D'Angelo proving he's not a bust

[ImKobe]

since he got back in the starting line-up (last 9 games)

20.7/3.1/4.8/1.2 2.0 TOV 32.8 mpg 48% FG 48% 3PT

worth the 2nd pick if you ask me

[fiddy]

way too early to tell

[AirTupac]

D'Angelo will be a star boys. Been saying it forever.

[ShawkFactory]

He's been damn good. I don't expect him to shoot much over 40% from 3, but other than that he's good.

I can easily see a 25/7 guy in the not-so-distant future

[RRR3]

Glad I have kept in him all year in fantasy :rockon:

He's rewarding my faith

[Derka]

Kinda hysterical to see this place light up like two games into the season calling him a bust :lol

Absolutely no one is talking about Jahlil Okafor anymore.

[AirTupac]

Kinda hysterical to see this place light up like two games into the season calling him a bust :lol

Absolutely no one is talking about Jahlil Okafor anymore.

Easy when so many people hate the Lakers :oldlol:

[Derka]

Easy when so many people hate the Lakers :oldlol:
A lot of Kobestans were among the loudest, dude.

[Legends66NBA7]

A lot of Kobestans were among the loudest, dude.

Seriously, this. Okafor started out better and then got hurt. Now Russell is showing out with less than 2 months left to play.

People just overreact to 19 year olds not knowing the ropes yet thinking they are busts because they aren't Towns or putting up rookie James numbers.

[Legends66NBA7]

By the way, does Byron Scott get any credit for developing his players or is he just a bottom 3 coach who has been "holding his young talent back" ?

[Nick Young]

By the way, does Byron Scott get any credit for developing his players or is he just a bottom 3 coach who has been "holding his young talent back" ?
Byron Scott DID hold Russell back, by yanking him at every mistake early in the year, and running the offense through mamba rather than handing Russell the keys.


Russell has finally been given the keys to the offense and guess what it turns out he's a stud point guard.

If Scott was playing Russell more minutes earlier in the season and giving him more focus, we'd be a 4/5 seed right now.

[r15mohd]

Byron Scott DID hold Russell back, by yanking him at every mistake early in the year, and running the offense through mamba rather than handing Russell the keys.


Russell has finally been given the keys to the offense and guess what it turns out he's a stud point guard.

If Scott was playing Russell more minutes earlier in the season and giving him more focus, we'd be a 4/5 seed right now.

:biggums:

[MMM]

:biggums:

Maybe he meant 4/5 th pick

[HOoopCityJones]

:biggums:

I tripped out for a sec too. :roll:

[Bandito]

Byron Scott DID hold Russell back, by yanking him at every mistake early in the year, and running the offense through mamba rather than handing Russell the keys.


Russell has finally been given the keys to the offense and guess what it turns out he's a stud point guard.

If Scott was playing Russell more minutes earlier in the season and giving him more focus, we'd be a 4/5 seed right now.
The hell is this ***** smoking?:lol

[AirTupac]

Lets be real. Bryon deserves credit. He pulled those guys on the bench because they thought they were better than they were. He has done good work. Cant just bad mouth the guy at everything and give him no credit when something works out. Add another PG to his resume

[Harison]

He will be an All-star.

[Kvnzhangyay]

Lets be real. Bryon deserves credit. He pulled those guys on the bench because they thought they were better than they were. He has done good work. Cant just bad mouth the guy at everything and give him no credit when something works out. Add another PG to his resume

But at same time, that's like saying Paul Silas and Mike Brown deserves credit for Lebron being a superstar, and the list goes on...

[AirTupac]

But at same time, that's like saying Paul Silas and Mike Brown deserves credit for Lebron being a superstar, and the list goes on...

Its not though. At what point does Scott get any credit for developing rookies if all these rookies that play under him develop fairly well. All I'm saying is as bad as Byron Scott is as a coach and subbing and calling plays and making rotations, I think he does a decent job in developing rookies somehow.

[AirBonner]

D’ Bustelo Bustell

[ImKobe]

D’ Bustelo Bustell

Made the All-Star team & led the Nets to the Playoffs. Averaged 18/6 this season. I wouldn't call that a bust. Lakers could have done better by picking KP but no one had him that high at the time, Knicks got ridiculed for that pick when it happened. D'lo is one of the 4 players in that draft who became an All-Star. Lakers could have done much worse with that pick.

[RRR3]

Made the All-Star team & led the Nets to the Playoffs. Averaged 18/6 this season. I wouldn't call that a bust. Lakers could have done better by picking KP but no one had him that high at the time, Knicks got ridiculed for that pick when it happened. D'lo is one of the 4 players in that draft who became an All-Star. Lakers could have done much worse with that pick.
He didn't deserve to be an all-star he is not that level of player he's maybe the 20th best PG in the league (although I guess you could argue this is because the position is so deep). I wouldn't call him a bust per se but he was expected to be better than he is. He's a nice player but not a game changer.

[ImKobe]

He didn't deserve to be an all-star he is not that level of player he's maybe the 20th best PG in the league (although I guess you could argue this is because the position is so deep). I wouldn't call him a bust per se but he was expected to be better than he is. He's a nice player but not a game changer.

He deserved it as the best player on a Playoff team. He was on fire for over a month heading into the ASB as well. Had a slow start to the year but averaged 24/4/8 in the 2nd half of that season .

[RRR3]

He deserved it as the best player on a Playoff team. He was on fire for over a month heading into the ASB as well. Had a slow start to the year but averaged 24/4/8 in the 2nd half of that season .
Absolutely did not deserve it over Jimmy Butler don't be ridiculous.

[ImKobe]

Absolutely did not deserve it over Jimmy Butler don't be ridiculous.

I didn't know they were both frontcourt players. My bad.

[imdaman99]

He's a bad defender. Even when he was on the Nets, I'm pretty sure I remember him getting benched often in the playoffs.

[RRR3]

I didn't know they were both frontcourt players. My bad.
Jimmy plays guard a lot stop playing dumb.

[coin24]

He stinks.. always did. Lakers are morons for bringing him back..

Please get rid of him for Kyrie in the off season. At least Kyrie can score

[Lakers Legend#32]

We gotta resign him.

[ImKobe]

Jimmy plays guard a lot stop playing dumb.

Played SG on the Wolves but was a SF in Philly and got votes in the frontcourt.. you could have looked it up before making that claim for the 2019 ASG.

[Xiao Yao You]

He stinks.. always did. Lakers are morons for bringing him back..

Please get rid of him for Kyrie in the off season. At least Kyrie can score

got to be better options than either :lol

[Kblaze8855]

He made the All-Star game as an injury replacement for Oladipo. In the player vote he was tied with Dinwiddle and had exactly one more vote than JJ Redick and Brogdan and they were all tied in media voting. I suppose silver picked him because he had more fan votes. More well known name at the time.

[Kblaze8855]

That said I don’t know if he’s a bust. He’s a bust in that you expect a great player for a second pick but he’s still a good player.

would you call Tyson chandler a bust? Number two pick and expected to be a superstar along the lines of a Kevin Garnett. He made an All-Star team won a defensive player of the year and might’ve been the second most important player on a champion. But is Tyson Chandler what you’re looking for when you draft that high?


Same situation.

[ImKobe]

I don't think you could call him a bust in any universe when looking at the 2015 Draft. D'lo and Towns were the two best prospects going in and we knew there was a gap between the two. Lakers could have went with Jahlil Okafor and really gone bust at the time. Booker ended up being the best player as a 13th pick and no one that I know had him as a potential star/superstar at the time.

[Xiao Yao You]

That said I don’t know if he’s a bust. He’s a bust in that you expect a great player for a second pick but he’s still a good player.

would you call Tyson chandler a bust? Number two pick and expected to be a superstar along the lines of a Kevin Garnett. He made an All-Star team won a defensive player of the year and might’ve been the second most important player on a champion. But is Tyson Chandler what you’re looking for when you draft that high?


Same situation.

don't think he was that highly thought of. There wasn't a consensus #1 in that draft. There were several guys considered

[Kblaze8855]

Anthony Bennett wasn’t thought highly of far as I know but he’s still a bust. Obviously a much much bigger one than Russell could be argued…I’m just saying not being highly regarded as a future superstar by everyone doesn’t mean being a top pick isn’t supposed to be one. If only to the people who take him…the top 3ish picks are taken there because they’re supposed to be significant.

Still being good players doesn’t necessarily mean guys like Deangelo, Oladipo, or Chandler can’t have the bust label. 3 all stars. 3 second picks. All good players at their best…I just don’t know if their careers are what even they would have envisioned when they dreamed of stardom.

Is it an option to be a small bust?

Like Marcus Camby. Second pick. DPOY. He was a somebody.

But not what he was hyped to be.

Marcus Camby a small bust?

[DMAVS41]

Anthony Bennett wasn’t thought highly of far as I know but he’s still a bust. Obviously a much much bigger one than Russell could be argued…I’m just saying not being highly regarded as a future superstar by everyone doesn’t mean being a top pick isn’t supposed to be one. If only to the people who take him…the top 3ish picks are taken there because they’re supposed to be significant.

Still being good players doesn’t necessarily mean guys like Deangelo, Oladipo, or Chandler can’t have the bust label. 3 all stars. 3 second picks. All good players at their best…I just don’t know if their careers are what even they would have envisioned when they dreamed of stardom.

Is it an option to be a small bust?

Like Marcus Camby. Second pick. DPOY. He was a somebody.

But not what he was hyped to be.

Marcus Camby a small bust?

I think only if you are going off of hope or unrealistic expectations. The Ringer did a piece a few years ago and Otto Porter was essentially the average player or expected value of the 3rd pick and I think Marvin Williams might have been the example of the 2nd pick.

Expecting the 2nd or 3rd pick to be superstars, rather than hoping, sets expectations too high imo.

[Kblaze8855]

There obviously isn’t even room for every first and second pick to be superstars, considering a few lower picks sneak in, unless we have a couple dozen at a time. But I think people make those picks with high hopes. You can never be sure of course but that’s probably the plan.

[DMAVS41]

There obviously isn’t even room for every first and second pick to be superstars, considering a few lower picks sneak in, unless we have a couple dozen at a time. But I think people make those picks with high hopes. You can never be sure of course but that’s probably the plan.

Absolutely.

It’s just that expected value in reality (solid starter) is much lower than those high hopes / expectations (star / superstar).

[HoopologyPhD]

Bust should really only apply to (non-injured) players who are below replacement level.
Anyone with ~10+ppg on decent efficiency that pretends to play defense isn't really a bust.

[ImKobe]

Bust should really only apply to (non-injured) players who are below replacement level.
Anyone with ~10+ppg on decent efficiency that pretends to play defense isn't really a bust.

Exactly. D'lo is still a good player 8 years into his career. Idk how that could be considered a bust when he's still a starter on a Playoff team. You hope to at least get someone who contributes to playing winning basketball with one of the top picks, and barely any of the picks after him in the lottery are still relevant players to this day. He's one of the 4 guys who didn't end up being just a role player for their entire career.

[Kblaze8855]

. Idk how that could be considered a bust when he's still a starter on a Playoff team.


What kinda standard is that?

There are starters on playoff teams who aren’t even average. Weird cutoff for determining if a super high lottery pick lived up to it.

If “He’s a good player” means a top pick isn’t a bust….there aren’t many. Most of the people we call a bust were competent. They could start on good teams. Unless we reserve the label for only the absolute worst disappointments ever like Bennett or Hasheem Thabeet…and that’s never been how it done.

If there are only 5-6 ever we might as well retire the term for normal use.

[Full Court]

Well, he's carried the Lakers to the playoffs, so there's that. Before he came to the team, the Lakers were in the lottery all season.

[coin24]

Well, he's carried the Lakers to the playoffs, so there's that. Before he came to the team, the Lakers were in the lottery all season.

Biggest game of the season and he goes mia. What was he? 1 for 9?:lol

Then again the lakers need a pg to handle the ball, not letiny and his shit across the key passes:facepalm

[RRR3]

Biggest game of the season and he goes mia. What was he? 1 for 9?:lol

Then again the lakers need a pg to handle the ball, not letiny and his shit across the key passes:facepalm
Poor little simon shew, still mentally destroyed by LeBron doubling his idol's FMVP count :(

[coin24]

Poor little simon shew, still mentally destroyed by LeBron doubling his idol's FMVP count :(

Shouldn’t you be at the book store white knighting some they thems just begging for any attention??

[RRR3]

Shouldn’t you be at the book store white knighting some they thems just begging for any attention??
NaziShew.exe updated with some new insults? First time in years you've been able to come up with any.

[coin24]

NaziShew.exe updated with some new insults? First time in years you've been able to come up with any.

You’re not worth anyone’s time.. its actually sad you still live on a dead forum all day talking to yourself