I Can't Wait for LeBron to Leave the Cavs or Retire...

[Meticode]

...so we can go back to losing again. I'd rather lose than to go through this drama bullshit. What a waste of talent on the team.

[Straight_Ballin]

Has nothing to do with the Cavs as a team. He went to the cavs because they had the first pick in the entire draft 3 years in a row and they play in the eastern conference.

[Kingwillball]

...so we can go back to losing again. I'd rather lose than to go through this drama bullshit. What a waste of talent on the team.

IF, that is IF they somehow can Gel over next 2 months they can still win a championship. I honestly think if they get to Finals they can knock off Warriors.

[Fire Colangelo]

what happened?

[navy]

What a horrible fan.

Did you forget the drama the Cavs had before Lebron got back? The Dion Waiters and Kyrie fights? You just rather have drama in an empty arena and not make the playoffs in the eastern conference? Okay.

[JohnFreeman]

What a great fan you are.

[Im Still Ballin]

I know who you are LARRY BROWN

MARK COLEMAN

dick tracy

[LARRY BROWN]

what do you except from a guy gave up on the heat last year!:lebroncry:

[Bankaii]

what do you except from a guy gave up on the heat last year!:lebroncry:
He was with the Cavs last year dipshit.

[Meticode]

What a horrible fan.

Did you forget the drama the Cavs had before Lebron got back? The Dion Waiters and Kyrie fights? You just rather have drama in an empty arena and not make the playoffs in the eastern conference? Okay.
I'd rather them have that drama and lose and not have any expectations.

[Proctor]

Another boring, ringless day in Cleveland :sleeping :sleeping

[knicksman]

I agree with op. Lottery or losing in the finals is the same unless youre a lebron stan who settle for consolation prizes

[Cocaine80s]

This is why Bron should come home to OKC

[Monta Ellis MVP]

...so we can go back to losing again. I'd rather lose than to go through this drama bullshit. What a waste of talent on the team.

As some of you may have come to learn I am not only a Die Hard Pacers fan but a fan of the Cavaliers as well and I have to agree. We would of rather rebuild a real team instead of making a bunch of signings to try to tailor make our roster towards LeBron ball. Some of these signings were desperate and forced us to overpay. Being realistic as a Cavaliers fan it's hard to admit it but LeBron is on the rapid decline. So now our team is going to be saddled with these poor contracts that are specifically for LeBron as he is declining. This is assuming he stays. He left once so he may leave again. Fool us once, shame on you LeBron, fool us twice and shame on us. The City has wised up to LeBron's empty promises and will not be fooled again. He is realistically going to leave the Land after this season but we will not worry. We can start rebuilding hopefully around Kyrie, Love, and Thompson and try to mimic the Warriors and Spurs type of offense and make some smart draft picks and do it the right way.

[Papaya Petee]

lol **** it well take him back on the Heat with open arms.

[tmacattack33]

Strange to post this after the past two nights....a blow out loss to the Wizards when Lebron was out, followed by a bounce back win when Lebron returned against the Pacers tonight

[Hey Yo]

I'd rather them have that drama and lose and not have any expectations.
An alleged Cleveland fan would never want one of it's sports teams to lose.

FACT!

[ISHGoat]

As some of you may have come to learn I am not only a Die Hard Pacers fan but a fan of the Cavaliers as well and I have to agree. We would of rather rebuild a real team instead of making a bunch of signings to try to tailor make our roster towards LeBron ball. Some of these signings were desperate and forced us to overpay. Being realistic as a Cavaliers fan it's hard to admit it but LeBron is on the rapid decline. So now our team is going to be saddled with these poor contracts that are specifically for LeBron as he is declining. This is assuming he stays. He left once so he may leave again. Fool us once, shame on you LeBron, fool us twice and shame on us. The City has wised up to LeBron's empty promises and will not be fooled again. He is realistically going to leave the Land after this season but we will not worry. We can start rebuilding hopefully around Kyrie, Love, and Thompson and try to mimic the Warriors and Spurs type of offense and make some smart draft picks and do it the right way.

tldr

cringe

[Mr. Jabbar]

this is why lebron is not in my top 30. despised by his own team fans, in his prime. unacceptable

[Black and White]

This is why Bron should come home to OKC

:coleman:

[Papaya Petee]

this is why lebron is not in my top 30. despised by his own team fans, in his prime. unacceptable
Speak for yourself madafaka.

I loved going to 4 finals in 4 years, winning 2 titles (shoulda been 3 but he choked) and watching the Wade to LeBron connection.

Whats there not to love about going on 27 game winning streaks, beating the Spurs in 7, destroying the Thunder in 5, ending the Boston Big 3, forcing Indiana to rebuild after being bounced in the playoffs 3 straight years?

I don't give a **** what Meticode thinks. You think normal Cavalier fans enjoyed going from NBA Finals appeareance in 2007, and 66-16 and 61-21 records to winning 25 games a season? You think they want to go from NBA Finals his first year back to winning 25-35 games a year?

**** what goes on inside the locker room, on the court LeBron WINS games, and that's all that matters.

[4 Inches]

The Cavs this season has pushed OP's already receding hairline back into Mr Burn's territory.

[G-train]

:facepalm
lol **** it well take him back on the Heat with open arms.

The Heat would, but Lebron wouldn't go back. He likes being GM.

[Smoke117]

I agree with op. Lottery or losing in the finals is the same unless youre a lebron stan who settle for consolation prizes

It's amazing how you get dumber and dumber as time goes on.

[knicksman]

It's amazing how you get dumber and dumber as time goes on.

Theres only one winner my friend. And it is called kobe/curry/knicks fam:rockon:

[ROCSteady]

'The Land' has to be the corniest nickname for a city. So forced and psuedo-urban

Was it invented last year by a LeBron commercial?

[Heatles201]

Speak for yourself madafaka.

I loved going to 4 finals in 4 years, winning 2 titles (shoulda been 3 but he choked) and watching the Wade to LeBron connection.

Whats there not to love about going on 27 game winning streaks, beating the Spurs in 7, destroying the Thunder in 5, ending the Boston Big 3, forcing Indiana to rebuild after being bounced in the playoffs 3 straight years?

I don't give a **** what Meticode thinks. You think normal Cavalier fans enjoyed going from NBA Finals appeareance in 2007, and 66-16 and 61-21 records to winning 25 games a season? You think they want to go from NBA Finals his first year back to winning 25-35 games a year?

**** what goes on inside the locker room, on the court LeBron WINS games, and that's all that matters.

This is why when he left the Heat I had no hard feelings for him. People sure like to talk a lot about him ( good and bad) they say he's not this he's not that, etc. However shit I had such a great time when we won back to back titles seriously one of the best experiences in my life and it was mostly due to LeBron being an absolute monster those playoff runs. No fan likes losing, if you do then maybe sports aren't for you

[Mr. Jabbar]

Speak for yourself madafaka.

I loved going to 4 finals in 4 years, winning 2 titles (shoulda been 3 but he choked) and watching the Wade to LeBron connection.

Whats there not to love about going on 27 game winning streaks, beating the Spurs in 7, destroying the Thunder in 5, ending the Boston Big 3, forcing Indiana to rebuild after being bounced in the playoffs 3 straight years?

I don't give a **** what Meticode thinks. You think normal Cavalier fans enjoyed going from NBA Finals appeareance in 2007, and 66-16 and 61-21 records to winning 25 games a season? You think they want to go from NBA Finals his first year back to winning 25-35 games a year?

**** what goes on inside the locker room, on the court LeBron WINS games, and that's all that matters.

listen, dude. I really like papayas, great desert with cream on top, so i wont respond with insults. BUT u gotta respect meti opinion, hes #1 cav fan in dis bord

[Fudge]

This is why Bron should come home to OKC
:banana:

[zizozain]

listen, dude. I really like papayas, great desert with cream on top, so i wont respond with insults. BUT u gotta respect meti opinion, hes #1 cav fan in dis bord
:no:

RBA :rockon:

[Mr. Jabbar]

:no:

RBA :rockon:

I forgot bout rba

[jrong]

lol **** it well take him back on the Heat with open arms.

No, we won't. If Riley has any pride, he'd hang up the phone if LeBron called, inquiring about a return.

And what would be the point? Given that the presence of LBJ reduces the production of other stars by about 40 percent, what are you getting from Wade then, at this stage, let alone Bosh, if he ever returns? Does CB go back to being purely a safety valve? And where does that leave Dragic? And Joe Johnson, who seems to want to stick around?

No Heat lineup with the addition of LBJ gives them a chance against either the Warriors or Spurs (Durant, on the other hand, would be ideal because he doesn't take other players out of their games, thus not minimizing their productivity). So bringing back LeBron would simply perpetrate the greatest reputational crime against the Heat, one that was narrowly avoided-- the psychological association of the franchise with anyone other than Wade.

I don't know how Heat fans don't feel conflicted about the 2012 and 2013 titles. They were attained by blatant collusion. To the extent that they somewhat burnish Wade's legacy, I'll take them. But, I'd trade them in a heartbeat for the chance to go back to 2010 and spend the money spent on LeBron on a real supporting cast for Wade. Imagine Wade in 2011 with the cumulative talent level of his 2016 cast. The NBA would have gotten curb-stomped.

LeBron has yet to prove he can win a ring without standing on Wade's shoulders. To the Heat, he was a mercenary, nothing more. We used him, true, but not as much as he used us. He's a ringless wonder without Wade and the Heat.

[Cocaine80s]

No, we won't. If Riley has any pride, he'd hang up the phone if LeBron called, inquiring about a return.

And what would be the point? Given that the presence of LBJ reduces the production of other stars by about 40 percent, what are you getting from Wade then, at this stage, let alone Bosh, if he ever returns? Does CB go back to being purely a safety valve? And where does that leave Dragic? And Joe Johnson, who seems to want to stick around?

No Heat lineup with the addition of LBJ gives them a chance against either the Warriors or Spurs (Durant, on the other hand, would be ideal because he doesn't take other players out of their games, thus not minimizing their productivity). So bringing back LeBron would simply perpetrate the greatest reputational crime against the Heat, one that was narrowly avoided-- the psychological association of the franchise with anyone other than Wade.

I don't know how Heat fans don't feel conflicted about the 2012 and 2013 titles. They were attained by blatant collusion. To the extent that they somewhat burnish Wade's legacy, I'll take them. But, I'd trade them in a heartbeat for the chance to go back to 2010 and spend the money spent on LeBron on a real supporting cast for Wade. Imagine Wade in 2011 with the cumulative talent level of his 2016 cast. The NBA would have gotten curb-stopped.

LeBron has yet to prove he can win a ring without standing on Wade's shoulders. To the Heat, he was a mercenary, nothing more. We used him, true, but not as much as he used us. He's a ringless wonder without Wade and the Heat.
Except in 2013 when he won with Wade's weak ass

[Smoke117]

No, we won't. If Riley has any pride, he'd hang up the phone if LeBron called, inquiring about a return.

And what would be the point? Given that the presence of LBJ reduces the production of other stars by about 40 percent, what are you getting from Wade then, at this stage, let alone Bosh, if he ever returns? Does CB go back to being purely a safety valve? And where does that leave Dragic? And Joe Johnson, who seems to want to stick around?

No Heat lineup with the addition of LBJ gives them a chance against either the Warriors or Spurs (Durant, on the other hand, would be ideal because he doesn't take other players out of their games, thus not minimizing their productivity). So bringing back LeBron would simply perpetrate the greatest reputational crime against the Heat, one that was narrowly avoided-- the psychological association of the franchise with anyone other than Wade.

I don't know how Heat fans don't feel conflicted about the 2012 and 2013 titles. They were attained by blatant collusion. To the extent that they somewhat burnish Wade's legacy, I'll take them. But, I'd trade them in a heartbeat for the chance to go back to 2010 and spend the money spent on LeBron on a real supporting cast for Wade. Imagine Wade in 2011 with the cumulative talent level of his 2016 cast. The NBA would have gotten curb-stomped.

LeBron has yet to prove he can win a ring without standing on Wade's shoulders. To the Heat, he was a mercenary, nothing more. We used him, true, but not as much as he used us. He's a ringless wonder without Wade and the Heat.


...this is just ****ing nonsense.

[RoseCity07]

I honestly don't think Lebron will ever win again with this team. They absolutely needed to get rid of Kevin Love. The guy can't play defense. If I were Cleveland I'd bench him and just play Tristan Thompson. Love would be far more usefull in the second unit.

[scandisk_]

Only way bron can spank Curry's ass is to team up with an elite big man.

DAVIS FTW!

[imdaman99]

I thought OP was being sarcastic :lol
I still think he is :coleman:

[JimmyMcAdocious]

OP setting himself up for a thread bump. Basically the equivalent of a reverse jinx.

But I called it out so it's not going to happen. Nice try, tho. Sneaky attempt.

Where is RBA anyway? I haven't seen that guy post since he said people are sleeping on the Cavs post-OKC game.

[RedBlackAttack]

OP setting himself up for a thread bump. Basically the equivalent of a reverse jinx.

But I called it out so it's not going to happen. Nice try, tho. Sneaky attempt.

Where is RBA anyway? I haven't seen that guy post since he said people are sleeping on the Cavs post-OKC game.
I've been around. TBH, I've been scaling back my Internet usage the last couple months all the way around.

Real life comes calling occasionally.

[FPJ]

An alleged Cleveland fan would never want one of it's sports teams to lose.

FACT!

It's Cleveland sports, losing is in their DNA. They can't handle a successful season.

[TomBrady]

Theres only one winner my friend. And it is called kobe/curry/knicks fam:rockon:
:yaohappy:

[BasedTom]

Theres only one winner my friend. And it is called kobe/curry/knicks fam:rockon:
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

what a joker

[BasedTom]

http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r494/Schmoopy72/Gifs%20from%20video/4626555retard.gif
kalloooooshun
:facepalm

[coin24]

Called it ages ago, real cavs fans must be spewing. LeDiva comes back to town, changes the whole team, coach and makes it all about himself..

Lol at anyone in this thread saying the cavs are in a good position to win a title :lol



Bran is already declining like crazy, funny how his only rings will have come from leaving his team to coat tail batman wade.. Pathetic

[aj1987]

No, we won't. If Riley has any pride, he'd hang up the phone if LeBron called, inquiring about a return.
Not really. Pride doesn't get you hundreds of millions in revenue or trips to the Finals. LeBron does. He would sign LeBron in a heartbeat. Almost every GM in the league would.


And what would be the point? Given that the presence of LBJ reduces the production of other stars by about 40 percent, what are you getting from Wade then, at this stage, let alone Bosh, if he ever returns? Does CB go back to being purely a safety valve? And where does that leave Dragic? And Joe Johnson, who seems to want to stick around?
Irving just had the best season of his career with LeBron. Wade, Bosh, and almost every player who has ever played with with LeBron, have some of their most efficient seasons with him.


No Heat lineup with the addition of LBJ gives them a chance against either the Warriors or Spurs (Durant, on the other hand, would be ideal because he doesn't take other players out of their games, thus not minimizing their productivity). So bringing back LeBron would simply perpetrate the greatest reputational crime against the Heat, one that was narrowly avoided-- the psychological association of the franchise with anyone other than Wade.
Dragic/Wade
Wade/JJ/Green
LeBron/Winslow/Green/Deng
Bosh/Deng/McBob
Whiteside/Bosh

That team might not win against the Warriors, but they'd do a LOT better than the current Cavs with LeBron.


I don't know how Heat fans don't feel conflicted about the 2012 and 2013 titles. They were attained by blatant collusion.
Who gives a shit. My team won 2 rings and went to 4 straight Finals. Did the team break any rules of FA?


To the extent that they somewhat burnish Wade's legacy, I'll take them.
Yeah, no.


But, I'd trade them in a heartbeat for the chance to go back to 2010 and spend the money spent on LeBron on a real supporting cast for Wade. Imagine Wade in 2011 with the cumulative talent level of his 2016 cast. The NBA would have gotten curb-stomped.
Good thing you don't run the team. Wade was still brilliant in '12 and during the '13 RS, but the Heat are not replicating the success without LeBron on the team. Not even close.


LeBron has yet to prove he can win a ring without standing on Wade's shoulders. To the Heat, he was a mercenary, nothing more. We used him, true, but not as much as he used us. He's a ringless wonder without Wade and the Heat.
Could say the same for a ton of other players. MJ without Pip = ringless. Kobe without Shaq/Gasol = ringless. ETC..

Just be glad that we had him for the 4 years and that he helped us win two rings.

[lilteapot]

Lol all that losing did wonders for Cleveland. Cavs fans are so used to losing that winning is uncomfortable. Pathetic

[Papaya Petee]

listen, dude. I really like papayas, great desert with cream on top, so i wont respond with insults. BUT u gotta respect meti opinion, hes #1 cav fan in dis bord
Papayas are pretty good :cheers:

[Papaya Petee]

No, we won't. If Riley has any pride, he'd hang up the phone if LeBron called, inquiring about a return.

And what would be the point? Given that the presence of LBJ reduces the production of other stars by about 40 percent, what are you getting from Wade then, at this stage, let alone Bosh, if he ever returns? Does CB go back to being purely a safety valve? And where does that leave Dragic? And Joe Johnson, who seems to want to stick around?

No Heat lineup with the addition of LBJ gives them a chance against either the Warriors or Spurs (Durant, on the other hand, would be ideal because he doesn't take other players out of their games, thus not minimizing their productivity). So bringing back LeBron would simply perpetrate the greatest reputational crime against the Heat, one that was narrowly avoided-- the psychological association of the franchise with anyone other than Wade.

I don't know how Heat fans don't feel conflicted about the 2012 and 2013 titles. They were attained by blatant collusion. To the extent that they somewhat burnish Wade's legacy, I'll take them. But, I'd trade them in a heartbeat for the chance to go back to 2010 and spend the money spent on LeBron on a real supporting cast for Wade. Imagine Wade in 2011 with the cumulative talent level of his 2016 cast. The NBA would have gotten curb-stomped.

LeBron has yet to prove he can win a ring without standing on Wade's shoulders. To the Heat, he was a mercenary, nothing more. We used him, true, but not as much as he used us. He's a ringless wonder without Wade and the Heat.

You know 99% of the time we are on the same page and I agree with you, but this is just nonsense man. Wade was injury prone still averaging 20-26 a game while we were dominating the league.

In your hypothetical at best in those 4 years we go to 2 finals, and win 1.

Wades a 2x Champ and 2x FMVP, but Id rather get what we got. More winning.

[DukeDelonte13]

This team certainly isn't as likable as the first Lebron stint teams, but i'll go winning over playing for ping pong balls any day.

[plowking]

You know 99% of the time we are on the same page and I agree with you, but this is just nonsense man. Wade was injury prone still averaging 20-26 a game while we were dominating the league.

In your hypothetical at best in those 4 years we go to 2 finals, and win 1.

Wades a 2x Champ and 2x FMVP, but Id rather get what we got. More winning.

jrong is one of the most salty people I've come across on here. :oldlol:
He is the pauk of Wade stans. Not anywhere near as bad as pauk, but that type.

Healthy Wade again and Bron together? Yes please. To say no, you'd be an idiot.

[Lebron23]

Jrong has another alternate account in this forum. The guy thinks he's smart, but he dumber than a rock. It doesn't surprise me if this idiot is also Dresta.

[feyki]

Better than tanking .

True question , is/are rock/s dumb ? A lot of people usually use this word . But in the meaning , is this true ?

Otherwise , talking to wall meaning talking to space . But it's neutral . Using "dumb" is negative . How could a inactive thing negative ?

[coin24]

Jrong has another alternate account in this forum. The guy thinks he's smart, but he dumber than a rock. It doesn't surprise me if this idiot is also Dresta.


Weren't you a diehard heat fan not too long ago??

You have no credibility stfu:oldlol:
Easy to see why true cavs fans want leturd flushed

[Lebron23]

Weren't you a diehard heat fan not too long ago??

You have no credibility stfu:oldlol:
Easy to see why true cavs fans want leturd flushed


You aren't even a real Lakers fan. STFU you illegal immigrant from the land down under.

I hope you follow Kobe. And just retire in this forum.

[jlip]

I saw a stat on Sportscenter last night that said that with Love and Irving on the floor together without Lebron, the Cavs are outscored at a rate that would make them the worst team in the league. When Lebron is on the court with them only the Warriors and Spurs are better.

[Lebron23]

I saw a stat on Sportscenter last night that said that with Love and Irving on the floor together without Lebron, the Cavs are outscored at a rate that would make them the worst team in the league. When Lebron is on the court with them only the Warriors and Spurs are better.


It's true that one player can make a huge difference on this team. LeBron is like the heart and soul of this Cavaliers team.

He's their engine. I hope he stays healthy for the rest of the season. He won't be getting the Duncan Preservation Treatment this season.

[aj1987]

Weren't you a diehard heat fan not too long ago??

You have no credibility stfu:oldlol:
Easy to see why true cavs fans want leturd flushed
I think I'm a pretty loyal Heat fan and I would take LeBron on the Heat in a heartbeat. Don't act like you wouldn't take him on the Lakers either.



You aren't even a real Lakers fan. STFU you illegal immigrant from the land down under.

I hope you follow Kobe. And just retire in this forum.
I'm pretty sure that coin24 is a Heat fan/Kobe stan.

[ArbitraryWater]

Jrong getting his shit pushed back in by all real Heat fans :oldlol:

[aj1987]

Jrong getting his shit pushed back in by all real Heat fans :oldlol:
Why you ducking my posts, dude. Stop running away like a little bitch.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=395424

[ArbitraryWater]

Why you ducking my posts, dude. Stop running away like a little bitch.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=395424

What am I looking at?

A discussion we ended 1.5 months ago, and you didn't feel satisfied in the result, so you saved the thread on your computer to later show me?

That's awkward and sad af

[aj1987]

What am I looking at?

A discussion we ended 1.5 months ago, and you didn't feel satisfied in the result, so you saved the thread on your computer to later show me?

That's awkward and sad af
You really shouldn't call anyone else sad. 22k+ posts on this one account of yours alone. Now that's sad.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12038478&postcount=34
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12159017&postcount=51


in fact, LeBron James is not just having a decent shooting season from mid-range, he's also continuing the trend of being a much better mid-ranger shooter than Dwyane Wade, who actually is one of the more terrible shooters in the NBA (he needs to get himself a good shooting coach).
That post definitely belongs in the dumbest things ever said thread.

[coin24]

I think I'm a pretty loyal Heat fan and I would take LeBron on the Heat in a heartbeat. Don't act like you wouldn't take him on the Lakers either.



I'm pretty sure that coin24 is a Heat fan/Kobe stan.


No i would never want LeChoke on the lakers thank you..:cheers:

Yeah who should I go for when Kobe retires?:lol

[FultzNationRISE]

OP got his wish :roll:

[Lebron23]

No i would never want LeChoke on the lakers thank you..:cheers:

Yeah who should I go for when Kobe retires?:lol

LeBron ended the Lakers championship drought

[RRR3]

Human beings truly do not deserve LeGod.