBron_James_Trophy_Portrait.jpg



LOL that's cute.

https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/p/6/005/09b/04b/358a0d2.jpg

[raprap]

LOL that's cute.

https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/p/6/005/09b/04b/358a0d2.jpg
I bet he'd exchange all that for a bigger dong

[sportjames23]

And why are you speculating on another man's dong? :biggums:

[red1]

I bet he'd exchange all that for a bigger dong
http://gif-finder.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Michael-Jordan-laughing.gif

[feyki]

But Lebron said that earlier , not 1 , 2 3 4 5 6 7 ; 8 man 8 ..

[Milbuck]

I bet he'd exchange all that for a bigger dong
All that means is Pippen was HUGE. Not necessarily MJ isn't packing. She was content with Pippen. LMAO @ these clowns straight reaching.

[SouBeachTalents]

I'm pretty sure besides Jordan literally every all time great has a single digit scoring Finals performance, or close to it. Probably players who only made it to 1-2 Finals would be excluded

[ShawkFactory]

New batch of 2011 finals threads? Someone is bored

[FreezingTsmoove]

Bran stans grasping for straws trying to takeover this thread but at the end of the day we all know Lebron wasnt even a top 3 player in 2011 finals let alone top 3 all time

Hell you could make the argument he wasnt even a top 3 player in the 2007 finals

[ImKobe]

Kobe 6-24 in a game 7 and needing Artest to save him was so much worse. Not to mention he let his team blow a 20 point lead in the NBA Finals on his home floor. He was in his prime and choked away a championship with a stacked team.

choked away? stacked team?

Kobe's supporting cast in the Finals

Pau 15/10
Odom 14/9
Fisher 11/3 19% from 3

And they all had a higher turnover % than KB

Kobe had limited help as guys underperformed with the exception of Odom...

Pau was a 20/10 all-star big and he got sonned big time by KG, everyone after the Finals blamed the series loss on him because he barely blocked a shot (3 blocks the entire series, same as Jordan Farmar :lol) and was scared of the moment while Kobe kept firing away against an all-time stacked defensive squad that had the homecourt advantage

The game Lakers blew their 20pt lead the bench went 5/21 for a total of 15 pts while Boston's bench had 35 pts on 11/28 shooting, can you blame Kobe when he had 10 assists for the game and scored almost all of his 17 points in the 4th? He didn't need to score early as Lakers were dominating the game and he was playing point while only taking a couple shots until he went 4/8 with 10 pts in the 4th...

Guess who made the comeback for Boston...their bench in the 3rd with Lakers scoring 3 pts in the last 6 minutes of the quarter while Eddie House drops two 3s, James Posey and P.J Brown make a couple jumpers

idk what the hell LA was thinking but regardless of that game....you go look at Game 6 and same thing happens again, their bench just rains 3s all over and it goes out of hand...Game starts with Kobe making 3 3s in a row, bring in the 2nd unit and Eddie House starts making 3s, Posey hits a 3, KG goes at Pau and just scores at will, boom 23 pt lead at the half...

stacked team my ass, Paul Pierce won the FMVP and he had worse stats than Kobe

[Dr Hawk]

Still MUCH MUCH better than Kobe's 2000 Finals

[Town's Town]

It was pretty sad. Doesn't knock him out of top 50 though.

[ImKobe]

Still MUCH MUCH better than Kobe's 2000 Finals


Kobe was injured and 20 years old...and still was better in the clutch and actually won his team Game 4 on the road and closed out the series at home in the 4th

Lebron was a negative in crunch time in his prime in the Finals...

[plowking]

All that means is Pippen was HUGE. Not necessarily MJ isn't packing. She was content with Pippen. LMAO @ these clowns straight reaching.

That was a dead on impersonation of Samurai Swish. You should be an actor.

[SouBeachTalents]

Kobe had 15 rebounds that game. It was the greatest rebounding performance by a shooting guard in a game 7 of a finals OF ALL TIME. Kobe's shot was not falling so he found a way to dominate the game a different way, with lockdown D against one of the greatest shooters ever and on the glass.

Kobe's 15 boards in game 7 can rightly go down as one of the clutchest rebounding performances of all time.

Vs a frontcourt of Perkins, KG, Gasol and Bynum, Mamba managed to get 15 boards. That performance will be studied for years to come by rebounding enthusiasts all over the world.

Bro how do you possibly not know Perkins didn't play in Game 7?

[kamil]

How about Dirk losing to an 8th seed team in the 2007 NBA Playoffs? $hit happens. Even Larry Bird scored back to back 8 points in the 1981 NBA Finals. But you probably didn't know that.

This is a thread about LeBron* being a failure, not about Dirk or Larry. Please stay on topic. Nice try diverting attention.

[aj1987]

Kobe was injured and 20 years old...and still was better in the clutch and actually won his team Game 4 on the road and closed out the series at home in the 4th

Lebron was a negative in crunch time in his prime in the Finals...
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Kobe scored 3.5 points in the 4th on 37% TS. After the Lakers were up 3-1, Kobe had his legendary performance. 8 points on 20% TS. In game 6, the dude scored 26 points on 27 shots. Fortunately, he had Shaq putting up 41 points on 59% shooting.

[ImKobe]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Kobe scored 3.5 points in the 4th on 37% TS. After the Lakers were up 3-1, Kobe had his legendary performance. 8 points on 20% TS. In game 6, the dude scored 26 points on 27 shots. Fortunately, he had Shaq putting up 41 points on 59% shooting.

bullshit

it was Game 4 that Kobe had his performance on the road to go 3 - 1, in OT with Shaq fouled out....Game 5 they got blown out by 30+ points

Kobe showed up when it mattered in that series

[Dr Hawk]

bullshit

it was Game 4 that Kobe had his performance on the road to go 3 - 1, in OT with Shaq fouled out....Game 5 they got blown out by 30+ points

Kobe showed up when it mattered in that series

If Kobe showed up more consistentlythroughout the series maybe there wouldn't be any need of showing up when it mattered

[aj1987]

bullshit
It's not really that hard to go onto NBA.com and check the stats.


it was Game 4 that Kobe had his performance on the road to go 3 - 1, in OT with Shaq fouled out....
Yeah. He did. I'm talking about games 5 and 6 though. Shaq still had a huge game and Kobe let 34 year old Miller drop 35 on his ass. On 71% TS.


Game 5 they got blown out by 30+ points
True. Probably had something to do with Kobe shooting 4-20. The bench was terrible though. Heck, everyone except Shaq played like shit.


Kobe showed up when it mattered in that series
Really? Where was he in games 5 & 6?

[ImKobe]

If Kobe showed up more consistentlythroughout the series maybe there wouldn't be any need of showing up when it mattered

so they should be upset that they won the title

he was INJURED, missed Game 3 (that Lakers lost with him out) and played the rest of the series on a sprained ankle...first game back he plays 40+ minutes in an overtime game that he takes over late... maybe if you actually played basketball and ever seriously sprained your ankle you would understand how what he did was impressive, especially for someone at 20 years of age. Lakers aren't in the Finals anyway if he doesn't do what he did in the previous series and Lakers lose the Finals if he decides to sit out..

[jlip]

So whose trolling alt is this masonanddixon poster?

[ImKobe]

It's not really that hard to go onto NBA.com and check the stats.


Yeah. He did. I'm talking about games 5 and 6 though. Shaq still had a huge game and Kobe let 34 year old Miller drop 35 on his ass. On 71% TS.


True. Probably had something to do with Kobe shooting 4-20. The bench was terrible though. Heck, everyone except Shaq played like shit.


Really? Where was he in games 5 & 6?

Game 5 wasn't even close to begin with, Kobe just got off from playing almost a full game after coming back from a sprained ankle and obviously wasn't on his game, the whole team outside of Shaq shot horribly while Jalen Rose went off in that game, Kobe wasn't healthy enough to chase Reggie through multiple screens but LA didn't take it seriously enough as a whole because they need 1 win and have 2 home games to go

By the way, as you rip Kobe for letting Reggie go off on him, he held Reggie to 1/16 shooting in Game 1 so I guess if you're gonna rip him for Game 5 you have to praise his defense in Game 1 before the injury.

As far as Game 6 goes, watch this, 26/10 and closes out the 4th, what more do you want?

https://youtu.be/VFHqwat3Wm8?t=224

[pauk]

Then you will have to remove very many from top 50, especially Bird who had two 8 point games in a row in a Finals..... there would no players in top 50 if you removed all who had 8 point games or bad games in Finals....

[aj1987]

Game 5 wasn't even close to begin with, Kobe just got off from playing almost a full game after coming back from a sprained ankle and obviously wasn't on his game, the whole team outside of Shaq shot horribly while Jalen Rose went off in that game, Kobe wasn't healthy enough to chase Reggie through multiple screens but LA didn't take it seriously enough as a whole because they need 1 win and have 2 home games to go
What kind of retarded thought process is that? :facepalm


By the way, as you rip Kobe for letting Reggie go off on him, he held Reggie to 1/16 shooting in Game 1 so I guess if you're gonna rip him for Game 5 you have to praise his defense in Game 1 before the injury.
It wasn't even close to being Kobe's defense on him. Watch the game, if you can download it. Reggie just shot like shit. Dude was garbage.


As far as Game 6 goes, watch this, 26/10 and closes out the 4th, what more do you want?
That's why highlights can be deceiving. Dude missed 7 shots prior to making that one in the 4th Q. He was the reason why the Pacers even had a chance of winning. Shaq, OTOH, had 13 points, 4 rebounds, and 3 blocks on 6-6 shooting in the 4th. He did miss a couple of FT's though.

Just admit it and move on, dude. Kobe was absolutely terrible in the '00 Finals. Austin Crosier averaged better numbers than Kobe in the Finals.

[34-24 Footwork]

What kind of retarded thought process is that? :facepalm


It wasn't even close to being Kobe's defense on him. Watch the game, if you can download it. Reggie just shot like shit. Dude was garbage.


That's why highlights can be deceiving. Dude missed 7 shots prior to making that one in the 4th Q. He was the reason why the Pacers even had a chance of winning. Shaq, OTOH, had 13 points, 4 rebounds, and 3 blocks on 6-6 shooting in the 4th. He did miss a couple of FT's though.

Just admit it and move on, dude. Kobe was absolutely terrible in the '00 Finals. Austin Crosier averaged better numbers than Kobe in the Finals.


Lol. This clown pretending that Jalen didn't intentionally injure kobe Bryant.

Meanwhile, you and your band of f@ggots were defending Lebron for steroid cramps in in game one 2014 finals after being carried off the court like a b1tch.

No bias doe :lol :lol

[aj1987]

Lol. This clown pretending that Jalen didn't intentionally injure kobe Bryant.
What does that have anything to do with the discussion I'm having right now?


Meanwhile, you and your band of f@ggots were defending Lebron for steroid cramps in in game one 2014 finals after being carried off the court like a b1tch.
I don't think I ever really cared that much about that incident.


No bias doe :lol :lol
Pot, kettle, and all that good stuff.

As I said, Kobe was garbage and you 12be stans need to deal with it.

[34-24 Footwork]

What does that have anything to do with the discussion I'm having right now?


I don't think I ever really cared that much about that incident.


Pot, kettle, and all that good stuff.

As I said, Kobe was garbage and you 12be stans need to deal with it.

Jalen Rose injured Kobe in the 2000 Finals which probably led to lower overall numbers.

But you didnt' watch that finals. But I'm sure you have Kobe's finals stats posted on your microfridge for quick reference :lol

[Wally450]

50 win Warriors in 07. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Dudes trying to salvage Dirk and the Mavs shitting the bed in 07.

[aj1987]

Jalen Rose injured Kobe in the 2000 Finals which probably led to lower overall numbers.
Dude averaged 20 PPG against the Pacers on 50% TS. It's not like he murdered them when he was healthy. Also, why the heck would you take 20 shots (while making only 4) when you have probably the 2nd greatest C in the paint? Low IQ, perhaps? If you're injured, give the ball to the MDE. Not that hard. :confusedshrug:


But you didnt' watch that finals. But I'm sure you have Kobe's finals stats posted on your microfridge for quick reference :lol
Shaq and Wade are 2 of my favorite players. I'm pretty sure that I've seen all of Shaq's Finals. You, OTOH, are quite obviously an idiot and you don't understand basketball at all.

[kamil]

Jalen Rose injured Kobe in the 2000 Finals which probably led to lower overall numbers.

But you didnt' watch that finals. But I'm sure you have Kobe's finals stats posted on your microfridge for quick reference :lol

LMFAO!!!!! :roll: :roll:

[ImKobe]

What kind of retarded thought process is that? :facepalm


It wasn't even close to being Kobe's defense on him. Watch the game, if you can download it. Reggie just shot like shit. Dude was garbage.


That's why highlights can be deceiving. Dude missed 7 shots prior to making that one in the 4th Q. He was the reason why the Pacers even had a chance of winning. Shaq, OTOH, had 13 points, 4 rebounds, and 3 blocks on 6-6 shooting in the 4th. He did miss a couple of FT's though.

Just admit it and move on, dude. Kobe was absolutely terrible in the '00 Finals. Austin Crosier averaged better numbers than Kobe in the Finals.

You have 0 valid points :facepalm

So when Reggie is 1/16 Kobe's defense doesn't matter but when he has a good game it's solely because Kobe allowed him to do that :rolleyes:

AGAIN with the fricken averages, he played injured 4 out of the 5 games in the Finals, 9 whole minutes in the one he sprained his ankle :facepalm

if it was your dream girl Lebron/Wade you would be making every excuse in the world as to why such and such happened. I provided facts and you go off some bullshit. It was a 3 point game at the end and he drove and got to the FT line and closed out the series, he also closed out Game 4 on the road in OT without Shaq. He also led the Lakers in points, rebounds, assists AND blocks in Game 7 of the WCF that got the Lakers in the Finals in the first place while shaq had 18 pts 9 rebounds

Why is it that you disregard every positive thing Kobe did for his team to win the championship? He was great the entire PO run and had a rather serious injury that would normally take 2-4 weeks to fully recover from yet came back after only missing one game and still ended up being a difference maker in the series. Dude was 21 yrs old you use peak Shaq as an argument against what Kobe did individually.

[Hey Yo]

Ring chasing in his prime and only went 2/4 in miami:lol

No alpha batman wade, no rings for bran:cheers:
Kobe went ring chasing before he was even drafted. He wanted no part of building a contending team....he wanted to instantly be on a contender.

http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/kobe-bryant-lakers-hornets-draft-day/265370

[Derka]

Well that sounds like a personal problem.

[aj1987]

You have 0 valid points :facepalm

So when Reggie is 1/16 Kobe's defense doesn't matter but when he has a good game it's solely because Kobe allowed him to do that
Watch the tape, dude. It's not really that hard. Miller was just cold AF.


AGAIN with the fricken averages, he played injured 4 out of the 5 games in the Finals, 9 whole minutes in the one he sprained his ankle
Does that excuse his chucking? Isn't it pretty much a given that if you're struggling and have a top 5 GOAT (in his PEAK) on your team, that you should pass it to him?


if it was your dream girl Lebron/Wade you would be making every excuse in the world as to why such and such happened.
Not really. Whenever LeBron/Wade play like shit, I always shit on them.


I provided facts and you go off some bullshit.
What facts?


It was a 3 point game at the end and he drove and got to the FT line and closed out the series, he also closed out Game 4 on the road in OT without Shaq.
That's why highlights can be deceiving. Dude missed 7 shots prior to making that one in the 4th Q. He was the reason why the Pacers even had a chance of winning. Shaq, OTOH, had 13 points, 4 rebounds, and 3 blocks on 6-6 shooting in the 4th. He did miss a couple of FT's though.

Do you even read, dude?



He also led the Lakers in points, rebounds, assists AND blocks in Game 7 of the WCF that got the Lakers in the Finals in the first place while shaq had 18 pts 9 rebounds
The **** does that have to do with the Finals?

Also, you forgot game 5. They really wouldn't have needed games 6 and 7, if Kobe doesn't shit the bed.



Why is it that you disregard every positive thing Kobe did for his team to win the championship?
When did I do that? I'm just pointing out that the guy was garbage in the Finals.


He was great the entire PO run
He was good, but not great.


had a rather serious injury that would normally take 2-4 weeks to fully recover from yet came back after only missing one game and still ended up being a difference maker in the series. Dude was 21 yrs old you use peak Shaq as an argument against what Kobe did individually.
You might want to go back and read my posts again.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

All that means is Pippen was HUGE. Not necessarily MJ isn't packing. She was content with Pippen. LMAO @ these clowns straight reaching.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[tpols]

neither can I..

to those bringing up kobe and Bird are just kiddies ignoring context. Look at the drop off.. Kobe wasnt even in his prime in 2000, and he was hurt, intentionally, by a scumbag move. Bird was doing work on the boards against moses malone, providing spacing for his teammates, and in general was a fully engaged participant.

Lebron contributed absolutely nothing and there was no reason for it.

[riseagainst]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6gb8YM4gDJ7cmoI8/giphy.gif


i think you accidentally switched the faces.

[SouBeachTalents]

neither can I..

to those bringing up kobe and Bird are just kiddies ignoring context. Look at the drop off.. Kobe wasnt even in his prime in 2000, and he was hurt, intentionally, by a scumbag move. Bird was doing work on the boards against moses malone, providing spacing for his teammates, and in general was a fully engaged participant.

Lebron contributed absolutely nothing and there was no reason for it.

Agreed

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=343651

[aj1987]

neither can I..

to those bringing up kobe and Bird are just kiddies ignoring context. Look at the drop off.. Kobe wasnt even in his prime in 2000, and he was hurt, intentionally, by a scumbag move. Bird was doing work on the boards against moses malone, providing spacing for his teammates, and in general was a fully engaged participant.

Lebron contributed absolutely nothing and there was no reason for it.
Yeah, LeBron's performance was absolutely terrible and cost the Heat a ring, but are we gonna ignore the 9 rebounds and 7 assists and 2 steals? Lets not act like Bird has some amazing game. Dude was terrible in those two games as well. Why do those two thing only count when it comes to Bird?

[AirBonner]

i think you accidentally switched the faces.
According to a major sports broadcasting network and a very reputable magazine you are wrong.

[AirBonner]

Yeah, LeBron's performance was absolutely terrible and cost the Heat a ring, but are we gonna ignore the 9 rebounds and 7 assists and 2 steals? Lets not act like Bird has some amazing game. Dude was terrible in those two games as well. Why do those two thing only count when it comes to Bird?
People like to hold Bron to the highest standard. It comes with being top 5

[choppermagic]

Kobe 6-24 in a game 7 and needing Artest to save him was so much worse. Not to mention he let his team blow a 20 point lead in the NBA Finals on his home floor. He was in his prime and choked away a championship with a stacked team.

What are you talking about? Game 7 where everyone was having a hell time scoring. Kobe scored 10 points in the 4th quarter, grabbed 15 rebounds in a game decided by rebounds. Artest scored one 3 pointer in the final stretch doesn't mean he saved the Lakers. And most of all, the Lakers WON that game and series over their rivals.

[tmacattack33]

Bleh.

Every player, even other top 5 players, have had bad games as well.

What is more concerning here is the fact that the OP doesn't understand regression and variation and seems to have a 2nd grade math students brain, as he is apparently going to dismiss the other 1,000 + games of Lebron's career because of one game.

By this logic, Tony Delk must be a top 50 player of all time due to his 50 point game, as there are a quite few top 50 players who never scored 50 in any single game.

[Wade's Rings]

Yeah, LeBron's performance was absolutely terrible and cost the Heat a ring, but are we gonna ignore the 9 rebounds and 7 assists and 2 steals? Lets not act like Bird has some amazing game. Dude was terrible in those two games as well. Why do those two thing only count when it comes to Bird?

Bird averaged 15rbds and 7asts for that series so I would assume he rebounded well and got a good amount of assists those Games. 1 of the Games was a blowout victory for the Celtics. The close 5 point lost is the best Game to compare to Bron's IMO. The biggest problem with Bron is that he had 8 points in a 4 point loss, he had 0 4th quarter points, IIRC he also air balled like 2-3 layups in that Game. Bird's wasn't that bad IMO.

[Wade's Rings]

All that means is Pippen was HUGE. Not necessarily MJ isn't packing. She was content with Pippen. LMAO @ these clowns straight reaching.

This :oldlol:

[IllegalD]

What are you talking about? Game 7 where everyone was having a hell time scoring. Kobe scored 10 points in the 4th quarter, grabbed 15 rebounds in a game decided by rebounds. Artest scored one 3 pointer in the final stretch doesn't mean he saved the Lakers. And most of all, the Lakers WON that game and series over their rivals.

Exactly.

Not to mention that Kobe made the assist to Artest's memorable 3 pointer that these fools always cite.

:roll:

https://youtu.be/0Vu9-3wV4PY

Of course they "conveniently" leave that out because that would be admitting that Kobe had a hand in creating the biggest/most memorable play of a Finals Game 7.

If this was Jordan or LeBron these fools would be falling all over themselves about how they had an "epic assist" in Game 7 of the Finals, and that Artest wouldn't have made that shot had anyone else passed to them. What's the difference between Kobe passing to Artest in the Finals for a big/memorable shot and Jordan passing to Kerr? (other than passing to a wide open Kerr is an obvious play that ANYONE would make, while passing to Ron "Yakety Sax" Artest is a gunslinger gamble)

[tmacattack33]

neither can I..

to those bringing up kobe and Bird are just kiddies ignoring context. Look at the drop off.. Kobe wasnt even in his prime in 2000, and he was hurt, intentionally, by a scumbag move. Bird was doing work on the boards against moses malone, providing spacing for his teammates, and in general was a fully engaged participant.

Lebron contributed absolutely nothing and there was no reason for it.

Kobe's 2004 was a negative, as he ended a whole lot of Laker possessions with 0 points. And his TS% was worse than his team's.

Lebron's 2011 was more so a neutral, as he didn't shoot much and didn't miss much.

Which is worse? Well, if you can't figure it out you can ask any one who has passed 5th grade and knows what a negative number is.

[HOoopCityJones]

If Kobe showed up more consistentlythroughout the series maybe there wouldn't be any need of showing up when it mattered

He was playing hurt. You guys deepthroat guys for getting wheeled off the court for shoulder injuries for crying outloud. :lol

Let's see if Hakeem could or even would play an entire series on a bum ankle.

[HOoopCityJones]

Kobe's 2004 was a negative, as he ended a whole lot of Laker possessions with 0 points. And his TS% was worse than his team's.

Lebron's 2011 was more so a neutral, as he didn't shoot much and didn't miss much.

Which is worse? Well, if you can't figure it out you can ask any one who has passed 5th grade and knows what a negative number is.

Only difference is the Team Kobe lost to is considered the greatest defensive unit of this era, along with the only other Team that beat us in the Finals the 08 Celtics.

Bron dug his head into the sand against a fringe Finals Mavs Team that while deserved to be there with how many good Teams they went through, had no business beating the 2011 Heat. Especially how great they were playing going in to The Finals.



Also Kobe is responsible for the only game we won in the 04 series.




Lebron's 2011 was more so a neutral, as he didn't shoot much and didn't miss much.

Which is worse? Well, if you can't figure it out you can ask any one who has passed 5th grade and knows what a negative number is.


Yea of course he didn't make or miss much. Because he wasn't doing anything at all, as in he didn't put in any effort. He was standing in a corner getting soned by Jason Terry and JJ Barea.

[Dr Hawk]

He was playing hurt. You guys deepthroat guys for getting wheeled off the court for shoulder injuries for crying outloud. :lol

Let's see if Hakeem could or even would play an entire series on a bum ankle.

Yes he would

[HOoopCityJones]

Yes he would

No he wouldn't. Bigs can barley run up the court with leg or foot injuries dumbass.

[Town's Town]

All that means is Pippen was HUGE. Not necessarily MJ isn't packing. She was content with Pippen. LMAO @ these clowns straight reaching.
She wrote that song about Pippen :eek:

[Dr Hawk]

No he wouldn't. Bigs can barley run up the court with leg or foot injuries dumbass.

Hakeem could move like a guard you mother****er

[HOoopCityJones]

Hakeem could move like a guard you mother****er

Why you mad tho? :oldlol:

Hakeem is lauded for three things.

1. Post moves

2. Defense

3. Footwork


All three of those have a common denominator, i'll let you figure it out on your own.

[Dr Hawk]

Why you mad tho? :oldlol:

Hakeem is lauded for three things.

1. Post moves

2. Defense

3. Footwork


All three of those have a common denominator, i'll let you figure it out on your own.

Nah, I'm just kidding :D

I guess there will be examples of bigs playing with sprained ankles though

[aj1987]

Bird averaged 15rbds and 7asts for that series so I would assume he rebounded well and got a good amount of assists those Games. 1 of the Games was a blowout victory for the Celtics. The close 5 point lost is the best Game to compare to Bron's IMO. The biggest problem with Bron is that he had 8 points in a 4 point loss, he had 0 4th quarter points, IIRC he also air balled like 2-3 layups in that Game. Bird's wasn't that bad IMO.
I'm talking about games 3 & 4 in particular though. Granted, Bird had 8/12/10 in game 3, but his game 4 was just bad. 8/12/7, IIRC. He shot terribly as well. Game 4 was a 5 point loss for the Celtics.