Does the Chris Christie endorsement help or hurt Trump?

[FillJackson]

On one hand, this is signal the GOP mainstream that there is not going to be a unified stance against Trump. Now that one person has done it, others don't risk being first and you negotiate a better deal now, so it give others incentives to step forward.


On the other hand, this makes Trump look conventional and Christie is not a popular guy (http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/chris-christie-favorable-rating) and he is best known for the massively stupid Bridgegate scandal that makes him look incredibly petty. So he's taking on Christie's liabilities and undercutting his own message at the same time.

[Patrick Chewing]

This fat tub of lard is a hypocrite. He's on record saying that Trump is not a serious candidate and lacks the experience for the job, and here he is today endorsing the guy. It's clear that twinkie-huffin slob has sold his soul.



http://twitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/obama-christie-beach-walk.jpg

[Nick Young]

Chris Christie is awesome, he also made his reputation as the Scrubio killer. Christie as VP will cement the downfall of Scrubio and the illegal presidential candidate Cruz.

[Nick Young]

This fat tub of lard is a hypocrite. He's on record saying that Trump is not a serious candidate and lacks the experience for the job, and here he is today endorsing the guy. It's clear that twinkie-huffin slob has sold his soul.



http://twitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/obama-christie-beach-walk.jpg
That just means that Trump proved him wrong, and he was man enough to admit it.

[navy]

It does nothing

[FillJackson]

nobody's on board with the scrubio thing.

[Nick Young]

Ricky Scrubio RIP
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[DonDadda59]

It does nothing

This. Only Jersey scumbags would be swayed by anything Governor Krispy Kreme says. So I guess Trump just locked down the Jersey organized crime vote. :applause:

[Nick Young]

This. Only Jersey scumbags would be swayed by anything Governor Krispy Kreme says. So I guess Trump just locked down the Jersey organized crime vote. :applause:
Jersey, the home of Bon Jovi and Bruce Springsteen and Henry Hill. It is America's true heartland, trust an elitist democrat class bigot to not recognize the importance of controlling the state that represents the soul of America's working class.

[DonDadda59]

Jersey, the home of Bon Jovi and Bruce Springsteen and Henry Hill. It is America's true heartland, trust an elitist democrat class bigot to not recognize the importance of controlling the state that represents the soul of America's working class.

Henry Hill was born in Brooklyn and did his dirt in Queens. Jersey = America's armpit.

You ever been to Jersey? :confusedshrug:

[Nick Young]

Henry Hill was born in Brooklyn and did his dirt in Queens. Jersey = America's armpit.

You ever been to Jersey? :confusedshrug:
No but I saw it across the river when I was in New York City. It looked pretty ballin, and even though Henry was born in Brooklyn he is pure Jersey at heart.


New Jersey=America's heart and soul
http://harkthesoundblog.web.unc.edu/files/2015/11/518b82e2.jpg
America's greatest living poet and voice of his generation has Jersey as his primary muse and inspiration. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRXhDQXhdXE)


Also do not forget the popularity of Jersey Shore. Jerseyites represent all of America in a way people from other states never can.

[DonDadda59]

No but I saw it across the river when I was in New York City. It looked pretty ballin, and even though Henry was born in Brooklyn he is pure Jersey at heart.


New Jersey=America's heart and soul
http://harkthesoundblog.web.unc.edu/files/2015/11/518b82e2.jpg

Think about what kind of place would make Chris Christie their governor in the first place.

There's nothing but factories in Jersey and all they produce is crime and misery.


Also do not forget the popularity of Jersey Shore.

Perfect example of the sort of douchebaggery that only the armpit of America could produce.

http://thisisyork.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Jersey-Shore-Cast21.jpg

Might as well change their State motto to 'Hell on Earth'

[Nick Young]

Think about what kind of place would make Chris Christie their governor in the first place.

There's nothing but factories in Jersey and all they produce is crime and misery.
You know what the trouble is, Donnie? We used to make shit in this country, build shit. Now we just put our hand in the next guy's pocket.

The empty factories are a sad symbol of America's former greatness. Lettuce fill those factories again and bring the jobs back to Jersey and out of China!

Some people do jobs that no one wants to do but need to be done. That is New Jersey. That is why they represent the heart and soul of our great nation.

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[FillJackson]

Henry Hill was born in Brooklyn and did his dirt in Queens. Yeah, Trump is more Henry Hill. Born in Queens, made his money in Brooklyn and then went 5th Ave.

[Nick Young]

Yeah, Trump is more Henry Hill. Born in Queens, made his money in Brooklyn and then went 5th Ave.
He is a true embodiment of the American dream:rockon:

[FillJackson]

This fat tub of lard is a hypocrite. He's on record saying that Trump is not a serious candidate and lacks the experience for the job, and here he is today endorsing the guy. It's clear that twinkie-huffin slob has sold his soul.
This. Only Jersey scumbags would be swayed by anything Governor Krispy Kreme says. So I guess Trump just locked down the Jersey organized crime vote. :applause:
I not talking about the what people think of Christie because he endorsed Trump.

but what people think of Trump for getting close to Christie.

[Nick Young]

People respect Trump for choosing to align with a noble man who represents the common American to a T-Chris Christie.

There are rumblings in the democratic camp that they will not be able to overcome a Trump/Christie alliance.

[bladefd]

I not talking about the what people think of Christie because he endorsed Trump.

but what people think of Trump for getting close to Christie.

Trump is trying to draw the image that he has support of the moderates, which Christie is seen as. Trump already got the endorsement of a far right tea party person in Sarah Palin. Trump wants to be seen as having the support of both the extreme right and the moderate. That can only help Trump because now he can say he has support of different GOP subgroups. Once he wins GOP nomination, I have a feeling he will attempt to find a moderate on the Democrat/Independent side for endorsement to prepare for general election.

It is all about drawing a certain image from Trump's perspective. From Christie's perspective, Christie is getting something in return - possibly a position in Trump's cabinet if Trump wins. I am sure Trump approached Christie because he knows he can use Christie to reach more moderates. Christie is such a blowhard that he would never reach out to Trump on his own (I live in NJ so I know how Christie deals with people in his state - he is a dick unless if he gets something out of it).

In the end, it can only help or ultimately do nothing depending on how he spins it but it won't hurt him.

[Nick Young]

Trump is trying to draw the image that he has support of the moderates, which Christie is seen as. Trump already got the endorsement of a far right tea party person in Sarah Palin.
He's not "trying". He already has it.

You are sticking your head in the sand if you don't realize this yet.

[BoutPractice]

New Jersey boss pledges allegiance to New York Don...

Is this a presidential election or a Sopranos rerun?

But yeah, of course it helps Donaldo. Now that voters have sent their message, the establishment is going to come out of the closet as Trump supporters faster than most can comprehend.

He was always the potential establishment candidate, not the insurgent, and this is what pundits have gotten wrong from the start.

[bladefd]

He's not "trying". He already has it.

You are sticking your head in the sand if you don't realize this yet.

No. If he wants to beat Hillary in the general election, he needs a moderate independent to draw more independents. Independents are more pro-Clinton than pro-Trump this election so Trump is not winning without more independents. So a breakdown..

Far right > Trump
Moderate GOP > Trump
Moderate independent > Trump widely unpopular thus far, Clinton more popular in this area (see link below)
Moderate Democrat > Clinton
Far left > Clinton

Keep in mind there are more registered Democrats than Republicans as well so Clinton still has the advantage unless if Trump can win over the Moderate independents & shift the tides further.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-is-really-unpopular-with-general-election-voters/

[Nick Young]

No. If he wants to beat Hillary in the general election, he needs a moderate independent to draw more independents. Independents are more pro-Clinton than pro-Trump this election so Trump is not winning without more independents. So a breakdown..

Far right > Trump
Moderate GOP > Trump
Moderate independent > Trump widely unpopular thus far, Clinton more popular in this area (see link below)
Moderate Democrat > Clinton
Far left > Clinton

Keep in mind there are more registered Democrats than Republicans as well so Clinton still has the advantage unless if Trump can win over the Moderate independents & shift the tides further.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-is-really-unpopular-with-general-election-voters/
You're starting to sound pretty desperate bro.

[bladefd]

You're starting to sound pretty desperate bro.

Is that the best you have? An attack? Let's see you address that argument with your ideas.

[Nick Young]

Is that the best you have? An attack? Let's see you address that argument with your ideas.
No need to get defensive bro :cheers:

Was just saying you sound a bit twitchy and strained. Hope you're feeling ok :cheers:

[BoutPractice]

bladefd > The flaw in this theory is to assume that moderate independents won't go for Trump.

(As well as assuming that voters are drawn from fixed categories like "moderate GOP", whereas many of Trump's supporters are either people who didn't vote before or former Democrats)

Independents typically dislike corruption and like leaders who make deals and "get things done".

They may come to believe that Trump, while himself a part of the corruption, is strong enough to change the system from within, whereas Hillary is entirely beholden to the donor class.

Trump is also notoriously fluid in his political ideas. Assuming independents are centrists (which isn't always the case anyway, at least not in the pundit sense of the term), he can move there anytime he wants without appearing as a flip-flopper because he's now built this reputation as a straight talker. Due to his well-established brand, Trump has the unique advantage of being able to hold just about any position he wants without suffering the consequences most politicians would have to deal with.

It's a brilliant strategy and odds are, it'll work. Need to make his economic plan sound a little less like another massive giveaway to the rich? Deal. Reassure voters that he's not a bigot (with bigots still hearing things that make them think he's one of them?) Deal. Make himself appear like a sane, sober commander-in-chief in waiting and not someone who'll escalate fights with Mexico and China? Deal. He can do that anytime he wants.

The minute Trump wins the nomination, the Archie Bunker act ends, and the deal-maker persona makes a comeback. Ain't pretty, but it just might get the job done.

Of course Clinton's strategy won't be pretty either - it'll all be about fear of a Trump presidency, since she's not that well-liked herself. And of course, the more she plays upon those fears, the more Trump will try to seem reassuring...

Add a recession here, an email or some other scandal there, and his path to the WH is much more credible than Democratic partisans assume.

[Trollsmasher]

long term? probably not

short term however, it managed to divert the attention from Trump's "poor' debate performance

his campaign has always been about controlling the 24/7 news cycle and this is just another step

[falc39]

It's hilarious that Christie is still relevant after the bridge scandal. Really, any candidate should run from getting his endorsement. Christie is representative of the type of politician that the GOP needs to purge itself of. Like Hillary, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in jail someday.

[Real Men Wear Green]

It's hilarious that Christie is still relevant after the bridge scandal. Really, any candidate should run from getting his endorsement. Christie is representative of the type of politician that the GOP needs to purge itself of. Like Hillary, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in jail someday.What's funny to me about Republicans is that they're much angrier with Christie for standing by Obama after Hurricane Sandy than they are about Bridgegate. The pictures of Christie with Obama absolutely killed his shot at the presidency when in reality working with Obama to heal the damage to his state is possibly the best example of Christie doing his job. He had a responsibility to Jersey to get all the help he could, and they'll never forgive him for it.

[JohnFreeman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL9Gx9CgYDU

[Patrick Chewing]

his campaign has always been about controlling the 24/7 news cycle and this is just another step


This x 1000


The less they show of this pompous ass on TV with his insults and funny faces, the better it will be for the other candidates.

The low-IQ voter just sees him on TV pointing fingers and getting mad and acting like a chimp and they actually think he's for a cause.

He's a fraud. A clown.

[Stout]

It helps him, because he will get a large portion of Christie's supporters. Nobody who already liked Trump is suddenly not going to because of this endorsement.

[Draz]

It helps him, because he will get a large portion of Christie's supporters. Nobody who already liked Trump is suddenly not going to because of this endorsement.
:lol What supporters

[ALBballer]

This x 1000


The less they show of this pompous ass on TV with his insults and funny faces, the better it will be for the other candidates.

The low-IQ voter just sees him on TV pointing fingers and getting mad and acting like a chimp and they actually think he's for a cause.

He's a fraud. A clown.

Trump is no more than a fraud then any other politician running other than Bernie Sanders who I think is a genuine person. Only difference with Trump and the other candidates including Clinton is he doesn't give a shit and is blunt and straight to the point.

[Draz]

Trump is no more than a fraud then any other politician running other than Bernie Sanders who I think is a genuine person. Only difference with Trump and the other candidates including Clinton is he doesn't give a shit and is blunt and straight to the point.
He doesn't give a shit.. lol. He's a business man. World class business man. That's his attitude. He knows nothing about politics. He isn't a politician. He has no background. It's like Apple hiring their accountant to be the CEO.

[longhornfan1234]

Trump is no more than a fraud then any other politician running other than Bernie Sanders who I think is a genuine person. Only difference with Trump and the other candidates including Clinton is he doesn't give a shit and is blunt and straight to the point.


Yep... what makes Rubio any better? He has no back bone. He's another big government establishment candidate. He just wants to increase spending. Trump, Rubio, and Hilary are clowns.

[ALBballer]

He doesn't give a shit.. lol. He's a business man. World class business man. That's his attitude. He knows nothing about politics. He isn't a politician. He has no background. It's like Apple hiring their accountant to be the CEO.

Plenty of accountants have become CEOs bruh :D but I get your point. Personally I don't think the president should have a deep understanding in all matters and they should use their staff and consultants for most issues.

If you are using his background against him then Bernie's background isn't that remarkeable either. The guy was pretty much what Trump would refer to a "loser" before he got elected in the house of Representatives in his 40s. He was pretty much a failed commie until becoming governor and then a member of Congress.

Also I have seen people criticize Trump for his bankruptcies and the money his father gave him but not many poeple mention that Bernie Sanders is one of the poorest congressmen in terms of net worth. Bernie has consistently made over $100k in the past 25 years and has a net worth of only $300k which is pitiful. Even if you go under the assumption "he's not corrupt and he doesn't take lobbyist money" his net worth should be alot more with that type of salary. Part of me believes his socialist view transcend into his personal life.

[FillJackson]

He knows nothing about politics. He isn't a politician..
He certainly doesn't anything about foreign policy.

He promised to release the names of his foreign policy advisors.......one of his very few concrete promises..... and has yet to do so.

[Nick Young]

He doesn't give a shit.. lol. He's a business man. World class business man. That's his attitude. He knows nothing about politics. He isn't a politician. He has no background. It's like Apple hiring their accountant to be the CEO.
Politics and being a business man are the exact same shit. All of skills of being a successful business man at a head of a company directly translate in to politics.


What do you think Trump would not be capable of doing as president?

[Nick Young]

He certainly doesn't anything about foreign policy.

He promised to release the names of his foreign policy advisors.......one of his very few concrete promises..... and has yet to do so.
why do you think this?

A man who has done international business deals with politicians and business men all over the world doesn't know foreign policy?:hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

The dems are absolutely shook that Trump has this momentum while their own golden establishment girl Shillary is failing hard.

[TheMan]

This x 1000


The less they show of this pompous ass on TV with his insults and funny faces, the better it will be for the other candidates.

The low-IQ voter just sees him on TV pointing fingers and getting mad and acting like a chimp and they actually think he's for a cause.

He's a fraud. A clown.
I knew you'd eventually come around :cheers:

We've been telling you that he's trolling the GOP.

If the GOP are too stupid or scared to derail this troll, he's going to do so much damage that'll take a generation or two to fix :oldlol:

[DonDadda59]

If the GOP are too stupid or scared to derail this troll, he's going to do so much damage that'll take a generation or two to fix :oldlol:

http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/adam/6997c11a9daecc864f0e63aa328158fd/tumblr_mlum31RdOW1rjxj9ko1_400.gif

Don't listen to this man. He's probably an illegal Muslim immigrant here to steal your job and get you hooked on heroin.

Trump is the people's champion. Our savior. He's here to shake up the establishment and root out the corruption in the GOP.

A vote for Trump is a vote to make America great again.

https://img0.etsystatic.com/075/1/8376714/il_570xN.809993148_du0c.jpg

[TheMan]

Plenty of accountants have become CEOs bruh :D but I get your point. Personally I don't think the president should have a deep understanding in all matters and they should use their staff and consultants for most issues.

If you are using his background against him then Bernie's background isn't that remarkeable either. The guy was pretty much what Trump would refer to a "loser" before he got elected in the house of Representatives in his 40s. He was pretty much a failed commie until becoming governor and then a member of Congress.

Also I have seen people criticize Trump for his bankruptcies and the money his father gave him but not many people mention that Bernie Sanders is one of the poorest congressmen in terms of net worth. Bernie has consistently made over $100k in the past 25 years and has a net worth of only $300k which is pitiful. Even if you go under the assumption "he's not corrupt and he doesn't take lobbyist money" his net worth should be alot more with that type of salary. Part of me believes his socialist view transcend into his personal life.
:facepalm:

You know money controls our politics waaaay to much when a guy making 100k a year a worth almost half a million is considered poor :rolleyes:

First, we don't know what he does with his money (maybe he donates it to charity) and it isn't none of our business.

Personally, I think we would be much better off if our politicians weren't all millionaires but it seems like too many people don't like losers (non-millionaires) in any capacity in politics.

It'd be nice if we all could get 200 million dollar inheritance :coleman:

[FillJackson]

why do you think this?I think this because he didn't know who the leader of Al Qaeda is.

I think this because of every time he talks about foreign policy.

I think this because he doesn't understand American history and American values when he endorses torture.

I think this because of this clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6zk31iNtHs

I say this because he used talk about how Japan was a major, major threat to us.

I say this, because he hardly knows about the economy which is much closer to his area of expertise.

[Nick Young]

I think this because he didn't know who the leader of Al Qaeda is.

I think this because of every time he talks about foreign policy.

I think this because he doesn't understand American history and American values when he endorses torture.

I think this because of this clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6zk31iNtHs

I say this because he used talk about how Japan was a major, major threat to us.

I say this, because he hardly knows about the economy which is much closer to his area of expertise.
How do you know what Donald Trump knows? :confusedshrug:

Are you Jean Gray? :confusedshrug:

[FillJackson]

How do you know what Donald Trump knows? :confusedshrug:
Are you claiming he is lying about everything? That he really knows who the head of Al Qaeda is?

[ALBballer]

:facepalm:

You know money controls our politics waaaay to much when a guy making 100k a year a worth almost half a million is considered poor :rolleyes:

First, we don't know what he does with his money (maybe he donates it to charity) and it isn't none of our business.

Personally, I think we would be much better off if our politicians weren't all millionaires but it seems like too many people don't like losers (non-millionaires) in any capacity in politics.

It'd be nice if we all could get 200 million dollar inheritance :coleman:

It is pretty poor considering his salary. I am almost 50 years younger than Sanders, don't make anything close to what he makes and my net worth is comparable. His tax returns he released indicate he donated something like 4% of his salary to charity and most of that was from the book deal IIRC.

I'm not saying he should have a networth of $200 million but Bernie Sanders at his age and at his salary should have a networth of $2-3 million dollars if he had any sort of money management skills and invested some of his money. A net worth of $300-$500k indicates he is either not reporting all of his assets, has given all of his money to his children or his money management skills are poor.

[Nick Young]

Are you claiming he is lying about everything? That he really knows who the head of Al Qaeda is?
I think considering the circles he's run in and the global connections he has, Trump sure as **** has a better chance of knowing who the head of Al Qaeda is compared to Hillary or Scrubio or Cruz.


Remember, the US government has been kissing the Saudi's asses for decades now. Where do you think Al Qaeda is getting their primary funding from?

[FillJackson]

I think considering the circles he's run in and the global connections he has, Trump sure as **** has a better chance of knowing who the head of Al Qaeda is compared to Hillary or Scrubio or Cruz.

Yeah, but you think all kinds of goofy shit. AND Trump didn't know.

[Nick Young]

Yeah, but you think all kinds of goofy shit. AND Trump didn't know.
How do you know what Trump knows? It is goofy to pretend you can read peoples minds.

[FillJackson]

How do you know what Trump knows? It is goofy to pretend you can read peoples minds.He couldn't answer when asked.

[Dresta]

Whatever Trump may or may not know, at least he's not armed Al-Qaeda allies and affiliates like Barry O (and also aided them by creating a jihadist safe-haven in Libya--though Hilary was apparently the mastermind of this one). One of the few things Trump has been spot on about is our need to stop flooding these areas with weapons.