Report: 76ers prepared to offer Dennis Schr

[Lebron23]

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[quote]Dennis Schr

[Lebron23]

Good move by the Sixers. Dennis is a very good player. And He should be a starting point guard in the NBA.

[JohnFreeman]

Everyone getting paid

[Lebron23]

Everyone getting paid


This

The NBA is a guard's league.

[KobesFinger]

So they've been tanking for four years to give Schroder the max?

[r0drig0lac]

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[Haymaker]

So they've been tanking for four years to give Schroder the max?

This :facepalm

[KnittingRyu]

So they've been tanking for four years to give Schroder the max?
:lol

[Im Still Ballin]

Atleast they're doing something

Will make the situation at the Hawks interesting

[SwishSquared]

This :facepalmI think was to put a bug in ATL's ear that they will go after him hard if he hits RFA. He's extension eligible this summer, so I wouldn't be surprised if the Hawks decide to move one of Schroder or Teague around the time of the draft.

If I'm the Hawks, I'd move Teague and roll with Dennis. He's been really bad at finishing this year, has a non-ideal AST:TO ratio, and his 3p% is below average, especially for a starting PG, but he generates a ton of assists, has a good mid range game, and is a great slasher due to elite quickness. Shoots 80% or so from the line, so maybe he can up his shooting from downtown.

The point of tanking isn't just to land a PG like Dennis- the reason has been to be in a position to try to draft guys like Wiggins, Towns, and Simmons/Ingram. They actually might get one of the top two picks this year. They can't draft a superstar at every position- Dennis can be a solid PG on a good team if he develops more.

Also should note that if they swapped Ish/Stauskas/Sampson for Schroder that they may have been better the rest of the year, messing up the tank. If they can get him on draft night, that's a good start.

[Fallen Angel]

This is probably just surprising being it's Philly openly wanting to sign a free agent.

Other teams will offer Dennis near max money.

[theaussieguy]

Rondo must of turned down their max offer now they are after his replica.

[Nash]

Max, as in the new CBA max? Damn, the league will go to hell when guys like Shroder get 125m deals.

[Done_And_Done]

Ludicrous.

I'm a fan of Schroders and like many, assumed it was simply just a matter of time before he superseded Teague as Atlanta's starting point guard but throwing the max at this kid is just overboard.

Is he even a top 15 pg? top 20?

[outbreak]

I thought players coming off rookie deals can only be signed for a smaller max

[hateraid]

Give back the Thunder's pick, Okafor, and Stauskus and bring Durant for the max!

[AirBonner]

Sixers :lol I feel bad for those fans being dragged thru the mud by that front office year after year

[Bankaii]

Seriously about to stop supporting this team:facepalm

What's the point in trying to build through the draft of you continue to trade your picks for more future picks and throw all your money at role players that will have no impact whatsoever.

[RedBlackAttack]

That is totally insane and it would set a terrible precedent for front offices around the league. In the new CBA, a max contract may be around $25 million annually. Schroder is a fine piece to compliment a team with, but he isn't a guy you build around. The new max should be reserved for franchise players.

I don't believe this report, fwiw. The Sixers are smarter than that.

[pastis]

at best, schroeder is worth 8 million a year. its ridiculous. this dude cant shoot consistently over 42%
he is not a franchise player, probably not even a solid starter PG.

but if j johnson somehow was getting paid the max, schr

[SwishSquared]

That is totally insane and it would set a terrible precedent for front offices around the league. In the new CBA, a max contract may be around $25 million annually. Schroder is a fine piece to compliment a team with, but he isn't a guy you build around. The new max should be reserved for franchise players.

I don't believe this report, fwiw. The Sixers are smarter than that.I think they're messing with Atlanta to try to trade him before he signs an extension. I mean the report listed that the Hawks were scared about re-signing Ish this summer given that he's a FA. I think this is a deal that could get done on draft night, depending on where the OKC and MIA picks land. I also think Philly insisted on sending the OKC pick, when the Hawks probably wanted the MIA first.

Both FOs know Dennis isn't worth 25% of the cap, but ATL may sell early on him if they feel they can develop another guy for cheaper if teams are leaking that they'll max him.

[SwishSquared]

[QUOTE=pastis]at best, schroeder is worth 8 million a year. its ridiculous. this dude cant shoot consistently over 42%
he is not a franchise player, probably not even a solid starter PG.

but if j johnson somehow was getting paid the max, schr

[pastis]

He's worth more than 8% of the cap in his RFA year. He's like top 5 in assists per 48 and he is shooting 46% on long jumpers this year. He's a below average 3 point shooter and a terrible finisher. He's AST:TO ratio isn't ideal. He's somebody who should easily get 15% of the cap in 2017-2018 imo. But he should get like 20% or so, unless a team loses its mind and maxes him.

he is mostly playing against the opponents reserve. i wanna see a full season as a starter against real top pg before throwing in more than 7-8 mio a year
imo he is the ideal backup pg for a contender

[SwishSquared]

he is mostly playing against the opponents reserve. i wanna see a full season as a starter against real top pg before throwing in more than 7-8 mio a year
imo he is the ideal backup pg for a contenderI think he ultimately can be more than a backup on a contender but that's a fair point. He does play a lot of mins against bench units. I'd rather extend him for maybe an overpay this summer than wait for somebody to max him potentially in 2017, if that makes sense.

[Thorpesaurous]

I like Schroder, not in small part because I loved him coming into the draft, and still have some confirmation bias towards him I'm sure. He can push pace on both sides of the floor and create for others. But the shooting is legit problem. And the Sixers really in my opinion be hard pressed to run with a PG with shooting issues, because they are just too built around size to go with so little shooting.

I've thought about Marcus Smart deals built around one of the Sixer's bigs just because I'd like one of them (I'm not even sure which one I like best at this point), and it feels like moving one of their bigs for a young PG is a good idea, but Smart has shooting issues of his own (which is part of why I'm not crazy about him).

[bdreason]

A max for Schroder isn't the same as a max for a veteran player. He isn't gonna get $25-30m per, calm down ISH.

[SwishSquared]

A max for Schroder isn't the same as a max for a veteran player. He isn't gonna get $25-30m per, calm down ISH.If he signs a max extension this summer or gets maxed out as a RFA in summer 2017, his first year salary will be 25% of the cap for that year. It's projected at roughly $100M for '17-'18, so he would make $25M+ a year on a max deal, especially factoring in annual raises (if they apply).

[Done_And_Done]

If he signs a max extension this summer or gets maxed out as a RFA in summer 2017, his first year salary will be 25% of the cap for that year. It's projected at roughly $100M for '17-'18, so he would make $25M+ a year on a max deal, especially factoring in annual raises (if they apply).

That's so gross

[bdreason]

If he signs a max extension this summer or gets maxed out as a RFA in summer 2017, his first year salary will be 25% of the cap for that year. It's projected at roughly $100M for '17-'18, so he would make $25M+ a year on a max deal, especially factoring in annual raises (if they apply).


His max this off-season is around $16M.

Any speculation about contracts in 2017 are just that, pure speculation.

[SexSymbol]

So they've been tanking for four years to give Schroder the max?
funniest post in the past week

[4 Inches]

Black man making more money :applause:

[SwishSquared]

His max this off-season is around $16M.

Any speculation about contracts in 2017 are just that, pure speculation.That's wrong because he's under contract for 2016-2017. He's a 2013 draftee, meaning he's extension eligible this summer. He can sign an extension up to his max, which is 25% of the '17-'18 cap (projections are this will be around $100M). A max extension signed this summer doesn't kick in until the 2017-2018 season.

Or if he doesn't sign an extension by the deadline in October 2016, he will be a restricted free agent in summer 2017.

~$16.63M was the 1st year salary for a 25% max back in 2014-2015. It was approximately $15.63 in 2013-2014.

You're right- we don't know the number for the 2017-2018 cap, which will drive the exact figure for the 1st year salary. It's dependent in part upon what teams spend during the '16-'17 season. That's why some are speculating that the cap this summer will jump up to $92M since teams "underspent."

[Sportal]

Does "max" mean money, or years...?

If it's money, I don't believe he is in that tier yet. He could turn into a very good player with starter minutes.

[raprap]

Holy shit philly :roll: