View Full Version : Warriors would beat the 96 Bulls
JtotheIzzo
02-28-2016, 02:06 AM
That Bulls team lost multiple games to the Sonics. These Warriors would destroy that Seattle team.
Here the rub though:
Wennington and Longley would never see the floor (except when Bigut plays) and the middle will be a lot more spacious allowing the line-up of Dray, Klay, Steph, Iggy and Barnes to get to the rim.
Either of those two centers get eviscerated on the P&R. So, no PT for them, the Bulls have to go small.
The Bulls would counter with MJ, Harper, Pip, Kukoc, and Rodman. Not enough shooting there to stretch the floor and the Warriors could switch everything making their defense the best the Bulls would have faced.
Iggy, Dray and Barnes are all incredibly effective on both ends of the floor, a lot of rim 2s for your 3-5 players and a smothering switching defense neutering the triangle. Also MJ is likely the best post up player on the Bulls small ball lineup so he will be inside a lot in the triangle negating some of his greatness.
And this Bulls small ball line up is a poor shooting one from 3. Steve Kerr will need to play at least 20 minutes and maybe more, he can't stay in front of anyone on the Warriors.
Coach Kerr would exploit player Kerr.
Warriors in 6
Smoke117
02-28-2016, 02:10 AM
The Bulls went up 3-0 over the Sonics with a Scottie Pippen at 70% and then eased up on the gas...but okay.
deja vu
02-28-2016, 02:12 AM
Do you have any lottery numbers?
I.R.Beast
02-28-2016, 02:12 AM
In a regular season game maybe, but not playoffs.
Spurs m8
02-28-2016, 02:21 AM
They would not win a playoff series against the Bulls tbh
imdaman99
02-28-2016, 02:25 AM
I doubt it, but we will never know.
tamaraw08
02-28-2016, 02:45 AM
That Bulls team lost multiple games to the Sonics. These Warriors would destroy that Seattle team.
Here the rub though:
Wennington and Longley would never see the floor (except when Bigut plays) and the middle will be a lot more spacious allowing the line-up of Dray, Klay, Steph, Iggy and Barnes to get to the rim.
Either of those two centers get eviscerated on the P&R. So, no PT for them, the Bulls have to go small.
The Bulls would counter with MJ, Harper, Pip, Kukoc, and Rodman. Not enough shooting there to stretch the floor and the Warriors could switch everything making their defense the best the Bulls would have faced.
Iggy, Dray and Barnes are all incredibly effective on both ends of the floor, a lot of rim 2s for your 3-5 players and a smothering switching defense neutering the triangle. Also MJ is likely the best post up player on the Bulls small ball lineup so he will be inside a lot in the triangle negating some of his greatness.
And this Bulls small ball line up is a poor shooting one from 3. Steve Kerr will need to play at least 20 minutes and maybe more, he can't stay in front of anyone on the Warriors.
Coach Kerr would exploit player Kerr.
Warriors in 6
Coach Kerr, I find it amazing how you left out coach Phil Jackson and Tex Winter. :rolleyes:
We forget how Rodman would gobble up 18 rebs/game, how strong and great MJ and Scottie's defense. How smart Harper was.
Let's not forget too that this same GSW was losing 2-1 vs the old and injured Grizzlies and Cavs minus Kyrie and Love.
OKC played hard but careless basketball tonight. :hammerhead:
Harison
02-28-2016, 02:47 AM
Haha, no.
Bless Mathews
02-28-2016, 02:50 AM
Mj and pip would put the clamps on curry and klay.
People forget mj was goat defender.
There's no way he would let someone show him up.
He's the alphas of all alphas.
FKAri
02-28-2016, 02:57 AM
Mj and pip would put the clamps on curry and klay.
People forget mj was goat defender.
There's no way he would let someone show him up.
He's the alphas of all alphas.
No one can control who does or doesn't show them up.
Bulls would win the series because by 96 they had a huge experience advantage over the Warriors.
kamil
02-28-2016, 03:18 AM
No one can control who does or doesn't show them up.
Bulls would win the series because by 96 they had a huge experience advantage over the Warriors.
MJ shows up. He always did, hence 6/6.
Kawhi
02-28-2016, 03:25 AM
Rodman would average over 30 boards for the series if the Warriors went small, that is all I am sure about.
JtotheIzzo
02-28-2016, 03:48 AM
Mj and pip would put the clamps on curry and klay.
People forget mj was goat defender.
There's no way he would let someone show him up.
He's the alphas of all alphas.
No one forgets MJ was a great defender.
With MJ and Pippen "shutting down" (not easy with 28ft range) Klay and Steph it really limits their effectiveness defensively as they are 30 feet from the hoop and not ball hawking the passing lanes.
This leaves Harper on Barnes (mismatch)
Rodman on Dray and Kukoc on Iggy (mismatch)
Also, Rodman's rebounds would be limited because this GSW team would be all about 3s (long boards) and rim 2s. Not much there for defacto 5 Rodman to scoop up. And how much hungrier is he than Dray?
On defense, GSW can switch all five guys and with no real post or 3pt threat they can hedge on Jordan.
Bulls have issues against this team
NBASTATMAN
02-28-2016, 03:49 AM
Bulls would beat this team with MJ and Harper at the Guard positions... Though it would be insane to watch them go at it
Bless Mathews
02-28-2016, 04:57 AM
No one forgets MJ was a great defender.
With MJ and Pippen "shutting down" (not easy with 28ft range) Klay and Steph it really limits their effectiveness defensively as they are 30 feet from the hoop and not ball hawking the passing lanes.
This leaves Harper on Barnes (mismatch)
Rodman on Dray and Kukoc on Iggy (mismatch)
Also, Rodman's rebounds would be limited because this GSW team would be all about 3s (long boards) and rim 2s. Not much there for defacto 5 Rodman to scoop up. And how much hungrier is he than Dray?
On defense, GSW can switch all five guys and with no real post or 3pt threat they can hedge on Jordan.
Bulls have issues against this team
Jordan would take over.
You really don't realize how alpha he was.
He would take it personal.
Kinda like the 92 finals when there was whispers that Clyde drexler might be the best shooting guard in the league.
The goat went absolutely ape shit and raped them.
No one will ever even come close to having the will, the drive, that mj had.
You just can't draw that up.
oh the horror
02-28-2016, 05:37 AM
The OP should be banned. This board has lost its god damn mind.
Even if they beat the Bulls record you forgot that team or haven't watched them play. Stop :oldlol:
Spurs m8
02-28-2016, 05:41 AM
But but but, they've won one championship!!!! GOATS
Kobe_6/8
02-28-2016, 07:19 AM
Rodman's rebounds would be limited because this GSW team would be all about 3s (long boards) and rim 2s. Not much there for defacto 5 Rodman to scoop up. And how much hungrier is he than Dray?
Rodman is the GOAT all-around rebounder, "The Worm". He is by far the best rebounder on the floor in this matchup, no matter what style the Warriors play.
How much hungrier is he than Dray? :lol
In 1996, Rodman was fresh off losing the Western Conference Finals. Now he was playing with Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen. The 2x champ with the 'Bad Boy' Pistons was hungrier than Dray.
JtotheIzzo
02-28-2016, 07:29 AM
Rodman is the GOAT all-around rebounder, "The Worm". He is by far the best rebounder on the floor in this matchup, no matter what style the Warriors play.
How much hungrier is he than Dray? :lol
In 1996, Rodman was fresh off losing the Western Conference Finals. Now he was playing with Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen. The 2x champ with the 'Bad Boy' Pistons was hungrier than Dray.
So Draymond is nothing.
I actually like Draymond right now better than Bulls Rodman.
Yes, Rodman is a better rebounder, but also a a liability on offense.
Also, Draymond is a top 5 MVP cadidate this year, has Rodman ever been to that level? No he is a rebound specialist with great D.
And all this shit about Jordan's great defense, we know, I watched it, but the Warriors were the best deensive team in the league last year, they aren't slouches.
And my main point is Warriors are a bad matchup for the Bulls, and the Bulls are much weaker 3-9 than the Warriors are.
Funny how Utah and Seattle can take the Bulls deep into a series but the Warriors would get smoked.
The fck out with that.
Bawkish
02-28-2016, 07:37 AM
So Draymond is nothing.
I actually like Draymond right now better than Bulls Rodman.
Yes, Rodman is a better rebounder, but also a a liability on offense.
Also, Draymond is a top 5 MVP cadidate this year, has Rodman ever been to that level? No he is a rebound specialist with great D.
And all this shit about Jordan's great defense, we know, I watched it, but the Warriors were the best deensive team in the league last year, they aren't slouches.
And my main point is Warriors are a bad matchup for the Bulls, and the Bulls are much weaker 3-9 than the Warriors are.
Funny how Utah and Seattle can take the Bulls deep into a series but the Warriors would get smoked.
The fck out with that.
the defense were different back then, they're tougher, more physical
not only its exhausting physically but also mentally because continous physicality tends to sway your mindset especially if they really being rough on you
The Bulls were the best full/half court pressers in terms of defense. Pip/MJ/RonHarp were like dobermans hounding you, taking turns
JtotheIzzo
02-28-2016, 07:59 AM
the defense were different back then, they're tougher, more physical
not only its exhausting physically but also mentally because continous physicality tends to sway your mindset especially if they really being rough on you
The Bulls were the best full/half court pressers in terms of defense. Pip/MJ/RonHarp were like dobermans hounding you, taking turns
Pippen and Jordan were, Harper was a post ACL reclamation, he was not the All Star he was in Cleveland nor nearly as athletic as he was pre-ACL.
But please stop it with the mentally tough nineties teams were so rough shit. The Warriors aren't mentally tough?
The Bulls were never a physical team in their era, the Pistons beat them down until the Bulls summoned the courage to look past the violence.
Arguing the Bulls as being so much tougher is dishonest to a degree, they played in a tougher era but they were more finesse than force.
Im Still Ballin
02-28-2016, 08:07 AM
Warriors win in 5-6 games
Stylistic nightmare
T_L_P
02-28-2016, 08:09 AM
the defense were different back then, they're tougher, more physical
not only its exhausting physically but also mentally because continous physicality tends to sway your mindset especially if they really being rough on you
The Bulls were the best full/half court pressers in terms of defense. Pip/MJ/RonHarp were like dobermans hounding you, taking turns
And trying to full court press the Warriors (or any NBA team today) would be disaster.
All Curry has to do is get one extra step and it's either a lob to his bigs or an open three for his wings.
This whole questions depends on the rules. The Warriors would leave Rodman open (like they did Allen last year) to double MJ at all times. The Bulls wouldn't be able to handcheck and the players would have a hard time adjusting the free-flowing rules.
And no, MJ wouldn't be able to guard Curry, today's rules or 96 rules. Curry is too small, and people are straight-up lying if they think defenders don't put on hands on his all game (essentially hand-checking).
Old rules, Bulls win.
Then again, that shortened 3-pt line.
Bawkish
02-28-2016, 08:11 AM
Pippen and Jordan were, Harper was a post ACL reclamation, he was not the All Star he was in Cleveland nor nearly as athletic as he was pre-ACL.
But please stop it with the mentally tough nineties teams were so rough shit. The Warriors aren't mentally tough?
The Bulls were never a physical team in their era, the Pistons pened them until the Bulls summoned the courage to look past the violence.
Arguing the Bulls as being so much tougher is dishonest to a degree, they played in a tougher era but they were more finesse than force.
clearly you haven't seen their rivalry with the Knicks and Zo's Heat to say that they're aren't physical. They were never as brutal as Detrot Bad Boys but they were physically imposing defensively.
GSW mental toughness can't be measured by a measly one regular season game. Playoffs are different. Not saying they're mentally weak but a tough competitive series could be a good measuring stick
JebronLames
02-28-2016, 08:22 AM
Jordan would take over.
You really don't realize how alpha he was.
He would take it personal.
Kinda like the 92 finals when there was whispers that Clyde drexler might be the best shooting guard in the league.
The goat went absolutely ape shit and raped them.
No one will ever even come close to having the will, the drive, that mj had.
You just can't draw that up.
Lol warriors would win in 4-5 games. Try using logic. Stop watching super hero movies and living in a fantasy world.
diamenz
02-28-2016, 10:10 PM
it would be a series for the ages, that's for sure.
G-train
02-28-2016, 10:13 PM
who knows.
Marchesk
02-28-2016, 10:13 PM
I'm trying to understand why the Sonics wouldn't be a good matchup against the Warriors. They had great perimeter defense, were a prolific 3 point shooting team, Kemp would be a matchup problem, and you put Payton on Curry. The Sonics were also deep.
CAstill
02-28-2016, 10:18 PM
I'm trying to understand why the Sonics wouldn't be a good matchup against the Warriors. They had great perimeter defense, were a prolific 3 point shooting team, Kemp would be a matchup problem, and you put Payton on Curry. The Sonics were also deep.
Was just about to come in and destroy these fools. Payton would clamp down Curry and Kemp would be unstoppable. Detlef, hawkins, Perkins all lighting up warriors with their own medicine.
LARRY BROWN
02-28-2016, 10:20 PM
Warriors win in 5-6 games
Stylistic nightmare
they would pressure curry with double teams
Jordan pippen would be all over curry!!!!!!!
Jordan would shut down thompsn
pippen would shut down iggy!
bulls would spread the floor and kill these little guys or go small
kerr
Jordan
pippen
kukoc
rodman
bulls would sweep these no defensive ******s!:biggums:
The Bulls went up 3-0 over the Sonics with a Scottie Pippen at 70% and then eased up on the gas...but okay.I was really young when that series happened but I remember thinking, they dropped those two games so they can win Game 6 in Chicago. I still feel the same way about it
LARRY BROWN
02-28-2016, 10:24 PM
And trying to full court press the Warriors (or any NBA team today) would be disaster.
All Curry has to do is get one extra step and it's either a lob to his bigs or an open three for his wings.
This whole questions depends on the rules. The Warriors would leave Rodman open (like they did Allen last year) to double MJ at all times. The Bulls wouldn't be able to handcheck and the players would have a hard time adjusting the free-flowing rules.
And no, MJ wouldn't be able to guard Curry, today's rules or 96 rules. Curry is too small, and people are straight-up lying if they think defenders don't put on hands on his all game (essentially hand-checking).
Old rules, Bulls win.
Then again, that shortened 3-pt line.
if you double Jorddan pippen would destroy you!
when pippen Jordan kukoc are in the game,you would double!
bulls would sweep this weak ass team!:biggums:
La Frescobaldi
02-28-2016, 10:49 PM
Rodman would average over 30 boards for the series if the Warriors went small, that is all I am sure about.
well not 30 because there wouldn't be that many boards available tbh. But he would have a heyday no doubt.
Dude would be a one man bee hive swarming that whole Warriors front court!!
atljonesbro
02-28-2016, 10:52 PM
The Bulls would have ZERO clue how to guard that team. I got the Warriors in 6
JtotheIzzo
02-28-2016, 10:57 PM
clearly you haven't seen their rivalry with the Knicks and Zo's Heat to say that they're aren't physical. They were never as brutal as Detrot Bad Boys but they were physically imposing defensively.
GSW mental toughness can't be measured by a measly one regular season game. Playoffs are different. Not saying they're mentally weak but a tough competitive series could be a good measuring stick
Wrong, I lived through that (I am older than you) and those Knicks and Heat teams were physical, but never 'great' teams. The Knicks second best player when they peaked was John Starks. They were physical out of necessity, and that was the only way they ad a chance against the superiorly talented Bulls was to be physical, because the BULLS WERENT PHYSICAL.
So all the talk about the Bulls being too tough for the Warriors is revisionist history to a certain degree.
It is talent on talent, and I think the Warriors shoot the ball better and have a deeper bench.
Jordan is the best player in the series, but the Bulls have no 3 point shooting, and the Warriors are making 12.9 a game vs the 96 Bulls 6.6 per game.
Bulls would need to play Kerr, Randy Brown, Jud Buechler extended minutes because Longley who played the 4th and Wennington who played the 8th most minutes would be rendered useless.
Warriors is bench is far more athletic and flexible to handle whatever the Bulls want to throw at them, but I don't really see how the Bulls can affect the tempo of the game when Curry and Thompson can catch and shoot fro distance.
Oh, just trap them...won't work, Iggy, Dray and Barnes finish too well and if you put them in 3 v 2 or 4 v 3 due to trapping they become devastating.
Warriors are a nightmare scenario for the Bulls, and outside of MJ superhero talk about drive and hunger there really isn't a basketball argument to be made.
La Frescobaldi
02-28-2016, 11:01 PM
The Bulls would have ZERO clue how to guard that team. I got the Warriors in 6
nah i have my doubts.
we had this same thread a few weeks back about the '87 Lakers and the '14 Spurs and yeah I really think San Antonio could take them in a 7 game match-up. Old@ss Duncan and all........... but if you think about it Jabbar was even older and had way seriously more mileage on his legs than Duncan.
But this as a match up of Warriors and '96 Bulls? Not so certain ground here. That Bulls squad was entirely stacked beyond almost anything we've ever seen. The myth of Mike is that he carried his teams to championships but that's all that is - myth. Those Bulls teams were excellent in every regard. Well drilled, amazing coaches, disciplined. Built to win.
I'll have to really think about this one but to me that Bulls team would beat Warriors. Now some of the other Bulls ring teams? no. But '96??
huh not so sure.
The Rodman factor is worth the full 10 Roman Legions.
Bawkish
02-29-2016, 12:59 AM
Wrong, I lived through that (I am older than you) and those Knicks and Heat teams were physical, but never 'great' teams. The Knicks second best player when they peaked was John Starks. They were physical out of necessity, and that was the only way they ad a chance against the superiorly talented Bulls was to be physical, because the BULLS WERENT PHYSICAL.
So all the talk about the Bulls being too tough for the Warriors is revisionist history to a certain degree.
It is talent on talent, and I think the Warriors shoot the ball better and have a deeper bench.
Jordan is the best player in the series, but the Bulls have no 3 point shooting, and the Warriors are making 12.9 a game vs the 96 Bulls 6.6 per game.
Bulls would need to play Kerr, Randy Brown, Jud Buechler extended minutes because Longley who played the 4th and Wennington who played the 8th most minutes would be rendered useless.
Warriors is bench is far more athletic and flexible to handle whatever the Bulls want to throw at them, but I don't really see how the Bulls can affect the tempo of the game when Curry and Thompson can catch and shoot fro distance.
Oh, just trap them...won't work, Iggy, Dray and Barnes finish too well and if you put them in 3 v 2 or 4 v 3 due to trapping they become devastating.
Warriors are a nightmare scenario for the Bulls, and outside of MJ superhero talk about drive and hunger there really isn't a basketball argument to be made.
If it's talent on talent alone then yes GSW is way deeper but then that's not all there's to it. The Bulls faced similar, if not better, deeper teams before ('93 Suns, '97-98 Jazz, '92 Blazers) and still prevailed. Each played different styles ('93 Suns were nicknamed "team of destiny" because their offense overwhelmed opponents; Blazers' inside presence; Jazz's smooth set plays) and Bulls somehow adjusted and still beat them with their brand of defense
You can't just dismissed the team that went 6/6 in the Finals and say they will have "nightmares" guarding GSW, who has won 1 title that almost got snuffed by Lebron-centered Cavs.
CAstill
02-29-2016, 01:05 AM
I was really young when that series happened but I remember thinking, they dropped those two games so they can win Game 6 in Chicago. I still feel the same way about it
You didn't understand basketball then and you still don't. It's funny because I've seen you claim you were much older over the years but yet you were young in Jordans second 3peat?
:roll:
JtotheIzzo
02-29-2016, 01:10 AM
If it's talent on talent alone then yes GSW is way deeper but then that's not all there's to it. The Bulls faced similar, if not better, deeper teams before ('93 Suns, '97-98 Jazz, '92 Blazers) and still prevailed. Each played different styles ('93 Suns were nicknamed "team of destiny" because their offense overwhelmed opponents; Blazers' inside presence; Jazz's smooth set plays) and Bulls somehow adjusted and still beat them with their brand of defense
You can't just dismissed the team that went 6/6 in the Finals and say they will have "nightmares" guarding GSW, who has won 1 title that almost got snuffed by Lebron-centered Cavs.
These are all fair points, and MJ is the GOAT, my angle is from an Xs and Os perspective, and I think I am right, if you want to bring in intangibles, then it gets closer.
But in a vacuum if these two teams had a 7 game series I think GSW would win.
Now, if they shared an era, that is a different story. MJ is GOAT, that is huge, Bulls would retool in offseason, get shooting and athleticism (cut Buechler, Simpkins, Randy Brown, Jason Caffey and sign some shooters and more athletic defenders. Keep the bigs because they will need them in the earlier rounds).
Thinking in these terms the Bulls could come back and beat GSW the next year, but as constructed '16 GSW vs '96 Bulls I really think GSW wins, for basketball reasons.
Bawkish
02-29-2016, 01:55 AM
These are all fair points, and MJ is the GOAT, my angle is from an Xs and Os perspective, and I think I am right, if you want to bring in intangibles, then it gets closer.
But in a vacuum if these two teams had a 7 game series I think GSW would win.
Now, if they shared an era, that is a different story. MJ is GOAT, that is huge, Bulls would retool in offseason, get shooting and athleticism (cut Buechler, Simpkins, Randy Brown, Jason Caffey and sign some shooters and more athletic defenders. Keep the bigs because they will need them in the earlier rounds).
Thinking in these terms the Bulls could come back and beat GSW the next year, but as constructed '16 GSW vs '96 Bulls I really think GSW wins, for basketball reasons.
But were also talking about experience here, '16 GSW only has 1 title to boot (in which they come from behind) against the team that won 3peat (at least the core team of MJ/Pip/PJax). Pat Riley confessed that no one's going to beat MJ in Finals, this coming from the one who coached Magic, clashed Bird & Zeke who among the 3 greatest Finals performers of all time. Yes Curry is having an unbelievable season for 2 years now. '06 Kobe also had this kind of hype around him before. If he & his team were able to be this consistently great for, let's say, 3-4 years then we can agree on this. But for now, it's too early to tell
G-train
02-29-2016, 02:08 AM
These are all fair points, and MJ is the GOAT, my angle is from an Xs and Os perspective, and I think I am right, if you want to bring in intangibles, then it gets closer.
But in a vacuum if these two teams had a 7 game series I think GSW would win.
Now, if they shared an era, that is a different story. MJ is GOAT, that is huge, Bulls would retool in offseason, get shooting and athleticism (cut Buechler, Simpkins, Randy Brown, Jason Caffey and sign some shooters and more athletic defenders. Keep the bigs because they will need them in the earlier rounds).
Thinking in these terms the Bulls could come back and beat GSW the next year, but as constructed '16 GSW vs '96 Bulls I really think GSW wins, for basketball reasons.
This is why its a moronic argument.
Different era, different rules, different players.
To simplify it, I'd take prime Jordan/Pippen/Rodman over prime Curry/Green/Klay, in any era, with any rules.
The rest can change easily.
Kobe_6/8
02-29-2016, 02:54 AM
I was really young when that series happened but I remember thinking, they dropped those two games so they can win Game 6 in Chicago. I still feel the same way about it
Michael Jordan dropping a playoff game on purpose? :lol :roll: This is the same guy who willfully got the **** beaten out of him (for years) trying to beat the Pistons.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hbLs8wS6Fo4/UF4S4UXBi0I/AAAAAAAAAf4/hzXiI2tmWjQ/s1600/jordan_pistons.jpg
diamenz
02-29-2016, 09:52 AM
both teams have an unstoppable offense with so many options... gs even sorta runs a variation of the triangle with en emphasis on 3's at times too. gotta give the defensive advantage to chicago though, along with rebounds. the series would prob be a toss up 4-3 nine times outta ten. i think the real question is which team would struggle more vs. the other's era of rules and play? prob a toss up. the bull's mind gaming chess match would open up so many options to score, but the warriors long ball game that opens up lanes speaks for itself.
i bet phil would just let the dubs have their threes and clog up the lanes. we all know curry is gonna get his anyway, and klay is just streaky.
the coolest part? two steve kerrs.
Meticode
02-29-2016, 09:55 AM
With old defensive rules I think the Bulls would win. With today's defensive rules I think the Warriors would win.
kshutts1
02-29-2016, 10:04 AM
With old defensive rules I think the Bulls would win. With today's defensive rules I think the Warriors would win.
Pretty much this. I think people are too quick to consider GOAT team matchups and assume they are being played today. That's an unfair advantage, for obvious reasons.
Do a best of seven style series, where the team with the best record plays in their arena, in their era, then it flips? Just like home and away games in a series now?
I have no clue who would win THAT series... but I know it would be fun to watch. I assume Chicago, but I'm biased because they're my favorite team.
But it is not like hand-checking being eliminated would hurt Chicago's offense. Hand-checking being re-introduced would, though, hurt GSWs.
sd3035
02-29-2016, 10:15 AM
Bulls were much more stacked but Curry is significantly better than Jordan
Interesting matchup
JtotheIzzo
02-29-2016, 11:06 AM
This is why its a moronic argument.
Different era, different rules, different players.
To simplify it, I'd take prime Jordan/Pippen/Rodman over prime Curry/Green/Klay, in any era, with any rules.
The rest can change easily.
Moronic argument?
YOU made it a moronic argument by simplifying it to the top three on each team when you know full well Chicago has 1 and 3.
Chicago's top three will always be better, but it is the Warriors 4-9 pieces that blow the Bulls out of the water and make this argument even plausible.
You = moron.
IGOTGAME
02-29-2016, 11:07 AM
Let's let them win the title in 2016 first
Kingwillball
02-29-2016, 11:26 AM
With 96 rules no chance with today's rules slight chance ..
sd3035
02-29-2016, 11:35 AM
With 96 rules no chance with today's rules slight chance ..
One thing's certain, under any rules Mr. 5-47 wouldn't have a chance
Smoothtalker
02-29-2016, 12:06 PM
so even with the "great defense" back then Jordan was still able to average so much ppg? btw who is going to guard curry 30ft away from the basket we all know that's like a layup for curry. I think GSW beat that Bulls team in 6 games.
hateraid
02-29-2016, 12:14 PM
Jizzo, much respect for creating an intriguing thread that is very realistic and plausible in a forum that hugs Jordan's nuts to the fullest. I commend you on your nuts of steel.
As for who I think? I don't know. Very intriguing match up. What I'd like to know is how does Kerr coach against himself?
Cold soul
02-29-2016, 12:20 PM
I don't think so. I can't see it happening but who knows. It's hard to compare different era.
r0drig0lac
02-29-2016, 01:22 PM
with hc: Bulls in 4
without h c: Bull in 6
JtotheIzzo
02-29-2016, 01:43 PM
Jizzo, much respect for creating an intriguing thread that is very realistic and plausible in a forum that hugs Jordan's nuts to the fullest. I commend you on your nuts of steel.
As for who I think? I don't know. Very intriguing match up. What I'd like to know is how does Kerr coach against himself?
Obviously two of them.
Coach Kerr exploits player Kerr who is forced into a heavier workload due to the Bulls lack of three point shooting.
YES, hand checking is an issue, but the 3 point line is nearly two feet closer, Klay and Steph stretch the floor that much more and likely shoot a higher percentage.
AirBonner
02-29-2016, 01:52 PM
A scrub cavalier team took this same warrior team to six games. Lets see them 3 peat first.
lucky001
03-01-2016, 08:53 PM
Delevawhatsit bothered curry a lil bit. Mj is a lil bit better on d than Delly.
Mj will do a lil better than Bron did against iggy. The rest of the bulls are a bit better than that wreck of a cavs team. Bulls in 6.
LARRY BROWN
03-01-2016, 09:18 PM
rodman would reduce green to years a few minutes before they sweeped!
:coleman:
LARRY BROWN
03-01-2016, 09:26 PM
rodman would throw a elbow at currys face and break his nose!
:coleman:
SwayDizzle
03-01-2016, 09:29 PM
this would all come down to how PJ adjusts to the new rules and the style of ball that is being played today by the GSW. GS plays a brand of basketball that MJ's era is not completely familiar with (it was not thought possible up until recently), basically with the premise that long range shooting is not that efficient of a strategy. GSW shoots the 3 at a such a high clip that their schemes make it almost impossible to counter (or at least it hasn't been figured out yet). Steve Kerr, the coach, knows the triangle inside out, and knows PJs style of coaching and strategies. PJ has no clue how to defend this GSW team. I say GSW wins the first series. They would not threepeat however. Bulls would not let that happen. eventually, the Bulls and PJ would figure out how to stop GSW.
Da_Realist
03-01-2016, 10:43 PM
Too much attention is on how Chicago would defend GSW and not enough on how GSW would defend Chicago. Not only does Chicago also have an efficient offense, but GSW wouldn't even be able to slow down MJ because they can't touch him. GSW does not face a great midrange team and they would have serious problems defending the low post and mid range area. Chicago's offense would slow the game considerably. On top of that, Chicago has guys that would absolutely thrive shooting threes in this no-touch league (Kukoc and Kerr, in particular). Kukoc is 6'10" by the way. That's an open look every time down the floor whenever Chicago is tired of abusing the midrange area.
MJ is not Lebron. He would abuse one-on-one coverage with incredible efficiency.
He's not Durant. He wouldn't bail out the defense by shooting threes all day.
GSW would need to double, giving someone else an advantage. Either Pippen posting a smaller player, Kukoc shooting essentially a wide open shot or leaving Rodman to clean up whatever rebounds he can get. Chicago would force GSW to actually make ADJUSTMENTS.
Chicago would have no problem punishing them in the half court. They would have a significant rebounding edge and they would feast off all those turnovers (MJ and Pippen averaged 2 stls each. They would probably get more playing GSW because of GSW's high octane/high risk style plus MJ had quick feet, Pippen had long reach and they both anticipated the pass expertly. Those are dunks and layups going the other way). Chicago could get a good shot every possession. And Chicago was athletic and disciplined enough to stay with GSW defensively and not give up easy points due to lapses and boneheaded plays. Chicago's defense needs more credit.
There are no great low post/midrange teams today. GSW has not faced a great one and they would need to adjust too by playing Chicago. And another adjustment, the only two teams that play team ball is GSW and SA. Chicago's offense was a well oiled machine.
I don't think Steph has enough 30 foot threes in him to overcome the advantages Chicago has. Not to win four out of seven. It's about matchups.
Round Mound
03-02-2016, 03:03 AM
:no:
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
03-02-2016, 03:05 AM
Rodman would fcking murk GS when they go small lmao
and Rodman got robbed of FMVP in 96 as well
AintNoSunshine
03-02-2016, 03:15 AM
96 Bulls would make Kerr kill himself so the 16 Warriors will be left with no head coach.
Rodman would violate Draymond Green.
Jordan would become even more untouchable on offense and out alpha Curry.
Pip put Klay in a straight jacket.
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