Is Curry becoming so dangerous that the "Curry Rules" are coming?

[ClipperRevival]

Happened with MJ starting in the 1989 ECF when the 63-19 Pistons were down 2-1 to the 47-35 Bulls, mostly due to MJ. And when MJ scored 46 and hit the game winner to help Chicago go up 2-1, that is when Isiah sat by the Chicago river for hours, thinking about #23 in red. Then he along with the coaches devised the "Jordan Rules".

I can possibly see a similiar scenario brewing come playoff time if he keeps this up. At some point, a team will say, "anyone but him" and will do everything they can to stop Curry. The most obvious rule I can think of would be to just throw hard doubles at him once he gets to within 30 feet from the basket. Just get it out of his hands. And never go under the picks. The greater you are, the greater the attention you warrant from defenses.

Thoughts?

[Derivative]

Just injure his ankles, put a foot under him when he jumps, problem solved.

[Jacks3]

That's exactly what the Cavs tried in the Finals. It didn't work.

You double him every time and the best passing team in basketball is going to make you pay.

[warriorfan]

That's exactly what the Cavs tried in the Finals. It didn't work.

This

[ClipperRevival]

That's exactly what the Cavs tried in the Finals. It didn't work.

You double him every time and the best passing team in basketball is going to make you pay.

He never reached his current level last year. There are levels to greatness. But true about a great passing team will make you pay dearly for throwing hard doubles but again, this comes back to Curry maintaing this level and some team getting so desparate to slow him down that they would take their chances with anyone else but him.

[SwishSquared]

They already hard double beyond the three point line. The Dubs beat this by having Curry dish to Draymond at the FT line. He then finds the open shooter in the corner or a cutter.

If Draymond is on the bench, this tactic would work a lot better. But Bogut and Iggy are skilled ball-movers and passers, so you can only double and rotate so much before they kill you.

[Marchesk]

That's exactly what the Cavs tried in the Finals. It didn't work.

Actually, it was working, but the Cavs couldn't keep up their intensity due to a lack of depth, and they didn't have enough offensive firepower outside of Lebron without Love and Irving.

[Funktion]

Just injure his ankles, put a foot under him when he jumps, problem solved.

They've been trying to do that and have almost succeeded on numerous occasions. But dude got bionic ankles now. Westbrook thought he was in the clear but then looked over and Curry was sitting at the scorers table.

[Marchesk]

Let's be real here, the Warriors beat the Cavs last year because of two reasons:

1. Superior depth.

2. Lebron's jumper was broken.

[ClipperRevival]

They already hard double beyond the three point line. The Dubs beat this by having Curry dish to Draymond at the FT line. He then finds the open shooter in the corner or a cutter.

If Draymond is on the bench, this tactic would work a lot better. But Bogut and Iggy are skilled ball-movers and passers, so you can only double and rotate so much before they kill you.

Yeah, Dray with his decision making makes them that much more dangerous.

[Marchesk]

There is another approach a team could try. Let Curry get his. Let him average 40+ in a series. Focus on shutting everyone else down. Make Curry beat you all by himself. Frustrate the hell out of Klay and Dray.

[warriorfan]

Yeah, Dray with his decision making makes them that much more dangerous.

you dont have to be a genius to make the right play in a 4 v 3 scenario

[Funktion]

Better irritate him, and hope he gets into foul trouble with reach ins, and dumb fouls. The earlier game in LA with the Clippers where they blew the 20 pt lead Redick was irritating the F out of him from the opening tipoff. Course LA went into full meltdown and Curry went for 40, and Barnes lit em up in the 4th :lol

[Bawkish]

There is another approach a team could try. Let Curry get his. Let him average 40+ in a series. Focus on shutting everyone else down. Make Curry beat you all by himself. Frustrate the hell out of Klay and Dray.

i'd have this one too

let Curry score 100 pts a game but i'd shutdown everyone. This will also affect Curry's mindset whether to keep on scoring or try to involve his teammates more. By this time he will become tentative and cause turnovers. Just my 2 cents doe

[ClipperRevival]

There is another approach a team could try. Let Curry get his. Let him average 40+ in a series. Focus on shutting everyone else down. Make Curry beat you all by himself. Frustrate the hell out of Klay and Dray.

The thing is, Curry shoots 3s. And say he were to hit 50% from 3, a 2 point shooting star would need to hit 75% from 2 to match that production. And say Curry hits 60% from 3, a 2 point star would have to hit at 90%. I think any team would gladly take their star hitting 75-90% from 2. But that's just not possible. Even the GOAT 2 point stars peaked at around 60-65%. The 3 point shot is what makes Curry that dangerous.

[ClipperRevival]

Of course another strategy would be to make Curry work on the D end. Even if you aren't scoring on him, you can tell the guy being guarded by Curry to purposely move through picks all day ala Redick/Korver to make Curry expend energy.

[Marchesk]

The thing is, Curry shoots 3s. And say he were to hit 50% from 3, a 2 point shooting star would need to hit 75% from 2 to match that production. And say Curry hits 60% from 3, a 2 point star would have to hit at 90%. I think any team would gladly take their star hitting 75-90% from 2. But that's just not possible. Even the GOAT 2 point stars peaked at around 60-65%. The 3 point shot is what makes Curry that dangerous.

Yes, but if you're a team like the Spurs, Thunder or Clippers, you can put up points. So the question is can you let Curry get 40-50 a game nailing a bunch of threes, but hold the rest of Warriors in check so that you end up ahead.

Do you really want to waste your best defenders or bigs trying to frustrate Curry 25 feet out, when he's just as likely to beat you at some stretch in the game anyway hitting impossible threes, or do you want to not let the rest of the Warriors beat you?

[JimmyMcAdocious]

There is another approach a team could try. Let Curry get his. Let him average 40+ in a series. Focus on shutting everyone else down. Make Curry beat you all by himself. Frustrate the hell out of Klay and Dray.

Don't think it's that simple with the way the Warriors play. A team predicated on ball movement (especially the level of off the ball movement the Warriors have - which is honestly maybe the best I've seen) can't usually be forced into get that guy to iso and let him have his. Makes it more difficult that Curry is the PG and a really fantastic creator. It would be one thing if the guy was only a scorer. Watch these guys on offense. It's a shit ton of screens, guys cutting, looking to cut, tons of spacing... It's incredible.

I think the Cavs plan to cut the head of the snake off was correct. But the Warriors are better as a team and so is Curry so it should be interesting to see if that tactic still somewhat works. It's not like teams haven't tried that this season already.

[ClipperRevival]

Yes, but if you're a team like the Spurs, Thunder or Clippers, you can put up points. So the question is can you let Curry get 40-50 a game nailing a bunch of threes, but hold the rest of Warriors in check so that you end up ahead.

Yeah, it's something to consider.

[Pointguard]

Now all the contenders would put a Mugsy Bogues guy on Curry. Bogues could press anybody for the full length of the court and not get tired. That's what you need for Curry. It will at least take away a portion of the 32 feet to 25 feet range which causes most of the havoc.

[Dresta]

Nah, just get the refs to call the moving screens at key moments in the game. That'd **** them up big time.

[Bawkish]

Yeah, it's something to consider.

it's all risk taking.

you can't measure everything up to numbers, just do it like the commercial says

Chances are it all goes well or it'll went south, but then you learned from it then you can adjust and try different till it works

[Marchesk]

Now all the contenders would put a Mugsy Bogues guy on Curry. Bogues could press anybody for the full length of the court and not get tired. That's what you need for Curry. It will at least take away a portion of the 32 feet to 25 feet range which causes most of the havoc.

Remember when Tyrone Lou was put on Iverson in the 2001 finals, and Iverson was mad because Lou was being real aggressive and grabbing his jersey and what not. Iverson still got his.

[ClipperRevival]

it's all risk taking.

you can't measure everything up to numbers, just do it like the commercial says

Chances are it all goes well or it'll went south, but then you learned from it then you can adjust and try different till it works

That's the great thing about the playoffs. You can adjust anytime you want and show different looks. Coaching is a huge factor in the playoffs.

[ClipperRevival]

Now all the contenders would put a Mugsy Bogues guy on Curry. Bogues could press anybody for the full length of the court and not get tired. That's what you need for Curry. It will at least take away a portion of the 32 feet to 25 feet range which causes most of the havoc.

Yup. Having a guy being able to bother Curry's waist and below would make it harder for Curry to shoot in rhythm. Curry has shown that he can shake the taller, longer defenders. But a short, super quick guy like a Mugsy being drapped all over him is something to consider. Della tried it, had some success but he wasn't nearly as athletic and quick as a Mugsy.

[Kobe_6/8]

Remember when Tyrone Lou was put on Iverson in the 2001 finals, and Iverson was mad because Lou was being real aggressive and grabbing his jersey and what not. Iverson still got his.

Having someone to press Curry all game like Muggsy is different. It fights against the 3-point shot. Lue is a pest, Muggsy is playing a special defense.

[Pointguard]

Remember when Tyrone Lou was put on Iverson in the 2001 finals, and Iverson was mad because Lou was being real aggressive and grabbing his jersey and what not. Iverson still got his.
Bogues was a one man press. He felt like two people when he pressed you upcourt. Tyrone Lou was never Bogues by any stretch of the imagination. So be it, nobody was. But there were others that could press with great energy.

[sd3035]

There is another approach a team could try. Let Curry get his. Let him average 40+ in a series. Focus on shutting everyone else down. Make Curry beat you all by himself. Frustrate the hell out of Klay and Dray.

Confirmed retard. Yeah, let a guy who shoots almost 70% TS score at will. He's not Lebron, you can't just let him brick his team out of a series with single coverage

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[ClipperRevival]

Me being from the old school, I might also consider getting my bench warming big to come in and try to take Curry out. Of course the backlash would be unreal but if it helps my team win, I might do it. Basically what they used to do in the 80's but it was considered legal back then. Lol.

[Marchesk]

Confirmed retard. Yeah, let a guy who shoots almost 70% TS score at will.

Seems like he scores at will anyway. And that Office gif is getting old, no pun intended. And I'm not a grandpa.

[Nick Young]

Happened with MJ starting in the 1989 ECF when the 63-19 Pistons were down 2-1 to the 47-35 Bulls, mostly due to MJ. And when MJ scored 46 and hit the game winner to help Chicago go up 2-1, that is when Isiah sat by the Chicago river for hours, thinking about #23 in red. Then he along with the coaches devised the "Jordan Rules".

I can possibly see a similiar scenario brewing come playoff time if he keeps this up. At some point, a team will say, "anyone but him" and will do everything they can to stop Curry. The most obvious rule I can think of would be to just throw hard doubles at him once he gets to within 30 feet from the basket. Just get it out of his hands. And never go under the picks. The greater you are, the greater the attention you warrant from defenses.

Thoughts?
Hard doubles are suicide against the warriors with Green's passing and Klay's shooting that is almost as good as Curry's.

Curry can split hard doubles with his handles or even better pass out of them.

[leMVP]

Just like Lebron, let him get points, and shut everybody else especially Klay.

And hope that Barnes/Iggy/Dray bring their bricks to the game.

That's the only way.

Also, Stop choking against them, Cle in game 1, Clips in the first 2 games this year and okc last night, those were winnable games against the GOATs.

[buddha]

Happened with MJ starting in the 1989 ECF when the 63-19 Pistons were down 2-1 to the 47-35 Bulls, mostly due to MJ. And when MJ scored 46 and hit the game winner to help Chicago go up 2-1, that is when Isiah sat by the Chicago river for hours, thinking about #23 in red. Then he along with the coaches devised the "Jordan Rules".

I can possibly see a similiar scenario brewing come playoff time if he keeps this up. At some point, a team will say, "anyone but him" and will do everything they can to stop Curry. The most obvious rule I can think of would be to just throw hard doubles at him once he gets to within 30 feet from the basket. Just get it out of his hands. And never go under the picks. The greater you are, the greater the attention you warrant from defenses.

Thoughts?

did you not watch last years finals you jackass...

he was being double teamed at midcourt.

[ClipperRevival]

Hard doubles are suicide against the warriors with Green's passing and Klay's shooting that is almost as good as Curry's.

Curry can split hard doubles with his handles or even better pass out of them.

Yeah, against great passing teams, it can be. But my scenario hinged on the assumption that Curry would be this deadly in the playoffs, which might make a team desparate enough to get the ball out of his hands. And there is a difference between a soft double (just showing and going back to your man) and hard doubles (completely leaving your man with the intent getting the ball out of the player being doubled). In desparation, when Curry is draining 30 footers at will, a team might consider hard doubles and force anyone else to beat them. But yeah, with Klay shooting and Dray setting people up, it can be a bad idea.

[kshutts1]

Anyone else wanna see a team try some hard ball denial on Curry?

[D. Toretto]

There is another approach a team could try. Let Curry get his. Let him average 40+ in a series. Focus on shutting everyone else down. Make Curry beat you all by himself. Frustrate the hell out of Klay and Dray.

I believe this is the best possible strategy. Throwing doubles at Curry is what they're waiting for. They'll drain open threes quicker than you can say the word rotate. Make sure you shut everything else down.
Still, I'm very convinced that this won't work as well.

[dunksby]

Put a quick defensive guard on Curry just to make Curry earn it on the offensive end and shut down the rest of the scorers, on the other end set extra gritty screens on Steph to wear him down during a series. That's one of the better options but it's going to be really hard considering Warriors play proper team ball and can frustrate your own players in turn equally.

[Captvic]

Put a quick defensive guard on Curry just to make Curry earn it on the offensive end and shut down the rest of the scorers, on the other end set extra gritty screens on Steph to wear him down during a series. That's one of the better options but it's going to be really hard considering Warriors play proper team ball and can frustrate your own players in turn equally.

This is exactly why OKC is the only team that can beat them. Shouldve beat them on Saturday if Durant didnt foul out.

[Pinkhearts]

Yes, but if you're a team like the Spurs, Thunder or Clippers, you can put up points. So the question is can you let Curry get 40-50 a game nailing a bunch of threes, but hold the rest of Warriors in check so that you end up ahead.

Do you really want to waste your best defenders or bigs trying to frustrate Curry 25 feet out, when he's just as likely to beat you at some stretch in the game anyway hitting impossible threes, or do you want to not let the rest of the Warriors beat you?

I don't think you know your math. Stay in school kid.

This strategy was employed on Kobe and it seemed viable since Kobe was a 45% bricklayer shooting 2-pointers. Even so, Kobe raped them for 81 points and having successive 40 point games.

Curry shoots 3-pointers at 50%. You let him nail a bunch of threes, suddenly your team is well behind. Your team may be able to put up points, but can you put up 75% at 2-pointers? You are bound to get raped, and Curry will put up a 100 point game beating Wilt easy.

[raprap]

Hedge hard on the picks and switch. Dont double him when he has a big guy on him and let him beat the defender. I think thompson did a very good job on switches last finals against steph. They fvcked up when they tried to double him everytime. Sooner or later the dubs were gonna figure it out.

[DCL]

all his teammates can shoot. if you do that, it's just an invitation for career high nights for the other guys.

[PP34Deuce]

You can't hard double this GS team. They are better than last year.

You really need a disciplined sharp focused guard that can chase Curry around, frustrate him.

Delly ran out of gas last playoffs, but he's a very focused pesky defender. You need someone like that to stick him one on one.

Green is the catalyst of that offense. You take him out and that offense while good, becomes less. I'd focus on ways to completely take Green out of the game along with Klay.

[ralph_i_el]

Happened with MJ starting in the 1989 ECF when the 63-19 Pistons were down 2-1 to the 47-35 Bulls, mostly due to MJ. And when MJ scored 46 and hit the game winner to help Chicago go up 2-1, that is when Isiah sat by the Chicago river for hours, thinking about #23 in red. Then he along with the coaches devised the "Jordan Rules".

I can possibly see a similiar scenario brewing come playoff time if he keeps this up. At some point, a team will say, "anyone but him" and will do everything they can to stop Curry. The most obvious rule I can think of would be to just throw hard doubles at him once he gets to within 30 feet from the basket. Just get it out of his hands. And never go under the picks. The greater you are, the greater the attention you warrant from defenses.

Thoughts?

that happened in the finals. It doesn't work because Draymond is such a smart ball handler. You can't trap and double Curry, because then you're playing 4-on-3 against Dray+Thompson+Big man+Another guy who can shoot.

[ralph_i_el]

Anyone else wanna see a team try some hard ball denial on Curry?

:confusedshrug: Could work if you have a prime-Rondo level defender to dog him the entire time. Harder to deny him the ball than a Durant-type player.

[Kingwillball]

Let's be real here, the Warriors beat the Cavs last year because of two reasons:

1. Superior depth.

2. Lebron's jumper was broken.

No Irving or love hurt relates to #1 and would of cancelled #2 because even with broke jumper put up 38 ppg.

[sd3035]

Let's be real here, the Warriors beat the Cavs last year because of two reasons:

1. Superior depth.

2. Lebron's jumper was broken.


Lebald chucking 39% against single coverage cost the Cavs a chance, what a choke job that was

[Rocketswin2013]

no amount of great defense affects curry. there would have to be a scheme that doesn't allow him to shoot at all, while not going 4 on 3 or 4 on 2 on the rest of the court. gl finding that.

if curry gets the shot off, the chance of him making it is gonna be high. the quality of the look doesnt matter.

its his and the warriors league for a while. at the very least this season. ffs an elite team hasn't even won against them yet.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

Happened with MJ starting in the 1989 ECF when the 63-19 Pistons were down 2-1 to the 47-35 Bulls, mostly due to MJ. And when MJ scored 46 and hit the game winner to help Chicago go up 2-1, that is when Isiah sat by the Chicago river for hours, thinking about #23 in red. Then he along with the coaches devised the "Jordan Rules".

I can possibly see a similiar scenario brewing come playoff time if he keeps this up. At some point, a team will say, "anyone but him" and will do everything they can to stop Curry. The most obvious rule I can think of would be to just throw hard doubles at him once he gets to within 30 feet from the basket. Just get it out of his hands. And never go under the picks. The greater you are, the greater the attention you warrant from defenses.

Thoughts?


I don't think people realize the defensive attention people put on curry.

Teams already do do what you said at that last part, but that's part of what makes the Warriors function so well.

[Wa88iors]

Put a quick defensive guard on Curry just to make Curry earn it on the offensive end and shut down the rest of the scorers, on the other end set extra gritty screens on Steph to wear him down during a series. That's one of the better options but it's going to be really hard considering Warriors play proper team ball and can frustrate your own players in turn equally.
This is exactly the same quotes to the same question on ISH prior to the playoffs and during the Warrior' s playoff run last year. Cav fans found out the hard way when they sent in Delly after Curry in the finals. The only one who can contain Curry is Curry himself ie., injury. On that note. Did u see how Curry's ankle grew back in the OKC game ?? :rockon:

[sd3035]

Curry rules won't work, trying to shut down everyone else won't work because Curry's too good.

The only strategy is to wait until he decides he's bored of winning

[IncarceratedBob]

Curry cannot be stopped. Warriors are winning 3 in a row

[lilteapot]

There is another approach a team could try. Let Curry get his. Let him average 40+ in a series. Focus on shutting everyone else down. Make Curry beat you all by himself. Frustrate the hell out of Klay and Dray.

So just leave him open and let him shred you to death with 3's? Newsflash: You still need to be able to score and they can still play defense.

[SpanishACB]

the funny part is that if they made the 3 point line even wider it would still benefit Curry

[Riks]

Happened with MJ starting in the 1989 ECF when the 63-19 Pistons were down 2-1 to the 47-35 Bulls, mostly due to MJ. And when MJ scored 46 and hit the game winner to help Chicago go up 2-1, that is when Isiah sat by the Chicago river for hours, thinking about #23 in red. Then he along with the coaches devised the "Jordan Rules".

I can possibly see a similiar scenario brewing come playoff time if he keeps this up. At some point, a team will say, "anyone but him" and will do everything they can to stop Curry. The most obvious rule I can think of would be to just throw hard doubles at him once he gets to within 30 feet from the basket. Just get it out of his hands. And never go under the picks. The greater you are, the greater the attention you warrant from defenses.

Thoughts?
The problem with this is that the floor is so spaced that it is to the Warriors advantage if they double at 30 feet.

[Nuff Said]

Warriors have no weakness. They've only lost what, 4,5 games? Curry is even deadlier off the ball because he's almost forgotten and runs through screens all day to get open for a catch and shoot. There's strategies that can slow them down but they're such a good team they'll ultimately win anyways.

[Euroleague]

Happened with MJ starting in the 1989 ECF when the 63-19 Pistons were down 2-1 to the 47-35 Bulls, mostly due to MJ. And when MJ scored 46 and hit the game winner to help Chicago go up 2-1, that is when Isiah sat by the Chicago river for hours, thinking about #23 in red. Then he along with the coaches devised the "Jordan Rules".

I can possibly see a similiar scenario brewing come playoff time if he keeps this up. At some point, a team will say, "anyone but him" and will do everything they can to stop Curry. The most obvious rule I can think of would be to just throw hard doubles at him once he gets to within 30 feet from the basket. Just get it out of his hands. And never go under the picks. The greater you are, the greater the attention you warrant from defenses.

Thoughts?

If he was half as good as the media says he is, teams would have been doing that a long time ago.

He's the best player in the NBA, but still absurdly overrated, considering that teams don't really try to stop him.

[GrapeApe]

It goes against conventional wisdom with a team like the Warriors, but I would try going very small and using some different types of zones. It might disrupt their screens and close some of the passing lanes. For it to work, a team would need 5 quick players on the court. It's not something that can be sustained throughout a game, but it might be effective for stretches.

[julizaver]

That's exactly what the Cavs tried in the Finals. It didn't work.

You double him every time and the best passing team in basketball is going to make you pay.

If Kyrie is healthy and Dellavedova play his minutes as a reserve they could limit his game to human levels. The prove: if not for the last game in January where Kyrie was not 100 % and GSW kicked CAVS ass Curry made his only 30+ game on 12 from 18 FG/FGA they were prety close. And some more -Irving is still young and we have not witnessed yet his prime. Curry got some health issues and hit his prime just year and a half ago. The more Irving play till the end of the season the better he will become.

Anyway if Current sustains his shooting we could expect some contra measures by other teams, I doubt rival teams to leave him shooting 3s at 0.500 accuracy. So Curry Rules is coming in the next months.

[julizaver]

If he was half as good as the media says he is, teams would have been doing that a long time ago.

He's the best player in the NBA, but still absurdly overrated, considering that teams don't really try to stop him.

In the postseason he will face tougher defences for sure. He is not absurdly overrated, just hyped at the moment and we know why. The guy is legit and as you said - the best in the moment.

[julizaver]

Let's be real here, the Warriors beat the Cavs last year because of two reasons:

1. Superior depth.

2. Lebron's jumper was broken.

With Love and Irving injured the Cavs were doomed. Lebron never the best shooter, but when everything on his own (put an extra energy) his shooting deficiences were exposed. With that said Cavs won two games only because of him - so credit due when deserved.

[Riks]

With Love and Irving injured the Cavs were doomed. Lebron never the best shooter, but when everything on his own (put an extra energy) his shooting deficiences were exposed. With that said Cavs won two games only because of him - so credit due when deserved.
Delly got into the head of Steph for a game and a half, which happened to be the 2 games the Cavs won. Got if that credit where it is due as well.

[Euroleague]

It goes against conventional wisdom with a team like the Warriors, but I would try going very small and using some different types of zones. It might disrupt their screens and close some of the passing lanes. For it to work, a team would need 5 quick players on the court. It's not something that can be sustained throughout a game, but it might be effective for stretches.

The conventional wisdom part comes from these coaches that in general have very low IQs.

You see so many coaches in NCAA, Europe, FIBA, even Latin America that could coach circles around most of these NBA coaches.

It's the most obvious thing ever to just hard double Curry, send a help defender if he gets passed the first double, and then just play an athletic 4 man on Curry as the help defender. Then have small ball 3/4 guys at the big positions.

The fact that no NBA coach can figure that out means either all NBA coaches are retarded, or that the NBA is without any doubt totally rigged and scripted, and this is just the newest version of its entertainment show.

[Dr Seuss]

The conventional wisdom part comes from these coaches that in general have very low IQs.

You see so many coaches in NCAA, Europe, FIBA, even Latin America that could coach circles around most of these NBA coaches.

It's the most obvious thing ever to just hard double Curry, send a help defender if he gets pas the first double, and then just play an athletic 4 man on Curry as the help defender. Then have small ball 3/4 guys at the big positions - send him flying onto his ass.

The fact that no NBA coach can figure that out means either all NBA coaches are retarded, or that the NBA is without any doubt totally rigged and scripted, and this is just the newest version of its entertainment show.

or maybe because you cant hard double a team that focuses on ball movement like GSW/spurs/atl.

youre team will be dead winded by half time. imagine trying to do that for a 7 game series. every defender would constantly be trying to recover. or allowing open lanes/open jumpers.

your best bet against curry? Make him work defensively. force him around double/triple screens. get quick switches on him and have a bigger player post him up. or hit him HARD with 1 or two illegal screens.

[Euroleague]

or maybe because you cant hard double a team that focuses on ball movement like GSW/spurs/atl.

youre team will be dead winded by half time. imagine trying to do that for a 7 game series. every defender would constantly be trying to recover. or allowing open lanes/open jumpers.

your best bet against curry? Make him work defensively. force him around double/triple screens. get quick switches on him and have a bigger player post him up. or hit him HARD with 1 or two illegal screens.

Except that you actually can easily do that. Every team has players that can do that, if the coach sets it to be done.

The coach just has to have the IQ to be able to know how to do it. For example, which positions to put each player at, and how to use switches.

In the NCAA coaches would have no problem figuring it out. Which really strongly implies to me that the NBA has become so scripted that's its purely an entertainment show these days, in the same mode as WWE.

It was rigged for many years, but at this point, it's well beyond that it seems, to the point that it's just sports entertainment.

[Hey Yo]

The conventional wisdom part comes from these coaches that in general have very low IQs.

You see so many coaches in NCAA, Europe, FIBA, even Latin America that could coach circles around most of these NBA coaches.

It's the most obvious thing ever to just hard double Curry, send a help defender if he gets passed the first double, and then just play an athletic 4 man on Curry as the help defender. Then have small ball 3/4 guys at the big positions.

The fact that no NBA coach can figure that out means either all NBA coaches are retarded, or that the NBA is without any doubt totally rigged and scripted, and this is just the newest version of its entertainment show.
So your're implying that David Blatt is a retard since he didn't make the "obvious adjustments" on Curry in last seasons Finals?

[Dr Seuss]

yes, every team has players that could be used for a hard double. but the teams listed are just that good at moving the ball and moving without the ball, that youd be constantly trying to recover on defense once curry initially gives it up, giving up tons of open looks.

maybe it slows the warriors/curry down, but i see it handicapping the opposition much more, seeing that the dubs are a COMPLETE team and not just one superstar parading with a team of stop-gap players.

[Hey Yo]

yes, every team has players that could be used for a hard double. but the teams listed are just that good at moving the ball and moving without the ball, that youd be constantly trying to recover on defense once curry initially gives it up, giving up tons of open looks.

maybe it slows the warriors/curry down, but i see it handicapping the opposition much more, seeing that the dubs are a COMPLETE team and not just one superstar parading with a team of stop-gap players.
That's absurd!

We know that Curry is so dumb, he would wait until the hard double got right in his face before he stopped dribbling to look for the pass/open man.



end of sarcasm/

[PP34Deuce]

My strategy for limiting the warriors would be...

Take Draymond Green out of the game and sparsely double Klay.

Curry is Curry. He can pass out the double team and he can move without the ball.

Reason for doubling Klay: He doesn't receive that many doubles. You want to force turnovers. Depending on your personnel, double him at certain times while having a guard stick to Curry best he can.

Draymond Green:
Very emotional player. More likely to make a mistake in the heat of the moment. If I'm the Spurs or OKC, I take advantage of this. You need to force him to be a scorer as opposed to a distributor. I'll live with Green shooting jumpers. Lengthy defenders like Steve Adams that are mobile can be good to bother him.

Klay and Green are the players you want to limit..They are the cogs that make the offense flow set wise.

[hold this L]

The conventional wisdom part comes from these coaches that in general have very low IQs.

You see so many coaches in NCAA, Europe, FIBA, even Latin America that could coach circles around most of these NBA coaches.

It's the most obvious thing ever to just hard double Curry, send a help defender if he gets passed the first double, and then just play an athletic 4 man on Curry as the help defender. Then have small ball 3/4 guys at the big positions.

The fact that no NBA coach can figure that out means either all NBA coaches are retarded, or that the NBA is without any doubt totally rigged and scripted, and this is just the newest version of its entertainment show.
You can't hard double Curry. There is one team that did that and hammed that point across through and through the entire game. Cavs in Cleveland this year. That was the one game that Curry got doubled more than any other this season and he and Green completely destroyed them. The problem is that Curry has the best awareness of any player in the court on top of having the vision and passing skill to pass it off at the right time. He will pass it off right when two players commit just enough that it gives his team enough time for a 4v3 to get the buckets.

Another problem is that he is effective off the ball. He doesn't need to bring up the ball half the game if need be. Just stand around and side step for a second to get the ball while his team is moving around and hit a 3. Hard double seems good in theory, but I just don't see how this can work as of this time considering Curry's skills and his teammates constant movement on and off the ball.

[hold this L]

If he was half as good as the media says he is, teams would have been doing that a long time ago.

He's the best player in the NBA, but still absurdly overrated, considering that teams don't really try to stop him.
And this is complete fvcking nonsense.

[ReturnofJPR]

Just injure his ankles, put a foot under him when he jumps, problem solved.

Where are the Bruce Bowens of today's league? I agree with Charles Barkely, horrible basketball being played this season..

[Nick Young]

Except that you actually can easily do that. Every team has players that can do that, if the coach sets it to be done.

The coach just has to have the IQ to be able to know how to do it. For example, which positions to put each player at, and how to use switches.

In the NCAA coaches would have no problem figuring it out. Which really strongly implies to me that the NBA has become so scripted that's its purely an entertainment show these days, in the same mode as WWE.

It was rigged for many years, but at this point, it's well beyond that it seems, to the point that it's just sports entertainment.
Curry>Spanoulis


That's right. I said it.

[ClipperRevival]

Curry's outrageous range from the regular season has been shrinked to normal range these playoffs. He's had plenty of chances to shoot those 25-28 footers but has passed on them. He's been even somewhat hesitant from normal range.

"Jordan Rules" type attention is still reserved for only one PERIMETER player in NBA history and that is the GOAT.

:bowdown:

[warriorfan]

Curry's outrageous range from the regular season has been shrinked to normal range these playoffs. He's had plenty of chances to shoot those 25-28 footers but has passed on them. He's been even somewhat hesitant from normal range.

"Jordan Rules" type attention is still reserved for only one PERIMETER player in NBA history and that is the GOAT.

:bowdown:

Curry's MCL injury has effected his ability to get his legs into the shot, causing a drop from Curry's normal range

Curry has been shooting at that range for years and did it all last years playoffs. There is a reason why his range dropped as soon as his MCL injury appeared. You trying to say this is a coincidence?

[PickernRoller]

The Curry rules will be simple.

Screens of any sort are illegal. It will probably expose the whole league too. 1-on1 masters hardly exist in this PnR league.

[ClipperRevival]

Curry's MCL injury has effected his ability to get his legs into the shot, causing a drop from Curry's normal range

Curry has been shooting at that range for years and did it all last years playoffs. There is a reason why his range dropped as soon as his MCL injury appeared. You trying to say this is a coincidence?

If you are saying that OKC's athleticism, length, size and physicality didn't deter Curry in stretches, I would say you are being a biased Curry fan. Given the fact that Curry doesn't fear the moment, I would give some leeway but come on. He lacked that fire for stretches because of OKC.

[AintNoSunshine]

You mean the Klay Rules?

[warriorfan]

If you are saying that OKC's athleticism, length, size and physicality didn't deter Curry in stretches, I would say you are being a biased Curry fan. Given the fact that Curry doesn't fear the moment, I would give some leeway but come on. He lacked that fire for stretches because of OKC.

he has that shot whenever he wants whoever he is against, the only way to stop it is to double team from 25+ feet out

he has played OKC before and he buried them, in fact he buried them with the same shot that you say "he lost", but he didn't lose anything, he is coming back from an MCL injury, you use your legs when you shoot, your knee is part of your leg, if you dont have your legs your shot is off, usually short. this is pretty straightforward...

[livinglegend]

he has that shot whenever he wants whoever he is against, the only way to stop it is to double team from 25+ feet out

he has played OKC before and he buried them, in fact he buried them with the same shot that you say "he lost", but he didn't lose anything, he is coming back from an MCL injury, you use your legs when you shoot, your knee is part of your leg, if you dont have your legs your shot is off, usually short. this is pretty straightforward...

Repeating the same lie over and over again won't make it true.
No one is buying the injury crap anymore.
Get over it and let it go.

[warriorfan]

Repeating the same lie over and over again won't make it true.
No one is buying the injury crap anymore.
Get over it and let it go.

injuring your mcl makes it so you cant use as much power in your legs which effects your shot, especially deep ones

are you really going to argue against this lmao?

u dont know ball

[ClipperRevival]

he has that shot whenever he wants whoever he is against, the only way to stop it is to double team from 25+ feet out

he has played OKC before and he buried them, in fact he buried them with the same shot that you say "he lost", but he didn't lose anything, he is coming back from an MCL injury, you use your legs when you shoot, your knee is part of your leg, if you dont have your legs your shot is off, usually short. this is pretty straightforward...

I have seen plenty of situations in this series where Curry could've easily pulled up from 25-28 feet but he didn't. The theory by some that he peaked against OKC when he hit that near 40 footer holds true in that that might've been the most confident he will ever be. Sh't, that dude was C walking after that shot. :roll:

Not taking anything away from him but I have not seen the same deadliness from him in this series. That might change against Cleveland, who doesn't have as much size, physicality and length but we'll have to see.

[livinglegend]

injuring your mcl makes it so you cant use as much power in your legs which effects your shot, especially deep ones

are you really going to argue against this lmao?

u dont know ball

How much time has passed since his injury?
More than 1-2 weeks?
If yes, then he is already recovered. Professional atheletes need 1-2 weeks to recover from MCL sprain grade 1.
You don't have any good source to prove that he is injured.
When you find a source to prove it, then we will believe you. Otherwise, the consensus is that he already recovered from it and he is good.

[warriorfan]

How much time has passed since his injury?
More than 1-2 weeks?
If yes, then he is already recovered. Professional atheletes need 1-2 weeks to recover from MCL sprain grade 1.

1-2 weeks is the time frame for being able to walk up and down stairs, not professional NBA activity

[livinglegend]

1-2 weeks is the time frame for being able to walk up and down stairs, not professional NBA activity

You got sources to prove this claim?
Your statements with prove mean absolutely nothing.

[Asukal]

injuring your mcl makes it so you cant use as much power in your legs which effects your shot, especially deep ones

are you really going to argue against this lmao?

u dont know ball

Curry himself is not making an injury excuse. Stan much. :rolleyes: