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Nick Young
02-29-2016, 04:50 PM
Klay and Steph are teammates and good bros.

Steph came in the league with a great jump shot and shaky handles, so did Klay.

Since coming in to the league, Steph has worked on his handles to the point where they are one of his biggest strengths, and he has become hands down the greatest shooter of all time.

Klay still has a great shot but he isn't capable of consistently hitting pull-up 32 footers like Curry can, and his handles are still bad.


Why doesn't Klay follow Curry's training blueprint for greatness? What is stopping him? He may never be as great as Curry but what's stopping him from training his handles like Curry did?

MoBe1Kanobi
02-29-2016, 04:57 PM
I've gone over this in my head a million times

Klay is a more capable player than steph

The reason he's not as successful statistically is this

...

He's not as selfish as steph

/thread

Riks
02-29-2016, 04:59 PM
I've gone over this in my head a million times

Klay is a more capable player than steph

The reason he's not as successful statistically is this

...

He's not as selfish as steph

/thread
Really? That was your conclusion? Had nothing to do with effort, or focus, or any other possibilities?

WorldWarriors
02-29-2016, 05:14 PM
I've gone over this in my head a million times

Klay is a more capable player than steph

The reason he's not as successful statistically is this

...

He's not as selfish as steph

/thread

LOL Klay can be more selfish than Steph on the court. There are times he has to be told to pass the ball. But that's him while playing. Now as a team mate and accolades he's very unselfish. He doesn't care that he doesn't get the glory. But he does like to shoot, lol. It's like he has a one track mind.

WorldWarriors
02-29-2016, 05:15 PM
Klay and Steph are teammates and good bros.

Steph came in the league with a great jump shot and shaky handles, so did Klay.

Since coming in to the league, Steph has worked on his handles to the point where they are one of his biggest strengths, and he has become hands down the greatest shooter of all time.

Klay still has a great shot but he isn't capable of consistently hitting pull-up 32 footers like Curry can, and his handles are still bad.


Why doesn't Klay follow Curry's training blueprint for greatness? What is stopping him? He may never be as great as Curry but what's stopping him from training his handles like Curry did?

Curry was drafted into the league to be a point guard. He had to improve his handles to survive. Nellie told him as a point guard that at no time was he to average more shot attempts than assists. :oldlol: Klay is a 2 guard. He doesn't need all of that.

MoBe1Kanobi
02-29-2016, 06:04 PM
Really? That was your conclusion? Had nothing to do with effort, or focus, or any other possibilities?

Nope

Its 100% about the confidence that comes from chucking as if nobodys watching and because EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON EARTH IS ENCOURAGING CHUCKING OVERDRIBBLING BASKETBALL from steph curry he only feels more confident to play that way routinely since the warriors will win regardless of how he chooses to include his teammates

If Klay was given the same green light as Curry you would basically be seeing curry + 6 inches

But since curry is a point guard dribbling dribbling DRIBBLING all day running around screens getting into a rhythym since he feels the entire weight of the team bending over backwards to get him feeling confident and worry free on the court he feels ENTITLED to take shots as if he's playing with Kwame and Smush even though he has all star after all star on his lineup and bench

Whereas Klay..

the same Klay that calmly destroyed the 3 point shootout and still has showed the hottest 8 minutes of nba basketball to date..

is allowed to be used in a Kyle Korver off ball fashion instead of being utilized to develop all his skills like steph gets to

Klay can run point EXTREMELY EFFECTIVELY if he's given MEANINGLESS REGULAR SEASON minutes to develop that skill

but no

Curry needs to do crossovers all game for all the little 9 year old under armour fan boys who cant wait to wet themselves when the opposing defender trips over his own feet after watching steph spam crossover after crossover after crossover for 15 straight possesions mixed with some pick n rolls

Overdrive
02-29-2016, 06:14 PM
Idiosyncrasies. Not every player can get to any level in any skill area just by training.

Nuff Said
02-29-2016, 06:44 PM
Nope

Its 100% about the confidence that comes from chucking as if nobodys watching and because EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON EARTH IS ENCOURAGING CHUCKING OVERDRIBBLING BASKETBALL from steph curry he only feels more confident to play that way routinely since the warriors will win regardless of how he chooses to include his teammates

If Klay was given the same green light as Curry you would basically be seeing curry + 6 inches

But since curry is a point guard dribbling dribbling DRIBBLING all day running around screens getting into a rhythym since he feels the entire weight of the team bending over backwards to get him feeling confident and worry free on the court he feels ENTITLED to take shots as if he's playing with Kwame and Smush even though he has all star after all star on his lineup and bench

Whereas Klay..

the same Klay that calmly destroyed the 3 point shootout and still has showed the hottest 8 minutes of nba basketball to date..

is allowed to be used in a Kyle Korver off ball fashion instead of being utilized to develop all his skills like steph gets to

Klay can run point EXTREMELY EFFECTIVELY if he's given MEANINGLESS REGULAR SEASON minutes to develop that skill

but no

Curry needs to do crossovers all game for all the little 9 year old under armour fan boys who cant wait to wet themselves when the opposing defender trips over his own feet after watching steph spam crossover after crossover after crossover for 15 straight possesions mixed with some pick n rolls

Gtfo. I don't know klay's training regimen so I can't say whether or not he does train the same but I do know in your free time you're free to do as you choose. If klay doesn't want to practice his handles to better increase his game then that's on him. He's a shooting guard, he doesn't need to dribble.

lilteapot
02-29-2016, 06:45 PM
Because Steph's training regimen is so insane that he's probably the only one that can even do it.

MoBe1Kanobi
02-29-2016, 06:50 PM
Idiosyncrasies. Not every player can get to any level in any skill area just by training.

This is true

But like I stated earlier above

Any player

Literally

Any player can turn into steph curry when given the INSTITUTIONALIZED level of confidence he's given from all levels

Media

Organizational (systematic chucking)

Promotional (Under Armour + AdamSilver NBA rule changes)

Racial (middle America is pulling for his success and puts his family all over TV)

the perfect storm for the most perfect imperfect player in steph

Remember J Lin?

Confidence on all levels can create the perfect storm

Remember at the end of the day

It's just throwing a ball into a basket as best as possible

Tons of ways you can do it and millions of people are all equally effective at it when they're in there groove

But even if you have all the confidence in the world and you can shoot like Stephen

It still doesn't matter if you haven't won over..

The media, your organization, the league office and outside sponsors, and middle America

:coleman:

And yall ****** really thought this shit was X's and O's and about basketball?

Lol funny

Brujesino
02-29-2016, 06:52 PM
Not everyone is going to be great at everything.

Brujesino
02-29-2016, 06:52 PM
This is true

But like I stated earlier above

Any player

Literally

Any player can turn into steph curry when given the INSTITUTIONALIZED level of confidence he's given from all levels

Media

Organizational (systematic chucking)

Promotional (Under Armour + AdamSilver NBA rule changes)

Racial (middle America is pulling for his success and puts his family all over TV)

the perfect storm for the most perfect imperfect player in steph

Remember J Lin?

Confidence on all levels can create the perfect storm

Remember at the end of the day

It's just throwing a ball into a basket as best as possible

Tons of ways you can do it and millions of people are all equally effective at it when they're in there groove

But even if you have all the confidence in the world and you can shoot like Stephen

It still doesn't matter if you haven't won over..

The media, your organization, the league office and outside sponsors, and middle America

:coleman:

And yall ****** really thought this shit was X's and O's and about basketball?

Lol funny
The fvck is this? Go back to school and learn to put sentences together.

lilteapot
02-29-2016, 06:55 PM
The fvck is this? Go back to school and learn to put sentences together.
:lol

MoBe1Kanobi
02-29-2016, 06:55 PM
The fvck is this? Go back to school and learn to put sentences together.

I see tons of sentences idiot

No paragraphs

Learn how to criticize correctly before you speak next time u fakkit

dazzer87
02-29-2016, 06:58 PM
Does this look like a player who gives a sh!t?
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/klay-fouled-out.jpg

Brujesino
02-29-2016, 06:59 PM
I see tons of sentences idiot

No paragraphs

Learn how to criticize correctly before you speak next time u fakkit
You need periods at the end of those "sentences" to be sentences, you fvck.

Brujesino
02-29-2016, 07:00 PM
Does this look like a player who gives a sh!t?
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/klay-fouled-out.jpg
:oldlol: :bowdown:

MoBe1Kanobi
02-29-2016, 07:09 PM
Does this look like a player who gives a sh!t?
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/klay-fouled-out.jpg

I've also said numerous times

His weed habit does effect him a little bit

He's much more of an introvert than even young Kobe

That mixed with being a quiet stoner who just likes to chill

He's much more team minded because of all of this

Whereas Mr Bright and Bubbly Steph Curry is all extra family man no liquor no weed no loose women and is an extrovert thus...

The reason why we have 2 lights out shooters of equal ability (Klay is a better pure shooter btw) yet one is in the Jordan convo(stupidly) and the other is just a perennial all star at his worst

livingby3's
02-29-2016, 07:22 PM
Because Klay is busy with defensive drills

RoseCity07
02-29-2016, 07:26 PM
Due to Klay Thomspon's height and build I doubt he could ever be as agile as Curry. That's what is needed to be that good. Having great handles isn't enough. Kyrie has handles, Jamal Crawford has handles, neither have the agility of Curry when he dribbles in traffic.

Funktion
02-29-2016, 07:28 PM
Klay too busy phuckin porn stars and slayin instagram hoes behind closed doors. Livin that playboy lifestyle.

CarlosBoozer
02-29-2016, 07:30 PM
Due to Klay Thomspon's height and build I doubt he could ever be as agile as Curry. That's what is needed to be that good. Having great handles isn't enough. Kyrie has handles, Jamal Crawford has handles, neither have the agility of Curry when he dribbles in traffic.
Durant is a good example too, 6'11 with good handles and great agility that few possesize at his size.

theaussieguy
02-29-2016, 07:52 PM
I've also said numerous times

His weed habit does effect him a little bit

He's much more of an introvert than even young Kobe

That mixed with being a quiet stoner who just likes to chill

He's much more team minded because of all of this

Whereas Mr Bright and Bubbly Steph Curry is all extra family man no liquor no weed no loose women and is an extrovert thus...

The reason why we have 2 lights out shooters of equal ability (Klay is a better pure shooter btw) yet one is in the Jordan convo(stupidly) and the other is just a perennial all star at his worst

hahah so true, I honestly don't even think him and steph are particularly good bros Klay is just an all round chill dude. In Stephs MVP speech he said "yo Klay, my splashbrother, I know ur very quiet, don't like to talk much etc etc"

ArbitraryWater
02-29-2016, 07:53 PM
Why didnt you, OP?

What a dumb question... not everyone can do things as good as a top 10 GOAT :facepalm

Klay not nearly as talented

hold this L
02-29-2016, 07:57 PM
This is true

But like I stated earlier above

Any player

Literally

Any player can turn into steph curry when given the INSTITUTIONALIZED level of confidence he's given from all levels

Media

Organizational (systematic chucking)

Promotional (Under Armour + AdamSilver NBA rule changes)

Racial (middle America is pulling for his success and puts his family all over TV)

the perfect storm for the most perfect imperfect player in steph

Remember J Lin?

Confidence on all levels can create the perfect storm

Remember at the end of the day

It's just throwing a ball into a basket as best as possible

Tons of ways you can do it and millions of people are all equally effective at it when they're in there groove

But even if you have all the confidence in the world and you can shoot like Stephen

It still doesn't matter if you haven't won over..

The media, your organization, the league office and outside sponsors, and middle America

:coleman:

And yall ****** really thought this shit was X's and O's and about basketball?

Lol funny
Are you slamming your head to hit the enter key every time you type a few words or what? What the **** is wrong with you?

:biggums:

ralph_i_el
02-29-2016, 08:19 PM
maybe he is?

He's 25. How much worse is he than 25 year old Curry?

Maybe he'll be the GOAT in 2 years.

WorldWarriors
02-29-2016, 08:29 PM
maybe he is?

He's 25. How much worse is he than 25 year old Curry?

Maybe he'll be the GOAT in 2 years.

That would be something to see.:rockon:

Smoke117
02-29-2016, 08:31 PM
Klay and Steph are teammates and good bros.

Steph came in the league with a great jump shot and shaky handles, so did Klay.

Since coming in to the league, Steph has worked on his handles to the point where they are one of his biggest strengths, and he has become hands down the greatest shooter of all time.

Klay still has a great shot but he isn't capable of consistently hitting pull-up 32 footers like Curry can, and his handles are still bad.


Why doesn't Klay follow Curry's training blueprint for greatness? What is stopping him? He may never be as great as Curry but what's stopping him from training his handles like Curry did?

Who the hell else can? This is some dumb ass typical Nick Young logic.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
02-29-2016, 08:41 PM
Anybody see Curry participating in those "reflex" tests? Basically he works with a motion sensor, and wherever it blinks on the board, he taps it while simultaneously dribbling, working on handles with his off hand.

The purpose of the exercise is to take your mind off dribbling, focusing on whatever action might present itself on the basketball floor.

His reflexes are off the charts, by the way.

MoBe1Kanobi
02-29-2016, 08:45 PM
hahah so true, I honestly don't even think him and steph are particularly good bros Klay is just an all round chill dude. In Stephs MVP speech he said "yo Klay, my splashbrother, I know ur very quiet, don't like to talk much etc etc"

Klay even said at the championship parade about steph

"You want to hate the guy but he makes it difficult most of the time"

And this is in public to your superstar teammate who everyone loves and they have a weak talking relationship to begin with

I'm telling you

Klay definitely thinks curry is a ballhog but he's too team oriented and humble to make a fuss

See klays body language when steph got ripped by gallo, disgusted at the level of hoggery and selfishness of curry at such a crucial moment that he had to let it out

sd3035
02-29-2016, 08:53 PM
Curry is one of the hardest working players in the history of the game, now he's reaping the benefits

tmacattack33
02-29-2016, 09:01 PM
Klay and Steph are teammates and good bros.

Steph came in the league with a great jump shot and shaky handles, so did Klay.

Since coming in to the league, Steph has worked on his handles to the point where they are one of his biggest strengths, and he has become hands down the greatest shooter of all time.

Klay still has a great shot but he isn't capable of consistently hitting pull-up 32 footers like Curry can, and his handles are still bad.


Why doesn't Klay follow Curry's training blueprint for greatness? What is stopping him? He may never be as great as Curry but what's stopping him from training his handles like Curry did?

Following the same training regime doesn't mean much. If it did, you could ask the same thing for any other team...why can't Ibaka shoot threes? Can't he just ask Durant to help him out in practice?

julizaver
03-01-2016, 04:55 AM
There are not the same. Besides the fact that Klay is 2 years younger, Curry was the more promising player. As a sharpshooter Klay is close to Curry but in no way better. The level Curry is playing now for me is beyound Klay's capabilities. In his best seasons Klay could be a 25 ppg efficient scorer and that is.

MoBe1Kanobi
03-01-2016, 01:37 PM
There are not the same. Besides the fact that Klay is 2 years younger, Curry was the more promising player. As a sharpshooter Klay is close to Curry but in no way better. The level Curry is playing now for me is beyound Klay's capabilities. In his best seasons Klay could be a 25 ppg efficient scorer and that is.

How is it beyond klay capabilities when he's taller and more athletic than steph with a note natural shooting touch..?

dubnation
03-01-2016, 01:46 PM
This is true

But like I stated earlier above

Any player

Literally

Any player can turn into steph curry when given the INSTITUTIONALIZED level of confidence he's given from all levels

Media

Organizational (systematic chucking)

Promotional (Under Armour + AdamSilver NBA rule changes)

Racial (middle America is pulling for his success and puts his family all over TV)

the perfect storm for the most perfect imperfect player in steph

Remember J Lin?

Confidence on all levels can create the perfect storm

Remember at the end of the day

It's just throwing a ball into a basket as best as possible

Tons of ways you can do it and millions of people are all equally effective at it when they're in there groove

But even if you have all the confidence in the world and you can shoot like Stephen

It still doesn't matter if you haven't won over..

The media, your organization, the league office and outside sponsors, and middle America

:coleman:

And yall ****** really thought this shit was X's and O's and about basketball?

Lol funny

I don't know if you're trolling but damn your posts in this thread are some of the most retarded sh*t I've ever read.

:biggums:

MoBe1Kanobi
03-01-2016, 03:23 PM
I don't know if you're trolling but damn your posts in this thread are some of the most retarded sh*t I've ever read.

:biggums:


really?

i believe everything i have said has strong basis to it if you choose to build your own narrative based on the given info and stop treating everything espn says about a player/team as gospel when in reality they have as much info and "expertise" about this league as any message board random

Cali Syndicate
03-01-2016, 04:05 PM
Klay even said at the championship parade about steph

"You want to hate the guy but he makes it difficult most of the time"

And this is in public to your superstar teammate who everyone loves and they have a weak talking relationship to begin with

I'm telling you

Klay definitely thinks curry is a ballhog but he's too team oriented and humble to make a fuss

See klays body language when steph got ripped by gallo, disgusted at the level of hoggery and selfishness of curry at such a crucial moment that he had to let it out

Talking about selfishness and ball hogging yet you sport a kobe avatar and sn handle? :biggums:

But I get the point... I mean it's easy to see why tony allen was never the scorer kobe was. He never had the chance to chuck and ball hog. And hchjjfjxbbxnjskalanbxhxjksmb institutionalized shdjkfnbskznfbxhxnnssjkxksnxjkxksnjxk
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Confidence to create the perfect storm ejjdhf


Derp

Nick Young
03-01-2016, 04:11 PM
Following the same training regime doesn't mean much. If it did, you could ask the same thing for any other team...why can't Ibaka shoot threes? Can't he just ask Durant to help him out in practice?
Durant helping out Ibaka would certainly help his shooting. Ibaka following Durant's shooting training program would for sure improve his shooting.


Are you denying that Klay practicing Curry's handles training drill every day will improve Klay's handles?

What is stopping Klay from training his handles with Curry and following Curry's handles program?

Riks
03-01-2016, 04:17 PM
I think at heart, Klay is more selfish than Curry but is willing to do what the coach says because he also knows it is best for the team. When Klay is hot, Curry does all he can to get Klay the ball. Yet, as MoBe1Kanobi pointed out, Klay publicly stated "You want to hate the guy but he makes it difficult most of the time." I think this speaks more to his jealousy, but he ultimately knows that Steph is a good guy and helps them win, and that is the part that makes it difficult to hate him.

WorldWarriors
03-01-2016, 04:18 PM
Durant helping out Ibaka would certainly help his shooting. Ibaka following Durant's shooting training program would for sure improve his shooting.


Are you denying that Klay practicing Curry's handles training drill every day will improve Klay's handles?

What is stopping Klay from training his handles with Curry and following Curry's handles program?

Of course it will improve. Dray trained with Steph's trainer over the summer. He's now a triple double machine. It can be done but the desire has to be there. Klay seems to be fine with what he's doing.