Tiny had a better offensive season than Curry

[Marchesk]

Unless you can show that Curry's offensive impact is greater. And maybe it is, but the team has to be taken in context. What would Curry's offensive impact be on a team similar to Archibald's? Better, same, a bit worse?

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[warriorfan]

Tell me when Tiny Archibald stretches the floor like Curry and has teams playing 3 on 4 from 30 feet out in attempt to stop him.

[Marchesk]

Tell me when Tiny Archibald stretches the floor like Curry and has teams playing 3 on 4 from 30 feet out in attempt to stop him.

That's really impressive, but what was Archibald doing to defenses with the kind of numbers he put up in his peak season? Obviously, they couldn't stop him either.

[G0ATbe]

6'1 150 pounds:lol :lol :lol . This guy was anorexic and averaged 34ppg. That alone tells me all I need to know about that era:lol

[Marchesk]

6'1 150 pounds:lol :lol :lol . This guy was anorexic and averaged 34ppg. That alone tells me all I need to know about that era:lol

http://sports.espn.go.com/photo/2006/0508/nba_a_nash_195.jpg

[3ball]

Tell me when Tiny Archibald stretches the floor like Curry and has teams playing 3 on 4 from 30 feet out in attempt to stop him.


That's the thing - teams currently AREN'T DOING THAT

however, once they accept reality and make ACTUAL adjustments like the Bad Boys vs. Jordan, 1998 and 1997 Jazz vs.Shaq, like the 2004 Pistons vs. Kobe, or the 2007 Spurs vs. Lebron (22 ppg on 35%), or the 2008 Celtics (35%) 2011 Mavs..

THEN and only then will we see how easily Curry's reliance on 3-pointers can be expoited.. Until then.. we wait..

[Kawhi]

That's really impressive, but what was Archibald doing to defenses with the kind of numbers he put up in his peak season? Obviously, they couldn't stop him either.
Those stats are terrible due to higher pace. It goes the same for Wilt's 50 ppg, it goes the same voor Oscar's triple-double season. A pace of 110 was considered below average back then. Know what the highest pace is as of today? 100.2.

[Kawhi]

Not to mention they were empty stats as well, as the Kansas City Kings finished well below .500 (36-46). They also had a pace of 107.3, but were dead last in defensive rating (102.4). Archibald himself played 46 minutes per game.

[feyki]

I don't understand these obssesive loves on Nate,Earl and Debaşşırr ..

Why people always overrating these guys ?

Curry is far better offensively . Nate wasn't even better than 01 Ivy . This year Curry fire with shotgun to Jordan,Magic level legends offensively right now . Even 05 Nash was clearly better than 73 Archibald .

[Kawhi]

2015/16 Curry: 31/5/6 (52% FG, 47% 3P, 91% FT, 69% TS) in 34 minutes per game
1972/73 Tiny: 34/11/3 (49% FG, 0% 3P, 85% FT, 56% TS) in 46 minutes per game

Per 36:
2015/16 Curry: 33/7/6
1972/73 Tiny: 27/9/2

[CuterThanRubio]

http://sports.espn.go.com/photo/2006/0508/nba_a_nash_195.jpg

Nash would have averaged 40 and 15 that season.

Truly skilled players like Curry and Steve don't put up empty stats, either, Archibald FAILED to make the playoffs that year.

36-46 Record

Amazing! Let's compare that loser to a guy who is leading his team to a historical number of wins and potentially the best regular season of all time, where do you guys come up with this BS

[feyki]

2015/16 Curry: 31/5/6 (52% FG, 47% 3P, 91% FT, 69% TS) in 34 minutes per game
1972/73 Tiny: 34/11/3 (49% FG, 0% 3P, 85% FT, 56% TS) in 46 minutes per game

Per 36:
2015/16 Curry: 33/7/6
1972/73 Tiny: 27/9/2

Their 100 poss numbers probably like that (when poss rating adjusted ) ;

Nate - 37 pts , 4 reb , 12 ast , %60 TS with worse defence than lgAvg(around -2 or -3 plus minus )

Curry - 41 pts , 8 reb , 9 ast , %65 TS with better defence than average ( around +0.5 or +1 plus minus )

[Marchesk]

Truly skilled players like Curry and Steve don't put up empty stats, either, Archibald FAILED to make the playoffs that year.

36-46 Record

Jordan, Kareem, Wilt and Kobe all had a great a great offensive season in which their teams had losing records.


Amazing! Let's compare that loser to a guy who is leading his team to a historical number of wins and potentially the best regular season of all time, where do you guys come up with this BS

Curry has a great team around him. I said in the OP to put Curry on a team like Tiny's. We put Curry on a lottery team, and are they looking to win 70+ games?

[Marchesk]

Even 05 Nash was clearly better than 73 Archibald .

That or he had a better team.

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[Marchesk]

Those stats are terrible due to higher pace. It goes the same for Wilt's 50 ppg, it goes the same voor Oscar's triple-double season. A pace of 110 was considered below average back then. Know what the highest pace is as of today? 100.2.

Which is why nobody else back then put up those numbers?

[T_L_P]

That or he had a better team.

So Hakeem > Jordan, Tiny > Magic.

You know, since it's just about who had more help?

[Marchesk]

So Hakeem > Jordan, Tiny > Magic.

You know, since it's just about who had more help?

It's not just about that. I'm just pointing out that Curry is having a great impact on a great team, like 87 Magic did, but it helps that Magic had guys like Worthy on that team.

Kareem won an MVP on a 40 win team. He also won 6 championships. I'm guessing he had better teammates those years.

[Marchesk]

Kareem 75/76:

27.7/16.9/5 with 1.5 steals and 4.1 blocks on 52.9%

That's domination. He wins an MVP. The team won 40 games and missed the playoffs.

[CuterThanRubio]

Jordan, Kareem, Wilt and Kobe all had a great a great offensive season in which their teams had losing records.



Curry has a great team around him. I said in the OP to put Curry on a team like Tiny's. We put Curry on a lottery team, and are they looking to win 70+ games?

Those other guys were able to sustain those levels of greatness, Archibald had two dominant scoring years and they didn't amount to much.

He needed a cast of all timers to finally accomplish something, and by then he wasn't the focal point of the offense, pretty clear to me that his style of play was conducive to losing games and empty stats.

Nash and Curry efficiently orchestrate the offense for their teams, and it usually leads to winning a lot of games and deep playoff runs, so what if they need good players to make the system function at a high level, they are still mainly responsible for the outcome.

You can look at the record of their teams without them and I guarantee you it a lot worse than when they are playing, so much for them being surrounded by SO much talent lol

[Marchesk]

Those other guys were able to sustain those levels of greatness, Archibald had two dominant scoring years and they didn't amount to much.

He needed a cast of all timers to finally accomplish something, and by then he wasn't the focal point of the offense, pretty clear to me that his style of play was conducive to losing games and empty stats.

My understanding is that Archibald got hurt and was never the same. Yeah, Nash was brilliant in his 2 MVP seasons. He also was in a system with teammates that maximized his brilliance.

[Marchesk]

You can look at the record of their teams without them and I guarantee you it a lot worse than when they are playing, so much for them being surrounded by SO much talent lol

So how many wins do you think Curry is worth to the Warriors? You think they're out of the playoffs without him?

[D-Wait]

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