Better regular-season: Lebron in 2010 vs Curry in 2016

[mehyaM24]

with 2014 durant on the outside looking in, from a perimeter standpoint, arguably the two greatest individual [regular] seasons thus far.. backed by empirical IMPACT data

curry is the greater scorer while lebron had him in passing, rebounding and defending. their impact numbers are VERY close despite lebron doing more in major statistical categories.

who was better and why? :confusedshrug:

[Kvnzhangyay]

I'd say Lebron in 2010

Curry has the edge offensively (GOAT offensive season imho), but Lebron does defensively

Not to mention, Lebron was more important to the Cavs

[Bandito]

I would say Curry. Both statlines are great but Curry's cuter ;)

[Bankaii]

I'd take Lebron.

The gap offensively is extremely small, but the gap defensively is quite noticeable. Lebron was also quite easily the better all around player, almost leading or tying all major stat categories for his team.

On top of that Lebron's impact on the Cavs was much more important and prevalent than current Curry's.

2 best peaks since 2000 Shaq. Maybe 2003 Duncan isn't much behind.

[Marchesk]

Oscar in 64

[hold this L]

Curry's current season is the best since prime Shaq.

[Zach LaVine]

Curry. Best regular season since 2000.

[InsanityKills]

Non-biased

LeBron James

[Fire Colangelo]

Props to OP for bringing up Lebron's 2010 season. People usually bring up 2009 Lebron without realizing Lebron had an even better regular season in 2010. (Emphasizing regular season here)

Back to the topic, I'm gonna have to go with Curry.

[knicksman]

If this is dota, scorers are carries while others(passers,defenders) are supports. Carries>>>supports just like scorers>>>passers/defenders so brans support skills only matters if they are equivalent scorers. The same logic applies to bran vs kobe. Kobe is the better scorer as he doesnt disappear when it matters so hes the better player Same for dirk.


Id rather build around them coz Your only hope of winning with bran is collusion

[Showtime2001]

Curry and its not even close.

[FKAri]

Lebron was the better player. I dunno what better regular season means.

[plowking]

Close. Both are part of the top 5 regular seasons from a perimeter player ever.

[ballinhun8]

Curry's is the best since Shaq in 2000.



So there's your answer.

[Ranked 12th]

LeBron at 19 was >>> Current Curry


19 year old Bron : 27/7/7

Current Curry 30/6/5

[ShawkFactory]

If this is dota, scorers are carries while others(passers,defenders) are supports. Carries>>>supports just like scorers>>>passers/defenders so brans support skills only matters if they are equivalent scorers. The same logic applies to bran vs kobe. Kobe is the better scorer as he doesnt disappear when it matters so hes the better player Same for dirk.


Id rather build around them coz Your only hope of winning with bran is collusion
Dude lebron scored 30 a game

[knicksman]

Dude lebron scored 30 a game

Theres a reason why youre a bran stan dude coz you dont know the difference between a 30ppg jumpshooter and a 30ppg layuper aka eyetest

[Smoke117]

Lebron.

[Ranked 12th]

Theres a reason why youre a bran stan dude coz you dont know the difference between a 30ppg jumpshooter and a 30ppg layuper aka eyetest

meltdown :roll:

[knicksman]

meltdown :roll:
:coleman:

[Ranked 12th]

:coleman:

And thats the problem. Curry doesnt have a winner mentality. The winners dont care about stats and wants to play off the ball instead because they knew scoring is tough when you have to do other things. Thats what separates Curry from winners (Iggy). Winners provide the most important/hardest skill to the table which is tough shot creation, while Curry provides redundant skills that can be supplied easily by other players aka passing, defense, rebounding. So the winners only need role players to win while Curry needs superstars but still only manage 0/11. This teammate excuse is laughable at best. Magic won with old ass kareem scoring only 15ppg.

[knicksman]

And thats the problem. Curry doesnt have a winner mentality. The winners dont care about stats and wants to play off the ball instead because they knew scoring is tough when you have to do other things. Thats what separates Curry from winners (Iggy). Winners provide the most important/hardest skill to the table which is tough shot creation, while Curry provides redundant skills that can be supplied easily by other players aka passing, defense, rebounding. So the winners only need role players to win while Curry needs superstars but still only manage 0/11. This teammate excuse is laughable at best. Magic won with old ass kareem scoring only 15ppg.

:coleman:

[sd3035]

Obviously Curry, it's a historical season

[Lebronxrings]

i like how currys been playing but lebron

[chazzy]

I actually liked 09 reg season Lebron better than 10. Played better defense imo

[Zach LaVine]

LeBron at 19 was >>> Current Curry


19 year old Bron : 27/7/7

Current Curry 30/6/5
You are using that gimmick account all wrong. PM me your password and I'll help you out.

[ShawkFactory]

Theres a reason why youre a bran stan dude coz you dont know the difference between a 30ppg jumpshooter and a 30ppg layuper aka eyetest
I understand that you probably weren't old enough to comprehend things in 2010 (hell, you barely can now), but at least TRY :facepalm

[knicksman]

I understand that you probably weren't old enough to comprehend things in 2010 (hell, you barely can now), but at least TRY :facepalm

Bro, if i were dumb, i wouldve been a bran stan too. Coz stat wise, hes better than mj. But i analyze skills.

[ShawkFactory]

Bro, if i were dumb, i wouldve been a bran stan too. Coz stat wise, hes better than mj. But i analyze skills.
:roll:

I'm surprised you even know how to SPELL analyze

[knicksman]

:roll:

I'm surprised you even know how to SPELL analyze

So i win? Good so we can move on.

[ShawkFactory]

So i win? Good so we can move on.
What do you win?

The award for dumbest person on this forum?

[warriorfan]

Close but it's Curry.

Curry runs a better offense than LeBron. LeBron is better at defense but it doesn't make up for the gap in offense. Curry is much more efficient and better at closing out games.

Curry's teammate's actually like him as well. He isn't doing cryptic passive aggressive tweets and other strange things that create cancerous environments that LeBron is known all too well for.

[pauk]

I dont see how this is arguable unless you are speaking of strictly scoring... Lebron did much more of everything else also.

[plowking]

I dont see how this is arguable unless you are speaking of strictly scoring... Lebron did much more of everything else also.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Im Still Ballin]

I'd go with Lebron based on his all round prowess

Curry is by no means a bad defender, but he'll never be a DPOY tier defender which Lebron has been (Runner up in 2009 and 2013)

[ArbitraryWater]

2010 LeBron is the perfection of a basketball player.

This is an insult ;)

[Im Still Ballin]

I mean I sometimes forget

30 points
7 rebounds
9 assists
1.6 steals
1 block
60 TS%

The offense is closer than most think, Lebron wasn't near the shooter, but he got to the line 10 times a night, and gave out 9 assists a night

[Dr Hawk]

LeBron at 19 was >>> Current Curry


19 year old Bron : 27/7/7

Current Curry 30/6/5

27+7+7=41

30+6+5=41

It's a tie

[ballinhun8]

I dont see how this is arguable unless you are speaking of strictly scoring... Lebron did much more of everything else also.



Many many people are talking of Curry having an arguable GOAT season. Those don't get thrown around often. And you're sitting here asking how it's arguable??

[Ranked 12th]

27+7+7=41

30+6+5=41

It's a tie


So a teenage lebron was on par with peak Curry?


I'll take it

[guy]

Lebron was great, but Klay and Draymond wouldn't come close to flourishing the way they have been playing if they were playing with that Lebron so to me it's easily Curry.

[Kvnzhangyay]

Lebron was great, but Klay and Draymond wouldn't come close to flourishing the way they have been playing if they were playing with that Lebron so to me it's easily Curry.

Draymond wouldn't (cause Draymond is essentially a Lebron that can't create on his own...) but Klay would still flourish

[ArbitraryWater]

Lebron was great, but Klay and Draymond wouldn't come close to flourishing the way they have been playing if they were playing with that Lebron so to me it's easily Curry.

I get Draymond wouldnt playmake as much, since LeBron was a vastly superior passer/playmaker to both him and Curry... Klay is literally the textbook teammate for LeBron, what are you talking about :facepalm

Green's defense and 3's would obviously be a part of Draymonds game, still.

[guy]

I get Draymond wouldnt playmake as much, since LeBron was a vastly superior passer/playmaker to both him and Curry... Klay is literally the textbook teammate for LeBron, what are you talking about :facepalm

Green's defense and 3's would obviously be a part of Draymonds game, still.

Well I'm not saying they would suck. First off, they wouldn't move the ball as much and play as fast. That's a big reason Klay is able to flourish like he has.

I really doubt Draymond playmakes that much at all. And that's what separates him from being a good role player to an unarguable All-Star.

[Papaya Petee]

Theres a reason why youre a bran stan dude coz you dont know the difference between a 30ppg jumpshooter and a 30ppg layuper aka eyetest
30 points per game is 30 point per game is regardless how you look at it ******. Especially when both are super efficient.

Not to mention Lebron attacking the basket put bigs in foul trouble every game, while Curry does not.

Also, LeBron averaged more rebounds, more assists, played much better defense.

This isn't really that close.

[DatAsh]

This is really close for me. 2016 Curry is the best scorer and offensive player I've ever seen, but Lebron was a great defender in 2010. Both of these seasons are up there neck and neck with the very best from Jordan/Shaq/Wilt as some of the best ever. As of now, I'd probably go with Steph, mainly for portability and scalability reasons.

40.0 pts, 9.8 trb, 11.5 ast, 2.2 stl, 60 TS%, 31.1 per, .299 ws/48
43.0 pts, 7.6 trb, 9.3 ast, 3.0 stl, 68 TS%, 32.2 per, .328 ws/48

That's your basic box score comparison. Do we have any comparable orthogonal to box score metrics available for these two? If so, I'd love to see them.

It's still hard for me to believe that Curry is so close to cementing a season this good. No way I could have predicted this coming into the season; even in December I was still utterly convinced he would drop off at some point, but he never has.

[DatAsh]

30 points per game is 30 point per game is regardless how you look at it ******.

People say this a lot, but I don't think it's true. I may be misunderstanding your point though; my apologies if that's the case.

It's absolutely possible for a 50ppg on 70% TS player to be a worse scorer than a 5ppg on 30% TS player. It's highly unlikely, but absolutely possible. The better scorer is the one who's scoring helps his team's offense and - to a lesser extent - defense more.