View Full Version : David Duke does not endorse Trump
9erempiree
02-28-2016, 09:58 PM
Media still running with the story.:lol
:hammerhead: This stuff is starting to get out of hand.
2016 will be the death of media as we know it. People will realize just how bad they are.
senelcoolidge
02-28-2016, 10:13 PM
People are getting exposed left and right. The Dems the Repubs and their tool the media. Things are becoming transparent. Hopefully the uninformed can pick up on this.
FillJackson
02-28-2016, 10:50 PM
Media still running with the story.:lol
:hammerhead: This stuff is starting to get out of hand.
2016 will be the death of media as we know it. People will realize just how bad they are.
Where are you getting your nonsense from?
This is from David Duke's website.
Dr. Duke Says We Won Nevada Now Let
Dresta
02-28-2016, 10:59 PM
Where are you getting your nonsense from?
This is from David Duke's website.
Dr. Duke Says We Won Nevada Now Let’s Annihilate the Republican Traitor Bosses in Super Tuesday!
FEBRUARY 24, 2016 AT 11:16 AM
Dr. Duke started the show by talking about Trump’s victory in Nevada. He encouraged listeners to get involved with the Trump campaign. He said it is a great way to meet people who are open to our ideas.
David Duke's probably being paid by Hilary allies to do this. If he really wanted Trump to win he wouldn't publicly endorse him, as a David Duke endorsement could only hurt his chances.
This stuff is plain nonsense. Plenty of racial supremacists supported Obama too, but that didn't get round the clock coverage, unsurprisingly.
FillJackson
02-28-2016, 11:35 PM
David Duke's probably being paid by Hilary allies to do this. If he really wanted Trump to win he wouldn't publicly endorse him, as a David Duke endorsement could only hurt his chances.
This stuff is plain nonsense. Plenty of racial supremacists supported Obama too, but that didn't get round the clock coverage, unsurprisingly.
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Kblaze8855
02-28-2016, 11:37 PM
I read a while back about Duke wanting Trump to win except for his support of Israel. he seems to have gotten past it.
TheMan
02-28-2016, 11:41 PM
David Duke's probably being paid by Hilary allies to do this. If he really wanted Trump to win he wouldn't publicly endorse him, as a David Duke endorsement could only hurt his chances.
This stuff is plain nonsense. Plenty of racial supremacists supported Obama too, but that didn't get round the clock coverage, unsurprisingly.
Now you're just being an outright idiot :lol
Dresta
02-28-2016, 11:41 PM
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If you weren't a pathetic Hilary shill then you'd know that's exactly the sort of thing she'd do. This is the woman who hired people to harass and threaten the victims of her husbands sex attacks, and who had her cult-like followers believing all the accusations made against her husband were part of some kind of vast Republican conspiracy.
Oh, how quickly people forget.
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Dresta
02-28-2016, 11:42 PM
Now you're just being an outright idiot :lol
Bill Clinton was a rapist. I wouldn't put anything past that family; they are career criminals.
9erempiree
02-28-2016, 11:42 PM
If you weren't a pathetic Hilary shill then you'd know that's exactly the sort of thing she'd do. This is the woman who hired people to harass and threaten the victims of her husbands sex attacks, and who had her cult-like followers believing all the accusations made against her husband were part of some kind of vast Republican conspiracy.
Oh, how quickly people forget.
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This.
As mentioned, so many Americans don't even know the history of the Clintons.
The Democrats were endorsing racists long before this supposed Duke endorsement.
senelcoolidge
02-28-2016, 11:46 PM
Hillary is a bad bad woman. She has assassins working for her figuratively and literally. They will find ways to smear someone however possible.
dkmwise
02-28-2016, 11:59 PM
Robert Byrd recruited 150 people to create a new chapter of the KKK, and he was a democrat in the Senate until 2010. Obama, the Clintons, and every other heavy hitter democrat was at his funeral.
That was all no big deal, but a prior KKK guy just saying that he supports Trump has been top news all day.
I absolutely can't stand Donald Trump and think he is a plant sent by Hillary to blow up the Republican primary, but how can people give him so much crap because someone else likes him. It's not like Trump is supporting Duke.
DonDadda59
02-29-2016, 12:01 AM
David Duke's probably being paid by Hilary allies to do this.
Now that you're an unhinged conspiracy theorist, how do you feel about the Trump being a Clinton plant (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-ahead-of-republicans-2016-launch/2015/08/05/e2b30bb8-3ae3-11e5-b3ac-8a79bc44e5e2_story.html) theory? :confusedshrug:
Do you think that lifelong Democrat and funder of Hillary Clinton's political campaign all of a sudden saw the conservative light when he passed the 60 years on Earth barrier?
I mean the Clintons go to Donald's weddings, play golf with them, their kids are best friends (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11865654/Ivanka-Trump-and-Chelsea-Clinton-are-not-so-secretly-friends.html)
http://twitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/trump_clintons.png
https://d1ai9qtk9p41kl.cloudfront.net/assets/db/14347205841836.jpg
http://inequalityreport.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/TrumpClinton.png
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03440/trump-clinton_3440342b.jpg
What do you make of this? Why would the Donald need to discuss his political plans with Slick Willy and why would the Slick one be so encouraging? :confusedshrug:
dkmwise
02-29-2016, 12:05 AM
Now that you're an unhinged conspiracy theorist, how do you feel about the Trump being a Clinton plant (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-ahead-of-republicans-2016-launch/2015/08/05/e2b30bb8-3ae3-11e5-b3ac-8a79bc44e5e2_story.html) theory? :confusedshrug:
Do you think that lifelong Democrat and funder of Hillary Clinton's political campaign all of a sudden saw the conservative light when he passed the 60 years on Earth barrier?
I mean the Clintons go to Donald's weddings, play golf with them, their kids are best friends (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11865654/Ivanka-Trump-and-Chelsea-Clinton-are-not-so-secretly-friends.html)
http://twitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/trump_clintons.png
https://d1ai9qtk9p41kl.cloudfront.net/assets/db/14347205841836.jpg
http://inequalityreport.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/TrumpClinton.png
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03440/trump-clinton_3440342b.jpg
What do you make of this? Why would the Donald need to discuss his political plans with Slick Willy and why would the Slick one be so encouraging? :confusedshrug:
I've been saying this all along
Dresta
02-29-2016, 12:10 AM
During the exchange with Klein, the notoriously media-shy Broaddrick accused Clinton of complacency in covering up her husband’s alleged sexual crimes and indiscretions.
“I think she has always known everything about him. I think they have this evil compact between the two of them that they each know what the other does and overlook it. And go right on. And cover one for the other,” she said.
She recalled a personal meeting with Hillary in 1978, in which, Broaddrick believes, the future First Lady strongly implied the alleged rape victim must stay silent about her traumatic experience.
Broaddrick said she “almost died” two months ago when she saw a Clinton campaign ad in which Hillary insisted all women must be sided with if they accuse men of sexual assault.
“You have the right to be heard. You have the right to be believed. We’re with you,” Clinton said in the video, which she addressed to “every survivor of sexual assault.”
Broaddrick responded: “Aaron, the only thing that I would like to say is I hope that someday these two people, these people that I feel like are so evil, will be brought to justice.”
“You know, if I can help in that, I will. But these are not good people for America,” she said of Bill and Hillary.
Broaddrick said she was prompted to speak on Klein’s show after she saw Clinton’s Benghazi testimony last month. The show airs on New York’s AM 970 The Answer and Philadelphia’s NewsTalk 990 AM.
“The only thing that made me consider coming forward again at this time at my age is when I saw her on that Benghazi hearing. Which was really hard to look at. I always turn the channel when either one of them are on TV. But when I saw that look on her face. It was the very same look back in 1978. That lying look.”
Broaddrick said she fears for a Hillary presidency because “she lies. Just like she did in the Bengahzi hearing. She lies. She covers up. Just to imagine her in that position would not be good for America.”
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/22/exclusive-bill-rape-accuser-blasts-evil-hillary-shame-on-you/
https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/684822324227379200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Then, this past Sunday, Hillary Clinton faced a loud and persistent heckler yelling about Broaddrick at a Derry, New Hampshire, campaign event, eventually dismissing the woman in strident fashion. "You are very rude, and I'm not going to ever call on you," Clinton declared, sparking a standing ovation from the crowd.
In statements to reporters and a long Facebook update posted after the rally, the heckler — a Republican state representative named Katherine Prudhomme-O’Brien — explained that she wanted Clinton to address allegations that Bill Clinton had sexually assaulted Broaddrick and Kathleen Willey. Willey claims that Clinton fondled her breast and forced her hand on his crotch in the Oval Office in 1993, when she was a White House volunteer. Though Prudhomme-O'Brien didn't mention her, Paula Jones — an Arkansas state employee who sued Clinton for allegedly exposing himself to her when he was governor in 1991 — is often included in this list of accusers as well.
http://www.vox.com/2016/1/6/10722580/bill-clinton-juanita-broaddrick
Then, if you read Christopher Hitchens' No one Left to Lie to, you will see he has found 3 separate victims, all of whom accuse Bill Clinton of raping or trying to rape them; these women knew nothing of each other at the time, and each of their descriptions describe a sex-attacker with an identical MO.
Imagine if Donald Trump had a long line of sex abuse victims, imagine the media circus that would bring about. Yet he's the sexist, and the woman who harassed and defamed her husband's victims is a warrior for the rights of women. :roll:
Tis unbelievable. Speaks to the power of media indoctrination.
dkmwise
02-29-2016, 12:11 AM
Now that you're an unhinged conspiracy theorist, how do you feel about the Trump being a theory? :confusedshrug:
Do you think that lifelong Democrat and funder of Hillary Clinton's political campaign all of a sudden saw the conservative light when he passed the 60 years on Earth barrier?
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Dadda, one of the common reply you'll hear from Trump supporters on this is 'Well Reagan was a democrat and then became a Republican.'
While on it's face this is true, however, Reagan grew up in a blue collar family in a blue collar town where everyone was a democrat and got into Hollywood where everyone was liberal and early on he was a democrat. But after he got out of Hollywood that changed. Reagan turned pretty much full conservative over 20 years before he became president and during that time he campaigned for many republican politicians and was even a republican governor. Trump was always a liberal up until 2012 when he tried running in the primary then.
Not even close to the political arc of Reagan. You can convince me that people can change political leaning through life, but not that they pull a complete 180 at age 65.
dkmwise
02-29-2016, 12:12 AM
Imagine if Donald Trump had a long line of sex abuse victims, imagine the media circus that would bring about. Yet he's the sexist, and the woman who harassed and defamed her husband's victims is a warrior for the rights of women. :roll:
Tis unbelievable. Speaks to the power of media indoctrination.
There is a super pac who has an entire ad campaign ready to go if hillary gets the nomination with stories about all the women that Bill has abused over the years.
Dresta
02-29-2016, 12:18 AM
Now that you're an unhinged conspiracy theorist,:
Not at all. There is a long history of accusations, dating all the way back to his time at Oxford; they are more than a little credible to say the least. But yeah, typical Clintonite tactic to dismiss anyone going public regarding their crimes as a 'conspiracy theorist'--even though Hilary herself dismissed the accusations of her husband's sexual shenanigans as a "Republican conspiracy" to defame her husband.
Sid Blumenthal was spreading lies about Monica Lewinsky being a stalker on the behest of the Clintons (proven, verifiable fact), and yet he's still the woman's chief advisor. It's as much of a "conspiracy" as saying Henry Kissinger was a war criminal; and i hear Kissinger is a big fan of Mrs. Clinton--whatta surprise.
You're showing your true colours in defending such disgraceful people. They are the worst of the worst. Get this book and read it:
http://www.amazon.com/One-Left-Lie-Triangulations-Jefferson/dp/1455522996
That's if you even have the attention span to read an entire book, which I very much doubt.
Dresta
02-29-2016, 12:22 AM
Dadda, one of the common reply you'll hear from Trump supporters on this is 'Well Reagan was a democrat and then became a Republican.'
While on it's face this is true, however, Reagan grew up in a blue collar family in a blue collar town where everyone was a democrat and got into Hollywood where everyone was liberal and early on he was a democrat. But after he got out of Hollywood that changed. Reagan turned pretty much full conservative over 20 years before he became president and during that time he campaigned for many republican politicians and was even a republican governor. Trump was always a liberal up until 2012 when he tried running in the primary then.
Not even close to the political arc of Reagan. You can convince me that people can change political leaning through life, but not that they pull a complete 180 at age 65.
This just isn't true:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usb0iE5WiZI
He was clearly wrong about Bush Snr. But he's identifying as a man of "republican principles" here in 1988.
dkmwise
02-29-2016, 12:33 AM
This just isn't true:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usb0iE5WiZI
He was clearly wrong about Bush Snr. But he's identifying as a man of "republican principles" here in 1988.
talked about supporting late term abortion
Supported assault weapons ban
in 2001 registered as a democrat
supported hillary clinton, john kerry and many other democrats
Still supports government run healthcare (like Canada and Scotland)
Now wants to limit free speech of the press
Sorry, but a 5 minute interview 30 years ago doesn't change all his stances he's ever gone public with
dude77
02-29-2016, 12:36 AM
talked about supporting late term abortion
Supported assault weapons ban
in 2001 registered as a democrat
supported hillary clinton, john kerry and many other democrats
Still supports government run healthcare (like Canada and Scotland)
Now wants to limit free speech of the press
Sorry, but a 5 minute interview 30 years ago doesn't change all his stances he's ever gone public with
talked supported .. past tense .. he doesn't support any of that now .. let it go haters .. trump will be your next president and you're gonna learn to love him .. because you have to
Kblaze8855
02-29-2016, 12:38 AM
When I really think about it....Trump himself isnt as irrational as a lot of the people who support him. His current popularity is a bit embarrassing as an American far as like....having to accept that we as a people let this happen. But when you listen to what he has to say hes no more offputting than Ted Cruz. Maybe less. He doesnt have the "This guy might be about to form a Galactic empire...." evil on the low vibe Cruz does.
Thing is though....he has some of the most worrisome followers. The subject of him just seems to bring out the worst in so many. People you wouldnt really think hold some crazy views...come out with them. Crazier views than he himself has mentioned. People you wouldnt want to be openly supporting you...just kinda gravitate to his message. Which im sure annoys his more reasonable followers....but it happens.
Its to the point HS kids at basketball games are chanting "Trump! Trump!" to visiting teams with Latino players. There is such a groundswell of kinda...dirtiness around that guy.
You would expect the Klan to be in favor of Trump....at least more than others. That wouldnt necessarily make his message one of hate...to the extent theirs generally is. But where else are they gonna go?
Hillary and Bernie? For obvious reasons....no. One of the two Cuban Americans? Eh. Not impossible but when opposed by a white as can be guy angrily calling for a wall and slowing Muslims coming in? Where would you expect a white supremacist to gravitate? A civil rights activist who marched with King? The woman who even if inauthentic courts the black vote even more than the civil rights activist? Carson? Obvious problem there.
John Kasich and Trump are left. One of them is finally making it cool to say what you feel.....even if the PC police call you out for it.
It just kinda feel like they would go Trumps way doesnt it?
It doesnt make what hes saying similar to their beliefs....but given all the information...if you had to bet....wouldnt you assume the average Klan member or well wisher might go Trump before anyone else?
dkmwise
02-29-2016, 12:39 AM
talked supported .. past tense .. he doesn't support any of that now .. let it go haters .. trump will be your next president and you're gonna learn to love him .. because you have to
What could change in your life from the time you are 60 to 69 where a lighbulb goes off that you pull a 180 on abortion.
If you're talking change your mind from age 20 to 30, that seems completely reasonable. Maybe you go through having a child yourself and that changes your mind. But 60 year olds and not changing their world view.
dude77
02-29-2016, 12:42 AM
What could change in your life from the time you are 60 to 69 where a lighbulb goes off that you pull a 180 on abortion.
If you're talking change your mind from age 20 to 30, that seems completely reasonable. Maybe you go through having a child yourself and that changes your mind. But 60 year olds and not changing their world view.
well apparently he was a republican in 1988 .. when he was 42-43 so that's not how it went down .. people change their positions .. sometimes back and forth
dkmwise
02-29-2016, 12:50 AM
well apparently he was a republican in 1988 .. when he was 42-43 so that's not how it went down .. people change their positions .. sometimes back and forth
Being in the crowd at the convention does not make you a republican.
And I don't know a single person who in their 60's changed their opinion on any major issue like these.
I sure hope that I'm wrong and he is the first person in the world to have a complete revelation at 65, I would love nothing more than him to be a true conservative and become president.
FillJackson
02-29-2016, 12:50 AM
If you weren't a pathetic Hilary shill then you'd know that's exactly the sort of thing she'd do. This is the woman who hired people to harass and threaten the victims of her husbands sex attacks, and who had her cult-like followers believing all the accusations made against her husband were part of some kind of vast Republican conspiracy.
Oh, how quickly people forget.
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Terahite
02-29-2016, 01:09 AM
Duke is not a "white supremacist" (he rejects this term if you actually read his website); he is if anything a 'white' rights activist much like a plethora of 'black' rights activists we've come to know and love over the years. The media is completely full of shit as usual in continuing to use this "supremacist" smear term. How incredibly pathetic they were running this nonsense on CNN literally all day (as if guilty-by-association isn't a logical fallacy :facepalm ). Someone else mentioned Robert Byrd who was a member of the KKK and a senator until just a few years ago.
Personally I don't agree with Duke's race stuff but his stuff on neoconservatism being a Jewish conspiracy is actually pretty sound when you look at the evidence (sorry if this offends the dummies in here who cover up the truth with ideological baggage). Anyways, Duke advocates no violence or oppression whatsoever if you read what he actually says, and was actually one of the few people circa 2002 who was speaking out against the Iraq war lies. Props to him too for supporting Trump.
FillJackson
02-29-2016, 01:17 AM
Robert Byrd recruited 150 people to create a new chapter of the KKK, and he was a democrat in the Senate until 2010. Obama, the Clintons, and every other heavy hitter democrat was at his funeral.
That was all no big deal, but a prior KKK guy just saying that he supports Trump has been top news all day.
I absolutely can't stand Donald Trump and think he is a plant sent by Hillary to blow up the Republican primary, but how can people give him so much crap because someone else likes him. It's not like Trump is supporting Duke.
David Duke is an active White Nationalist in 2016. Byrd was in the KKK in 1940's. Since then Robert Byrd renounced his past, apologized for it and worked for Civil Rights. By 1968 he was supporting Civil Rights legislation. and by the time he died, he was eulogized by the NAACP.
NAACP MOURNS THE PASSING OF U.S. SENATOR ROBERT BYRD (http://www.naacp.org/press/entry/naacp-mourns-the-passing-of-u.s.-senator-robert-byrd)
June 29, 2010
Longest Serving Member of Congress Became a Champion for Civil Rights and Liberties
WASHINGTON, DC - The NAACP is saddened by the passing of United States Senator Robert Byrd. Byrd, the longest serving member of congress was first elected to the U.S. House from in 1952 and was elected Senator in 1958. Byrd passed away this morning at the age of 92.
"Senator Byrd reflects the transformative power of this nation," stated NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous. "Senator Byrd went from being an active member of the KKK to a being a stalwart supporter of the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act and many other pieces of seminal legislation that advanced the civil rights and liberties of our country.
So yeah, there's a difference between Robert Byrd and David Duke.
Also Trump is getting crap for claiming he doesn't know who David Duke is on Sunday after discussing him on Friday and for claiming he would have to look into the KKK and White Nationalist groups to see if anything is wrong with them. He could have given a simple and clear denunciation, but he didn't he tried to hedge.
FillJackson
02-29-2016, 01:26 AM
You would expect the Klan to be in favor of Trump....at least more than others. That wouldnt necessarily make his message one of hate...to the extent theirs generally is. But where else are they gonna go?The first writer to notice this phenomenon was not writing about the 2016 race. He was writing on extremist groups and noticed the neo-Nazis endorsed Trump last June.
[QUOTE]When the Trump storm broke this summer, it touched off smaller tempests that stirred up American politics in ways that were easy to miss from afar. At the time, I happened to be reporting on extremist white-rights groups, and observed at first hand their reactions to his candidacy. Trump was advancing a dire portrait of immigration that partly overlapped with their own. On June 28th, twelve days after Trump
FillJackson
02-29-2016, 01:27 AM
Duke is not a "white supremacist" (he rejects this term if you actually read his website); he is if anything a 'white' rights activist much like a plethora of 'black' rights activists we've come to know and love over the years. The media is completely full of shit as usual in continuing to use this "supremacist" smear term. How incredibly pathetic they were running this nonsense on CNN literally all day (as if guilty-by-association isn't a logical fallacy :facepalm ). Someone else mentioned Robert Byrd who was a member of the KKK and a senator until just a few years ago.
Personally I don't agree with Duke's race stuff but his stuff on neoconservatism being a Jewish conspiracy is actually pretty sound when you look at the evidence (sorry if this offends the dummies in here who cover up the truth with ideological baggage). Anyways, Duke advocates no violence or oppression whatsoever if you read what he actually says, and was actually one of the few people circa 2002 who was speaking out against the Iraq war lies. Props to him too for supporting Trump.
this ****ing idiot.
Terahite
02-29-2016, 01:32 AM
this ****ing idiot.
No one is falling for your smear tactics fakkit and you're definitely not convincing any Trump supporters we think you're completely full of shit :lol
FillJackson
02-29-2016, 01:35 AM
No one is falling for your smear tactics fakkit and you're definitely not convincing any Trump supporters we think you're completely full of shit :lol
LOL.
Yeah, you can't turn lead into gold. Also how do I smear someone who just admitted "I'm down with his Jew-hating, but not his ******-hating?"
Kblaze8855
02-29-2016, 01:40 AM
The first writer to notice this phenomenon was not writing about the 2016 race. He was writing on extremist groups and noticed the neo-Nazis endorsed Trump last June.
This was in the New Yorker and heavily discussed 9 months ago. So Trump is very, very aware of this and even when directly confronted with it. He hedges.
Yea....
The people quoted seem fairly honest. Anyone who thinks about it would have to conclude that people like them...likely favor Trump. Trump cant just...openly court them....but politicians dont turn down a vote.
Im sure plenty of racists voted for Obama just because he wasnt white. I dont see why we cant be honest about it. Trump is clearly gonna get the racist white guy vote before anyone else is. You would figure the white pride section either votes for Trump or doesnt vote.
Terahite
02-29-2016, 01:45 AM
LOL.
Yeah, you can't turn lead into gold. Also how do I smear someone who just admitted "I'm down with his Jew-hating, but not his ******-hating?"
I don't endorse Jew-hating stupid. That doesn't mean neoconservatism isn't a Jewish phenomenon; Jews like Jacob Heilbrun and Murray Friedman have written entire books about this (not that you actually read). Moreover, a group of mostly Jewish neocons were behind the Iraq war invasion: see the book "The Transparent Kabal" by Stephen Sniegoski among others (not that you actually read).
Continue parroting stuff you heard in the controlled news media dummy. We're all listening. :hammerhead:
Dresta
02-29-2016, 01:45 AM
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Keep posting idiotic smilies like a child all you want, those are facts buddy. You're supporting a psychopathic career criminal--only willful ignorance could blind you to what is so obvious after all these years.
It just kinda feel like they would go Trumps way doesnt it?
It doesnt make what hes saying similar to their beliefs....but given all the information...if you had to bet....wouldnt you assume the average Klan member or well wisher might go Trump before anyone else?
Sure, but that's why it doesn't mean anything. Also, these guys coming out publicly either don't have any brains or they are doing someone else's dirty work, or both. Because any white supremacist with the slightest bit of sense would know that their endorsing Trump is only going to hurt his standing, not improve it. If they really want Trump then they'd be going the wrong way about it in supporting him. They may will be that stupid, but who knows.
talked about supporting late term abortion
Supported assault weapons ban
in 2001 registered as a democrat
supported hillary clinton, john kerry and many other democrats
Still supports government run healthcare (like Canada and Scotland)
Now wants to limit free speech of the press
Sorry, but a 5 minute interview 30 years ago doesn't change all his stances he's ever gone public with
1. All that shows is that he's clearly not the lifelong Democrat some people are trying to portray him as.
2. None of those are things the President has any real power over any way. On the major and important issues (the debt, unrestricted immigration, depressed wages, trade, foreign wars) Trump is, unfortunately, looking like the most reliable candidate that has a chance of being elected; again, i stress, that doesn't mean very much, but the alternatives are worse, and that's all you have to go with.
3. Of course I don't think Trump is a conservative (though i am struggling to think what a conservative actually is in today's world, when there isn't all that much left to conserve; it seems to me that the people acting conservatively are the pathetic shills propping up people like Hilary, and then thinking Rubio is the best Republican candidate--what could preserve the status quo more than that kind of attitude?).
NumberSix
02-29-2016, 01:45 AM
Also Trump is getting crap for claiming he doesn't know who David Duke is on Sunday after discussing him on Friday and for claiming he would have to look into the KKK and White Nationalist groups to see if anything is wrong with them. He could have given a simple and clear denunciation, but he didn't he tried to hedge.
Anybody who hasn't caught on that Trump is doing this totally on purpose needs to get their head checked.
This is like the 8th time Trump has done this. He says something super vague or something he knows damn well can be interpreted in a really bad way knowing the media will jump on it and overplay their hand, giving him the opportunity to stoke the flames of the anti-media sentiment and play the "look at how the dishonest media is smearing me" card. And suddenly, nobody even remembers the issues of his taxes, Trump university, polish illegals and all the all things he was catching heat for that have been completely drowned out and forgotten.
The guy is a master. It's unreal.
Dresta
02-29-2016, 01:50 AM
The first writer to notice this phenomenon was not writing about the 2016 race. He was writing on extremist groups and noticed the neo-Nazis endorsed Trump last June.
This was in the New Yorker and heavily discussed 9 months ago. So Trump is very, very aware of this and even when directly confronted with it. He hedges.
He directly disavowed them, on record; so why does he keep getting asked about them? I'll tell you: to associate them in the minds of easily-led dipshits like yourself.
I wouldn't keep repeating the same thing if i kept being asked idiotic questions about white supremacists either--after the first few times, i'd simply start ignoring the question, because it's beneath an individual's dignity to be incessantly bombarded with such scurrilous garbage.
FillJackson
02-29-2016, 01:58 AM
this thread is lulz.
We have a fan of David Duke's trenchant political insight and someone just mentioned dignity in relation to Donald Trump.
good stuff.
Dresta
02-29-2016, 02:02 AM
this thread is lulz.
We have a fan of David Duke's trenchant political insight and someone just mentioned dignity in relation to Donald Trump.
good stuff.
Says the guy who supports a wanton criminal. Can't you even read? Would you not be indignant if someone kept asking you about being incessantly asked about how much people you despise love you as if it said something about your own character?
You would, so shut up, and move on. Idiot.
NumberSix
02-29-2016, 02:03 AM
He directly disavowed them, on record; so why does he keep getting asked about them? I'll tell you: to associate them in the minds of easily-led dipshits like yourself.
I wouldn't keep repeating the same thing if i kept being asked idiotic questions about white supremacists either--after the first few times, i'd simply start ignoring the question, because it's beneath an individual's dignity to be incessantly bombarded with such scurrilous garbage.
Keep it real. Donald Trump doesn't keep retweeting white nationalists accounts by accident. It's an intentional move to keep the media spectacle going. He keeps purposely doing things where he doesn't actually do anything controversial, but that he knows he'll catch heat for and make it look like he's constantly under attack by the media.
You're crazy if you can't tell that he sits there thinking of little things to bait the media into attacking him. Clearly, when he sees a tweet that has nothing to do with racism but has a sketchy twitter name, he knows he can't be directly directly tarnished but it will bait the media attack and he can go out with his "it was just a retweet. I have no idea about these people's accounts" routine.
Kblaze8855
02-29-2016, 02:23 AM
Sure, but that's why it doesn't mean anything. Also, these guys coming out publicly either don't have any brains or they are doing someone else's dirty work, or both. Because any white supremacist with the slightest bit of sense would know that their endorsing Trump is only going to hurt his standing, not improve it. If they really want Trump then they'd be going the wrong way about it in supporting him. They may will be that stupid, but who know
Trump has crossed the old barrier for what you can say or do and be supported though. This guy flat out said he didnt think a POW is a hero because he likes guys who didnt get captured....and its been barely a blip as hes gotten MORE popular. Agree or not....its not something anyone assumed a presidential candidate could say. But here he is.
If Trump stood on a stage with Duke tomorrow....hed get attacked for it....by the same people attacking him now. These people behind him arent gonna just stop and vote for Rubio or Cruz. They would vote for him anyway....or not vote.
Hes not losing supporters to someone else. This here:
No one is falling for your smear tactics fakkit and you're definitely not convincing any Trump supporters we think you're completely full of shit
Is a standard Trump supporter. And why wouldnt it be? Its following his lead.
Call you a ******...a *****...assure you that their support is unwavering no matter what. You think that ends if he is openly backed by the Klan? Hed have to don a hood himself to shame people into changing their stance. Just...being supported by them? Makes no difference.
Trump supporters seem waaaaaay more into him than others are into their guy. Changing teams isnt up for debate. The others on both sides seem to fall behind who they hate the least...who they find...electable like it or not. Trump supporters....actually love him.
The others get begrudging support.
You can change the mind of a supporter. Hard to change the mind of someone this emotionally attached who is kinda living vicariously through someone elses wave of support.
Dresta
02-29-2016, 02:38 AM
Trump has crossed the old barrier for what you can say or do and be supported though. This guy flat out said he didnt think a POW is a hero because he likes guys who didnt get captured....and its been barely a blip as hes gotten MORE popular. Agree or not....its not something anyone assumed a presidential candidate could say. But here he is.
If Trump stood on a stage with Duke tomorrow....hed get attacked for it....by the same people attacking him now. These people behind him arent gonna just stop and vote for Rubio or Cruz. They would vote for him anyway....or not vote.
Hes not losing supporters to someone else. This here:
Is a standard Trump supporter. And why wouldnt it be? Its following his lead.
Call you a ******...a *****...assure you that their support is unwavering no matter what. You think that ends if he is openly backed by the Klan? Hed have to don a hood himself to shame people into changing their stance. Just...being supported by them? Makes no difference.
Trump supporters seem waaaaaay more into him than others are into their guy. Changing teams isnt up for debate. The others on both sides seem to fall behind who they hate the least...who they find...electable like it or not. Trump supporters....actually love him.
The others get begrudging support.
You can change the mind of a supporter. Hard to change the mind of someone this emotionally attached who is kinda living vicariously through someone elses wave of support.Maybe he'd still win the primary, but these seem to me to be early attacks aimed at trying to get the people who're thinking of voting for him in the General (not even because they like him, but because they despise Hilary, and don't want to see any more of her) to either not vote or resign themselves to Hilary because they don't want to elect a guy who associates with racists and such (and I really don't think Trump is a racist tbh--it's obvious he's being deliberately outrageous and provocative).
It's also why I think Trump's support might be greater than is commonly assumed: voting for him will be like a guilty pleasure for many, not the sort of thing they want to admit to other human beings, even pollsters.
Kblaze8855
02-29-2016, 03:00 AM
Somewhat related....this post was brought to my attention(I suppose so I could do something about it):
Where the meltdown boy?
You either a liberal queer lover or a nigro.
I thought to myself "No way this guy isnt a Trump voter" so I quickly did a search for his name...and Trump. I get this:
Bring me proof. I'm a trump supporter. I think the views were misrepresented. Nobody said they're unhappy slaves were freed. They probably meant that slavery during the confederation was a profitable thing. It contributed to the economy. That's it.
Stop making junk up. Liberals literally have nothing better to do.
As I said...some people just gravitate towards a certain message. Trump has the klan and its more undercover modern suit wearing version on lock.
Doesnt make what hes saying...overtly racist. Just is what it is.
Terahite
02-29-2016, 10:26 AM
Somewhat related....this post was brought to my attention(I suppose so I could do something about it):
I thought to myself "No way this guy isnt a Trump voter" so I quickly did a search for his name...and Trump. I get this:
As I said...some people just gravitate towards a certain message. Trump has the klan and its more undercover modern suit wearing version on lock.
Doesnt make what hes saying...overtly racist. Just is what it is.
I'm pretty sure your "evidence" is from a troll account named Laker something (possibly one of Dadda's alts created to "discredit" Trump). You didn't cite your "source" so it's hard to be sure.
In any case your amateur "detective work" is cringe-inducing.
Kblaze8855
02-29-2016, 12:30 PM
I read that 4-5 times growing more amused each go imagining your air quotes.
Kblaze8855
02-29-2016, 01:41 PM
More on the Jews?
I swear ISH sometimes make it sound like the muslims and jews are fighting for the right to destroy the world.
JtotheIzzo
02-29-2016, 01:45 PM
Media still running with the story.:lol
:hammerhead: This stuff is starting to get out of hand.
2016 will be the death of media as we know it. People will realize just how bad they are.
Media has kept your boy Trump relevant.
Terahite
02-29-2016, 01:59 PM
Media has kept your boy Trump relevant.
Um, "kept relevant" in the media maybe. Trump is relevant with or without the media though. They need him more than he needs them. Just look at the throngs of enthusiastic supporters at any Trump event (which the cameras won't show you). Most of them including myself think your "media" is totally irrelevant, controlled by six companies who traffic in kid-touching and devil-worship. Keep your depraved "media" you octogenarian.
David Duke's probably being paid by Hilary allies to do this. If he really wanted Trump to win he wouldn't publicly endorse him, as a David Duke endorsement could only hurt his chances.
This stuff is plain nonsense. Plenty of racial supremacists supported Obama too, but that didn't get round the clock coverage, unsurprisingly.
:oldlol:
If i am violating this boards policy i would like to be told so and shut up in these topics in the future, i dont wanna get banned for this shit:cheers:
lol, ISH doesn't ban people.
dude77
02-29-2016, 02:55 PM
trump is unstumpable .. david duke kkk ? who cares .. it's done ..
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/271117-poll-trump-commands-33-point-lead-nationally
cnn has a headline up right now .. 'clinton trump expected to be nominees' .. it's over .. bring on the heavyweight match
bladefd
02-29-2016, 08:55 PM
Trump just needs to say "I have nothing to do with any white supremacist group or KKK" and that's it. Not saying anything is disconcerting. Saying "I don't know anything about KKK" is nonsense response.
The supporters of Trump say more about him than anything Trump himself says or doesn't say. They don't support him for no reason. Just like Wallstreet doesn't support Hillary for no reason, Trump supporters don't support him for no reason. If he was retweeting white supremacists some months ago, and they seem to support him, something goes off in back of my mind. His supporters makes this guy outright dangerous.
Most of his supporters cite "Trump speaks his mind". Look, people have a right to speak their minds, but they don't have a right to be taken serious if they yell obscenities into the wind and a loud mouth personally attacking everyone as Trump does. I mean you can do it but don't expect to be taken serious for it. To put that on same level as "speaking his mind" is irresponsible and simply foolish.
NumberSix
02-29-2016, 09:10 PM
Trump just needs to say "I have nothing to do with any white supremacist group or KKK" and that's it. Not saying anything is disconcerting. Saying "I don't know anything about KKK" is nonsense response.
I think that's what he was trying to do by saying "I don't know David Duke. I've never met David Duke. I don't know anything about these white supremacist groups".
The supporters of Trump say more about him than anything Trump himself says or doesn't say. They don't support him for no reason. Just like Wallstreet doesn't support Hillary for no reason, Trump supporters don't support him for no reason. If he was retweeting white supremacists some months ago, and they seem to support him, something goes off in back of my mind. His supporters makes this guy outright dangerous.
The reason they support him is because he took a hard line stance on two issues. Illegal immigration and trade.
They actually don't agree with him on much outside of those two issues. He scores VERY low on "shares my values" but they have drawn a line in the sand on these two issues. And they don't trust guys like Marco Rubio who back stabbed them on illegal immigration.
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