Bran 5-47 on go ahead/game tying shots in last 5 seconds

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/703425374294769664

:roll: :roll: :lebroncry: :lebroncry:

[warriorfan]

Iguodala Choking Confirmed

[Sarcastic]

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[InsanityKills]

https://twitter.com/AlokPattaniESPN/status/597785004123561984/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[IllegalD]

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:




LeBron Famiglia, hold this L

LeBron fam avoiding this thread like LeBron avoids game winners. :dancin

[G0ATbe]

Jesus:biggums:

[Cold soul]

Ouch that's pretty bad. But to be fair to Lebron usually has always been chocker late in games and final shot just not in his DNA.

[Inferno]

Yikes

[IllegalD]

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[kamil]

3rd all time, right? lol

[IllegalD]

5-47 will forever be associated with LeBron and him being a choker. :banana: :banana: :lebronamazed:

[BlazerRed]

Just ol Bron

[34-24 Footwork]

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:lol :lol :lol :lol

[Funktion]

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:pimp:

[Ca$H]

Bran is the most overrated player in NBA history. Just a manufactured "chosen one" by the media.

[wordsRweapons]

LEBRON HATERS FAM what a time!!!

[FreezingTsmoove]

Bran is the most overrated player in NBA history. Just a manufactured "chosen one" by the media.

Media knows this is one of the weakest eras of all time so they push Bron as an ATG

[1987_Lakers]

Not really surprising to be honest. There are a handful of players who are better in ISO situations, and it doesn't help that LeBron's jumper has never been a strong suite in his game.

[tpols]

classic bran .. eye test said this all along. body language, and demeanor has always been poor in these situations.

[HenryGarfunkle]

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[Indian guy]

In 5 seconds or less, you are essentially in a catch and shoot situation. Not LeBron's game, to say the least. His numbers, obviously, are a lot better once you lengthen the shot clock a little more. Pretty much any late-game metric has LeBron as one of the great late-game players of all time. And there's also this


Top 10 teams in clutch per 100 possessions since 1997


2009 Cavaliers: +39.9
2013 Heat: +33.7
2011 Mavericks: +29.5
2007 Mavericks: +29.0
2006 Clippers: +27.1
2010 Cavaliers: +26.4
1998 Lakers: +26.2
1999 Magic: +25.7
2008 Cavaliers: +24.2
2004 Pacers: +23.4

[InsanityKills]

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:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

We da best!

[Chokefree]

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

We da best!
2/6 doe...... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[InsanityKills]

2/7 fmvp :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Lebronxrings]

well no surprise considering he takes many different shots as he isn't a stat padder like a kobe. :oldlol:

alpha af. :banana:

[Marchesk]

Is 5/47 to be added to the mystical list of numbers that rule ISH?

2/6, 1/9, 6/24, 0/11, 5/47

[Mike smith]

2/6 doe...... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Pretty remarkable tho he's been to the finals 6 times in not even a Lebron fan but people shouldn't hate on him he's one of the best basketball players to have played

[Dresta]

Just awful. Excuses incoming...

[Ca$H]

Media knows this is one of the weakest eras of all time so they push Bron as an ATG

I think they're switching to Curry though but he is an actual ATG. Came in completely unheralded from Davidson and took over as the best player in the NBA during the media/Nike driven "chosen one's" prime.

[IllegalD]

5-47

:yaohappy: :lebroncry: :lebroncry: :lebroncry: :lebroncry: :yaohappy:




:hammertime: http://i32.tinypic.com/ojmbyf.gif :dancin

[SpecialQue]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/703425374294769664

:roll: :roll: :lebroncry: :lebroncry:

Hold the phone, didn't the f@gg0ts behind this tweet also call him top 5 all time?

[Chadwin]

Is 5/47 to be added to the mystical list of numbers that rule ISH?

2/6, 1/9, 6/24, 0/11, 5/47

What's 0/11?

[Genaro]

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[Kvnzhangyay]

What's scary is that the league is only averaging 20.3% on these shots matching this criteria

WOAT era :bowdown: :bowdown:

[JohnMax]

No wonder he wants Joe Johnson: :roll:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcFrzIsW4AEcNhr.png

[Nick Young]

Lebronze is a disgrace to the very sport of basketball itself.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Lebronze is a disgrace to the very sport of basketball itself.


:lol this my friend, THIS. :facepalm

[coin24]

5-47:lol :lol :lol

Where are the bran stains??


Pauk is probably writing an essay about how the criteria should be last 6 mins of the 4th to include some wide open layups in blowouts:oldlol:

[sd3035]

seriously this can't be real, even a choker like Lebald can't be that bad

[Gileraracer]

Damnnn what a beta :lol

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I'm just gonna act like i didn't see that.

[sd3035]

5-47 is the new 2/6 :applause:

[Marchesk]

What's 0/11?

Finals MVP votes.

[Mr. Jabbar]

5-47 is the new 2/6 :applause:

HIDEOUS :oldlol: :roll:

[SouBeachTalents]

No wonder he wants Joe Johnson: :roll:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcFrzIsW4AEcNhr.png

A chart that has Curry as the worst 3 point shooter? Gotta be legit

[Harison]

Damn 5-47 :eek:

[buddha]

https://twitter.com/AlokPattaniESPN/status/597785004123561984/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

all 8 are probably layups or FT's

[Blue&Orange]

Is Lebron already on his farewell tour?

[Overdrive]

2/7 fmvp :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Lebron would give his first born for 2/7 if it meant he wins 5 times.

Whereas in reality he's 2/6 and only won 2 times.

[12th]

Note that this is regular season only. He's 4-12 in the playoffs in the past 10 seasons.

This also excludes the first 3 years of his career, in which he was 4-14 in these situations (and 1-2 in the playoffs). That "10 seasons" was chosen very intentionally to make this look worse.

The NBA as a whole is 51-250 on shots in this situation this season (20.4%). In LeBron's career he's 14.8% in the regular season and 35.7% in the playoffs, 18.7% combined.

If we're willing to expand our scope a bit beyond just taking a shot under 5 seconds, here are LeBron's stats per 48 clutch minutes (under 5 mins to go, game within 5 points) from 82games.com:

Season Pts Rebs Ass TS%
08-09 55.3 14.9 12.6 .692
09-10 66.1 15.9 8.3 .629
10-11 45.1 11.2 4.9 .601
11-12 33.2 15.1 9.3 .502
12-13 38.7 15.2 14.9 .554
13-14 42.8 9.8 5.4 .633
14-15 51.5 8.3 7.4 .587

And note that clutch time is when offensive efficiency goes down. The fact that LeBron can put up these numbers year in and year out in clutch time is staggering. Check those links: every year, not only is he a top scorer, he's one of the top guys on the list in rebounds, assists, and shooting efficiency.

The first couple seasons on the list, from his first Cleveland stint, average to more than 60-15-10 per 48 clutch minutes on .660 TS%. Think about that for a second. That's like Wilt Chamberlain combined with Oscar Robertson, except at today's pace instead of the inflated pace of 50 years ago, at super-efficient rates. There's probably no known precedent for that level of dominance.

[scuzzy]

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[Overdrive]

Note that this is regular season only. He's 4-12 in the playoffs in the past 10 seasons.

This also excludes the first 3 years of his career, in which he was 4-14 in these situations (and 1-2 in the playoffs). That "10 seasons" was chosen very intentionally to make this look worse.

The NBA as a whole is 51-250 on shots in this situation this season (20.4%). In LeBron's career he's 14.8% in the regular season and 35.7% in the playoffs, 18.7% combined.

If we're willing to expand our scope a bit beyond just taking a shot under 5 seconds, here are LeBron's stats per 48 clutch minutes (under 5 mins to go, game within 5 points) from 82games.com:

Season Pts Rebs Ass TS%
08-09 55.3 14.9 12.6 .692
09-10 66.1 15.9 8.3 .629
10-11 45.1 11.2 4.9 .601
11-12 33.2 15.1 9.3 .502
12-13 38.7 15.2 14.9 .554
13-14 42.8 9.8 5.4 .633
14-15 51.5 8.3 7.4 .587

And note that clutch time is when offensive efficiency goes down. The fact that LeBron can put up these numbers year in and year out in clutch time is staggering. Check those links: every year, not only is he a top scorer, he's one of the top guys on the list in rebounds, assists, and shooting efficiency.

The first couple seasons on the list, from his first Cleveland stint, average to more than 60-15-10 per 48 clutch minutes on .660 TS%. Think about that for a second. That's like Wilt Chamberlain combined with Oscar Robertson, except at today's pace instead of the inflated pace of 50 years ago, at super-efficient rates. There's probably no known precedent for that level of dominance.

Sure, extrapolating a 5 minutes sample will give some great background to a players stats, especially when the performance is fluctuating within those minutes aswell.

Not saying Lebron is bad, good or great just those stats aren't worthwile discussing imo. I wouldn't give the ball into Lebrons hands for the last shot no matter what, neither would I do with most star players.


In 5 seconds or less, you are essentially in a catch and shoot situation. Not LeBron's game, to say the least. His numbers, obviously, are a lot better once you lengthen the shot clock a little more. Pretty much any late-game metric has LeBron as one of the great late-game players of all time. And there's also this

5 seconds is enough to create a dribble pull up. Consistant shooting isn't Lebron's thing. His motions tend to vary and he often shoots off-balance shots leaning his legs forward. Of course he won't be as good as someone who squares up on set shots and even on pull up jumpers. Look at the great shooters, even the non catch and shoot one's the always try to stop the foward motion the moment they rise up and stay mostly vertical on there shots so the don't alter the distance to the basket between rising and beying on the apex of the jump. Those faux fade aways alot of players do are way harder to hit.

[ArbitraryWater]

last 5 seconds? :roll:

who tf is good on last 5 second shots..

[Overdrive]

last 5 seconds? :roll:

who tf is good on last 5 second shots..

Joe Johnson and KD I think, but sample size isn't that big IIRC.

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lets act like we all didnt see this.. :lol

[WindmiLL]

lets act like we all didnt see this.. :lol


Yep it's funny, Kobe stans always called Lebron ''regular season king'' and insinuated how regular season means shit and only playoffs matter, now Lebron in the playoffs is right there with Jordan and they conveniently ignore this but they're having orgasms over an airball in ''meaningless'' regular season game...

[Overdrive]

Yep it's funny, Kobe stans always called Lebron ''regular season king'' and insinuated how regular season means shit and only playoffs matter, now Lebron in the playoffs is right there with Jordan and they conveniently ignore this but they're having orgasms over an airball in ''meaningless'' regular season game...

Not ignoring. No Kobe fan, No Lebron fan, No Jordan fan. I've got no horse in this race so: Clutch is just stupid. These situations are pretty rare and seldomly decide a whole series. Last year's Lebron-shot vs the Bulls was a decisive one, he doesn't hit that the Bulls need to take 1 of 3 games.

The one against Orlando back in '09? Cosmetics, nothing else.

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Thread backfire.

[WindmiLL]

Not ignoring. No Kobe fan, No Lebron fan, No Jordan fan. I've got no horse in this race so: Clutch is just stupid. These situations are pretty rare and seldomly decide a whole series. Last year's Lebron-shot vs the Bulls was a decisive one, he doesn't hit that the Bulls need to take 1 of 3 games.

The one against Orlando back in '09? Cosmetics, nothing else.


I completely agree. Whole clutch thing is stupid or atleast less important than specific fanbase made it out to be on here.

It all started around 11' when Lebron had a series where he missed some gamewinners and Kobe had a series where he hit some gamewinners. And of course Kobe fans started to talk like that clutch scenario is all that matters in basketball and that clutch shit got overblown to the moon. Of course they were doing that only so that they could say Kobe>Lebron because they had nothing else to hold on to. Then that picture showing Lebron's, Jordan's and Kobe's gamewinners came out and it showed that Kobe is by far the worst of the three and then that clutch thing slowly started to fade out for some time. Now they are on the Curry/Durant(whoever plays the best that year, both great long range shooters with many gamewinners) bandwagoon and it became alive again :oldlol:

[Ca$H]

:roll:
No wonder he wants Joe Johnson: :roll:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcFrzIsW4AEcNhr.png

He was hoping Joe Johnson would bail him out like Ray Allen did.

[Ca$H]

Lebronze is a disgrace to the very sport of basketball itself.

Bran is a disgrace to humanity.

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[G.U.S.]

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Henry shutting this thread down:applause: :applause:

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Lebron fam stays winning :banana:

[sportjames23]

5-47 will forever be associated with LeBron and him being a choker. :banana: :banana: :lebronamazed:


Damn, that's far worse than 6/24. :oldlol:

Kobe stans, hold this W.

[sportjames23]

Yep it's funny, Kobe stans always called Lebron ''regular season king'' and insinuated how regular season means shit and only playoffs matter, now Lebron in the playoffs is right there with Jordan and they conveniently ignore this but they're having orgasms over an airball in ''meaningless'' regular season game...


If he was right there with Jordan in the playoffs, he'd be at least 5/6. Nice try, doe.

[WindmiLL]

If he was right there with Jordan in the playoffs, he'd be at least 5/6. Nice try, doe.


Only a retard like you could completely miss the point of my post and not understand to what ''right there with Jordan in the playoffs'' was directed to. To top it all there's a certain picture being quoted like 10 times and you still don't get it and start talking about the rings. Yeah, you're just a useless retard who's purpose is to be a stupid parrot on this forum.

Nice try, doe.

[34-24 Footwork]

Only a retard like you could completely miss the point of my post and not understand to what ''right there with Jordan in the playoffs'' was directed to. To top it all there's a certain picture being quoted like 10 times and you still don't get it and start talking about the rings. Yeah, you're just a useless retard who's purpose is to be a stupid parrot on this forum.

Nice try, doe.

This airball got you heated, bruh. Calm down.

[sportjames23]

Only a retard like you could completely miss the point of my post and not understand to what ''right there with Jordan in the playoffs'' was directed to. To top it all there's a certain picture being quoted like 10 times and you still don't get it and start talking about the rings. Yeah, you're just a useless retard who's purpose is to be a stupid parrot on this forum.

Nice try, doe.


You had no point, kid. Your stinks it up in the playoffs and idiots like you still try to compare him to MJ. That train left town years ago, but you twats still cling to it.

Sit your clown ass down, ****tard.

[coin24]

Only a retard like you could completely miss the point of my post and not understand to what ''right there with Jordan in the playoffs'' was directed to. To top it all there's a certain picture being quoted like 10 times and you still don't get it and start talking about the rings. Yeah, you're just a useless retard who's purpose is to be a stupid parrot on this forum.

Nice try, doe.


What's wrong pauk? Too ashamed to use your account or your Nash account?:lol
Did bran embarrass you that badly yesterday? Thought you'd be used to it by now, 5-47:lol :lol :lol

[Hey Yo]

Only a retard like you could completely miss the point of my post and not understand to what ''right there with Jordan in the playoffs'' was directed to. To top it all there's a certain picture being quoted like 10 times and you still don't get it and start talking about the rings. Yeah, you're just a useless retard who's purpose is to be a stupid parrot on this forum.

Nice try, doe.
:roll: :roll:

completely ruined that Jordan bandwagoner.

[WindmiLL]

What's wrong pauk? Too ashamed to use your account or your Nash account?:lol
Did bran embarrass you that badly yesterday? Thought you'd be used to it by now, 5-47:lol :lol :lol


lol I'm not pauk neither am I Jameer or Lebron23 which I was called before :oldlol:

Guess I can't say anything pro-Lebron on here, I'm immediately someones alter

[zizozain]

5-47

[sportjames23]

:roll: :roll:

completely ruined that Jordan bandwagoner.


Look at this nugget following that turd. :oldlol:

[Chokefree]

Henry shutting this thread down:applause: :applause:
You and Henry are the same person....calm down

[WindmiLL]

You had no point, kid. Your stinks it up in the playoffs and idiots like you still try to compare him to MJ. That train left town years ago, but you twats still cling to it.

Sit your clown ass down, ****tard.


Look at this ****ing retard still comparing Lebron and MJ in all other aspects except about the one which is shown and talked about in this thread.

What's not clear to you about this picture? Lebron is right there next to Jordan when it comes to this specific scenario and you talk about rings and all other shit. You're so deep in MJ ass that you can't even see what's right in front of you and it looks like you're mentally ill too.


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[Mr. Jabbar]

You and Henry are the same person....calm down

:roll:

[G.U.S.]

You and Henry are the same person....calm down


I wouldn't have made this G.U.S. account after the Gus Hemmingway account was banned if I had a Henry Garfunkle account on standby. :hammerhead:

[coin24]

lol I'm not pauk neither am I Jameer or Lebron23 which I was called before :oldlol:

Guess I can't say anything pro-Lebron on here, I'm immediately someones alter


Well you come across as dumb as pauk:lol

[tmacattack33]

Highly misleading...in this situation, about half of these shots are three point attempts when down by three points.

So they are highly contested three point shots.

Lebron's not a good three point shooter, we already knew this. So you're taking the stats of his worst ability, i can do the same for any GOAT.

League average would be around 22% for these shots (2's and 3's combined).

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&player_id=&year_id=2015&is_playoffs=N&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q1=&q2=&q3=&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=0&time_remain_seconds=5&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=&margin_max=&is_tying=Y&is_go_ahead=Y&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg&order_by_asc=&offset=0

[NBASTATMAN]

KOBE VS LEBRON

https://mobile.twitter.com/vanrynmichael/status/703431651116847104/photo/1



I TOLD YOU THEY BOTH WERE OVERRATED.. WE ARE SEEING TRUE GREATNESS WITH CURRY:rockon: :bowdown:

[tmacattack33]

KOBE VS LEBRON

https://mobile.twitter.com/vanrynmichael/status/703431651116847104/photo/1



I TOLD YOU THEY BOTH WERE OVERRATED.. WE ARE SEEING TRUE GREATNESS WITH CURRY:rockon: :bowdown:


What is Curry's rate on this?

Just wondering, because a lot of people don't even think about the situation and just assume that a good FG% on these shots would be 50% and anything below 40% is terrible.

When in reality, many of these shots are desperation three pointers when down by 3 and the defense expects a three...which is damn near impossible to make.

And so the league average on such shots (2 pointer and 3 pointers combined, to tie or take lead, with less than 24 seconds left in the game) is around 25%.

If Curry's is anything above 35%, i'd be impressed.

[LARRY BROWN]

last night he he took a step back three pointer.looked awful!
just as bad as that three ponter that cost us the game last year in the finals!:lebroncry:

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Oops!

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this

[BeastMode24]

lebron now least clutch player statistically in final 5 seconds after Crawford's game winner tonight. :oldlol: