Nevada caucuses and South Carolina Primaries

[bladefd]

Hillary won Nevada caucus by slim margin. She is leaving with a few more delegates but essentially is a split. Looks like she is getting 3 or 4 more delegates while spending millions more and significantly more resources than Bernie. They are going to South Carolina next.

Waiting on South Carolina now. SC GOP primary closes in 55 minutes. Donald Duck expected to win by large margin.

[NumberSix]

Hillary won Nevada caucus by slim margin. She is leaving with a few more delegates but essentially is a split. Looks like she is getting 3 or 4 more delegates while spending millions more and significantly more resources than Bernie. They are going to South Carolina next.

Waiting on South Carolina now. SC GOP primary closes in 55 minutes. Donald Duck expected to win by large margin.
Wouldn't be shocked if Trump doesn't win SC. He's taken a lot of hits right before the vote. He's odds on favorite, but I wouldn't be shocked either way.

[9erempiree]

Hillary won Nevada caucus by slim margin. She is leaving with a few more delegates but essentially is a split. Looks like she is getting 3 or 4 more delegates while spending millions more and significantly more resources than Bernie. They are going to South Carolina next.

Waiting on South Carolina now. SC GOP primary closes in 55 minutes. Donald Duck expected to win by large margin.

I can't believe an intelligent person like yourself is a democrat.

[bladefd]

I can't believe an intelligent person like yourself is a democrat.

I'm an independent. Republicans, other than Kasich, are not selling anything I would buy.

I cannot vote in NJ primary unless if I declare for a party, which I won't. Not unless if there is a reason I must.

[9erempiree]

I'm an independent. Republicans, other than Kasich, are not selling anything I would buy.

I cannot vote in NJ primary unless if I declare for a party, which I won't. Not unless if there is a reason I must.

The safe bet is to affiliate yourself with republicans and vote for
Trump.

[NumberSix]

I'm an independent. Republicans, other than Kasich, are not selling anything I would buy.

I cannot vote in NJ primary unless if I declare for a party, which I won't. Not unless if there is a reason I must.
Wouldn't you prefer that the government just stay out of your life altogether? Or at least as much as possible?

[bladefd]

The safe bet is to affiliate yourself with republicans and vote for
Trump.

Trump is not somebody I would vote for. He is narcissistic.

[DeuceWallaces]

Good win for Hillary, especially considering she's about to run Sherman's March through the south. Rough road ahead for Bernie.

[FillJackson]

Wouldn't you prefer that the government just stay out of your life altogether? Or at least as much as possible?
Bladefd is undecided! We must all lobby Bladefd!

[zoom17]

Trump wins big.

[TheSilentKiller]

Wouldn't you prefer that the government just stay out of your life altogether? Or at least as much as possible?
:oldlol: :oldlol:

[dude77]

Trump wins big.

boom .. establishment officially on suicide watch

[BasedTom]

I'm an independent. Republicans, other than Kasich, are not selling anything I would buy.

I cannot vote in NJ primary unless if I declare for a party, which I won't. Not unless if there is a reason I must.
same situation for me in my state

[FillJackson]

Hillary won Nevada caucus by slim margin. She is leaving with a few more delegates but essentially is a split. Looks like she is getting 3 or 4 more delegates while spending millions more and significantly more resources than Bernie.
Bernie went pretty hard after Nevada. Bernie had more campaign offices in Nevada and outspent Hillary in Nevada by about $500,000. In fact, he forced Clinton to spend more there than she wanted.

The reasoning for this, is Sanders faces a very tough stretch ahead. (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/02/clinton-leads-in-10-of-12-early-march-primaries-benefits-from-overwhelming-black-support.html#more)


State.......................Clinton Support.......................Sanders Support.......................Spread.............. .........
Alabama.......................59%................. ......31%.......................Clinton +28
Arkansas.......................57%................ .......32%.......................Clinton +25
Georgia.......................60%................. ......26%.......................Clinton +34
Louisiana.......................60%............... ........29%.......................Clinton +31
Massachusetts.......................42%........... ............49%.......................Sanders +7
Michigan.......................50%................ .......40%.......................Clinton +10
Mississippi.......................60%............. ..........26%.......................Clinton +34
Oklahoma.......................46%................ .......44%.......................Clinton +2
Tennessee.......................58%............... ........32%.......................Clinton +26
Texas.......................57%................... ....34%.......................Clinton +23
Virginia.......................56%................ .......34%.......................Clinton +22
Vermont.......................10%................. ......86%.......................Sanders +76

[oh the horror]

At what point does Kasich, Carson and Bush drop out? Those guys are done

[FillJackson]

This are not polling averages, but single polls in each state from PPP which has a very good track record.

So of 12 states, Bernie will certainly win 1, most likely 2 and then is competitive in only one other state.

[bladefd]

Bernie went pretty hard after Nevada. Bernie had more campaign offices in Nevada and outspent Hillary in Nevada by about $500,000. In fact, he forced Clinton to spend more there than she wanted.


Bernie really spent more? Damn, it feels like the exact opposite. :confusedshrug:

The biggest Nevada ad spenders:
Team Clinton: $3.3 million
Team Sanders: $3.2 million
Team Rubio: $560,000

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/clinton-now-outspending-sanders-nevada-airwaves-n519651
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-02-17/sanders-spent-nearly-twice-as-much-as-clinton-on-tv-ads-as-nevada-vote-approaches

[bladefd]

At what point does Kasich, Carson and Bush drop out? Those guys are done

I expect Carson to drop after all votes are in tonight. Kasich or Bush will drop after Tuesday when Nevada GOP caucus results are in.

[FillJackson]

Bernie really spent more? Damn, it feels like the exact opposite. :confusedshrug:

The biggest Nevada ad spenders:
Team Clinton: $3.3 million
Team Sanders: $3.2 million
Team Rubio: $560,000

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/clinton-now-outspending-sanders-nevada-airwaves-n519651
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-02-17/sanders-spent-nearly-twice-as-much-as-clinton-on-tv-ads-as-nevada-vote-approaches
Those numbers are a few days old. I'm now seeing reports that they both spent closer to 4 million.

The report I saw must have been old too.....someone linked to it today. Because they had Bernie at 3.2 and Clinton at 2.7.

[bladefd]

Those numbers are a few days old. I'm now seeing reports that they both spent closer to 4 million.

The report I saw must have been old too.....someone linked to it today. Because they had Bernie at 3.2 and Clinton at 2.7.


her operatives added a half-million dollars to their ad spending on broadcast, satellite and cable for a total of $3.4 million to Sanders' $3.7 million, according to data from Kantar Media/CMAG, a company that tracks political advertising.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/20/politics/nevada-caucus-democrats-2016/

Well, I stand corrected. Sanders spent $300,000 more than Hillary in Nevada.

[knickballer]

At what point does Kasich, Carson and Bush drop out? Those guys are done

In the POV of the Republican party and the establishment they're doing more harm then good. They're taking votes away from Rubio and Cruz and instead Trump is controlling a commanding lead. Unless maybe Trump is in good terms with Carson and those few points are being sucked away from Cruz or Rubio?

But yeah.. What a disaster by Jeb!

[9erempiree]

Those numbers are a few days old. I'm now seeing reports that they both spent closer to 4 million.

The report I saw must have been old too.....someone linked to it today. Because they had Bernie at 3.2 and Clinton at 2.7.

No need to trip.

If you are undecided I sod consider trump.

[oh the horror]

Well it appears Jeb is bowing out and Ben Carson is delusional

[bladefd]

Jeb Bush is quitting the race. That will put Rubio over Cruz as Jeb's votes will go to Rubio.

Carson staying in race for now.

[FillJackson]

AP report. 6PM today
[QUOTE]In recent months, Sanders spent slightly more than Clinton on television and radio ads in the state, investing $4 million to her $3.6 million, according to advertising tracker Kantar Media

[DonDadda59]

Rubio will siphon all of Bush's supporters and donors.

[NumberSix]

Jeb Bush is quitting the race. That will put Rubio over Cruz as Jeb's votes will go to Rubio.

Carson staying in race for now.
People say this every election, but it's never this clear cut. I wouldn't be shocked if half of Jeb's support goes to Kasich. His more conservative supporters could go to Cruz. It's not all going to go to Rubio. Don't forget, there has been really bad blood between the Jeb and Rubio camps.

[zoom17]

Rubio will siphon all of Bush's supporters and donors.

To late Trump will run away with this.

[Trollsmasher]

Rest in pieces, Guacman

I have never seen one man get so thoroughly destroyed by two simple words

[FillJackson]

These numbers are brutal

86% reporting Delegates Vote %
Trump (won)...........38........33.1%
Rubio..................0.........22.3%
Cruz.........0.........21.7%
Bush .........0 .........8.2%
Kasich.........0.........7.8%
Carson.........0.........6.9%

Rubio and Cruz getting zero delegates.

[bladefd]

:roll: :roll:

I don't like states that are all or nothing. Imagine if someone edges out by 1% and gets every single delegate. Just imagine Iowa being all-or-nothing and somebody winning by 0.3%. It is an insane system that must be fixed.

[NumberSix]

Wow. Trump won at least 41 of the 50 delegates.

[FillJackson]

:roll: :roll:

I don't like states that are all or nothing. Imagine if someone edges out by 1% and gets every single delegate. Just imagine Iowa being all-or-nothing and somebody winning by 0.3%. It is an insane system that must be fixed.
South Carolina was not all or nothing, but winning the state gets you a big chunk of delegates

[Smook B]

https://i.gyazo.com/1457cf08472282d95db04c361ec2096d.gif

[Patrick Chewing]

Rubio will siphon all of Bush's supporters and donors.


He does give great speeches.


But so did a guy named Barack Obama.


Rubio and Governor Haley do look like a great ticket. A Cuban and an Indian running this country so they can pick up the pieces left by a Black man.

[bladefd]

South Carolina was not all or nothing, but winning the state gets you a big chunk of delegates

Then how come Trump got all the delegates? He has 32% to Rubio 22%, yet he has all the delegates and Rubio has 0. :confusedshrug:

edit: Nevermind, the state has 50 delegates.. 6 delegates just haven't committed yet. Trump has 44 delegates.

[ROCSteady]

Good win for Hillary, especially considering she's about to run Sherman's March through the south. Rough road ahead for Bernie.


You're voting for Hilary aren't you

[dude77]

trump takes all 50 delegates

dt lowering the boom on these pretenders

[FillJackson]

Then how come Trump got all the delegates? He has 32% to Rubio 22%, yet he has all the delegates and Rubio has 0. :confusedshrug:

edit: Nevermind, the state has 50 delegates.. 6 delegates just haven't committed yet. Trump has 44 delegates.
I think the rest of the delegates are won by winning the counties. So if trump also won at the county level, he would win all the delegates.

SC has a hybrid system

If a candidate wins the statewide vote, that candidate claims all 29 delegates. If a candidate receives a plurality in one of the seven congressional districts, that candidate is awarded all three delegates from that district.

So Trump came in first statewide AND first in all 7 congressional districts.

[dunksby]

Sanders lost the black vote but won the Hispanic vote by 53 percent to 45 percent.

Clinton (won)
19 Del
53%
Sanders
15 Del
48%

[dunksby]

Then how come Trump got all the delegates? He has 32% to Rubio 22%, yet he has all the delegates and Rubio has 0. :confusedshrug:

edit: Nevermind, the state has 50 delegates.. 6 delegates just haven't committed yet. Trump has 44 delegates.

Trump's victory won him at least 44 of the state's 50 delegates, bringing his delegate count to 61, compared to 11 for Cruz and 10 for Rubio, according to a tally by Real Clear Politics. Republicans need 1,237 delegates to win the party nomination.
Reuters.

[9erempiree]

Sanders lost the black vote but won the Hispanic vote by 53 percent to 45 percent.

Clinton (won)
19 Del
53%
Sanders
15 Del
48%

Nobody cares.

Only democrats care about 'black and hispanic' votes.

We're America and we are all the same. Bottom line...South Carolina has spoken.

[IcanzIIravor]

Well it appears Jeb is bowing out and Ben Carson is delusional

Carson is staying in to hurt Cruz. If Carson drops out the people who vote for him likely go over to Cruz. I think he is going to punish Cruz for what Cruz did in Iowa for as long as he can.

[FillJackson]

Nobody cares.

Only democrats care about 'black and hispanic' votes.

We're America and we are all the same. Bottom line...South Carolina has spoken.
says the white nationalist

[9erempiree]

says the white nationalist

American Nationalism.

America is the best bro.

Only the libtards like to bring up stuff like the 'women' vote. the black vote. the latino vote.

[FillJackson]

American Nationalism.

America is the best bro.

Only the libtards like to bring up stuff like the 'women' vote. the black vote. the latino vote.
Yeah, none of those are Americans, amirite?

[FillJackson]

Sanders lost the black vote but won the Hispanic vote by 53 percent to 45 percent.
That was based on early entrance polls. Given that Hillary won the state and won majority Hispanic areas, it seems unlikely that Bernie won the Hispanic vote. I don't think the numbers could work out otherwise

[9erempiree]

Yeah, none of those are Americans, amirite?
:facepalm You don't know what you are arguing with me.

I look at all votes as the same. We are all Americans bro.

Libs like to bring up the 'latino vote' the 'black vote' and the 'women vote'....what are you arguing again?

[9erempiree]

Sanders lost the black vote but won the Hispanic vote by 53 percent to 45 percent.


Can I ask why there is such a tabulation? :oldlol:

Where are the Asians?

Where are gay votes?

[UK2K]

American Nationalism.

America is the best bro.

Only the libtards like to bring up stuff like the 'women' vote. the black vote. the latino vote.
I read only 1.8% of voters showed up in a predominantly black area in SC.

Some thought they were voting in the democrat elections.

Blacks blindly vote for Democrats which is why nothing they want will ever be addressed. No reason to waste your time pandering to voters who won't ever vote for the other party.

[9erempiree]

I read only 1.8% of voters showed up in a predominantly black area in SC.

Some thought they were voting in the democrat elections.

Blacks blindly vote for Democrats which is why nothing they want will ever be addressed. No reason to waste your time pandering to voters who won't ever vote for the other party.

It's crazy how that party keep tabs on the race of their voters.

Where are gays and lesbian vote?:lol

I'm surprise they are not keeping tabs on Asians so they can get their vote.

Pandering.

[Dresta]

Nobody cares.

Only democrats care about 'black and hispanic' votes.

We're America and we are all the same. Bottom line...South Carolina has spoken.
This is actually a good point. Other countries don't do this shit: Americans are bloody obsessed with ethnicity, and for some reason divide the electorate into ethnicity blocks; I've been in the UK for a bunch of elections, and they never pull that shit (only with women i think, and still far less often).

Race is a national neurosis in the US. No wonder the place is so racially polarised considering everyone's always dividing the various ethnicities and lumping them into a group.