WHY does OKC continue to play like this?!

[stalkerforlife]

48 shots between Durant and Westbrook.

They don't give other players a chance to get into a rhythm.

WTF?! Players that don't get into a rhythm offensively tend to play worse defensively, too.

[bdreason]

It's a trust issue. Early in the game, they have no problem getting Ibaka and Kanter shots. As soon as they get in a hole, or the game gets tight, the Stars stop trusting the roleplayers, and it turns into the Durant and Westbrook show.

[HenryGarfunkle]

Because their roster is ****ing terrible you retard. :facepalm

Who deserves more shots? Waiters? Singler? Adams?

You don't anything about basketball.

[outbreak]

Because their roster is ****ing terrible you retard. :facepalm

Who deserves more shots? Waiters? Singler? Adams?

You don't anything about basketball.
for once I agree with you.

OKC's best chance to win is durant and westbrook taking shots. They signed Waiters and Kanter to be scorers but both guys fell though, Singler was a desperate attempt at offence but he should be paying OKC to be on the roster not the other way around. I like Ibaka but he's not a guy you want taking too many shots either.

[stalkerforlife]

Because their roster is ****ing terrible you retard. :facepalm

Who deserves more shots? Waiters? Singler? Adams?

You don't anything about basketball.

They have a roster full of NBA players; Durant and Westbrook draw a lot of attention; but they REFUSE to give up their personal scoring stats to get others into a rhythm.

Other players would get WIDE OPEN shots all game if Westbrook and Durant went out of their way; and those same role players would play harder defensively!

[HenryGarfunkle]

for once I agree with you.

OKC's best chance to win is durant and westbrook taking shots. They signed Waiters and Kanter to be scorers but both guys fell though, Singler was a desperate attempt at offence but he should be paying OKC to be on the roster not the other way around. I like Ibaka but he's not a guy you want taking too many shots either.
They all suck, including Ibaka. He's a black hole... butter fingers... not clutch at all... boneheaded to the core

Kanter is massively talented on offense, but the opposite of that on defense, so he doesn't have much positive impact either.

They have no versatility. They have a bunch of one-dimensional bums. Presti has done about as bad as you can do at trading away talent for something in return. OKC is a joke.

[Young X]

They're just way too easy to score on for a team that's supposed to have championship aspirations.

They're the worst defensive team out of the top level teams right now.

idk how many times I've seen them give up 110+ against below .500 teams. Gave up 123 to the Pelicans tonight.

They have a couple other problems like they're constant 1 on 1 play at the end of games or inconsistent bench play but their main problem is on the defensive end. You CANNOT win a championship if you can't get stops. So far they haven't shown that ability.

[Mike smith]

offense wasn't there problem they scored 119

[Graviton]

You should seriously focus more on spending time with your kids, not trolling on ISH in your late 30s.

[stalkerforlife]

Roberson, their starting 2, got 2 shots in 22 minutes! Singler got 1 shot in 17 minutes!

Players other than Durant and Westbrook shot 19-38; thus, your excuses are BS!

Westbrook and Durant got 48 shots; the role players got 38 and shot 50%!

They will NEVER win a title playing this way.

[warriorfan]

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[HenryGarfunkle]

They have a roster full of NBA players; Durant and Westbrook draw a lot of attention; but they REFUSE to give up their personal scoring stats to get others into a rhythm.

Other players would get WIDE OPEN shots all game if Westbrook and Durant went out of their way; and those same role players would play harder defensively!
They miss wide open shots. Their starting SG, Roberson, is literally left wide open on purpose. Dion Waiters is terrible. Singler might be the worst player in the NBA.

You just don't know. OKC has no hope.

[stalkerforlife]

They miss wide open shots. Their starting SG, Roberson, is literally left wide open on purpose. Dion Waiters is terrible. Singler might be the worst player in the NBA.

You just don't know. OKC has no hope.

They shot 19-38, Simon.

Just stop.

Durant and Westbrook shot 10 more shots than the rest of the team combined...and it was due to selfishness and low IQ.

Players that don't touch the ball offensively don't get into a rhythm and don't break their back for you defensively.

[Mike smith]

Offense isn't the issue its defense bro

[stalkerforlife]

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Now there's a man that knows how to win.

[Smoke117]

Because their roster is ****ing terrible you retard. :facepalm

Who deserves more shots? Waiters? Singler? Adams?

You don't know anything about basketball.

No...he doesn't.

[buddha]

It's a trust issue. Early in the game, they have no problem getting Ibaka and Kanter shots. As soon as they get in a hole, or the game gets tight, the Stars stop trusting the roleplayers, and it turns into the Durant and Westbrook show.

they usually get in that hole because the role players are playing like ass.

[HenryGarfunkle]

They shot 19-38, Simon.

Just stop.

Durant and Westbrook shot 10 more shots than the rest of the team combined...and it was due to selfishness and low IQ.

Players that don't touch the ball offensively don't get into a rhythm and don't break their back for you defensively.
Your trolling sucks, just thought i'd vent a little about OKC's disgustingly bad roster.

Carry on

[stalkerforlife]

Offense isn't the issue its defense bro

Players that don't touch the ball on offense don't break their back for you defensively.

Secondly, there is a HUGE problem with the offense...their one dimensional ISO play in the clutch is too predictable and leaves them more vulnerable than a team with great ball movement.

[Crimsonrain777]

i wonder where Durant is gonna go after this season. i hope it's an East team

[Jameerthefear]

they just have really not done a good job with the 2 guard position. just haven't been able to get a good one

[Wally450]

I never thought that OKC would be atop the West with SA and GS. At least those teams have depth. This OKC team is Westbrook and Durant. Not enough to get it done come playoff time.

GS in 5.

SA in 6.

[Graviton]

So Durant/Westbrook shot 28-48, which is 58%.

The role players shots 19-38, which is 50%.

But you think them shooting more would have been better? Offense wasn't even the issue this game, Pelicans just hit some ridiculous contested 3s.

[Mike smith]

Yeah I agree with you the offense looks same as before but the reason for that is personnel. None of there bigs can pass, Russ has ball in his hands so much and when he doesn't it's Durant. Since there bigs can't pass they don't have players cutting toward the basket. Thunder aren't very skilled well rounded players outside of Durant and Westbrook everyone is just a specialist at one or 2 things.

[stalkerforlife]

So Durant/Westbrook shot 28-48, which is 58%.

The role players shots 19-38, which is 50%.

But you think them shooting more would have been better? Offense wasn't even the issue this game, Pelicans just hit some ridiculous contested 3s.

Have you never played the game of basketball?

If you're not involved offensively, it's a natural tendency to play lazily/worse defensively.

[Smoke117]

Players that don't touch the ball on offense don't break their back for you defensively.

Secondly, there is a HUGE problem with the offense...their one dimensional ISO play in the clutch is too predictable and leaves them more vulnerable than a team with great ball movement.

Am I the only one that finds it hilarious that a guy who slobbers all over Kobe's dick is complaining about one-dimensional iso ball?

[HenryGarfunkle]

Am I the only one that finds it hilarious that a guy who slobbers all over Kobe's dick is complaining about one-dimensional iso ball?
Even more hilarious, the guy hasn't left his house in 15 years since dropping out of high school because of acne, yet he's over here asking people if they've ever played basketball. :roll:

This dude hasn't competed in ANYTHING his entire ****ing life...

And I know he's trolling, but it is fun pointing it out to people who aren't familiar with him. He's probably the biggest loser of all time, but he's unintentionally funny, i'll give him that. :applause:

[Mr. Jabbar]

chalk up another L for the simon family :lol

[stalkerforlife]

Am I the only one that finds it hilarious that a guy who slobbers all over Kobe's dick is complaining about one-dimensional iso ball?

That's because you never watched Kobe without wanting him to fail; your opinion is therefore meaningless.

Kobe, in the playoffs, especially during all of his finals runs, played primarily in the post and dissected the defense like it was a cadaver and he was a coroner. Kobe played to win; at the expense of his box score stats. Kobe drew double and triple teams constantly during all of his 7 finals trips, but he chose to make the play to help him win rather than make the play to make his box score look better.

You will never understand the game like me. Never.

[Heavincent]

What else are they gonna do? I'm sure they would love to run a nice motion offense with more ball movement, but they don't have the players to do that.

They need somebody like Iguodala...a two way player that can handle the ball and facilitate the offense. Too bad guys like that are pretty hard to come by.

[Graviton]

Have you never played the game of basketball?

If you're not involved offensively, it's a natural tendency to play lazily/worse defensively.
38 shots is "not involved"?

I guess getting payed millions of dollars is not enough to put some effort into defense, makes sense. Do you have any other insights into the minds of pro NBA players mister? Are you a psychologist by any chance?

[CuterThanRubio]

they just have really not done a good job with the 2 guard position. just haven't been able to get a good one

I'm not sure if this was intentional but I picked up on it lol

Trading Harden essentially closed their championship window and locked it shut, that's for sure.

As I mentioned in a thread earlier today, Westbrook is a statpadder and his end of game numbers don't reflect his abilities in crunchtime, or better yet during the moments leading up to crunchtime that kill all of his teammates rhythm and force him to chuck contested shots instead of looking to create the best possible shot lol.

[stalkerforlife]

Even more hilarious, the guy hasn't left his house in 15 years since dropping out of high school because of acne, yet he's over here asking people if they've ever played basketball. :roll:

This dude hasn't competed in ANYTHING his entire ****ing life...

And I know he's trolling, but it is fun pointing it out to people who aren't familiar with him. He's probably the biggest loser of all time, but he's unintentionally funny, i'll give him that. :applause:

Fuming.

Listen Simon, I want Durant to win...I love the guy. But it just isn't happening with this style of basketball; and it has nothing to do with the roster.

I've met and talked to Billy D and I have a picture with him, as you know; I want Billy D to do well very badly.

[HenryGarfunkle]

I'm not sure if this was intentional but I picked up on it lol

Trading Harden essentially closed their championship window and locked it shut, that's for sure.

As I mentioned in a thread earlier today, Westbrook is a statpadder and his end of game numbers don't reflect his abilities in crunchtime, or better yet during the moments leading up to crunchtime that kill all of his teammates rhythm and force him to chuck contested shots instead of looking to create the best possible shot lol.
lol

[Heavincent]

Trading Harden essentially closed their championship window and locked it shut, that's for sure.


They wouldn't pay Harden, but they're giving Kanter and Singler a combined $95 million :roll:

[Mr. Jabbar]

Fuming.

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[stalkerforlife]

https://i.imgsafe.org/515ff5a.png

:lol

He's such a little twerp, but he's our little twerp.

[Mr. Jabbar]

:lol

He's such a little twerp, but he's our little twerp.

:lol :lol

[knicksman]

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:roll:

[90sgoat]

chalk up another L for the simon family :lol

Very inbred family.

[dazzer87]

ft35 brings nothing to the table except scoring. Never try getting his teammates involved in the offense. Plays lazy D......but at the end its always someone else's fault.

[theaussieguy]

exactly OP, its ridiculous, these superstar oriented teams are a thing of the past. A well built team with superstars that compliment the style of play are and have always been the best thing. Its why guys like Harden will never win a chip because their ego cannot bring themselves to play a team game conducive to winning championships.

I believe KD and Westbrook have it within them to make this change but they are stuck at a loser organization. This mentality has to be implemented from the top down.

[Lebronxrings]

roster just sucks. OKC should have built around durant and westbrook. Instead they got a bunch of iso one dimensional chuckers to play alongside them. Waiters, kanter are really bad...

[KNOW1EDGE]

Roberson, their starting 2, got 2 shots in 22 minutes! Singler got 1 shot in 17 minutes!

Players other than Durant and Westbrook shot 19-38; thus, your excuses are BS!

Westbrook and Durant got 48 shots; the role players got 38 and shot 50%!

They will NEVER win a title playing this way.

There are too many facts and too much truth for these bums to acknowledge or comprehend.

[knicksman]

If you have a player who wants to have all the stats and worse a bully, then expect that team to be toxic. Theres a reason why okc played better in 2014 without westbrook coz its obvious they dont want to play with him. They arent getting touches with him. Iverson, robertson are the same players as westbrook and they were considered cancers.

[BlazerRed]

2 players can't win a championship. Their bench is trash compared to the real contenders.

[BlakFrankWhite]

nah, its all good

you know KD isn't even trying 100% coz he knows 3rd place is secure, the playoffs is when we see him at full potential.

the only time ive seen KD give it his all this season was against the Warriors when he was hitting one ridiculous shot after the other despite getting guarded by DPOY level defenders Iggy and Dray.

Best Player In The World.

[dunksby]

Dished out 16 assists, don't involve teammates though.

[JebronLames]

2 players can't win a championship. Their bench is trash compared to the real contenders.
1 player can. Watch the 2013 finals.

[wally_world]

I blame the coaching staff. Not much has changed since Scott Brooks' departure. The ONLY play we ever run is a high screen and roll.

[ImKobe]

no one else but Durant and Westbrook can create their own shot

Westbrook puts up 10 assists a game, KD 5

they are passing the ball...close games the star players are supposed to close the deal...Kobe won 5, MJ won 6 that way. The issue is that they don't have a 3rd guy they can rely on to get a shot off.. Ibaka, Adams and especially Waiters are TRASH on the offensive end. Waiters has shot like 25% over the last month...and he's been starting too.. They got Roberson back but dude has no offensive game

OKC needs to pull all the strings and get ISO Joe

[AirFederer]

They have a roster full of NBA players; Durant and Westbrook draw a lot of attention; but they REFUSE to give up their personal scoring stats to get others into a rhythm.

Other players would get WIDE OPEN shots all game if Westbrook and Durant went out of their way; and those same role players would play harder defensively!

Quite funny to see a Kobestas utter those words :lol

[keep-itreal]

I like Westbrook's haircut

[BlazerRed]

no one else but Durant and Westbrook can create their own shot

Westbrook puts up 10 assists a game, KD 5

they are passing the ball...close games the star players are supposed to close the deal...Kobe won 5, MJ won 6 that way. The issue is that they don't have a 3rd guy they can rely on to get a shot off.. Ibaka, Adams and especially Waiters are TRASH on the offensive end. Waiters has shot like 25% over the last month...and he's been starting too.. They got Roberson back but dude has no offensive game

OKC needs to pull all the strings and get ISO Joe

This. The team is really poorly made IMO. There's no scorers outside of Durant and Westbrook, and their defenders are horribly overrated. Ibaka is trash and unless the FO realizes it soon the Thunder are screwed. They need to try and move him for some complimentary pieces.

That being said, I think Westbrook and KD definitely have another gear. Not sure it's going to be enough to get past the Spurs or Warriors though unless they get some help from the rest of the team.

[WorldWarriors]

no one else but Durant and Westbrook can create their own shot

Westbrook puts up 10 assists a game, KD 5

they are passing the ball...close games the star players are supposed to close the deal...Kobe won 5, MJ won 6 that way. The issue is that they don't have a 3rd guy they can rely on to get a shot off.. Ibaka, Adams and especially Waiters are TRASH on the offensive end. Waiters has shot like 25% over the last month...and he's been starting too.. They got Roberson back but dude has no offensive game

OKC needs to pull all the strings and get ISO Joe

MJ trusted others to take the last shot in crunchtime in the finals twice that I know for sure. Steve Kerr and Paxton are 2 I can think of off the top of my head.

Normally you would want your superstar to close the deal but if there is an easier way you take it.

[senelcoolidge]

I don't understand how the media always overrates some team. This year OKC is so overrated. Before it was the Grizzlies.

[Just2McFly]

Durant and Westbrook are one the nastiest duos in NBA history, yet they take all the blame unjustly. They overexert themselves offensively to cover up their weaknesses on that end, just to have to do the same on the other side. That's problem with their team, these guys dont have great strengths, they are just a meh team outside of their superstars

[MMM]

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green and gold suits him well

[CuterThanRubio]

Dished out 16 assists, don't involve teammates though.

There is a difference in impact on overall team rhythm depending on how a player distributes the ball.

Hogging the rock to the point where you are purposely trying to be the guy dishing directly to a score versus thinking a few moves ahead and swinging the ball more often creates that unquantifiable "energy" so to speak and keeps the scrubs interested and focused.

We also need to start recording how many of his assists were simply gifts from the scorekeeper, I feel like that has become a real problem in the league (don't get me started on moving screens).

[dunksby]

There is a difference in impact on overall team rhythm depending on how a player distributes the ball.

Hogging the rock to the point where you are purposely trying to be the guy dishing directly to a score versus thinking a few moves ahead and swinging the ball more often creates that unquantifiable "energy" so to speak and keeps the scrubs interested and focused.

We also need to start recording how many of his assists were simply gifts from the scorekeeper, I feel like that has become a real problem in the league (don't get me started on moving screens).
Or even better, start watching OKC games so you don't spit out some talking points just to look like your know what you are talking about.

[CuterThanRubio]

Or even better, start watching OKC games so you don't spit out some talking points just to look like your know what you are talking about.

Attack me instead of addressing the real issues lol, I guess I can't blame you I'd be frustrated if I was a fan of them, but it will be alright, buddy, OKC is forever cursed thanks to Clayton Bennett so enjoy the regular season stat padding!

[HenryGarfunkle]

Attack me instead of addressing the real issues lol, I guess I can't blame you I'd be frustrated if I was a fan of them, but it will be alright, buddy, OKC is forever cursed thanks to Clayton Bennett so enjoy the regular season stat padding!
Unnecessary man. You can make your points without trolling. And I agree with you about almost everything. It's a personnel problem though, and if Westbrook didn't play the way he does, we'd probably have a worse record right now. KD's in cruise control until the playoffs, but even a 100% healthy KD isn't enough this year to overcome the lack of talent/chemistry of OKC, despite his projected monster individual playoff run. (36/10/4 on 54%)

[dunksby]

Attack me instead of addressing the real issues lol, I guess I can't blame you I'd be frustrated if I was a fan of them, but it will be alright, buddy, OKC is forever cursed thanks to Clayton Bennett so enjoy the regular season stat padding!
More excellent reasoning.

[CuterThanRubio]

Unnecessary man. You can make your points without trolling. And I agree with you about almost everything. It's a personnel problem though, and if Westbrook didn't play the way he does, we'd probably have a worse record right now. KD's in cruise control until the playoffs, but even a 100% healthy KD isn't enough this year to overcome the lack of talent/chemistry of OKC, despite his projected monster individual playoff run. (36/10/4 on 54%)

This is coming from a career troll with multiple alternate accounts? That is funny to me. I've been lurking the site for over a year before Jeff bothered to activate me so I'm pretty caught up on how things go down around here.

But yeah, I understand why Westbrook is trying so hard to carry the entire team on his back without bothering to get them involved on a level beyond assist providing dump off shooters, I just don't think that strategy is built for success in the playoffs. If KD would just take the reigns I think it would help them tremendously, he doesn't seem to possess the same level of "gravity" that someone like Curry does but I think he should be able to create much more space for his guys. It is strange that those two seem to coexist pretty well but something about them just doesn't seem to totally click, it could be the scrubby role players bogging them down but we have seen them falter with decent pieces in place and attempting to psychoanalyze them from afar is probably a waste of time (Although crying during the mvp ceremony showed a HUGE lack of toughness, no wonder they can't win the big game :hammerhead: )

[dazzer87]

ft35 is now in cruise control till the playoff??????????:roll: :roll: :roll:

[HenryGarfunkle]

This is coming from a career troll with multiple alternate accounts? That is funny to me. I've been lurking the site for over a year before Jeff bothered to activate me so I'm pretty caught up on how things go down around here.

That's the joke


But yeah, I understand why Westbrook is trying so hard to carry the entire team on his back without bothering to get them involved on a level beyond assist providing dump off shooters, I just don't think that strategy is built for success in the playoffs. If KD would just take the reigns I think it would help them tremendously, he doesn't seem to possess the same level of "gravity" that someone like Curry does but I think he should be able to create much more space for his guys. It is strange that those two seem to coexist pretty well but something about them just doesn't seem to totally click, it could be the scrubby role players bogging them down but we have seen them falter with decent pieces in place and attempting to psychoanalyze them from afar is probably a waste of time (Although crying during the mvp ceremony showed a HUGE lack of toughness, no wonder they can't win the big game :hammerhead: )
Not a lot I disagree with, except the last part. KD has more individual burden down the stretch than any player in the league, and there's probably no other guy in is position that could come through as consistently as he does. I'm talking isolation plays with no spacing with the other teams best perimeter in your grill at the top of the key.... and your goal is to score the ball and win the game. No other guy has that responsibility and no other guy could do it more than KD does. Criticizing him for not beating San Antonio in the playoffs, is so silly. because no other player in the world could replace him and garner better results.

[Gileraracer]

i wonder where Durant is gonna go after this season. i hope it's an East team


Cakewalk to the finals :banana:

[LARRY BROWN]

Durant and west are ball hogs!

no one can play defense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

they need to start payne and kantier

and maybe think about playing d

they will lose to spurs in the second
this summer the whole team will break up

[BlazerRed]

Or even better, start watching OKC games so you don't spit out some talking points just to look like your know what you are talking about.
Boom :applause:

[BlazerRed]

Durant and west are ball hogs!

no one can play defense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

they need to start payne and kantier

and maybe think about playing d

they will lose to spurs in the second
this summer the whole team will break up
:coleman:

[Young X]

It's annoying how little people talk about defense when discussing a team.

OKC scored 119 points yesterday! And people are still talking about what KD and Westbrook do offensively like they aren't the 2nd best offensive team behind Golden State.

The issue is they gave up 120+ to the Pelicans. That's the problem. If you can't stop teams like the Pelicans, Nets and Knicks from scoring 110+ then how the hell do you expect to stop the Warriors or whoever they'll face?

This is the reason the mid-2000 Suns teams didn't win a championship, because they couldn't get stops, because they didn't play good team defense. Their mentality was just to outgun other team and that's what OKC is trying to do now. And it will never work.

[BlazerRed]

It's annoying how little people talk about defense when discussing a team.

OKC scored 119 points yesterday! And people are still talking about what KD and Westbrook do offensively like they aren't the 2nd best offensive team behind Golden State.

The issue is they gave up 120+ to the Pelicans. That's the problem. If you can't stop teams like the Pelicans, Nets and Knicks from scoring 110+ then how the hell do you expect to stop the Warriors or whoever they'll face?

This is the reason the mid-2000 Suns teams didn't win a championship, because they couldn't get stops, because they didn't play good team defense. Their mentality was just to outgun other team and that's what OKC is trying to do now. And it will never work.

Well said. It's obvious to me Durant and Westbrook are coasting on the defensive end. Both are very capable defensively but are just letting people walk right by them at. Ibaka is extremely overrated on the defensive end, Adams even hasn't been doing a whole lot. That leaves Roberson, and that's not enough.

[rasko]

It's annoying how little people talk about defense when discussing a team.

OKC scored 119 points yesterday! And people are still talking about what KD and Westbrook do offensively like they aren't the 2nd best offensive team behind Golden State.

The issue is they gave up 120+ to the Pelicans. That's the problem. If you can't stop teams like the Pelicans, Nets and Knicks from scoring 110+ then how the hell do you expect to stop the Warriors or whoever they'll face?

This is the reason the mid-2000 Suns teams didn't win a championship, because they couldn't get stops, because they didn't play good team defense. Their mentality was just to outgun other team and that's what OKC is trying to do now. And it will never work.

This
They have been trading baskets all season long

[Genaro]

Like a lot of people said: Offense isn't the problem. Their defense is really bad, like Byron Scott bad, right now. They can't cover anyone on pick and rolls.

And if they get their best defensive line-up on (witch is basically their starting 5) the offense suffers. If they put their offense line up (Westbrook, KD, Kanter, Waiters and Ibaka) on, they can't guard anyone.

OKC should really invest on 2 way players.

[La Frescobaldi]

lulz this thread.

I've been saying this for years. durant stans like kg215 and fudge constantly and vocally envious of my vast hoops knowledge and they live in complete denial of the endless futility of Urant & Westbrook

BWAAAHAAAAHAHAHAHAHA

[toxicxr6]

Have you never played the game of basketball?

If you're not involved offensively, it's a natural tendency to play lazily/worse defensively.


With a comment like that I wonder if you have ever played basketball.
These are professionals. If their attitude is how you describe then they won't last long in the league. Nobody wants players like that on their team..

Saying that the problem with okc is not offense.. It's defense.. And it's not about players being lazy on defense.. The reality is most of the okc is not capable of playing good defense