Was that a lifetime achievement nod for Leo?

[Im Still Ballin]

I think he has to thank social media trends and meme culture for this win

Did he deserve it this year? Meh maybe. No doubt that the things mentioned above helped a hell of a lot.

[Lebron23]

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He had a much better acting performance in What's Eating Gilbert Drapes, and the Aviator.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Never saw the Aviator but I remember back then, people felt he should have won for that. The Revenant was a better performance than Wolf of Wall Street (the acting wasn't complex enough to really result in an Oscar nod and Inception was one that I feel he had a decent chance at). Blood Diamond often got mixed reviews. Those who really know the South African accent said he didn't get it correctly but I've met others who are similar with it and said it was very close to it. I thought he was brilliant in the movie. In terms of raw acting, I think it was my favorite of his. One of his best movies too. I enjoyed it far more than The Revenant.

The complexity of Leo's character in The Revenant makes me feel it was well deserved but long overdue. He should have had 2 or 3 by now. Nicholas Cage having an Oscar while Leo didn't during their earlier days is absolutely absurd. Nicholas Cage was an OK actor in a lot of OK and bad movies. Leo's movies were all at least solid 7.5s/10. He was amazing in Basketball Diaries. One of his most underrated movies. Not Oscar worthy acting, he was still young and learning the ropes. Mark Wahlberg was good in this one too. The only thing we really haven't seen Leo in terms of movies are romantic comedies (doesn't fit his acting at all though) and war movies (this I've always wondered if he can pull it off).

[JohnFreeman]

Revenant was cool but it was no oscar winner

[Im Still Ballin]

Did this you just throw shade on King Cage?

He definitely deserved that oscar

[Velocirap31]

All that really matters is that Leo's movies do very well and make a lot of money. I know that if I see any movie preview and he is in it, I automatically assume it is going to be a very good movie because he doesn't waste his time with junk.

Some people think he is overrated, but go see even his earliest movies like the Basketball Diaries or What's Eating Gilbert Grape. He is one of the most talented actors in history.

[FillJackson]

I think he has to thank social media trends and meme culture for this win
Do you think Academy Awards voters are actually aware of meme culture?

You basically get to be an Academy voter by having your career in movies recognized and you are appointed for life thus the average age of an Academy voter is 63.

Danny Trejo from "Machete" just got to be a voter three years ago. Danny Trejo is 71 years old.

[FillJackson]

Also I think if he wasn't playing such a gleefully loathsome character in Wolf of Wall Street, he would have won. His physical acting in that was amazing.

[Im Still Ballin]

Do you think Academy Awards voters are actually aware of meme culture?

You basically get to be an Academy voter by having your career in movies recognized and you are appointed for life thus the average age of an Academy voter is 63.

Danny Trejo from "Machete" just got to be a voter three years ago. Danny Trejo is 71 years old.
Did you watch the show last night? The whole thing was a Social Justice Warrior circlejerk

Social Media most definitely plays a role in these things

It's just another extended form of reception

[Thorpesaurous]

It's not my favorite Leo performance, but it was excellent. The real reason it wasn't a lifetime award though was because it wasn't a great field this year. Not enough people saw The Danish Girl or Jobs, both of which I heard those guys were excellent in, although not to the point of being good enough where I felt compelled to go see either, and I go to a lot of movies, and Trumbo just wasn't well received enough. And while I seemed to like The Martian more than most, and thought Damon was better than the general belief (again, probably because I read the book and thought he was pretty spot on to the character, although I wasn't as that crazy about the character), there really wasn't a real challenger to Leo this year.


It's a little like Scorcese's best picture. That often gets called a lifetime achievement award. And it's true that it's probably not even a top five Scorcese flick, however Babel, Little Miss Sunshine, The Queen, and Letters from Iwo Jima were the competition. Babel and LMS were good movies. But nothing there was particularly memorable.

[Im Still Ballin]

Just to clarify

I think he deserved the win just based on this year alone

But I do think that social media certainly helped

[~primetime~]

Fassbender >>>>


I haven't seen Steve Jobs yet but I already know he did better in that than Leo has done in any movie.

[FillJackson]

Did you watch the show last night? The whole thing was a Social Justice Warrior circlejerk

Social Media most definitely plays a role in these things

It's just another extended form of reception
The folks who put on the show is not the same population as the voters.

[Velocirap31]

Fassbender >>>>


I haven't seen Steve Jobs yet but I already know he did better in that than Leo has done in any movie.

:facepalm

[FillJackson]

Also, I'm older than most folks here, but still way younger than Academy voters and I have some credits on imdb, and I don't know the memes you referring to.

[Doomsday Dallas]

All I know is Tom Hardy's performance in the Revenant was better than Leo's.

Leo's performance was Oscar worthy... but if you give him the Oscar, give
Hardy the Oscar for supporting.




Hardy got robbed... Leo had no choice but to give him a shout out in the speech.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Tom deserves an Oscar purely on his ability to convince people that hes actually a good actor - Its truly astonishing. Dude has like 10 different accents in a movie, yet people still claim he gave an amazing performance. Dude mumbles his entire dialogue in a film (Revanant and Batman), still amazing. Dude has three lines in a sidekick role to Charlize Theron in his own film, still called amazing.

Hes the best actor in history to convince/trick an audience into believing his terrible acting was actually good.



Don't care about his other recent performances...

He kicked @ss in The Revenant... That is not an opinion to be debated, that is a fact to be acknowledged.

[Legends66NBA7]

All I know is Tom Hardy's performance in the Revenant was better than Leo's.

Leo's performance was Oscar worthy... but if you give him the Oscar, give
Hardy the Oscar for supporting.




Hardy got robbed... Leo had no choice but to give him a shout out in the speech.

This.

Definitely thought Hardy was better than Leo in Revenant. The perfect villian role, even though Leo was no slouch himself.

[CelticBaller]

Fassbender >>>>


I haven't seen Steve Jobs yet but I already know he did better in that than Leo has done in any movie.
:oldlol:

[TheMan]

Fassbender >>>>


I haven't seen Steve Jobs yet but I already know he did better in that than Leo has done in any movie.
:facepalm

[~primetime~]

Fassbender is DEFINITELY a more skilled actor than Leo. I don't even view that as opinion, pretty much just fact.

[Thorpesaurous]

This.

Definitely thought Hardy was better than Leo in Revenant. The perfect villian role, even though Leo was no slouch himself.


I thought Hardy was great too, but supporting was pretty loaded this year. I'm actually surprised Stallone didn't win it just because of who he and the character are. And that said, the only movie I didn't see of the bunch was the one the winner came from, Bridge or Spies, and I thought Ruffalo was killer in the movie that won best picture, and is the guy I would've voted for. And I thought Bale was really good too, just felt the character was disjointed a bit from the story.

In fact, as much as I liked The Big Short, I'm surprised it got that adapted screenplay award. I'm never quite sure what they're looking for in that category, is the quality of the screenplay, or how well it's adapted. So if the original material has a weakness, does the fact that it's adapted true to the material count as a good thing?

And how does Spotlight count as original if it's adapted from an actual newspaper series? Or is it original because it's about the writing of the newspaper series?

I'm happy Mad Max did so well in the technical stuff. It was a really well built film and did what it set out to do very well. It just wasn't intended to do much other than tell it's very explicit escape story.

[FillJackson]

I thought Hardy was great too, but supporting was pretty loaded this year. I'm actually surprised Stallone didn't win it just because of who he and the character are. And that said, the only movie I didn't see of the bunch was the one the winner came from, Bridge or Spies, and I thought Ruffalo was killer in the movie that won best picture, and is the guy I would've voted for. And I thought Bale was really good too, just felt the character was disjointed a bit from the story.

In fact, as much as I liked The Big Short, I'm surprised it got that adapted screenplay award. I'm never quite sure what they're looking for in that category, is the quality of the screenplay, or how well it's adapted. So if the original material has a weakness, does the fact that it's adapted true to the material count as a good thing?

And how does Spotlight count as original if it's adapted from an actual newspaper series? Or is it original because it's about the writing of the newspaper series?

I'm happy Mad Max did so well in the technical stuff. It was a really well built film and did what it set out to do very well. It just wasn't intended to do much other than tell it's very explicit escape story.

Spotlight counts for original for the latter reason, it's the story about the reporting, it's about real events but there is no source story it's based on. The reporters didn't write about themselves in their reports and it's not like it was based on a reporter's memoir.

I think Big Short won because, it's not obvious at all how to make that book into a movie. It also found a clever way to use the strength of the book --the way it described the technical finance stuff-- into cinema. I liked all the acting in Spotlight, but didn't think Ruffalo was any better than the others.

Bale is kind of disjointed from the story in the book too.

I think the strengths of Fury Road wasn't really the story, kind of like Blade Runner, the world it created was the best part and then the constant action. The plot was all about keeping the action going. The opening 20 minutes are fantastic.

[Nick Young]

Never saw the Aviator but I remember back then, people felt he should have won for that. The Revenant was a better performance than Wolf of Wall Street (the acting wasn't complex enough to really result in an Oscar nod and Inception was one that I feel he had a decent chance at). Blood Diamond often got mixed reviews. Those who really know the South African accent said he didn't get it correctly but I've met others who are similar with it and said it was very close to it. I thought he was brilliant in the movie. In terms of raw acting, I think it was my favorite of his. One of his best movies too. I enjoyed it far more than The Revenant.

The complexity of Leo's character in The Revenant makes me feel it was well deserved but long overdue. He should have had 2 or 3 by now. Nicholas Cage having an Oscar while Leo didn't during their earlier days is absolutely absurd. Nicholas Cage was an OK actor in a lot of OK and bad movies. Leo's movies were all at least solid 7.5s/10. He was amazing in Basketball Diaries. One of his most underrated movies. Not Oscar worthy acting, he was still young and learning the ropes. Mark Wahlberg was good in this one too. The only thing we really haven't seen Leo in terms of movies are romantic comedies (doesn't fit his acting at all though) and war movies (this I've always wondered if he can pull it off).
Blood Diamond is one of the most dated melodramas I've watched in recent times, and Leo's SA accent is pantomime. I think he is a great actor but I don't understand the praise he got for this performance.

[Thorpesaurous]

Spotlight counts for original for the latter reason, it's the story about the reporting, it's about real events but there is no source story it's based on. The reporters didn't write about themselves in their reports and it's not like it was based on a reporter's memoir.

I think Big Short won because, it's not obvious at all how to make that book into a movie. It also found a clever way to use the strength of the book --the way it described the technical finance stuff-- into cinema. I liked all the acting in Spotlight, but didn't think Ruffalo was any better than the others.

Bale is kind of disjointed from the story in the book too.

I think the strengths of Fury Road wasn't really the story, kind of like Blade Runner, the world it created was the best part and then the constant action. The plot was all about keeping the action going. The opening 20 minutes are fantastic.


That's what I figured about the screenplay stuff. But Zodiac was considered an adaptation, and that's something I saw and loved, and it's one of my favorite books ever, and that film doesn't really use the book as source material. The film has more to do with the author's obsession over the case than it does with the case in general.

I have a couple friends who're in the writing guild and they've never been able to answer if the adapted is given credit for the quality of the adaptation or more for the straight quality of the script using regardless of how true to the source it is, or if the source is just a source of inspiration.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

All I know is Tom Hardy's performance in the Revenant was better than Leo's.

Leo's performance was Oscar worthy... but if you give him the Oscar, give
Hardy the Oscar for supporting.




Hardy got robbed... Leo had no choice but to give him a shout out in the speech.

Agree completely. Hardy had the better performance by quite a bit

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Spotlight counts for original for the latter reason, it's the story about the reporting, it's about real events but there is no source story it's based on. The reporters didn't write about themselves in their reports and it's not like it was based on a reporter's memoir.

I think Big Short won because, it's not obvious at all how to make that book into a movie. It also found a clever way to use the strength of the book --the way it described the technical finance stuff-- into cinema. I liked all the acting in Spotlight, but didn't think Ruffalo was any better than the others.

Bale is kind of disjointed from the story in the book too.

I think the strengths of Fury Road wasn't really the story, kind of like Blade Runner, the world it created was the best part and then the constant action. The plot was all about keeping the action going. The opening 20 minutes are fantastic.

Spotlight was a hidden gem this year. So few people I know watched it because the plot line about the Catholic Church is quite dark. It was very well produced and the Spotlight guy named Mark Ruffalo had a very impressive performance as a supporting character (I watched this movie with friends and right after the movie, we all noted his performance).

[Riks]

He deserved it only because the other performances this year were not that great. This however was only his 3rd or 4th best performance of his own.