Can Cruz even become a U.S. president?

[Jameerthefear]

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Let's say he somehow becomes the Rep. candidate... couldn't Trump or Hillary or really whoever just sue him or something, and the decision on whether he could become president or not would have to be decided by the SC? Funny how Republicans we're all on Obama with this birther shit when he was clearly born in the U.S., but are mostly silent on this. That's Cruz's birth certificate above.

[Im Still Ballin]

Depends on the interpretation of a naturalized citizen via child born abroad to an American parent. There's something about it in the constitution, that I'm pretty sure is taken out of context... (But then again, the US has been disrespecting the constitution for awhile now)
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[fiddy]

If Obongo (kenyan national) could, why not. After all there's no such thing as american national.

[Jameerthefear]

Depends on the interpretation of a naturalized citizen via child born abroad to an American parent. There's something about it in the constitution, that I'm pretty sure is taken out of context... (But then again, the US has been disrespecting the constitution for awhile now)
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The Supreme Court would definitely have to rule on it.

[Im Still Ballin]

I think there is like a stipulation where, to run for president, he must spend a certain amount of time living in the country. He was an American citizen the moment he was born, just as I am.... But there are certain clauses running for president I am pretty sure

[Jameerthefear]

If Obongo (kenyan national) could, why not. After all there's no such thing as american national.
I know you live in Bulgaria and the news stream is slow in 3rd world countries, but Obama released his birth certificate 5 years ago.

[Im Still Ballin]

But irrelevant really. No way would he get denied on these grounds. It would send a harsh message and would be abnormal in today's fairy floss society about immigration and citizenship

[fiddy]

I know you live in Bulgaria and the news stream is slow in 3rd world countries, but Obama released his birth certificate 5 years ago.
You took bait pretty well obviously.

[Jameerthefear]

I think there is like a stipulation where, to run for president, he must spend a certain amount of time living in the country. He was an American citizen the moment he was born, just as I am.... But there are certain clauses running for president I am pretty sure
That's not the argument though. The argument is whether he's a natural born citizen or not. I think legally you'd argue that he was a citizen at birth because his mother was American. I don't think he'd lose, but it's something to think about.

[embersyc]

His mother is born in the USA, that makes him a US Citizen.

[NumberSix]

You can't be both a natural born citizen of Canada and the United States at the same time

[Im Still Ballin]

That's not the argument though. The argument is whether he's a natural born citizen or not. I think legally you'd argue that he was a citizen at birth because his mother was American. I don't think he'd lose, but it's something to think about.
Trump has brought it up numerous times

No one (particularly the media) seems to care

The issue is the interpretation of the constitution regarding this issue... But that old piece of paper has been abused for awhile now

Not that this is an overly big issue

Even if Cruz was born in America

He's still an evil fat ass who is hated by his own daughter

[Jameerthefear]

His mother is born in the USA, that makes him a US Citizen.
That's not the question though. It's whether he's a natural born citizen.
See, I don't really think it matters personally, but after the birther shit about Obama, Republicans are silent on this one.

The reason a question still remains even after Romney, Goldwater and McCain is because the Supreme Court — the ultimate arbiter of constitutional questions — has never directly ruled on the citizenship provision for presidential office holders. And that means a note of uncertainty remains.

Some have unsuccessfully challenged the qualifications of presidential contenders, but courts have been reluctant to address the issue. Several citizens filed lawsuits asking the court to rule on whether McCain was a natural born citizen early in 2008, but the legal challenges didn’t go anywhere.

"We know from the McCain lawsuits, courts don’t want to touch this," said Sarah Duggin, a professor of law at Catholic University who has researched this issue extensively. "It very well may be that the courts would refuse to go near this. There are so many issues."

Partly, Duggin said, citizens who triggered the lawsuits in the past don’t have standing to sue.

But courts may be forced to weigh in if one of two things occur: A state, citing Cruz’s Canadian birthplace, tries to exclude him from the ballot; or another presidential candidate challenges Cruz’s eligibility.

Neither scenario is likely, though there may be a potential wild card this go around: Donald Trump.

The business tycoon and television personality was one of the most outspoken birthers who claimed Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii. While others who erroneously questioned Obama’s birthplace have been silent on Cruz, Trump, a fellow Republican, has not.

"It’s a hurdle. Somebody could certainly look at it very seriously," Trump told a New York news outlet Monday. "He was born in Canada. If you know and when we all studied our history lessons, you are supposed to be born in this country, so I just don't know how the courts will rule on this."

Trump is also exploring a presidential bid. If he did enter the race, it could give him standing to launch a lawsuit against Cruz.

The courts could still punt on the question, Duggin said. They could consider this a political question, in which case it would be out of bounds for the courts to interject.

But until it happens, or until a constitutional amendment clarifies matters, we won’t know for sure.

"No matter how many people opine," Duggin said, "There’s always going to be that issue."
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/mar/26/ted-cruz-born-canada-eligible-run-president-update/

[Jameerthefear]

You can't be both a natural born citizen of Canada and the United States at the same time
He renounced his citizenship in Canada if that means anything.

[Jameerthefear]

Trump has brought it up numerous times

No one (particularly the media) seems to care

The issue is the interpretation of the constitution regarding this issue... But that old piece of paper has been abused for awhile now

Not that this is an overly big issue

Even if Cruz was born in America

He's still an evil fat ass who is hated by his own daughter
The thing is though, I'm pretty sure Trump could sue if he say, lost the nom or didn't get it in a brokered convention.

[NumberSix]

He renounced his citizenship in Canada if that means anything.
It doesn't. He was already born a natural born canadian citizen. That ship has sailed.

[fiddy]

bunch of nobodies arguing about "nationality" top kek

[NumberSix]

Because "Natrual born citizen" isn't clearly defined in the constitution
Neither is "religion". Doesn't mean we all get to pretend it means whatever the hell we want it to mean.

[Im Still Ballin]

"hardcore constitution-alists HATE him!"

[Patrick Chewing]

Who wants to take the Cruz bet that he will be the nominee??

I've already won victories against KevinNYC, Droid, PhantomCreep and the list goes on and on.

[Duderonomy]

http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/politifact%2Fphotos%2Fcruzfbmeme032515pft.jpg
You can't make this sh** up.

[Draz]

http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/politifact%2Fphotos%2Fcruzfbmeme032515pft.jpg
You can't make this sh** up.
Well he is being brutally honest. Gays only make up a small percentage.

[bladefd]

The thing is though, I'm pretty sure Trump could sue if he say, lost the nom or didn't get it in a brokered convention.

Imagine the craziness that would ensue if Trump actually did that :roll:

[Hawker]

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You can't make this sh** up.

Well considering that the quote actually is made up, you can.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/transcript-ted-cruzs-speech-at-liberty-university/2015/03/23/41c4011a-d168-11e4-a62f-ee745911a4ff_story.html

There's the transcript. CRTL+F constitution and you won't find that quote.

[Patrick Chewing]

Well considering that the quote actually is made up, you can.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/transcript-ted-cruzs-speech-at-liberty-university/2015/03/23/41c4011a-d168-11e4-a62f-ee745911a4ff_story.html

There's the transcript. CRTL+F constitution and you won't find that quote.


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You can't bring Ted down with lies. You trolls and low-IQ voters need to begin to wisen up to the fact that Ted Cruz will beat Trump, beat Hillary, and be the next President of the United States.

[Stu Jackson]

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You can't bring Ted down with lies. You trolls and low-IQ voters need to begin to wisen up to the fact that Ted Cruz will beat Trump, beat Hillary, and be the next President of the United States.
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