Ben Simmons might not even lead his team a tournament bid

[Hey Yo]

All the hype and you can't even get your team into the tournament?

Almost be like Wiggins.... losing in the 1st round to Marist, but worse.


If LSU doesn't get in and Simmons still gets picked 1st overall...his only company in history doing that is Michael Olowokandi.

[Marchesk]

All the hype and you can't even get your team into the tournament?

Almost be like Wiggins.... losing in the 1st round to Marist, but worse.

That KU team had Embiid and Wiggins and still lost 10 games and the first round in the Tourney (granted Embiid was hurt by then, but still).

[Lebron23]

http://marylandsportsinsider.com/wordpress1/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/brandon-ingram-0288-l.jpg

Ingram is the safer pick.

[Cocaine80s]

http://marylandsportsinsider.com/wordpress1/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/brandon-ingram-0288-l.jpg

Ingram is the safer pick.
this

[GrapeApe]

Simmons is yet another example of why the one year rule is dumb.

[Kblaze8855]

Well he will never catch LSUs all time leader in winless hype. Pistol Pete didnt make the tournament once in his 3 years(4...but freshmen couldnt play varsity at the time). And they didnt win the NIT either. I think the best they did was a 4th place NIT finish.

[Bosnian Sajo]

I thought kandi averaged 22/11 in the tourny?

[warriorfan]

Our lakers are going to sign KD and draft Simmons and have a potential dynasty.

[Cocaine80s]

Our lakers are going to sign KD and draft Simmons and have a potential dynasty.
Looks like jabbar forgot to switch accounts :roll:

[Achilleas]

Our lakers are going to sign KD and draft Simmons and have a potential dynasty.

you disrespecting warriors fans :no: :rant

[navy]

Our lakers are going to sign KD and draft Simmons and have a potential dynasty.
Damn, should have known your were an alt :biggums:

[Smoke117]

Looks like jabbar forgot to switch accounts :roll:

When you have as many as he does it has to be tough to keep track.

[GrapeApe]

Our lakers are going to sign KD and draft Simmons and have a potential dynasty.

:oldlol:

It seems like this has heen happening a lot lately. I'm starting to think this board is made up of like 10 people.

[references]

Our lakers are going to sign KD and draft Simmons and have a potential dynasty.
idiot

[bobopenguin]

Our lakers are going to sign KD and draft Simmons and have a potential dynasty.
lol exposed.:facepalm

[CarlosBoozer]

Our lakers are going to sign KD and draft Simmons and have a potential dynasty.
Sup jabby

[zeerghit]

Our lakers are going to sign KD and draft Simmons and have a potential dynasty.

3rd time in two days :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[raprap]

Our lakers are going to sign KD and draft Simmons and have a potential dynasty.
:lebronamazed:

[G-Funk]

Our lakers are going to sign KD and draft Simmons and have a potential dynasty.
:roll:

[G-Funk]

http://marylandsportsinsider.com/wordpress1/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/brandon-ingram-0288-l.jpg

Ingram is the safer pick.
Lakers win either way.

[swagga]

:oldlol:

It seems like this has heen happening a lot lately. I'm starting to think this board is made up of like 10 people.

95% of the traffic on this board is created by simon& jabbar and their 9473234 alts and 3ball. You IP ban any of these no life fagggots and we might just get a basketball discussion going once in a while.


And Ben Simmons' jumper is beyond broken, he'll have a tough time scoring in the NBA imo which will severly limit his potential. But he will fill up the stat sheet and will play some D so he won't be a bad pick. and lol people saying lebron had a comparable jumper, these people need to watch some tape.

[aj1987]

Our lakers are going to sign KD and draft Simmons and have a potential dynasty.
:facepalm :facepalm

What an idiot. :oldlol:

[pastis]

warriorfan cant make it through the day without any epicfail.

[Lebronxrings]

Our lakers are going to sign KD and draft Simmons and have a potential dynasty.
you massive pile of shit.
:roll:

[KnittingRyu]

Our lakers are going to sign KD and draft Simmons and have a potential dynasty.
:facepalm

[Human Error]

Laker fans think they are happy whenever Kobe leads them to lose because that will get them Ben Simmons. But isn't it ironic that they all hate Lebron with passion, and Ben Simmons' best case scenario is a poor woman's Lebron.

[JohnFreeman]

Our lakers are going to sign KD and draft Simmons and have a potential dynasty.
good gracious

[CelticBaller]

Our lakers are going to sign KD and draft Simmons and have a potential dynasty.
Took screenshots already, made sure he ain't getting away with this :oldlol:

[Sarcastic]

Simmons is yet another example of why the one year rule is dumb.

Why is that?

[Gotterdammerung]

Our lakers are going to sign KD and draft Simmons and have a potential dynasty.
:biggums:
:coleman:
:kobe:
:durantunimpressed:

[ImKobe]

Lakers win either way.

Ingram is the safer pick because he has a great jump shot

Simmons looks disinterested and doesn't shoot the ball nearly as much as he should considering how garbage LSU is. They just lost to Arkansas by 20 points and Ben only took 9 shots with 18 fta..he should be out there gunning to get the team back in it but his game is always the same, doesn't matter if his team is winning or not.
Basically he plays a 2011 Lebron James type of a game...just passive as hell and looks to protect his efficiency. Like what the hell is the coaching staff thinking...you have the best player in college shooting 12 times a game on 56%, he should be out there gunning. Which is a big problem in my eyes because the kid will come to the league with a weak ass jumper.

[ShawkFactory]

Anyone else going to acknowledge that OP said Tenn.?

[G.U.S.]

Our lakers are going to sign KD and draft Simmons and have a potential dynasty.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[ImKobe]

Anyone else going to acknowledge that OP said Tenn.?

OP is an idiot, let him be misinformed. Everyone else knows where he actually plays :oldlol:

[Fallen Angel]

Ingram is 6'8 to 6'9" and 196 lbs.

196 lbs. playing the SF position. His body looks too thin to add major bulk, so unless he turns into a supreme scorer like Kevin Durant then he could end up a bust.

Where as Simmons has a NBA body. His jumper can limit his potential, but even without it he's a 6'10" Point Forward that can rebound with the best of them and he's a team-first player.

He doesn't play outside his limitations as a scorer so you're bound to get efficient production from him, that sounds like a negative but it separates players like Josh Smith from other elite players of his size and skillset.

[G.U.S.]

Took screenshots already, made sure he ain't getting away with this :oldlol:
http://i64.tinypic.com/24pysz9.png

[r0drig0lac]

ideal choice for LAL

[STATUTORY]

to be honest he's just a light skinned Julius Randle

[Hey Yo]

Anyone else going to acknowledge that OP said Tenn.?
corrected.....thanks for pointing that out.

[Hey Yo]

OP is an idiot, let him be misinformed. Everyone else knows where he actually plays :oldlol:
Says the guy who compared Simmons' game to LeBron's

[SwishSquared]

Simmons went to the wrong school for the wrong reasons and it's blowing up in his face. He and his teammates look checked out. And it's not going to get better now that their 2nd best scorer and leading perimeter shooter is injured for maybe the rest of the season.

If Simmons went to a school with a stronger coach and a better supporting cast, he'd look a lot better. Kid just wants the draft process to start and for that, I can't be too harsh on him. He's only in college just to jump to the NBA. But he can't look as lackadaisical on both sides as he was last game. That type of stuff hurts your draft stock.

[ImKobe]

Says the guy who compared Simmons' game to LeBron's

how is it not

he's a guy that's bigger and more athletic than the guys going up against him, he is the playmaker and an efficient scorer who gets his points at the rim, not a great jump/ft shooter. Heck of a ballhandler and great passing ability, can rebound like a big man

exactly what Lebron was coming into the NBA :confusedshrug:

[ImKobe]

to be honest he's just a light skinned Julius Randle

nothing like Randle lol, Randle is a tank and runs the break like Simmons but his handle is much worse and he plays with his head down when rushing to the rim. Both can rebound and go full court with the ball but Randle has limited court vision.

Simmons is polished and more athletic.

[KungFuJoe]

Good handles and really good vision.

But it just seems like a lot his game won't translate to the pros. I kinda said the same thing about Griffin but his athletic ability is off the charts and he developed a somewhat decent jumper. Griffin is still a choker though who has no go to move.

Simmons will be good. Not great.

Slightly poor man's Odom.

[Fallen Angel]

Good handles and really good vision.

But it just seems like a lot his game won't translate to the pros. I kinda said the same thing about Griffin but his athletic ability is off the charts and he developed a somewhat decent jumper. Griffin is still a choker though who has no go to move.

Simmons will be good. Not great.

Slightly poor man's Odom.
This post makes no sense.

You're applying that Griffin isn't an elite player even though he averaged 24/13/7 against the Spurs last postseason. Throughout the 2015 Playoffs he averaged 25/12/6. Griffin did all that without a "go-to move".

[KungFuJoe]

This post makes no sense.

You're applying that Griffin isn't an elite player even though he averaged 24/13/7 against the Spurs last postseason. Throughout the 2015 Playoffs he averaged 25/12/6. Griffin did all that without a "go-to move".

I acknowledged that Griffin is an exceptional athlete who has a decent outside shot for three quarters.

[Mr. Jabbar]

warriorfan and I run things here. EVERYTHING is about us :lol

simon has irreversible mental wounds from the continuous slays lmaao

I LOVE IT!

[Hey Yo]

how is it not

he's a guy that's bigger and more athletic than the guys going up against him, he is the playmaker and an efficient scorer who gets his points at the rim, not a great jump/ft shooter. Heck of a ballhandler and great passing ability, can rebound like a big man

exactly what Lebron was coming into the NBA :confusedshrug:
You didn't mention any of the above when you made the comparison earlier.

Besides I highly doubt Simmons will come close to doing what LeBron did his first year...especially if he can't even do it now in college.

[Rocketswin2013]

Our lakers are going to sign KD and draft Simmons and have a potential dynasty.
so montaellis/tommygriffin and a laker fan alt?

pathetic :oldlol:

[Fallen Angel]

Simmons went to the wrong school for the wrong reasons and it's blowing up in his face. He and his teammates look checked out. And it's not going to get better now that their 2nd best scorer and leading perimeter shooter is injured for maybe the rest of the season.

If Simmons went to a school with a stronger coach and a better supporting cast, he'd look a lot better. Kid just wants the draft process to start and for that, I can't be too harsh on him. He's only in college just to jump to the NBA. But he can't look as lackadaisical on both sides as he was last game. That type of stuff hurts your draft stock.
1. Simmons went to LSU because the assistant coach is his godfather.

2. If Simmons went to somewhere like Duke or Kentucky his stats would be nerfed as the ball wouldn't fall in his hands as often as it does at LSU. His lack of a jumpshot would be even more apparent since he'd have to score off-ball much more often.

3. This is a weak draft with only two players with true superstar potential. The farthest he would fall is #2. I don't think anything can happen this season outside an injury that could majorly shake up the battle between Simmons vs. Ingram. Whoever has better the better draft workout for the team with the #1 pick will get drafted first.

[KungFuJoe]

I can see how some might compare Simmons to Lebron but their actual games are very different. Lebron actually had an outside shot. Wasn't great and his mechanics were funky but it was there. When was the last time Simmons shot beyond 6 feet that wasn't from the free throw line? Lebron was a monster in the open court dishing running and especially finishing. Simmons looks decent running the break as a big man but he seems more methodical and less creative. He sees the open man but he doesn't CREATE the open man.

[Fallen Angel]

I acknowledged that Griffin is an exceptional athlete who has a decent outside shot for three quarters.
You are seriously underrating Griffin. Either you're trolling or just didn't watch him throughout the playoffs. Griffin is more than birdfed dunks and midrange jumpshots, he's an elite passer for his possession and has a faceup game that's very successful against players too big or too small to guard him.

[KungFuJoe]

You are seriously underrating Griffin. Either you're trolling or just didn't watch him throughout the playoffs. Griffin is more than birdfed dunks and midrange jumpshots, he's an elite passer for his possession and has a faceup game that's very successful against players too big or too small to guard him.

Not a Griffin fan. Watched him his whole career including the Rockets series where he choked big time in that pivotal game. He wanted nothing to do with the ball.

He's a fourth quarter choker and even if he did play well against the Spurs in that series, it doesn't change the fact that he tends to fade in crunch time. He has a bully mentality. And I was saying that before this whole punching incident occurred.

To me, he's like a Harden. Not in terms of playing style. But that he's considered and elite talent but has flaws in his game (in Griffin's case it's lack of heart) that will prevent them from winning a championship as a number #1 guy...or in Blake's case...#2.

[Fallen Angel]

Simmons is one of those players that needs to be drafted by the right team or his chances of being a bust would skyrocket upward. He's not a go-to player, yet. If teams expect Simmons to be their leader immediately then he's doomed to disappoint. Teams like Philly and Los Angeles would give him the ball and tell everyone else to get out the way. Put him on a team with a defined offense that can play to Simmons' strengths like Boston or Toronto and he'd be an amazing player.

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

Our lakers are going to sign KD and draft Simmons and have a potential dynasty.

:lol :lol :lol

[FireDavidKahn]

The guy shoots 33% from just outside the rim. His shot is worse than Rubio's.

A worse shooting Lamar Odom seems like an apt comp. And for those who scoff at that...Odom was a great prospect.

[senelcoolidge]

Yeah, he has a lot to work on. He's not a polished player.

[SwishSquared]

1. Simmons went to LSU because the assistant coach is his godfather.

2. If Simmons went to somewhere like Duke or Kentucky his stats would be nerfed as the ball wouldn't fall in his hands as often as it does at LSU. His lack of a jumpshot would be even more apparent since he'd have to score off-ball much more often.

3. This is a weak draft with only two players with true superstar potential. The farthest he would fall is #2. I don't think anything can happen this season outside an injury that could majorly shake up the battle between Simmons vs. Ingram. Whoever has better the better draft workout for the team with the #1 pick will get drafted first.I said he went to the school for the wrong reasons. They hired his godfather before he enrolled. It was a ploy to get him to commit. I get why he went to LSU, but he would have been better off elsewhere. I'm not sure how this is debatable...

Let's say he went to Duke, since you brought it up. You don't think he'd handle the ball a good amount when he can drive at near-will and kick out to Allen/Kennard/Ingram on the perimeter down the stretch? Those are 3 guys who can shoot 40% from downtown as spot up shooters. Not to mention Allen and Ingram are very willing shot takers, and not only when they initiate the action themselves. He'd fit in a lot better. Not to mention he could close out games @ C if they wanted to play really small (considering Jefferson's injury)- he'd do a heck of a lot better in that role than Jabari did a couple years ago.

Going to Kentucky would have been a different story, but he'd be sharing the floor with Ulis, who is one of the 5 smartest players in college right now and an excellent leader. Murray is elite at C&S and has a really quick trigger. He'd kick it out to him in a very effective manner.

In either situation, he'd have a better coaching staff and better talent surrounding him, particularly those that can complement him. He'd hold the ball less but UK ran a platoon last year and had 4 guys get taken in the lotto, even with artificially deflated stats.

And him sliding to #2 in the draft means he'd earn less. That's what I meant. It's also a lot more fun to be a consensus #1 pick in a winning situation with less criticism than what he's going through now. People are questioning his will and desire because his situation is so bad that he checked out, for now.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Says the guy who compared Simmons' game to LeBron's


Almost all the scouting reports on Simmons have compared him to Lebron, what's the problem?

[Bosnian Sajo]

The guy shoots 33% from just outside the rim. His shot is worse than Rubio's.

A worse shooting Lamar Odom seems like an apt comp. And for those who scoff at that...Odom was a great prospect.


And a great player, we would never have made the finals 3 years in a row without him.

[warriorfan]

warriorfan and I run things here. EVERYTHING is about us :lol

simon has irreversible mental wounds from the continuous slays lmaao

I LOVE IT!

we win

:lol

[Sportal]

Our lakers are going to sign KD and draft Simmons and have a potential dynasty.

Lmfao.

[Lebron23]

He's the Anti Ingram. Ingram is shooting 41% from the 3 points territory, and 45% in the ACC.

[DoctorP]

bill simmons > ben simmons

[Lebron23]

The question is can he bully those bigger, more athletic, and more experienced big men in the NBA without having a consistent jump shots.

[FreezingTsmoove]

He just doesnt have a good supporting cast at all

Last years LSU team had two lottery picks taken and the team had a slightly better record than this years LSU team

Look at the roster. Barely any seniors except Hornsby who is now done for the season

And im not sure what you want more from Simmons. Hes averaging 21/12 on 56%. Cant even play defense because if he gets in foul trouble its basically a guaranteed loss for LSU. He needs to be on the floor at all times for them to even have a chance

And stop acting like its so easy to lead a team to victory. This is ****ing division 1 basketball.

Look at Simmons Junior year tape compared to his body now. This boy has an insane work ethic when it comes to getting stronger and bigger. Imagine him in a couple years when hes a full grown man. That being said how can you say hes going to be a bust, or hes risky for the NBA when hes dominating his competition as a freshman and hes not even in his MAN body yet

Absolute disgusting replies in this thread.

Stick to the NBA

[Cocaine80s]

He just doesnt have a good supporting cast at all

Last years LSU team had two lottery picks taken and the team had a slightly better record than this years LSU team

Look at the roster. Barely any seniors except Hornsby who is now done for the season

And im not sure what you want more from Simmons. Hes averaging 21/12 on 56%. Cant even play defense because if he gets in foul trouble its basically a guaranteed loss for LSU. He needs to be on the floor at all times for them to even have a chance

And stop acting like its so easy to lead a team to victory. This is ****ing division 1 basketball.

Look at Simmons Junior year tape compared to his body now. This boy has an insane work ethic when it comes to getting stronger and bigger. Imagine him in a couple years when hes a full grown man. That being said how can you say hes going to be a bust, or hes risky for the NBA when hes dominating his competition as a freshman and hes not even in his MAN body yet

Absolute disgusting replies in this thread.

Stick to the NBA
Because he can't shoot for shit

[FireDavidKahn]

Because he can't shoot for shit
Worse than Rubio:oldlol:

He has some insane potential and worth at the minimum the 2nd overall pick, but....33% from just OUTSIDE THE RIM. Come on man:facepalm

[GrapeApe]

He just doesnt have a good supporting cast at all

Last years LSU team had two lottery picks taken and the team had a slightly better record than this years LSU team

Look at the roster. Barely any seniors except Hornsby who is now done for the season

And im not sure what you want more from Simmons. Hes averaging 21/12 on 56%. Cant even play defense because if he gets in foul trouble its basically a guaranteed loss for LSU. He needs to be on the floor at all times for them to even have a chance

And stop acting like its so easy to lead a team to victory. This is ****ing division 1 basketball.

Look at Simmons Junior year tape compared to his body now. This boy has an insane work ethic when it comes to getting stronger and bigger. Imagine him in a couple years when hes a full grown man. That being said how can you say hes going to be a bust, or hes risky for the NBA when hes dominating his competition as a freshman and hes not even in his MAN body yet

Absolute disgusting replies in this thread.

Stick to the NBA

Michael Beasley averaged 26/12 on 54% as a freshman. It seems like some people are getting a Beasley type vibe from Simmons. I'm not saying I'm one of them, but I've heard that comparison made.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Michael Beasley averaged 26/12 on 54% as a freshman. It seems like some people are getting a Beasley type vibe from Simmons. I'm not saying I'm one of them, but I've heard that comparison made.

There was never a TALENT problem with Beasley. He is extremely talented

Getting drafted to Miami was the worst thing that could have happened to him

There is no problem with Simmons love for the game. He has been skipping class lately to work on his game.

[Cocaine80s]

Worse than Rubio:oldlol:

He has some insane potential and worth at the minimum the 2nd overall pick, but....33% from just OUTSIDE THE RIM. Come on man:facepalm
Agreed but he'll still have a better career than Towns

[FreezingTsmoove]

Because he can't shoot for shit

So whats the problem? Hes a Power Forward and its not like hes shooting sub 50% from the free throw line...

He is obviously going to get better

He works too much on getting stronger he isnt going to be a great shooter

[Cocaine80s]

Simmons will bust like Exum did


Whoever passes on Ingram will be the laughing stock of the league

[FreezingTsmoove]

Whats the big deal with Shooting the ball anyways? Have the Warriors changed to NBA fans so much where everyone needs to be a great shooter to be worth a shit?

Simmons can playmake, run the break, handle the ball, handle the ball in transition, elite athleticism, going to be one of the strongest players physically when hes a man, 6'10,

But we are going to criticize him for not being a good shooter?

Hes a damm freshman 6'10 power forward and yall are getting on him for not being a good shooter? :facepalm

And he is a pretty good free throw shooter look at his free throw percentage

[Cocaine80s]

Whats the big deal with Shooting the ball anyways?
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[FireDavidKahn]

Whats the big deal with Shooting the ball anyways? Have the Warriors changed to NBA fans so much where everyone needs to be a great shooter to be worth a shit?

Simmons can playmake, run the break, handle the ball, handle the ball in transition, elite athleticism, going to be one of the strongest players physically when hes a man, 6'10,

But we are going to criticize him for not being a good shooter?

Hes a damm freshman 6'10 power forward and yall are getting on him for not being a good shooter? :facepalm

And he is a pretty good free throw shooter look at his free throw percentage
It severely limits what the offense can do. IE, clogging the lane.

It's akin to the Okafor/Noel duo. Statistically the worse 2 man combo's on Philly all include Okafor. Noel's effectiveness also drops significantly with Okafor on the court since he has to play further away from the hoop. Not saying Philly should choose Noel over Okafor at all, but it's just an illustration.

Where you fail is that you think since the Warriors are the best 3 point shooting team ever means that everyone is obsessed with shooting now. They are to a degree, but criticizing a prospect because he can't shoot AT ALL is a legit concern. 33% outside the rim. If you can't see the problem with that than there is no point in continuing this.:oldlol:

[Hey Yo]

Whats the big deal with Shooting the ball anyways? Have the Warriors changed to NBA fans so much where everyone needs to be a great shooter to be worth a shit?

Simmons can playmake, run the break, handle the ball, handle the ball in transition, elite athleticism, going to be one of the strongest players physically when hes a man, 6'10,

But we are going to criticize him for not being a good shooter?

Hes a damm freshman 6'10 power forward and yall are getting on him for not being a good shooter? :facepalm

And he is a pretty good free throw shooter look at his free throw percentage
Where's the reference to scoring?

If I have the first pick and thinking about drafting ______... then first and foremost, you gotta be able to score.

The reason my team sucks is because we can't score.

[FreezingTsmoove]

It severely limits what the offense can do. IE, clogging the lane.

It's akin to the Okafor/Noel duo. Statistically the worse 2 man combo's on Philly all include Okafor. Noel's effectiveness also drops significantly with Okafor on the court since he has to play further away from the hoop. Not saying Philly should choose Noel over Okafor at all, but it's just an illustration.

Where you fail is that you think since the Warriors are the best 3 point shooting team ever means that everyone is obsessed with shooting now. They are to a degree, but criticizing a prospect because he can't shoot AT ALL is a legit concern. 33% outside the rim. If you can't see the problem with that than there is no point in continuing this.:oldlol:


Ok man whatever you say

All Power Forwards should be knock down shooters

If they cant shoot then **** them. They dont even belong on the damn court

[FreezingTsmoove]

Where's the reference to scoring?

If I have the first pick and thinking about drafting ______... then first and foremost, you gotta be able to score.

The reason my team sucks is because we can't score.

Well all those skills lead to scoring baskets...

[Hey Yo]

Except that the first pick is the one expected to be doing the scoring

[FireDavidKahn]

Ok man whatever you say

All Power Forwards should be knock down shooters

If they cant shoot then **** them. They dont even belong on the damn court
Swing and a miss.:facepalm

[FreezingTsmoove]

None of you southern hicks even watch LSU games anyway because if you did none of you would be saying all this retard level shit about Simmons

Will bump in October

This one is going down for the books

[Cocaine80s]

None of you southern hicks even watch LSU games anyway because if you did none of you would be saying all this retard level shit about Simmons

Will bump in October

This one is going down for the books
This little australian is mad

[warriorfan]

None of you southern hicks even watch LSU games anyway because if you did none of you would be saying all this retard level shit about Simmons

Will bump in October

This one is going down for the books

Post gets the warriorfan Alpha seal of approval

[G.U.S.]

Poor mans Lamar Odom, hope he goes to the Lakers so we can continue pissing on them all next season also :applause:

[Hey Yo]

"Below is a chart of collegiate players from 2001 through last season, tracking how far their teams went in the postseason during their final NCAA season. Among top-five prospects in that span

[GOBB]

The guy shoots 33% from just outside the rim. His shot is worse than Rubio's.

A worse shooting Lamar Odom seems like an apt comp. And for those who scoff at that...Odom was a great prospect.

Small sample size. His lack of outside game is concerning no doubt. I dont know if I can say his shot is bad because he simply refuses to give anyone an idea to really make a sound claim.

[GOBB]

He just doesnt have a good supporting cast at all

Last years LSU team had two lottery picks taken and the team had a slightly better record than this years LSU team

Look at the roster. Barely any seniors except Hornsby who is now done for the season

And im not sure what you want more from Simmons. Hes averaging 21/12 on 56%. Cant even play defense because if he gets in foul trouble its basically a guaranteed loss for LSU. He needs to be on the floor at all times for them to even have a chance

And stop acting like its so easy to lead a team to victory. This is ****ing division 1 basketball.

Look at Simmons Junior year tape compared to his body now. This boy has an insane work ethic when it comes to getting stronger and bigger. Imagine him in a couple years when hes a full grown man. That being said how can you say hes going to be a bust, or hes risky for the NBA when hes dominating his competition as a freshman and hes not even in his MAN body yet

Absolute disgusting replies in this thread.

Stick to the NBA

Valid complaint about his teammates but you can not give Ben passes for being incredibly passive in that situation. He's an elite talent by far and defers to lesser guys. He has an Iguodala mentality where he rather be one of the guys than be the guy who just happens to be a great facilitator. He should be taking over games and he rather let his teammates you knock do so. So i say it goes both ways just not one that you mentioned.

Granted Bron got similar knocks but I never felt he was as passive as I've seen Ben Simmons. Sometimes you need to be selfish when the situation calls for it.