Has there ever been an more protected team than the Warriors?

[kurple]

Did you guys see the moving screen by Green on Curry's last 3?

This shit happens on the regular. And I don't get why


Link will come when I'm on a computer

[sportjames23]

This thread is gonna be fun. :oldlol:

*pulls up a chair*

[raprap]

Moving screens are prevalent in the league, its just more obvious with the warriors because they score a lot because of it. I don't necessarily Like it, but until the league fixes the rule i say go drop bombs splash bros.

[navy]

Yeah, honestly the Warriors do it on nearly every play and it's tough on the refs. I don't think it's protection, just human nature. But if the NBA wanted to stop the Warriors dominance that would be an easy step

[kurple]

But that isnt true raprap

[aj1987]

Did you really have to start this thread today? Now we'll have like 289364298 Warrior "fans" in here hating on the Heat.

[kurple]

https://mobile.twitter.com/gifdsports/status/702690732147130368

The play i was referring too

[RRR3]

**** those moving screens

[toxicxr6]

Wasn't just an illegal screen.. Green just grabbed him as well.. Nothing about that screen was legal at all and pretty much broke virtually every rule when it comes to setting legal screens.

This is the most frustrating thing about the NBA. There are a lot of rules.. And most the time they aren't enforced.. It's frustrating. They should just enforce all the rules. The league in the long run would be far better..

[swagga]

Did you guys see the moving screen by Green on Curry's last 3?

This shit happens on the regular. And I don't get why


Link will come when I'm on a computer

been saying this for more than a year on this site... you take away the crazy illegal screens and GSW goes from a GOAT team to a 55-60 win team, with curry's % coming down in a hurry.

Just imagine ray allen or reggie miller constantly benefiting from such screens...

[hold this L]

If they were that protected, Steph would be averaging 15-20 FT per game. They did get away with a really blatant screen last game though.

[kurple]

If they were that protected, Steph would be averaging 15-20 FT per game. They did get away with a really blatant screen last game though.
Steph ain't no Kevin Martin. Drawing fouls isn't his strong suit

[JohnFreeman]

Sure, but I don't think you can single out the Warriors.

Every year the best teams get the officiating leniency, and the best players do as well.

Officiating in the NBA is horrible as a whole, and has been for quite some time.

[Lebron23]

NBA team needs to write a letter to Commissioner Silver. But I love to see an NBA All Star bring up the issue to the Media.

[Stout]

We see this every year from a top team :facepalm

[sd3035]

Cavs the last two years, The Heat previously

[Alan Ogg]

https://mobile.twitter.com/gifdsports/status/702690732147130368

The play i was referring too

I hear you guys about people getting away with it, but that one was OBVIOUS mugging and at a crucial part of the game for Miami. Miami could have won this.

[G0ATbe]

:kobe: We gonna act like that 3 wasn't going in regardless?

[aj1987]

:kobe: We gonna act like that 3 wasn't going in regardless?
You do know that 3 wouldn't have counted if they called the illegal screen, right?

[Stout]

Cavs the last two years, The Heat previously
The Lakers before that.

[dunksby]

Is that football or basketball? :lol

[G0ATbe]

Now that I look at it the screen didnt even look illegal. Deng wrapped his arms around green and started pulling him out of the play for some reason. Just horrible defense by him.

[Stout]

Let's not forget that this complaint was pushed forward after a game in which Wade was receiving phantom calls ala 2006 Finals.

[aj1987]

Let's not forget that this complaint was pushed forward after a game in which Wade was receiving phantom calls ala 2006 Finals.
Can you point out those phantom calls?

[kurple]

We see this every year from a top team :facepalm
Not really

Heat never got away with this. And bogut has been doing it since he was traded from the bucks

[Stout]

Can you point out those phantom calls?
I don't have access to the game, nor did I mentally note the time of the game in which they came. There was a couple plays in a short amount of time in the 4th though in which one foul was with such limited contact and the other I couldn't see the foul at all, even on the replay.

[Stout]

Not really

Heat never got away with this. And bogut has been doing it since he was traded from the bucks
Instead, LeBron was protected on fouls and given fouls for his flops. It may not have been moving screens, but every top team has there thing that they get away with. I don't think the Celtics got away with too much, however, KG did illegal screens all the time.

[sd3035]

Lebald travels on half of his drives, pushes off on 90% of them.

LeProtected

[aj1987]

I don't have access to the game, nor did I mentally note the time of the game in which they came. There was a couple plays in a short amount of time in the 4th though in which one foul was with such limited contact and the other I couldn't see the foul at all, even on the replay.
Then you probably shouldn't be bringing them up, if you can't back it up. If you can I'll gladly take the L here.

Also, I was more taking about the "phantom" calls from the '06 Finals.

[plowking]

This gets brought up about every top team at the time. I remember people bitching when Boston won their title. And the Lakers theirs.

No one cares. Every team does it.

And of course, the best team is protected. The refs are helping them. It's all rigged. :rolleyes:
Srs? Get real.

[Stout]

Then you probably shouldn't be bringing them up, if you can't back it up. If you can I'll gladly take the L here.

Also, I was more taking about the "phantom" calls from the '06 Finals.
Why is my claim the only one asked for video evidence in this thread? First, lets see all the video evidence from the OP, because apparently if there isn't direct evidence used in this thread, it didn't happen.

[kurple]

I care

[Gileraracer]

No one in the league is more protected than MR stiffarm travel James

[kurple]

Traveling is something every team in the league does


Moving screens like this? No

[Stout]

Traveling is something every team in the league does


Moving screens like this? No
Warriors invented moving screens? No player before this has ever consistently used them and got away with it? Come on, get real.

[hold this L]

Steph ain't no Kevin Martin. Drawing fouls isn't his strong suit
He's getting grabbed, pushed and pulled on a regular basis every single game. Just because he doesn't flop all the time or complain like Green, he doesn't get those calls. I'm fine with the way he gets reffed because if they were on point, he would be even less guardable than he is now. These things generally get evened out. Some of you don't know how to take Ls. And you can't pick and choose like you're in a grocery store what's accepted with what refs allow and don't.

"travels are ok because everyone does it, but those screens. No no, we can't have those because it benefits the Warriors too much."

https://media.giphy.com/media/PrAMyghZaYjm/giphy.gif

[aj1987]

Why is my claim the only one asked for video evidence in this thread? First, lets see all the video evidence from the OP, because apparently if there isn't direct evidence used in this thread, it didn't happen.
https://mobile.twitter.com/gifdsports/status/702690732147130368

[sd3035]

Curry gets disrespected by the refs more than any superstar in the history of the league.

He's pushed, grabbed, hacked, handchecked, undercut, tackled, etc. almost every trip down the floor

[brain drain]

After the 06 finals, Miami and their fans have forfeited their right to complain about refs and calls for the next 225 years or so.

[Gileraracer]

After the 06 finals, Miami and their fans have forfeited their right to complain about refs and calls for the next 225 years or so.


That is ABSOLUTELY right. 17 FTA / game for Wade :lol

[aj1987]

After the 06 finals, Miami and their fans have forfeited their right to complain about refs and calls for the next 225 years or so.


That is ABSOLUTELY right. 17 FTA / game for Wade :lol


Run away, cockroaches.


Right here:

http://207.58.151.151/forum/showthread.php?t=126843

Interesting facts:

In this playoff run, Dirk Nowitzki sets a record for must FT's hit during the playoffs shooting 209-229. Wade on the other hand shoots 202-250 with both players playing 23 games in the playoffs that year. For a player who is more of a slasher, Wade only managed to get 21 more free throws? :rolleyes:

Furthermore, Wade shot 10 and 14 free throws in the first two games, so its not like he just got more free throws the next few games. He was already getting to the line a lot.

The total foul count in the series was 146 fouls committed by the Miami Heat and 160 fouls committed by the Mavericks. Fairly equal if anything.

Furthermore, it's amazing it was soo close considering the Heat have Shaq and Wade on their team. Wade is a driver who gets a lot of free throws anyway, and Shaq is a guy who teams love to send to the line. Also, the Mavericks were more of a jumpshooting team, with most of their driving coming from Harris and Howard.

Quick facts:
--Miami outrebounded the Mavs in 4 of the 6 games in the series.
--In the 4 games Miami won, they shot better in 3 of those matchups, with the only time they shot worse being by .8 of a %.
--Miami shot less threes then the Dallas team in 5 of the 6 games. The one time they shot more threes then the Dallas team, they lost.

Game 3:
Mavericks up 83-71 with 8:30 left. A lot of people claim that the refs took over here and helped guide Wade to victory.
Up to the 3rd quarter Wade had shot 15 free throws. In the 4th quarter, Wade shot only 3 free throws, and only 1 free throw within the 8:30 left. So the two other free throws he shot were before the 12 point lead the Mavs had.

Not to mention with the game score was 97-95 in favor of the Heat with 3 seconds to go and Dirk gets given 2 free throws. So the Mavs were given a chance to tie the game, and Dirk only hit 1 of 2 free throws to make the score 97-96 in favor of the Heat.

So in actual fact, Wade got no free throws in that 8:30, due to the free throws he recieved being out of desperation and the Mavs hacking to be able to get another shot off. So a total of 0 shooting fouls were called for Wade in the 4th.


Game 4:
98-74 win for the Heat. Mavs shot 31% and Wade had 9 free throws. Nothing to talk about really. Mavs completely outplayed.

Game 5:
This is the game where Wade goes onto shoot as many free throws as the entire Dallas team. 21-25 went Wade and 21-25 went Dallas. Game went into overtime as well.
Wade had 22 points going into the 4th quarter. Wade scored 17 in the 4th quarter with the last 6 points all coming from jumpers. Even the game tying shot was a jumper to level the game at 93-93 with 2 seconds left. No free throws needed. 7 of Wade's 17 points came from FT's. So he basically maintained his average foul shot per quarter rate in the 4th.

Then in the overtime, the score was 100-99 in favor of the Mavs with 2 seconds left and Wade was given 2 free throws. As many of you know, at the time there was great debate as to whether this was a foul or not. The play involved Harris and Nowitzki both hacking Wade and Nowitzki being called for the foul.

http://espn.go.com/photo/2006/0618/nba_g_wade_395.jpg

That was the play for those who have forgot. Many people say this wasn't a foul. Now take a look at what happened on this play:

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7888/foul8sx.gif
Harris' leg clearly fouling Wade.

Also:
Dirk giving Wade a huge shove, just look at the amount of contact.

http://i6.tinypic.com/14vo5n7.jpg

Not to mention Harris grabbed Wade's other hand on the way to the basket, but I don't have a picture. He didn't just slap it, but grabbed it and didn't allow Wade to have shooting motion. That is a foul even in late game situations. Two players hacking and getting a huge amount of contact. On his leg, one arm and pushing on his back. That has to get called even in the dying seconds.

EDIT: Picture found.

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1121/nba_g_wade_600.jpg

Harris' grabbing Wade's shooting arm, pretty much not allowing a shot to be attempted.

Game 6:

Heat win the championship with a 95-92 win. No controversy here

Wade had the best Finals performance in NBA History... Putting the team on his back in the Final 4 games (all wins) and scored over 35 pts per game in each one:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2008/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=FinalsPerformances-1

^ GREATEST Finals Performance EVER !!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6013055&postcount=19

[QUOTE=ImKobe]The opposing team couldn't stop Wade without fouling, so he exploited that and won his team the game? :oldlol:

They changed the rules to get the scoring back up after the 04 season, handchecking was made illegal. It's why guys like Kobe,Lebron and AI had huge gains in the PPG department in 05-06, they learned how to exploit the new rules that favored the offensive player.

Here's a good post

[QUOTE]From his Blog Maverick weblog, Mark Cuban's article 'If It

[f0und]

there is bending the rules.

then there is abusing of the bend of the rules.

golden state is doing the latter. kinda like james harden and his free throw flopping. alot of players create contact and exaggerate it to get the call, but when you make your living off it, its *ucking bulsh*t.

and some of that stuff GS was pulling last night was just plain breaking the rules, particularly that last screen on deng.

[zizozain]

an more

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[swagga]

Run away, cockroaches.



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6013055&postcount=19

you're talking to kobe's dick exiting the mouth of a sock account of mr jabbar. valiant but vain effort.

[34-24 Footwork]

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:



:lol :lol

[swagga]

there is bending the rules.

then there is abusing of the bend of the rules.

golden state is doing the latter. kinda like james harden and his free throw flopping. alot of players create contact and exaggerate it to get the call, but when you make your living off it, its *ucking bulsh*t.

and some of that stuff GS was pulling last night was just plain breaking the rules, particularly that last screen on deng.

the 73 script needs to be respected, to get that asian and casual market to WITNESS the greatest NBA ever. Next up, pets at games.

[34-24 Footwork]

you're talking to kobe's dick exiting the mouth of a sock account of mr jabbar. valiant but vain effort.

You Heat/Bron fans are the worst :lol

Lebron flopping: "No advantage gained"

Curry making 30 footers: "He's too open" :cry: :cry: :cry:

[aj1987]

You Heat/Bron fans are the worst :lol

Lebron flopping: "No advantage gained"

Curry making 30 footers: "He's too open" :cry: :cry: :cry:
Meltdown. :oldlol:

[BlazerRed]

Sure, but I don't think you can single out the Warriors.

Every year the best teams get the officiating leniency, and the best players do as well.

Officiating in the NBA is horrible as a whole, and has been for quite some time.
This.

[swagga]

You Heat/Bron fans are the worst :lol

Lebron flopping: "No advantage gained"

Curry making 30 footers: "He's too open" :cry: :cry: :cry:

lol I'm not even a lebron fan, y'all kobe fans are in a state of shock tbh, just lashing out at anything and anybody just to get your fix. seek help tbh.

[swagga]

This.

actually no.
officiating has been horrible/poor, but there is a difference in getting calls (like most contenders/stars) and flat out bending the rules for a single team (lakers-kings/blazers, gsw moving screens).

bogut and draymond are setting picks that would result in fights at any park. kg's and perkins' picks are nothing compared to this shit.

[tpols]

2013 heat come to mind.. they got away with a lot, especially on defense. Between Battier, Wade, and Bron, I dont even know how refs could call it though, a very slimy, slick bunch with their tactics.


This is also why I laugh when 90s guys come in saying curry would get roughed up.. they acknowledge the defense can be more physical but ignore that you could fking plow people with screens from guys who would be body guards if not for basketball, mason, oakley, davis, malone and so forth.. anyone touches curry, and there going to unexpectedly run into a few brick walls

[swagga]

2013 heat come to mind.. they got away with a lot, especially on defense. Between Battier, Wade, and Bron, I dont even know how refs could call it though, a very slimy, slick bunch with their tactics.

join date and post result in total :lol

[34-24 Footwork]

actually no.
officiating has been horrible/poor, but there is a difference in getting calls (like most contenders/stars) and flat out bending the rules for a single team (lakers-kings/blazers, gsw moving screens).

bogut and draymond are setting picks that would result in fights at any park. kg's and perkins' picks are nothing compared to this shit.

You're literally on the board crying about Curry and Klay making jumpshots :lol

You're the white girl in the horror flick begging for mercy before she's killed.

Your tears are delicious.

[swagga]

You're literally on the board crying about Curry and Klay making jumpshots :lol

You're the white girl in the horror flick begging for mercy before she's killed.

Your tears are delicious.

:roll: y'all kids need to grow up tbh.

[34-24 Footwork]

:roll: y'all kids need to grow up tbh.

Youre literally on a message forum board crying about 2 players making jumpshots

Keep crying though. The Warriors can't be stopped.

[Akhenaten]

2013 heat come to mind.. they got away with a lot, especially on defense. Between Battier, Wade, and Bron, I dont even know how refs could call it though, a very slimy, slick bunch with their tactics.


care to elaborate?

but yeah GSW has taken illegal screens to a whole nother level, KG/Perkins are like quadrupedal primates to Dray/Bogus' evolved bipedal man (evolution is bullshit btw, quickest analogy that came to mind).

these dude's be downfield blocking like the Patriots running a screen play :lol

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/Haskel45/wJbqeey_zps9q0hxeht.gif

I mean look at this sh*t :lol

a typical dray/bogus screen

http://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/assets/4812698/linemanshort.gif

Only way to get through is to do what the guy in all black did or flop like justise did on that one play last night to draw attention from the dumb ass refs

respect to the BEIGEgawd though, I love that dude's game but these illegals screens is some bull

[Lebron23]

Here's the video

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/golden-state-warriors-draymond-green-stephen-curry-illegal-screen-3-pointer-miami-heat-022516

[zizozain]

http://letsgowarriors.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/20140425_warriors-clippers-sights-what-foul-meme-366x366.jpg

[kamil]

Meltdown. :oldlol:

Hold this L, baldy.

[IncarceratedBob]

what's it matter? heat is mediocre anyway

[kshutts1]

Wasn't just an illegal screen.. Green just grabbed him as well.. Nothing about that screen was legal at all and pretty much broke virtually every rule when it comes to setting legal screens.

This is the most frustrating thing about the NBA. There are a lot of rules.. And most the time they aren't enforced.. It's frustrating. They should just enforce all the rules. The league in the long run would be far better..
Thread should have ended about 6 replies in...

[Derka]

I think I've seen Kevin Garnett set about 620,000 moving screens over the course of his career. You could fill a flash drive with GIFs of all the moving screens that are set in just about every game that is played on a given night.

[Dresta]

It was an bad no-call, and Warriors fans should just admit it instead of making pathetic justifications like "b-b-but they touched Steph, or but Wade got fts" without actually posting any examples. The thing that made it particularly egregious was that they'd just called illegal screens on Green and Whiteside, on plays that weren't as bad as this one; the least you can expect is a bit of consistency with the calls. Was a really good game anyway, though.

[tpols]

these dude's be downfield blocking like the Patriots running a screen play :lol

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/Haskel45/wJbqeey_zps9q0hxeht.gif


what is a moving screen though ? you have to move, to get to the spot where you want to screen, is there like a time limit for how long you have to be still for it to not be moving.. ? like .5 seconds, 1 second, 2 seconds, whats the time limit?


I always thought a moving screen is when you hit the guy once, and then when he tries to get around it, you slide and hit him again, like riding the defender w/ a moving wall.

[RoseCity07]

I've noticed it too. They get some of the weakest touch fouls but are allowed to play physical defense.

There was a team like this though. The Shaq and Kobe Lakers and the Lakers team that Kobe played on with Pau, Bynum, and Artest.

[sd3035]

This is a bran family meltdown thread :applause: :applause:

[kshutts1]

what is a moving screen though ? you have to move, to get to the spot where you want to screen, is there like a time limit for how long you have to be still for it to not be moving.. ? like .5 seconds, 1 second, 2 seconds, whats the time limit?


I always thought a moving screen is when you hit the guy once, and then when he tries to get around it, you slide and hit him again, like riding the defender w/ a moving wall.
Moving screen, without looking up the definition, has two parts...
1) Player setting the screen must be in position (already in place, feet set) when he and the defensive player make contact.

2) He may not move his body from that original position. This includes, but is not limited to, sticking his butt or hips out, using his arms/elbows, or shuffling his feet to gain better position.

[Hopper15]

It was an bad no-call, and Warriors fans should just admit it instead of making pathetic justifications like "b-b-but they touched Steph, or but Wade got fts" without actually posting any examples. The thing that made it particularly egregious was that they'd just called illegal screens on Green and Whiteside, on plays that weren't as bad as this one; the least you can expect is a bit of consistency with the calls. Was a really good game anyway, though.


Warriors fans should care less. Josh Richardson was holding Curry the whole game and not much was called.

[Dresta]

what is a moving screen though ? you have to move, to get to the spot where you want to screen, is there like a time limit for how long you have to be still for it to not be moving.. ? like .5 seconds, 1 second, 2 seconds, whats the time limit?


I always thought a moving screen is when you hit the guy once, and then when he tries to get around it, you slide and hit him again, like riding the defender w/ a moving wall.
lol, that David Lee screen actually blocked off two guys: he went right and then he went left. Couldn't be more blatant.

[nba_55]

what is a moving screen though ? you have to move, to get to the spot where you want to screen, is there like a time limit for how long you have to be still for it to not be moving.. ? like .5 seconds, 1 second, 2 seconds, whats the time limit?


I always thought a moving screen is when you hit the guy once, and then when he tries to get around it, you slide and hit him again, like riding the defender w/ a moving wall.

That David Lee gif is a good example of a moving screen.

[sd3035]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkJ8gxRYlOE

[tpols]

lol, that David Lee screen actually blocked off two guys: he went right and then he went left. Couldn't be more blatant.

I was looking at draymond, that was a nice little chip. Lee did set a moving screen, but let's be honest, theyre set all game long regardless. The only time refs call a moving screen is if you blindside someone with such force they have to, or as a make up call for something else

[KungFuJoe]

Is Lee holding Shump's leg in that gif?????

[Akhenaten]

Is Lee holding Shump's leg in that gif?????

yes he is

for tpols its incumbent on the ballhandler to pace himself and allow the screener to get set

dray's screen was also illegal in that gif, he was NOT set and shifted his shoulder/body over to the right

[Heavincent]

Moving screens are like holding in football...refs call it when they feel like it.

I think there is some gamesmanship going on though. Warriors know they're not gonna call it every time.

[r0drig0lac]

I've noticed it too. They get some of the weakest touch fouls but are allowed to play physical defense.

There was a team like this though. The Shaq and Kobe Lakers and the Lakers team that Kobe played on with Pau, Bynum, and Artest.

thunder 2012

[nba_55]

How was this not called a moving screen?

https://vine.co/v/i6qv2i2aAAP

[WorldWarriors]

so...

http://official.nba.com/nba-officiating-last-two-minute-report-february-24-2016/

[Akhenaten]

How was this not called a moving screen?

https://vine.co/v/i6qv2i2aAAP

they do that crap EVERY possession

people downplaying it are funny

[Black and White]

Happens every year with the best teams.

Also, I'd like to point out that refs miss moving screens all the time, as well as travelling, it's not just the Warriors.

[WorldWarriors]

People making a big deal out of it are funny. There's the officiating report.

[theaussieguy]

its just like carrys and travels, they are UNIVERSALLY rarely called. To say only the warriors get away with it displays a surreal level of one sightedness and ignorance beyond the level I would expect from an objectively non biased fan of basketball.

[Akhenaten]

so...

http://official.nba.com/nba-officiating-last-two-minute-report-february-24-2016/

Green sets the screen on Deng and gives him room to avoid the contact
28.6 sec


so they'll point out this inconsequential sh*t but not even so much as address the blatant moving screen that allowed Curry to hit the game-winning three?

fucc outta here

[WorldWarriors]

Green sets the screen on Deng and gives him room to avoid the contact
28.6 sec


so they'll point out this inconsequential sh*t but not even so much as address the blatant moving screen that allowed Curry to hit the game-winning three?

fucc outta here You gtfo with your crying. :oldlol:

[GrapeApe]

There were definitely moving screens throughout the game and Green was obviously moving on that last one, but the Heat had opportinities to win and didn't captitalize. The game was there to be won, and it's a slippery slope when you start blaming the officiating. Great teams being allowed to bend the rules has been happening since, well forever.

[inclinerator]

moving screens, bigs getting away with fouls lol

[NBASTATMAN]

Did you guys see the moving screen by Green on Curry's last 3?

This shit happens on the regular. And I don't get why


Link will come when I'm on a computer


Yes that was an offensive foul by Green.. Not called. It would have changed that game

[InsanityKills]

Its sickening to watch this shit. Refs gifting the Warriors wins. Their season will definitely have an *.

[Smoke117]

The Lakers 2000-2002 three-peat comes to mind. It's not just the Kings 2001 either...the Blazers 2000 got screwed too...which is why this happened the next season:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGu_f9ObKmo

Scottie just snapped after all the bullshit and launched that ball.

[GrapeApe]

Yes that was an offensive foul by Green.. Not called. It would have changed that game

It was a huge play, no dout. The Heat would have had possession and a 1 point lead. It was obviously a missed call, but I still maintain that the Heat lost because of missed opportunities. They missed some ft's and failed to convert several high % shots at the rim. I knew those things would come back to bite them and sure enough it did.

[gilalizard]

Any team with LeBaldo on it is automatically the most protected.

There is no close second.

[Akhenaten]

The Lakers 2000-2002 three-peat comes to mind. It's not just the Kings 2001 either...the Blazers 2000 got screwed too...which is why this happened the next season:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGu_f9ObKmo

Scottie just snapped after all the bullshit and launched that ball.

Wow!
Then tried to cover it up saying it was a three second call and not a foul it was just pure coincidence that the call came right as Shaw lost the ball. It wasn't a three seconds either Scottie cleansed himself.

I usually scoff at conspiracy theories but man was that blantant and obvious.

[D. Toretto]

The pick was illegal, but then again, you see this all the time with top teams. Lebrons stiff arm etc