LeBron James with no Dwayne Wade has zero titles

[TommyGriffin]

Another reason why LeBron is not in my top 10.

[Ranked 12th]

I'm a die hard Kobe fan, but I'm also a fan of OP, however he has shown to be a poor poster time and time again. Hopefully he can improve or else I fear he goes down the same path as Jabbar and warriorfan

[Nilocon165]

Thanks for the expert insight

[Bankaii]

TommyGriffin, Warriorsfan, Vectors, Monta Ellis MVP, Mr Jabbar, Eye Test...

Did I miss any you no life, multi personality fgt?

[TommyGriffin]

I'm a die hard Kobe fan, but I'm also a fan of OP, however he has shown to be a poor poster time and time again. Hopefully he can improve or else I fear he goes down the same path as Jabbar and warriorfan
I am not a huge Kobe fan, I can respect what he has done for the game of basketball though. However I have to disagree about Jabbar and warriorfan, they are quality posters on this website.

[Straight_Ballin]

Shit footwork with a broken jump shot....that's what prevents you from going 4/4 with Wade instead of 2/4.

[InsanityKills]

TommyGriffin, Warriorsfan, Vectors, Monta Ellis MVP, Mr Jabbar, Eye Test...

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[JohnMax]

Lebron's poor efficiency at high volumes mean he doesn't require a double-team (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=384848)

He hasn't been double-teamed for the last 3 Finals, most obviously in 2015.. There's no danger in letting Lebron shoot 39% at 33 fga, so there was no need to take the ball out of his hands to prevent the high volume in the 2015 Finals.. Lebron's inability to have good efficiency at high volume allowed the Warriors to permit his secluded 1-on-1 clearouts all series long - it was part of their exploitative strategy.. The best option for ANY defense is to allow low percentage shots over and over..

This specific dynamic where Lebron UN-complicates the opponent's defensive strategy by not commanding a double-team, puts him outside of the top 15 all-time.. His inability to command a double team (due to his poor midrange and resulting inability to shoot well at high volumes) is a horrible indictment on his game compared to his peers.

Also, no one has ever gotten such secluded clearouts, probably in history, than what Lebron got in 2015 Finals.. So there's no excuse for Lebron's 39% shooting (other than him not being capable of good efficiency at high volume).

[stalkerforlife]

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[stalkerforlife]

Lebron's poor efficiency at high volumes mean he doesn't require a double-team (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=384848)

He hasn't been double-teamed for the last 3 Finals, most obviously in 2015.. There's no danger in letting Lebron shoot 39% at 33 fga, so there was no need to take the ball out of his hands to prevent the high volume in the 2015 Finals.. Lebron's inability to have good efficiency at high volume allowed the Warriors to permit his secluded 1-on-1 clearouts all series long - it was part of their exploitative strategy.. The best option for ANY defense is to allow low percentage shots over and over..

This specific dynamic where Lebron UN-complicates the opponent's defensive strategy by not commanding a double-team, puts him outside of the top 15 all-time.. His inability to command a double team (due to his poor midrange and resulting inability to shoot well at high volumes) is a horrible indictment on his game compared to his peers.

Also, no one has ever gotten such secluded clearouts, probably in history, than what Lebron got in 2015 Finals.. So there's no excuse for Lebron's 39% shooting (other than him not being capable of good efficiency at high volume).

Another one.

[SouBeachTalents]

Lebron's poor efficiency at high volumes mean he doesn't require a double-team (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=384848)

He hasn't been double-teamed for the last 3 Finals, most obviously in 2015.. There's no danger in letting Lebron shoot 39% at 33 fga, so there was no need to take the ball out of his hands to prevent the high volume in the 2015 Finals.. Lebron's inability to have good efficiency at high volume allowed the Warriors to permit his secluded 1-on-1 clearouts all series long - it was part of their exploitative strategy.. The best option for ANY defense is to allow low percentage shots over and over..

This specific dynamic where Lebron UN-complicates the opponent's defensive strategy by not commanding a double-team, puts him outside of the top 15 all-time.. His inability to command a double team (due to his poor midrange and resulting inability to shoot well at high volumes) is a horrible indictment on his game compared to his peers.

Also, no one has ever gotten such secluded clearouts, probably in history, than what Lebron got in 2015 Finals.. So there's no excuse for Lebron's 39% shooting (other than him not being capable of good efficiency at high volume).

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[Kvnzhangyay]

Another reason why LeBron is not in my top 10.

But your opinion doesn't matter, as ESPN has him 3rd all time

ESPN relies on viewers, so it has to keep up with the popular opinion, which is evidently that Lebron is 3rd all time (It HAS to reflect the majority's opinion or it won't be a successful company)

You may have your belief but it won't change the majority's opinion, as reflected by ESPN

[pauk]

Michael Jordan with no Scottie Pippen has zero titles

Another reason why Jordan is not in my top 10?

:biggums:

[Straight_Ballin]

Michael Jordan with no Scottie Pippen has zero titles

Another reason why Jordan is not in my top 10?

:biggums:

Jordan made Pippen.

Bron didn't make shit other than pissed off teammates who ****ed his mom....

[Straight_Ballin]

But your opinion doesn't matter, as ESPN has him 3rd all time

ESPN relies on viewers, so it has to keep up with the popular opinion, which is evidently that Lebron is 3rd all time (It HAS to reflect the majority's opinion or it won't be a successful company)

You may have your belief but it won't change the majority's opinion, as reflected by ESPN

Negative. EPSN THINKS that that is the majorities opinion, but a quick review of several other top 10 lists from SLAM and other sources has Lebron no where near #3.

[Kvnzhangyay]

Negative. EPSN THINKS that that is the majorities opinion, but a quick review of several other top 10 lists from SLAM and other sources has Lebron no where near #3.

Those other "sources" are not public companies and thus don't have to follow the majority opinion as much as DIS: http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=DIS

Although, me being too lazy to analyze fundamentals, I would set a sell short limit order just going off of moving averaging convergence alone

So I guess you're right in that ESPN/Disney is not doing a good job

[Straight_Ballin]

Those other "sources" are not public companies and thus don't have to follow the majority opinion as much as DIS: http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=DIS

Although, me being too lazy to analyze fundamentals, I would set a sell short limit order just going off of moving averaging convergence alone

So I guess you're right in that ESPN/Disney is not doing a good job

So let me ask you this then.. how many of these sources below are you going to take as being more representative of top 10 relative to ESPN?

SLAM 500 Greatest NBA Players of All Time | Basketball-Reference.com (http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/slam_500_greatest.html)
Top 50 Greatest NBA Players Of All-Time: Where Jordan, Kobe, LeBron And Bird Land On The Basketball List (http://www.ibtimes.com/top-50-greatest-nba-players-all-time-where-jordan-kobe-lebron-bird-land-basketball-1952638)
[url=http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/02/todays-sports-post-the-top-50-nba-players-of-all-time.php]Today

[Kvnzhangyay]

[QUOTE=Straight_Ballin]So let me ask you this then.. how many of these sources below are you going to take as being more representative of top 10 relative to ESPN?

SLAM 500 Greatest NBA Players of All Time | Basketball-Reference.com (http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/slam_500_greatest.html)
Top 50 Greatest NBA Players Of All-Time: Where Jordan, Kobe, LeBron And Bird Land On The Basketball List (http://www.ibtimes.com/top-50-greatest-nba-players-all-time-where-jordan-kobe-lebron-bird-land-basketball-1952638)
[url=http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/02/todays-sports-post-the-top-50-nba-players-of-all-time.php]Today

[SouBeachTalents]

[QUOTE=Straight_Ballin]So let me ask you this then.. how many of these sources below are you going to take as being more representative of top 10 relative to ESPN?

SLAM 500 Greatest NBA Players of All Time | Basketball-Reference.com (http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/slam_500_greatest.html)
Top 50 Greatest NBA Players Of All-Time: Where Jordan, Kobe, LeBron And Bird Land On The Basketball List (http://www.ibtimes.com/top-50-greatest-nba-players-all-time-where-jordan-kobe-lebron-bird-land-basketball-1952638)
[url=http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/02/todays-sports-post-the-top-50-nba-players-of-all-time.php]Today

[SouBeachTalents]

3 of those had Oscar top 5 as well

[Straight_Ballin]

No list is going to agree with everyone, but I'd take any of those sources over ESPN.....

[SouBeachTalents]

No list is going to agree with everyone, but I'd take any of those sources over ESPN.....

You'd take the one that has LeBron as GOAT? :biggums:

[Springsteen]

Jordan made Pippen.

Bron didn't make shit other than pissed off teammates who ****ed his mom....

Really? What was the Bulls record in 94 after Jordan left again, with Pippen taking precedence?

Didn't their defense statistically improve? :D

[Straight_Ballin]

Really? What was the Bulls record in 94 after Jordan left again, with Pippen taking precedence?

Didn't their defense statistically improve? :D

Pippen arrived well before 94....

It's documented that Jordan would workout with Pippen at MJ's house, everyday before practice and then Pippen would have to cover MJ at practice. Jordan molded raw Pippen.

Wade was Wade before he even knew of Lebron. Anyone can just join another super star or two......

[pauk]

Jordan made Pippen.

Bron didn't make shit other than pissed off teammates who ****ed his mom....

Jordan made Pippen? What? Besides, stop trying to contradict your own logic, he still has zero titles without Pippen... whether he made him by way of a somatic cell nuclear transfer on a enucleated egg containing specific designed dna fused together with the subject's cell using electricity creating an embryo which is implanted into a surrogate mother through in vitro fertilization... or not...

[warriorfan]

Hey dipshits

Dwayne Wade > Scottie Pippen

:facepalm

[tomSR.]

Lebron's poor efficiency at high volumes mean he doesn't require a double-team (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=384848)

He hasn't been double-teamed for the last 3 Finals, most obviously in 2015.. There's no danger in letting Lebron shoot 39% at 33 fga, so there was no need to take the ball out of his hands to prevent the high volume in the 2015 Finals..

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what about his mom doe ? surely that must count for something

[WayOfWade]

This thread absolutely blows, no good basketball discussion to be had here. Please be original and post something productive

[ISHGoat]

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