Dirk Nowitzki is easily the greatest 37 year old NBA player ever.

[masonanddixon]

Let's give some props for Dirk playing like a top 6-10 player in the twilight of his career.

[aj1987]

KAJ - 22/8/3/2 on 63% TS
Malone - 23/8/5/1/1 on 57% TS
TD - 15/10/3/2 and elite defense (won ring averaging 15/10/2/1 in the Finals and 16/10/2/1 in the PO's)


Dirk - 18/7/2/1/1 with turnstile defense

[masonanddixon]

KAJ - 22/8/3/2 on 63% TS
Malone - 23/8/5/1/1 on 57% TS
TD - 15/10/3/2 and elite defense (won ring averaging 15/10/2/1 in the Finals and 16/10/2/1 in the PO's)


Dirk - 18/7/2/1/1 with turnstile defense

He's playing very good defense right now you curry muncher. And on one of weakest rosters in the NBA.

[IllegalD]

Let's give some props for Dirk playing like a top 6-10 player in the twilight of his career.


Then you have the gull to wonder why people hate on Dirk... :facepalm

[aj1987]

He's playing very good defense right now you curry muncher. And on one of weakest rosters in the NBA.
Dude is a negative on the defensive end and the Mav's are a terrible defensive team. According to NBA player tracking, the player who Dirk is guarding is shooting better against him, than the rest of the league.

You were saying, you autistic waste of oxygen?

[masonanddixon]

Dude is a negative on the defensive end and the Mav's are a terrible defensive team. According to NBA player tracking, the player who Dirk is guarding is shooting better against him, than the rest of the league.

You were saying, you autistic waste of oxygen?

You're a damned moron. Watch the games. He's beasting on defense.

[Kawhi]

KAJ - 22/8/3/2 on 63% TS
Malone - 23/8/5/1/1 on 57% TS
TD - 15/10/3/2 and elite defense (won ring averaging 15/10/2/1 in the Finals and 16/10/2/1 in the PO's)


Dirk - 18/7/2/1/1 with turnstile defense
Jordan 23/5/5
Wilkins 18/6/2

[aj1987]

You're a damned moron. Watch the games. He's beasting on defense.
I'm glad that you accept this L. :cheers:

[masonanddixon]

I'm glad that you accept this L. :cheers:

I accept nothing from someone who should be serving me slurpees.

The problem with idiots like you is you know nothing about the game. Watch the games and you'll see that Dirk is excellent at cutting off angles and forcing his man into tough shots.

[aj1987]

I accept nothing from someone who should be serving me slurpees.

The problem with idiots like you is you know nothing about the game. Watch the games and you'll see that Dirk is excellent at cutting off angles and forcing his man into tough shots.
Then how do you explain the players Dirk guard having better shooting percentages against him than others? Prime Dirk was an average defender at best and you're saying that a 37 year old Dirk is "beasting on defense"? ****ing moron.


Oh, and the only time I'd be serving you anything is if I'm doing charity work and you're homeless and waiting in line for your first meal in days.

[Kblaze8855]

Kareem turned 38 2 days before the 85 playoffs started. After being destroyed game 1 of the finals....

He had 30/17/8 3 blocks in game 2 on 58% shooting.

26/14/7/2/2 in game 2 shooting 77%

21/6/4 on 58

36/7/7/3 on 57

29/7/4 to win the ring....and finals MVP.

And he goes into the next season and ends up all nba first team. He had like 3 40 point games vs Hakeem when he was 37-38.

Here he is at 38 giving Hakeem and Sampson 46 points on 70% shooting:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw_ilZwOMms

And he shot 17/26 the previous game against them.

Kareem was still playing the likes of Hakeem as an equal at 39. Hakeem got the best of him in the playoffs but he put up 27 a game on 50% shooting.

Whatever Dirk is...he isnt "easily" better than that Kareem.

[Gileraracer]

If you watch games not box scores you can see that Dirk's playing great

[masonanddixon]

Then how do you explain the players Dirk guard having better shooting percentages against him than others? Prime Dirk was an average defender at best and you're saying that a 37 year old Dirk is "beasting on defense"? ****ing moron.


Oh, and the only time I'd be serving you anything is if I'm doing charity work and you're homeless and waiting in line for your first meal in days.

LMFAO. You were probably 8 back in 05-06. He's been a very good defender for the past 11 years, son.

[masonanddixon]

If you watch games not box scores you can see that Dirk's playing great

This.

I love how this little turd is sitting here quoting box scores as evidence that Dirk doesn't 'play defense'. Thats the telltale sign that someone knows jack shit about the game.

[pastis]

If you watch games not box scores you can see that Dirk's playing great

so much this.

and then he will be gassed and exhausted when playoff begun, while DUncan can cakewalk since 2007 through the RS and save his energy for the playoffs.
it is what it is

[WayOfWade]

While he is playing pretty good for his age, this is an exaggeration. A already pointed out, KAJ as well as Malone and a couple others played a little better. Add in that the Mavs might not even make the playoffs this year and that hurts his case a little bit. Still a great player though, arguably top 20 all-time

*Edit: This is entirely based on stat-watching though, seeing as I never really saw KAJ or Malone all too much and really don't watch the Mavericks

[stalkerforlife]

Dirk's been an underrated defender for a long time.

[pastis]

While he is playing pretty good for his age, this is an exaggeration. A already pointed out, KAJ as well as Malone and a couple others played a little better. Add in that the Mavs might not even make the playoffs this year and that hurts his case a little bit. Still a great player though, arguably top 20 all-time

*Edit: This is entirely based on stat-watching though, seeing as I never really saw KAJ or Malone all too much and really don't watch the Mavericks

this is right. but you have to consider teamm8s as well (KAJ).
right now, matthews is shooting 38% for the season. D-will 41%, Felton 40%, pachulia (as a Center) 46%.

Malones playing style is not as exhausting as dirks, because he never had to run like a crazy horse and being chased by enemies defender through the whole basketball court, just to get the ball in his hands.


there was a nice thread, where user "Markmadsen" destroyed TLP regarding Dirk Nowitzki and TIm Duncan, because TD can save so much energy through the RS since at least 2007. TDs teams were always competitive and easily plaoyff calibre without TD, while Dirks teams would miss the playoffs if you take DIrk away. Dirk is always gassd reaching the playoffs.
TBH same goes for Kobe bryant. Look how he carried his team in 2012 and 2013 or in 2006? he was gassed as hell, while TD cakewalked

[aj1987]

LMFAO. You were probably 8 back in 05-06. He's been a very good defender for the past 11 years, son.
:wtf:

Holy delusional Batman.

This article is form last season:

http://basketball.realgm.com/article/237486/Dirks-Defense-Proving-To-Be-An-Ever-Growing-Problem-For-Dallas


I love how this little turd is sitting here quoting box scores as evidence that Dirk doesn't 'play defense'. Thats the telltale sign that someone knows jack shit about the game.
I have watched more games just this season than you have in your entire life, wannabe doctor. You're a sad little kid pretending to be a doctor and you basically never watch games. Also, you're the autistic shit who said Hayward is better than Kawhi. :oldlol:


there was a nice thread, where user "Markmadsen" destroyed TLP regarding Dirk Nowitzki and TIm Duncan, because TD can save so much energy through the RS since at least 2007. TDs teams were always competitive and easily plaoyff calibre without TD, while Dirks teams would miss the playoffs if you take DIrk away. Dirk is always gassd reaching the playoffs.
Including PO's, since 2007, Dirk played like a 1000 minutes more than Duncan. If you play 36 minutes a game, that's about 30 games. 30 games over 9 seasons.

Over their careers, Timmy has played ~3,500 minutes more than Dirk. That's about 100 games worth of minutes.

[masonanddixon]

so much this.

and then he will be gassed and exhausted when playoff begun, while DUncan can cakewalk since 2007 through the RS and save his energy for the playoffs.
it is what it is

Duncan's back up PF is David Freaking West, a dude who could easily put up 18/10 on nearly any team right now. If Dirk ever had the luxury Duncan was blessed with he could focus all day long on defense.

[HOoopCityJones]

Did he drop 38?

[pastis]

:wtf:

Holy delusional Batman.

This article is form last season:

http://basketball.realgm.com/article/237486/Dirks-Defense-Proving-To-Be-An-Ever-Growing-Problem-For-Dallas


I have watched more games just this season than you have in your entire life, wannabe doctor. You're a sad little kid pretending to be a doctor and you basically never watch games. Also, you're the autistic shit who said Hayward is better than Kawhi. :oldlol:


Including PO's, since 2007, Dirk played like a 1000 minutes more than Duncan. If you play 36 minutes a game, that's about 30 games. 30 games over 9 seasons.

that sounds pretty dumb, especially if you consider that Dirk is top 30 all time in defensive WS and DIrk finsihed between 2005-2011 consistently as top big man defender.
In 2003 he was 6th in Defensive Win Shares, 18th in Defensive Rating, 4th in Defensive Rebounds, 7th in Total Rebounds & Rebounds Per Game and 1.0 Blk & 1.4 STL per Game).
In 2005 he was 6th in Defensive Win Shares, 13th in Defensive Rating, 3rd in Defensive Rebounds, 9th in Total Rebounds & Rebounds Per Game, 18th in Blocks (1.5 Blk per Game) and 1.2 STL per Game.
From 2001 and 2010 he was always a top 20/25 player in Defensive Win Shares, Defensive Rating & always one of the top 5 in defensive rebounds & steals by a big man.

[masonanddixon]

that sounds pretty dumb, especially if you consider that Dirk is top 30 all time in defensive WS and DIrk finsihed between 2005-2011 consistently as top big man defender.
In 2003 he was 6th in Defensive Win Shares, 18th in Defensive Rating, 4th in Defensive Rebounds, 7th in Total Rebounds & Rebounds Per Game and 1.0 Blk & 1.4 STL per Game).
In 2005 he was 6th in Defensive Win Shares, 13th in Defensive Rating, 3rd in Defensive Rebounds, 9th in Total Rebounds & Rebounds Per Game, 18th in Blocks (1.5 Blk per Game) and 1.2 STL per Game.
From 2001 and 2010 he was always a top 20/25 player in Defensive Win Shares, Defensive Rating & always one of the top 5 in defensive rebounds & steals by a big man.

Oh shit don't do 'em like that!!!!

[aj1987]

that sounds pretty dumb, especially if you consider that Dirk is top 30 all time in defensive WS and DIrk finsihed between 2005-2011 consistently as top big man defender.
In 2003 he was 6th in Defensive Win Shares, 18th in Defensive Rating, 4th in Defensive Rebounds, 7th in Total Rebounds & Rebounds Per Game and 1.0 Blk & 1.4 STL per Game).
In 2005 he was 6th in Defensive Win Shares, 13th in Defensive Rating, 3rd in Defensive Rebounds, 9th in Total Rebounds & Rebounds Per Game, 18th in Blocks (1.5 Blk per Game) and 1.2 STL per Game.
From 2001 and 2010 he was always a top 20/25 player in Defensive Win Shares, Defensive Rating & always one of the top 5 in defensive rebounds & steals by a big man.
Yeah, because DWS is a good indicator of defense. I almost never use advanced stats when talking about defense (except for the NBA's new player tracking thing). I prefer the eye test.

According to DWS, Dirk wasn't even a top 20 defender in '11. The year they won a ring. The year he won his MVP, he was #11, which is only 0.1 less than Battier's and better than J-Kidd and O'Neal. As I said, dumb stat.

Defensive rebounds and total rebounds? :wtf: I'm talking about defense, dude. Not rebounds.

EDIT: Now the retarded wannabe doctor likes stats. :oldlol:

Deal with it, kid. KAJ, Malone, and Timmy were better at 37 than current Dirk.

[Smoke117]

No.

[references]

the white man loves his dirk

[StephHamann]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tTV10rOQls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coPD8amHKO4

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[StephHamann]

Deal with it, kid. KAJ, Malone, and Timmy were better at 37 than current Dirk.

KAJ Malone and Timmy had stacked teams, Dirk is carrying a group of cut BETA players again. No help at all, he has to play center now :lol

[aj1987]

KAJ Malone and Timmy had stacked teams, Dirk is carrying a group of cut BETA players again. No help at all, he has to play center now :lol
:biggums:

The **** does that have to do with being better players at the same age?

[StephHamann]

:biggums:

The **** does that have to do with being better players at the same age?

Hard to compare a nr.1 option on offense , with a defensive only player like Duncan at that age.

[Old Man River]

best ever when my boy Duncan is right there? Talk about beasting on defense.

[aj1987]

Hard to compare a nr.1 option on offense , with a defensive only player like Duncan at that age.
Duncan averaged only 3 fewer points while averaging +3 rebounds, +1 assist, and +1 block (coupled with great defense). Yeah, no.

Timmy - 15/10/3/2
Dirk - 18/7/2/1

[ralph_i_el]

KAJ - 22/8/3/2 on 63% TS
Malone - 23/8/5/1/1 on 57% TS
TD - 15/10/3/2 and elite defense (won ring averaging 15/10/2/1 in the Finals and 16/10/2/1 in the PO's)


Dirk - 18/7/2/1/1 with turnstile defense

Yeah, but Dirk's offensive impact is much higher than his stats suggest.

Just my 2 cents, you're right though, it's debatable.

37 year old Steve Nash was an All-Star and put up:
12.5/3/10.7 on 62.5% TS

That was a lockout year though

[ralph_i_el]

Duncan averaged only 3 fewer points while averaging +3 rebounds, +1 assist, and +1 block (coupled with great defense). Yeah, no.

Timmy - 15/10/3/2
Dirk - 18/7/2/1

Raw numbers :rolleyes:

Both guys do a lot of stuff that doesn't go on the stat sheet. Dirk, however, probably the best off-ball player in the league. The threat of him getting the ball ****s up defenses so hard. Look at what Monta did playing with Dirk

[aj1987]

Raw numbers :rolleyes:

Both guys do a lot of stuff that doesn't go on the stat sheet. Dirk, however, probably the best off-ball player in the league. The threat of him getting the ball ****s up defenses so hard. Look at what Monta did playing with Dirk
IMO, Timmy is more impactful than Dirk because of his defense.

Monta could always score. It's not like he his a career high in anything either. In fact, he had a more efficient season with the Warriors on a significantly larger volume.

I think you're exaggerating the defensive attention he draws. A significantly past his prime Wade, who is a worse shooter than Dirk, drew more defensive attention during the '14 season.



Also, to the autistic **** who negged me, stop being a scared shit and put your name whenever you neg someone. :oldlol:

[StephHamann]

The 2014 team was pretty good, but with that 2016 trash team right now Dirk is getting doubled on every single play, when the team is not running screens for him to get an open midrange shot.

Woulda coulda shoulda, but i would really like to see age 37 Dirk on a stacked team like the Cavs. Would be really interesting.

[DMAVS41]

Clearly not.

He's had a year that exceeded any reasonable expectation though. He's also been way better defensively this year, but in large part that is due to the role he's playing and the improved team defense in general....in relation to Dirk. The whole team tries to make life easier for him defensively in a way they didn't last year. So Dirk's impact defensively is a bit inflated imo.

It's a shame he's still this good...yet the roster is still this average.

[tmacattack33]

You're a damned moron. Watch the games. He's beasting on defense.


:roll:

[DMAVS41]

IMO, Timmy is more impactful than Dirk because of his defense.

Monta could always score. It's not like he his a career high in anything either. In fact, he had a more efficient season with the Warriors on a significantly larger volume.

I think you're exaggerating the defensive attention he draws. A significantly past his prime Wade, who is a worse shooter than Dirk, drew more defensive attention during the '14 season.



Also, to the autistic **** who negged me, stop being a scared shit and put your name whenever you neg someone. :oldlol:


I'm not getting into the Dirk/Duncan stuff recently because they play such different roles and Duncan is still an elite defender, but it's not only about the attention Dirk draws...it's what he does to defenses.

Literally a handful plus times a game the defense gets so turned around and confused on the Dirk pick and roll that they let our guard walk into a layup or wide open 15 footer rather than leave Dirk 24 feet from the basket.

If anything...Dirk's impact here on his teams is still pretty undervalued.

Once again this Mavs team is back to not being able to do anything without Dirk on the floor.

Plus 2.4 points per 100 with him...-4.4 points per 100 without him.

Here are the last eight years of the Spurs with Duncan off the court; (points per 100)

09...+3.3
10...+2.8
11...+2.4
12...+7.0
13...+2.8
14...+9.9
15...+6.2
16...+11.5

Needless to say the role and help is night and day different...

[feyki]

26-9-5 with %63 TS , Elite Defence and getting fmvp say hi .

[aj1987]

I'm not getting into the Dirk/Duncan stuff recently because they play such different roles and Duncan is still an elite defender, but it's not only about the attention Dirk draws...it's what he does to defenses.

Literally a handful plus times a game the defense gets so turned around and confused on the Dirk pick and roll that they let our guard walk into a layup or wide open 15 footer rather than leave Dirk 24 feet from the basket.

If anything...Dirk's impact here on his teams is still pretty undervalued.

Once again this Mavs team is back to not being able to do anything without Dirk on the floor.

Plus 2.4 points per 100 with him...-4.4 points per 100 without him.

Here are the last eight years of the Spurs with Duncan off the court; (points per 100)

09...+3.3
10...+2.8
11...+2.4
12...+7.0
13...+2.8
14...+9.9
15...+6.2
16...+11.5

Needless to say the role and help is night and day different...
Dude, I'm not saying that Dirk is not an impactful player. Not even close and never said that. I agree with you that Timmy has more help than Dirk. I never argued against that either. All I'm saying is that 37 year old Duncan is better than a 37 year old Dirk.


Another autistic butthurt coward Dirk stan negging without putting up a name. :oldlol:

[DMAVS41]

Dude, I'm not saying that Dirk is not an impactful player. Not even close and never said that. I agree with you that Timmy has more help than Dirk. I never argued against that either. All I'm saying is that 37 year old Duncan is better than a 37 year old Dirk.


Another autistic butthurt coward Dirk stan negging without putting up a name. :oldlol:

I wasn't saying Dirk was better. I was just taking issue with you claiming Dirk doesn't draw that much attention on offense...which I think is simply a demonstrably false statement.

Are we talking about Duncan in 13 or 14? If it's 13...then it's not close. Duncan was a legit top 5 type player in 13 and was amazing. His 13 year is still vastly under-rated imo.

If it's 14...I think it's really close. I'd probably lean towards Duncan because of his elite defense, but it's hard to ignore the different circumstances.

In 14...the Spurs were better on offense and defense without Duncan. They were +9.9 points per 100 without him...and plus 6.6 points per 100 with him.

Now, obviously he wasn't a negative mind you, but I think the strength of his team overstates his impact a little here for you.

Conversely, when Dirk sits now...the offense/team essentially fall apart...they get 6.6 points worse without Dirk.

So...taking Duncan is fine...I probably would I guess, but it's very close either way and it's difficult to account for the vastly different team strengths.

[ralph_i_el]

IMO, Timmy is more impactful than Dirk because of his defense.

Monta could always score. It's not like he his a career high in anything either. In fact, he had a more efficient season with the Warriors on a significantly larger volume.

I think you're exaggerating the defensive attention he draws. A significantly past his prime Wade, who is a worse shooter than Dirk, drew more defensive attention during the '14 season.



Also, to the autistic **** who negged me, stop being a scared shit and put your name whenever you neg someone. :oldlol:

Raw stats do not tell the entire story. Monta led the league in drives to the rim playing with Dirk. He played a much much better team offensive game than he ever had in his career. At least had his best season since the two in GS when he scored a ton of points but they were bad.

Any point guard/ lead guard that plays with Dirk is going to have a really easy time getting shots and running clean offense

[plowking]

He's playing very good defense right now you curry muncher. And on one of weakest rosters in the NBA.

Anyone believe this dude actually accuses others of being racist? :oldlol:

What a POS you are.

Stop pretending to be a doctor on here as well. :oldlol:

[greatest-ever]

Dirk is playing nothing like a "top 6-10 player" that's clearly biased nonsense. He's probably not even top 20. And no he wasn't better than a 37 year old Duncan, Kareem or Mailman just to name a few right off.

[Gotterdammerung]

From Charley Rosen's article on Sunday (http://www.todaysfastbreak.com/nba-west/dallas-mavericks/rosen-how-much-does-dirk-nowitzki-have-left/):
[quote=Charley Rosen]How much does Dirk Nowitzki have left?
Dirk Nowitzki is nearing his 38th birthday while playing in his 18th NBA season. He has unequivocally stated that he will forgo a farewell tour in favor of announcing his retirement after his last season

[bukowski81]

Duncan's back up PF is David Freaking West, a dude who could easily put up 18/10 on nearly any team right now. If Dirk ever had the luxury Duncan was blessed with he could focus all day long on defense.

He has never put those numbers his entire career, how can he easily do it at 35???

[aj1987]

Raw stats do not tell the entire story. Monta led the league in drives to the rim playing with Dirk. He played a much much better team offensive game than he ever had in his career. At least had his best season since the two in GS when he scored a ton of points but they were bad.

Any point guard/ lead guard that plays with Dirk is going to have a really easy time getting shots and running clean offense
Literally a 6% difference from his GS days. 1.2 shots a game. Yeah, you're wrong, dude.

EDIT: Another Autistic coward *** negged me without the name. :oldlol:

[DirkNowitzki41]

Sad that Dirk is easily our best player at 37

Cuban :applause:

[ralph_i_el]

Literally a 6% difference from his GS days. 1.2 shots a game. Yeah, you're wrong, dude.

EDIT: Another Autistic coward *** negged me without the name. :oldlol:

I want you to know that I'm not the one negging you. Maybe Masondickhead has alts?

Monta's early numbers were inflated because he played for Don Nelson. Don Nelson has an even larger effect on quick guard's stats than D'Antoni

He got to the rim significantly more than he had in the previous 4 seasons as soon as he played with Dirk. This is because he was leading the league in drives to the rim (which doesn't include fastbreaks). He was breaking teams down in the halfcourt, whereas early career Monta put up good stats playing a bad brand of basketball for a coach who gave his guys the greenlight to leak-out and have guards seek early shots.

[Old Man River]

Sad that Dirk is easily our best player at 37

Cuban :applause:
how did cuban get rich when every mavs move he makes is wrong

[DirkNowitzki41]

Dirk is playing nothing like a "top 6-10 player" that's clearly biased nonsense. He's probably not even top 20. And no he wasn't better than a 37 year old Duncan, Kareem or Mailman just to name a few right off.
:facepalm

[Euroleague]

https://media2.giphy.com/media/Z0rcMUDEsHcDS/200.gif

[aj1987]

I want you to know that I'm not the one negging you. Maybe Masondickhead has alts?
I know for a fact that you're not the one, bro. :cheers:


Monta's early numbers were inflated because he played for Don Nelson. Don Nelson has an even larger effect on quick guard's stats than D'Antoni
Ellis pretty much averaged the same with the Bucks. :confusedshrug:


He got to the rim significantly more than he had in the previous 4 seasons as soon as he played with Dirk. This is because he was leading the league in drives to the rim (which doesn't include fastbreaks). He was breaking teams down in the halfcourt, whereas early career Monta put up good stats playing a bad brand of basketball for a coach who gave his guys the greenlight to leak-out and have guards seek early shots.
As I said, a 6% increase in his first season with the Mavs. Not a massive increase. Negligible, TBH.

[rmt]

Easily, I don't think so.

Is Dirk gonna get All-NBA 1st team, All-Defensive 2nd team and All-Star honors this year? 'Cos that's what Duncan got at 37.

[pastis]

Easily, I don't think so.

Is Dirk gonna get All-NBA 1st team, All-Defensive 2nd team and All-Star honors this year? 'Cos that's what Duncan got at 37.

Maybe, just maybe it has a liiiiittle little bit to do with the fact, that duncan is sourrunded with top players?

Dirk Nowitzkis impact THIS SEASON as nearly 38 yearos old: Plus 2.4 points per 100 with him...-4.4 points per 100 without him.
Here are the last eight years of the Spurs with Duncan off the court; (points per 100)
09...+3.3
10...+2.8
11...+2.4
12...+7.0
13...+2.8
14...+9.9
15...+6.2
16...+11.5

[IllegalD]

Even if this were true it's not like it's gonna boost Dirk's legacy or erase the majority of his career/playoff chokejobs that make up the greater part of his basketball story.

[pastis]

Dirk Nowitzki on his pace for his 17th season w/17+ PPG and a 55+TS%. Only Kareem had more

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdnXhtuWEAIPW5G.jpg

[IllegalD]

It's come to my attention that this thread was started by a white-supremacist racist, thus invalidating any argument in Dirk's favor.

Dude's favorite player is Dirk. His favorite movie is probably American History X (except he turns it off before the ending)

Lock thread, mods. :facepalm

[pastis]

It's come to my attention that this thread was started by a white-supremacist racist, thus invalidating any argument in Dirk's favor.

Dude's favorite player is Dirk. His favorite movie is probably American History X (except he turns it off before the ending)

Lock thread, mods. :facepalm


to accuse someone being a white-supremacist racist, without having any proofs, is called a libel

[IllegalD]

are you black?
to accuse someone being a white-supremacist racist, without having any proofs, is called a libel

Puertorican :cheers:

Let's start with his username and go from there...

And what are you, his f*cking lawyer? :roll:

[masonanddixon]

Puertorican :cheers:

Let's start with his username and go from there...

And what are you, his f*cking lawyer? :roll:

You're an idiot. Learn who Charles Mason and Jeremiah Dixon were, idiot.

[masonanddixon]

It's come to my attention that this thread was started by a white-supremacist racist, thus invalidating any argument in Dirk's favor.

Dude's favorite player is Dirk. His favorite movie is probably American History X (except he turns it off before the ending)

Lock thread, mods. :facepalm

You're a true piece of shit. You have no business on this board, you racist.

[sportjames23]

KAJ - 22/8/3/2 on 63% TS
Malone - 23/8/5/1/1 on 57% TS
TD - 15/10/3/2 and elite defense (won ring averaging 15/10/2/1 in the Finals and 16/10/2/1 in the PO's)


Dirk - 18/7/2/1/1 with turnstile defense



:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:




He's playing very good defense right now you curry muncher. And on one of weakest rosters in the NBA.


:lol :lol :lol




Then you have the gull to wonder why people hate on Dirk... :facepalm


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[sportjames23]

I accept nothing from someone who should be serving me slurpees.

The problem with idiots like you is you know nothing about the game. Watch the games and you'll see that Dirk is excellent at cutting off angles and forcing his man into tough shots.


LOL I forgot you two had that whole India vs Australia thing going on. :lol

[aj1987]

LOL I forgot you two had that whole India vs Australia thing going on. :lol
I do? I don't think I've ever said anything against Australia or Australians in general.

[IllegalD]

You're an idiot. Learn who Charles Mason and Jeremiah Dixon were, idiot.

http://www.ilikeweirdstuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/charles-manson.gif

[Spurs5Rings2014]

It's Manson, you retard.

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[IllegalD]

It's Manson, you retard.

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Look at this Riverwalk inbred trying to "correct" me yet you can't even spell "Mason" right. :facepalm

Yes, you're right. That is Charles MANSON in the gif I posted. :lol

Go stuff your face with some churros and bang some supersized 300+ San Antonio behemoth you f*cking redneck.

[tontoz]

Age doesn't affect Dirk's height or jumper and those were always his two biggest assets. His defense was never bad really, more like average. His length is a big asset on D but his lack of mobility obviously hurts.

He has aged very well but saying he is the best 37 yr old ever is just nonsense. KAJ and Karl Malone are both easy picks over Dirk.

[bizil]

Age doesn't affect Dirk's height or jumper and those were always his two biggest assets. His defense was never bad really, more like average. His length is a big asset on D but his lack of mobility obviously hurts.

He has aged very well but saying he is the best 37 yr old ever is just nonsense. KAJ and Karl Malone are both easy picks over Dirk.

Good points! I would take MJ in his Wizards days over Dirk as well. The league was STILL DEEP during those days, and MJ was putting up All Star caliber numbers. I think a SLEEPER at 37 years of age was Nique on the Spurs. He averaged 18.2 points and STILL doing vintage Nique type shit. Stockton, Nash, and Timmy were still All Star caliber players at 37 years of age as well.

[LAZERUSS]

Chamberlain was two months away from his 37th birthday when he "retired."

In his last season, at age 36, he led the league in rpg; was voted first-team all-defense; finished 4th in the MVP voting; set a FG% mark of .727 (which is still the all-time record); played 43 mpg; led his team to a 60-22 record, and a trip to the Finals; played 47 mpg in his 17 post-season games; and averaged 22.5 rpg in those 17 games...which blows away the next best post-season mark of 18.3 rpg since.

Oh, and here was none other than Larry Brown commenting on Wilt's play in a summer league game, and in which he was in his mid 40's at the time...

http://articles.latimes.com/1999/oct/13/sports/sp-21887


Of all his memories of Wilt Chamberlain, the one that stood out for Larry Brown happened long after Chamberlain's professional career had ended.

On a summer day in the early 1980s, when Brown was coaching at UCLA, Chamberlain showed up at Pauley Pavilion to take part in one of the high-octane pickup games that the arena attracted.

"Magic Johnson used to run the games," Brown recalled Tuesday after hearing that Chamberlain, his friend, had died at 63, "and he called a couple of chintzy fouls and a goaltending on Wilt.

"So Wilt said: 'There will be no more layups in this gym,' and he blocked every shot after that. That's the truth, I saw it. He didn't let one [of Johnson's] shots get to the rim."

Chamberlain would have been in his mid-40s at the time, and he remained in top physical shape until recently.

BTW, NBA teams were extending Wilt legitimate offers to return...even up to age 49.

I don't think there is any doubt that a 37 year old Wilt would have been a greater player than a 37 year old Dirk.

[Stringer Bell]

Kareem was the first to come to mind.