Kobe at 34 vs Bran at age 30-31...

[stalkerforlife]

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[Inferno]

How about rebounds and assists, and everything else? :applause: to Kobe though

[stalkerforlife]

Kobe had the greatest season in NBA history for any 34 year old player.

[Ranked 12th]

But Kobe was the worst 35 and 36 year old in NBA History

So it balances out

[Im Still Ballin]

Did he make the playoffs though?

[coin24]

List the stat that matters

Kobe 8 bran 4


Inches chart

[buddha]

Did he make the playoffs though?

his team did but he did not. if you don't remember he blew his achilles at the end of the season and the Dwight Howard led Lakers were swept by the Spurs.

[imnew09]

Prime Bron is avging below 30% from 3s lol


Imagine when he logs more minutes?! Fk prolly below 20

[SpaceJam]

How about rebounds and assists, and everything else? :applause: to Kobe though

Rebounds- 7.4 5.6
Assists- 6.6 6.0
Steals- 1.5 1.4
Blocks- 0.6 0.3

LeBron Kobe

[AirBonner]

Kobe was a beast for sure. Wasn't that around the time he went to Germany for "treatments"?

[Im Still Ballin]

his team did but he did not. if you don't remember he blew his achilles at the end of the season and the Dwight Howard led Lakers were swept by the Spurs.
So he didn't make the playoffs.

Okay

[raprap]

Lebron is on cruise control tho. Buuuut his shot is shit no doubt

[Bankaii]

You forgot to add that it took Kobe more FGA on worse percentages than Lebron for a slightly higher PPG.

You also left off Lebron having more assists, rebounds, blocks, steal, and less turnovers while playing better defense.
And he's a 1st seed while it took Kobe some extreme ref help just to make the playoffs with Dwight, Nash, Pau, Artest...

Lebron in arguably his worst shooting season still has a higher FG%, eFG%, and TS% than Kobe:roll:

[stalkerforlife]

You forgot to add that it took Kobe more FGA on worse percentages than Lebron for a slightly higher PPG.

You also left off Lebron having more assists, rebounds, blocks, steal, and less turnovers while playing better defense.
And he's a 1st seed while it took Kobe some extreme ref help just to make the playoffs with Dwight, Nash, Pau, Artest...

Lebron in arguably his worst shooting season still has a higher FG%, eFG%, and TS% than Kobe:roll:

Simon's angry again. :lol

[Mr. Jabbar]

im gonna have to go w kobe on this one

[HOoopCityJones]

im gonna have to go w kobe on this one

:applause:

[IllegalD]

34 y.o. Kobe >>>> 31 y.o. LeBron

Simon the resident f*ggot melting down as usual.

What a time to be alive! :banana:

[ImKobe]

36 yr old Kobe put up 44 pts on 34 shots on the same Warriors team Lebron averaged 36 ppg in 32 shots against in the Finals...

we all know Kobe is the better player

[Im Still Ballin]

There seems to be a disconnect between Kobe's stats and his success

Almost an... emptiness

Dare I say it?

It's hard to understand how someone with statistics as good as this could only be ranked 12th? There must be more to it. It's not an in house thing I know... ESPN is the number one sports media outlet in the world. So what exactly is it then?

[fiddy]

But Kobe was the worst 35 and 36 year old in NBA History

So it balances out
No.

[Dragonyeuw]

Kobe had the greatest season in NBA history for any 34 year old player.

So Kobe at 34 was better than this:

29.6 points, .486, 5.9 rebounds, 4.3 assists,1.7 steals, ring, FMVP

[AintNoSunshine]

What year was it when Kobes 34?

[Dragonyeuw]

What year was it when Kobes 34?

2013, right when he got injured.

[coin24]

2013, right when he got injured.


He was beasting just before that injury.. Way too many minutes though:(

[Ranked 12th]

He was beasting just before that injury.. Way too many minutes though:(


Meltdown :lol

[feyki]

You forgot to add that it took Kobe more FGA on worse percentages than Lebron for a slightly higher PPG.

You also left off Lebron having more assists, rebounds, blocks, steal, and less turnovers while playing better defense.
And he's a 1st seed while it took Kobe some extreme ref help just to make the playoffs with Dwight, Nash, Pau, Artest...

Lebron in arguably his worst shooting season still has a higher FG%, eFG%, and TS% than Kobe:roll:

Higher TS :D .

%57.1 > %57 , you're right :lol .

Lebron didn't see %57 TS in his first five seasons .

Kobe played with %58 TS while Lebron played with %55 TS in 2007 .

And when it mattered , Kobe always played with better shooting performances .



Back to thread ..

Kobe got so much criticism for his fg% . But he averaged as good as Shaq TS% in thru 2000-2004 . And He averaged better TS% than Lebron in between 05-08 .

Lebron and Shaq known as efficient but Kobe not . Double standard .

[aj1987]

Higher TS :D .

%57.1 > %57 , you're right :lol .

Lebron didn't see %57 TS in his first five seasons .

Kobe played with %58 TS while Lebron played with %55 TS in 2007 .

And when it mattered , Kobe always played with better shooting performances .



Back to thread ..

Kobe got so much criticism for his fg% . But he averaged as good as Shaq TS% in thru 2000-2004 . And He averaged better TS% than Lebron in between 05-08 .

Lebron and Shaq known as efficient but Kobe not . Double standard .
'05-'08 was basically Kobe's peak and LeBron just entered the league. If you go season wise, Kobe averaged 55% TS over his 2nd-5th seasons and LeBron averaged 56% TS. Heck, even during those seasons, LeBron averaged only 1% less than PEAK Kobe.

[Smoke117]

meltdown.

[feyki]

'05-'08 was basically Kobe's peak and LeBron just entered the league. If you go season wise, Kobe averaged 55% TS over his 2nd-5th seasons and LeBron averaged 56% TS. Heck, even during those seasons, LeBron averaged only 1% less than PEAK Kobe.

Kobe played in toughest era after 80 . If you going with your logic , Lebron > Shaq too .

Also , Lebron played with %55 and %53 TS in b2b finals when he averaging nearly %65 TS on seasons .

Against thougher competitions , Kobe was always better(shooting wise ) .

[sportjames23]

Meltdown :lol


:lol nwodtleM

[aj1987]

Kobe played in toughest era after 80 . If you going with your logic , Lebron > Shaq too .

Also , Lebron played with %55 and %53 TS in b2b finals when he averaging nearly %65 TS on seasons .

Against thougher competitions , Kobe was always better(shooting wise ) .
Really? 'Cause Kobe shoots much worse than LeBron in the Finals. For his career, Kobe is a 41% shooter in the Finals, compared to LeBron's 45%.

Also, :wtf: Where did you get LeBron > Shaq from?

Kobe's greatest asset, which LeBron sucks at? Shooting. For their careers, LeBron is only 3% worse on jumpshots than Kobe. For their careers.

[ImKobe]

'05-'08 was basically Kobe's peak and LeBron just entered the league. If you go season wise, Kobe averaged 55% TS over his 2nd-5th seasons and LeBron averaged 56% TS. Heck, even during those seasons, LeBron averaged only 1% less than PEAK Kobe.

So what?

Lebron early in his career got by with scoring most of his points in the paint since no one could contest him inside without fouling him (im talking about the average NBA team and not the San Antonio Spurs that completely exposed Lebron's lack of scoring ability outside the paint)

yet Kobe as a jump shooter has better scoring seasons than peak bran and Shaq and while Lebron got swept by the San Antonio squad

Lebron is declining rather quick and will continue to because his game is so dependent on his atletic ability, he's on the same level as a shooter as a 20th season Kobe

as much shit as people might give Kobe for his "inefficient" chucking, he maintained his level of play until tearing his achilles in his 17th season...most of these athletic freaks who put up crazy efficient numbers in their primes don't even last 15 years in the league, much less maintain a consistent level of production for a decade+

Kobe's numbers in his 17th season were on par or even better than his numbers in his 7th year while playing with Shaq, and he had legit knee issues a couple years before that already

Lebron was an unstoppable force much like Shaq in his prime but his dropoff is also going to be sudden like Shaq's.

Kobe was putting up 27/6/6 17th year
Lebron is putting up 25/7/7 13th year

both have the same true shooting percentage

one plays with two other all-stars and a decent bench

other had d-league players starting and was forced to play 40+ minutes by the end of the season because otherwise they would lose

lol

[Bankaii]

Higher TS :D .

%57.1 > %57 , you're right :lol .

Lebron didn't see %57 TS in his first five seasons .

Kobe played with %58 TS while Lebron played with %55 TS in 2007 .

And when it mattered , Kobe always played with better shooting performances .



Back to thread ..

Kobe got so much criticism for his fg% . But he averaged as good as Shaq TS% in thru 2000-2004 . And He averaged better TS% than Lebron in between 05-08 .

Lebron and Shaq known as efficient but Kobe not . Double standard .
Why are you comparing 3-4 year Lebron to peak Kobe? That's dumb.

The OP compared 2 specific seasons, the two I posted stats for.
Comparing the 2 at the same age makes far more since.
And lol at Kobe playing in a "tougher era".:roll:

And no, when it mattered Kibe shot like shit. His game 7 and Closeout games stats are absolutely horrible.
Provide something with you claims instead of just babbling on.

[aj1987]

So what?

Lebron early in his career got by with scoring most of his points in the paint since no one could contest him inside without fouling him (im talking about the average NBA team and not the San Antonio Spurs that completely exposed Lebron's lack of scoring ability outside the paint)
What's Kobe's excuse for shooting like dog shit against EC teams? The great shooter and legendary mid-range shooter? :wtf:

FACT is, Kobe is a career 40% shooter from mid-range. LeBron is at 37%. Kobe is not even close to being in MJ's class as a mid-range shooter and is not elite either.


yet Kobe as a jump shooter has better scoring seasons than peak bran and Shaq and while Lebron got swept by the San Antonio squad
Do you know that Kobe once scored as much as Austin Croshere? In the NBA Finals, no less.


Lebron is declining rather quick and will continue to because his game is so dependent on his atletic ability, he's on the same level as a shooter as a 20th season Kobe
Yet, LeBron is putting up 25 PPG on nearly the same efficiency as PEAK Kobe. :roll:

A declining LeBron = Peak Kobe


Lebron was an unstoppable force much like Shaq in his prime but his dropoff is also going to be sudden like Shaq's.
Shaq's drop-off started in '04 and was pretty much gradual. Dude still put up something like 19/9 with the Suns.


Kobe was putting up 27/6/6 17th year
Lebron is putting up 25/7/7 13th year
Ok....?

Kobe in his 13th season 27/5/5
LeBron in his 13th season 25/7/7

LeBron and Kobe at 31:

LeBron - 18.9 FGA
Kobe - 21.5 FGA

LeBron - 6.8 FTA
Kobe - 7.4 FTA

So, Kobe basically took 2.5 shots and a FT more than LeBron and managed only 2 points more on 3% worse efficiency, while being a worse playmaker.

Kobe can score in more ways, but who gives a shit? Points are points, however you get them.

While we're at it:

40+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 3
Kobe - 1

35+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 6
Kobe - 4

30+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 12
Kobe - 13

Total number of games played in the Finals:

LeBron - 33
Kobe - 37

45+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 7
Kobe - 5

40+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 15
Kobe - 13

35+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 35
Kobe - 35

30+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 80
Kobe - 88

Total number of games played in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 178
Kobe - 220

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Career Finals Average (Kobe): 25.1/5.6/5.1/1.4/.7 shooting 41%
Career Finals Average (LeBron): 26.2/9.4/6.8/1.7/.5 shooting 46%


one plays with two other all-stars and a decent bench

other had d-league players starting and was forced to play 40+ minutes by the end of the season because otherwise they would lose

lol
I agree. DPOY and All-Star Dwight; DPOY and All-Star Metta, 2x MVP Nash, etc..

[feyki]

Why are you comparing 3-4 year Lebron to peak Kobe? That's dumb.





Lebron in arguably his worst shooting season still has a higher FG%, eFG%, and TS% than Kobe:roll:


So , you're dumb ?





And lol at Kobe playing in a "tougher era".:roll:


2000-2004 era points per poss was around 1.02 to 1.04 .

2006-2015 era points per poss was around 1.06 to 1.07 . Specially 08-11 era was around 108 to 109 .




And no, when it mattered Kibe shot like shit. His game 7 and Closeout games stats are absolutely horrible.
Provide something with you claims instead of just babbling on



Yes , Lebron didn't averaged %43 TS and %48 TS in his first and last finals . When Kobe in his prime , he didn't averaged worse than %50 TS in finals .






Also, :wtf: Where did you get LeBron > Shaq from?




'05-'08 was basically Kobe's peak and LeBron just entered the league. If you go season wise, Kobe averaged 55% TS over his 2nd-5th seasons and LeBron averaged 56% TS.

[Im Still Ballin]

Damn. AJ going all-day in this dude. RIP

[IllegalD]

If by "going in" you mean blatantly making sh*t up, sure.

:roll: @ you bringing up a 50 year old injured Steve Nash and pretending like he was still an MVP caliber player that year.

Not even Metta World Peace was all-star level anymore.

[Ranked 12th]

Why don't we compare them with minutes played in career instead of age?


LeBrons at 43000



Kobe was a bench warmer his first 5 seasons

[Im Still Ballin]

Why don't we compare them with minutes played in career instead of age?


LeBrons at 43000



Kobe was a bench warmer his first 5 seasons
Damn.

THE FRESH LEGS

[aj1987]

If by "going in" you mean blatantly making sh*t up, sure.

:roll: @ you bringing up a 50 year old injured Steve Nash and pretending like he was still an MVP caliber player that year.

Not even Metta World Peace was all-star level anymore.
Retard, go back and read your fellow Chokebe *** guzzlers post. I was just agreeing with him.

I'll just post it here:


one plays with two other all-stars and a decent bench

other had d-league players starting and was forced to play 40+ minutes by the end of the season because otherwise they would lose

lol
Now, tell me how many All-Stars are on the '16 Cavs' squad. I'm 100% sure that the Lakers had 1 (besides Chokebe).

[Dragonyeuw]

Kobe was a bench warmer his first 5 seasons

Kobe was a starter in his third, and putting up 28.5 in his 5th. What are you talking about?

[NBASTATMAN]

Kobe had the greatest season in NBA history for any 34 year old player.


DANTONI SYSTEM NUMBERS :facepalm

PAU Gasol's 34 yr old season was just as good.. Second team ALL NBA and about the same PER as KOBE.. His team made the playoffs..

[ShawkFactory]

Stalker at 34 vs People who are educated at 22. Who's better? :confusedshrug:

[Ranked 12th]

Stalker at 34 vs People who are educated at 22. Who's better? :confusedshrug:

:roll:


Justin is the biggest waste of life in the history of civilization.

[IllegalD]

:roll:


Justin is the biggest waste of life in the history of civilization.

Well, he has kids. Which means his p*enis has been inside of a woman's v*agina.

That's more than you can say, Simon.

[riseagainst]

So he didn't make the playoffs.

Okay


but he singlehandedly carried his team to the playoffs. As a result he sacrificed his own health for the better of the team. #Jesus

How....
Great....
Is....
Our...
Gawd....

:bowdown:

[STATUTORY]

Kobe would still be better TODAY if it hadn't been for the achilles

[Bankaii]

So , you're dumb ?




2000-2004 era points per poss was around 1.02 to 1.04 .

2006-2015 era points per poss was around 1.06 to 1.07 . Specially 08-11 era was around 108 to 109 .



Yes , Lebron didn't averaged %43 TS and %48 TS in his first and last finals . When Kobe in his prime , he didn't averaged worse than %50 TS in finals .
Your reading comprehension is extremely low. Look at the thread title. We are comparing 2015 Bron to 2013 Kobe, which is what my post you quoted is relative to.

You are using a very specific and almost irrelevant stat to generalize an entire era.
Current West > 2000s West
Current East > 2000s East
This era is byfar much tougher in terms of teams and talent.

So 22 is Lebron's prime but 22 for Kobe (where he averaged 41% TS in the 2000 Finals) isn't his prime?:roll:
My goodness you're dumb:hammerhead:

And did Kobe ever have to play in a Finals against arguably the GOAT team without his second and third scoring option?
Even so. Lebron averaged 36 points on 48 TS%. I'd easily take that over Kobe averaging 4-10 less points on 3-4 better TS% in his Finals.

[feyki]

Your reading comprehension is extremely low. Look at the thread title. We are comparing 2015 Bron to 2013 Kobe, which is what my post you quoted is relative to.

You are using a very specific and almost irrelevant stat to generalize an entire era.
Current West > 2000s West
Current East > 2000s East
This era is byfar much tougher in terms of teams and talent.

So 22 is Lebron's prime but 22 for Kobe (where he averaged 41% TS in the 2000 Finals) isn't his prime?:roll:
My goodness you're dumb:hammerhead:

And did Kobe ever have to play in a Finals against arguably the GOAT team without his second and third scoring option?
Even so. Lebron averaged 36 points on 48 TS%. I'd easily take that over Kobe averaging 4-10 less points on 3-4 better TS% in his Finals.

:applause: Amazing post .

[stalkerforlife]

Simon is getting absolutely tortured in this thread.

Stick to the trolling, dude...the big boy shit is for the really smart ones.

[Bankaii]

:applause: Amazing post .
If you're being sarcastic, hold this L.
If you legitimately mean that, thank you.

[feyki]

If you're being sarcastic, hold this L.
If you legitimately mean that, thank you.

I prefer L , thanks .

[stalkerforlife]

I prefer L , thanks .

ether

[Zach LaVine]

Kobe had the greatest season in NBA history for any 34 year old player.
There were clearly better 34 year olds. MJ and Kareem just off the top of my head.

[Keno]

You forgot to add that it took Kobe more FGA on worse percentages than Lebron for a slightly higher PPG.

You also left off Lebron having more assists, rebounds, blocks, steal, and less turnovers while playing better defense.
And he's a 1st seed while it took Kobe some extreme ref help just to make the playoffs with Dwight, Nash, Pau, Artest...

Lebron in arguably his worst shooting season still has a higher FG%, eFG%, and TS% than Kobe:roll:

damn, straight ether.

[TheImmortal]

Bran is straight garbage compared to Bean.. not surprised.

[NBASTATMAN]

PEAK LEBRON AND KOBE ARE GARBAGE TO CURRENT CURRY... THAT IS THE TRUTH...

CURRY LIVES:rockon: :applause: :bowdown:

[PP34Deuce]

Lebron's 31 is that of a 34 year old man though.... Kobe was a young 31.

Kobe didn't start playing 30 plus minutes until his 3rd year... Lebron was playing 35mins per game off the bat and continously deep in the playoffs for years.

His mileage is different from most 31 year olds.

[Zach LaVine]

You forgot to add that it took Kobe more FGA on worse percentages than Lebron for a slightly higher PPG.

You also left off Lebron having more assists, rebounds, blocks, steal, and less turnovers while playing better defense.
And he's a 1st seed while it took Kobe some extreme ref help just to make the playoffs with Dwight, Nash, Pau, Artest...

Lebron in arguably his worst shooting season still has a higher FG%, eFG%, and TS% than Kobe:roll:
:eek: