View Full Version : Greatest performance against The Spurs ever?
HOoopCityJones
03-15-2016, 05:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qawbo3NOmR4
45 Pts, 10 Rebs, 3sst, 3 stls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QWdsVQN_BE
36-9-8
Yay or Nay?
Uncle Drew
03-15-2016, 05:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXxt8hJbelo
aj1987
03-15-2016, 05:21 AM
37-12-4-2 on 70% TS in a game 7 of the Finals with a series clinching clutch AF shot and clutch FT's to put the game away. 9-4-2 in the the 4th Q on 65% TS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6szZ4hbumT0
HOoopCityJones
03-15-2016, 05:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXxt8hJbelo
I stand corrected. Totally forgot about this game. :applause:
HOoopCityJones
03-15-2016, 05:24 AM
37-12-4-2 on 70% TS in a game 7 of the Finals with a series clinching clutch AF shot and clutch FT's to put the game away. 9-4-2 in the the 4th Q on 65% TS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6szZ4hbumT0
Game 1 of the WCF shits on this game.
masonanddixon
03-15-2016, 05:26 AM
Dirk creampieing PRIME DUNCAN (and not 80 year old Duncan) in 05-06.
aj1987
03-15-2016, 05:27 AM
Game 1 of the WCF shits on this game.
Yeah, because game 1's of the WCF > an extremely close game 7 of the Finals. :roll:
fourkicks44
03-15-2016, 05:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW4uXlRGAF0
Spurs m8
03-15-2016, 05:31 AM
Rent free
WayOfWade
03-15-2016, 05:31 AM
Game 1 of the WCF shits on this game.
Holy crap dude, you mean to tell me a non finals game 1 is greater than a finals game 7? I'm pretty sure you don't like LeBron, but at least be rational in at least considering this. You cannot tell me the Spurs were playing harder in that game 1 than they were in that game 7, it is both illogical and false. Did kobe put up more points? Yeah he did. Does that automatically make it a better performance? Absolutely not. You need to take context into consideration
WayOfWade
03-15-2016, 05:35 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW4uXlRGAF0
Oh my goodness, that is probably up there and might even be #1. Just how demoralizing would be having a player on your team win the MVP, and then get absolutely wrecked by his counterpart the very same game? Not only that, but the Spurs were the 1 seed and poised to make a title run, only to get snubbed by an all-time great center. Great post :applause:
pastis
03-15-2016, 05:40 AM
Dirk Nowitzki WCF 2003 against Spurs
game 1: 38 points/15 rebounds on 52%
Dirk Nowitzki WCSF 2006 against spurs:
game 7: 37 points/15 rebounds on 55%
Dirk Nowitzki first round 2010 against Spurs:
game1: 36 points/ rebounds on 85% (12-14)
Dirk Nowitzki first round 2010 against Spurs:
game3: 35 points/7rebounds/4 ass on 56%
Dirk Nowitzki first round 2010 against Spurs:
game 6: 33 points/6rebounds/4ass on 62%
IllegalD
03-15-2016, 05:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qawbo3NOmR4
45 Pts, 10 Rebs, 3sst, 3 stls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QWdsVQN_BE
36-9-8
Yay or Nay?
Kobe's easily.
Duncan was in his prime (unlike when LeBron won against him in the Finals). And the 2000s-era Spurs are one of the GOAT defensive teams of all time with the Twin Towards patrolling the paint.
And it wasn't just that one game, it was the ENTIRE series:
33 PPG, 7 AST, 7 REB on 51% FG with 2 steals and elite defense
45 is an opponent playoff high vs the Spurs, btw.
Check out his shot chart for the game:
http://i64.tinypic.com/1zmzbz8.jpg
:eek:
At the end of that game Jim Grey interviewed Dr. Jerry Buss, and this is what he had to say:
"I just spoke to Dr. Jerry Buss, who owns the Lakers, and he's owned the ball-club for an awful long time now. And he just told me that he can't recall any Laker, maybe with the exception of Magic Johnson, over the course of the last month, playing at the level that Kobe Bryant is playing at. He says it's just stupefying to him and astonishing that this guy has done so well. And maybe other than Magic he can't recall another Laker, including all of the great Lakers (Worthy, Jabbar, Cooper, Nixon), playing the way Kobe Bryant is playing."
https://youtu.be/PCdhA41wgms?t=483
Also, Kobe was a baby at just 22... Not a grown ass man like LeBron was in 2014.
fourkicks44
03-15-2016, 05:41 AM
Oh my goodness, that is probably up there and might even be #1. Just how demoralizing would be having a player on your team win the MVP, and then get absolutely wrecked by his counterpart the very same game? Not only that, but the Spurs were the 1 seed and poised to make a title run, only to get snubbed by an all-time great center. Great post :applause:
One of the best performances in any playoff series in NBA history.
bigkingsfan
03-15-2016, 05:43 AM
Lebron game 7, Bosh 0 points, nuff said.
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
03-15-2016, 06:04 AM
Dirk Nowitzki WCF 2003 against Spurs
game 1: 38 points/15 rebounds on 52%
Dirk Nowitzki WCSF 2006 against spurs:
game 7: 37 points/15 rebounds on 55%
Dirk Nowitzki first round 2010 against Spurs:
game1: 36 points/ rebounds on 85% (12-14)
Dirk Nowitzki first round 2010 against Spurs:
game3: 35 points/7rebounds/4 ass on 56%
Dirk Nowitzki first round 2010 against Spurs:
game 6: 33 points/6rebounds/4ass on 62%
how about 42/18/6/2 58FG% against Duncan/Robinson in 01 :applause: :applause:
BlakFrankWhite
03-15-2016, 06:33 AM
Westbrook 40/10/5/5 on 12-23 FG
Game 4 WCF
Magic 32
03-15-2016, 07:32 AM
Game 4 in 2004 was better.
Playing against peak Bowen. Was squinting the whole game after a long day in Colorado. The difficulty and varity of the shots. Amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0PmB22MFKw
Naero
03-15-2016, 07:46 AM
Holy crap dude, you mean to tell me a non finals game 1 is greater than a finals game 7? I'm pretty sure you don't like LeBron, but at least be rational in at least considering this. You cannot tell me the Spurs were playing harder in that game 1 than they were in that game 7, it is both illogical and false. Did kobe put up more points? Yeah he did. Does that automatically make it a better performance? Absolutely not. You need to take context into consideration
The pressure of a close-fought Game 7 may be a factor to the overall impressiveness, but so is the defense; in that regard, the Spurs' defense on him that game doesn't exactly typify the Game 7 pressure that's being emphasized here. After curbing LeBron into mediocrity (scoring-wise) with the sag-off defense, they obstinately continued to do so in Game 7—to the point where they even gave LeBron the latitude to dribble into rhythm for his jumpshots.
His Game 7 output may be among the more memorable ones from a more historic perspective; but that's chalked up more so to circumstantial factors than any actual transcendence when you examine it more in-depth. It was a great overall performance, but it's not the first one I'd challenge other ATGs to replicate with my bank on the line.
IllegalD
03-15-2016, 07:49 AM
Game 4 in 2004 was better.
Playing against peak Bowen. Was squinting the whole game after a long day in Colorado. The difficulty and varity of the shots. Amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0PmB22MFKw
Good call. :applause:
That's what these kids don't get. It's not just one game like the rest of these players. Kobe made an entire career out of herbing out the Dynasty Spurs when Duncan was at his peak. Especially in the playoffs, where it counts the most (2001, 2002, 2004, 2008).
Im Still Ballin
03-15-2016, 08:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiogiHgt_eQ
Enough said.
aj1987
03-15-2016, 08:16 AM
[QUOTE=Naero]The pressure of a close-fought Game 7 may be a factor to the overall impressiveness, but so is the defense; in that regard, the Spurs' defense on him that game doesn't exactly typify the Game 7 pressure that's being emphasized here. After curbing LeBron into mediocrity (scoring-wise) with the sag-off defense, they obstinately continued to do so in Game 7
ArbitraryWater
03-15-2016, 08:41 AM
Dirk's 2006 G7 >>>
feyki
03-15-2016, 10:36 AM
Game 7 of 2006 playoffs .
plowking
03-15-2016, 10:40 AM
Lebron James game 7 is a runaway here.
Easy choice too. 37 points, unbelievable shooting, and essentially the game sealer/winner at the end of the game.
DMAVS41
03-15-2016, 10:42 AM
Lebron James game 7 is a runaway here.
Easy choice too. 37 points, unbelievable shooting, and essentially the game sealer/winner at the end of the game.
Dirk did all that same stuff against a better Spurs team and on the road.
It's between those two games if we are factoring in how big the games were. Both were game 7's.
IllegalD
03-15-2016, 10:46 AM
Dirk did all that same stuff against a better Spurs team and on the road.
It's between those two games if we are factoring in how big the games were. Both were game 7's.
Except Dirk didn't win the chip that year, so...
plowking
03-15-2016, 10:50 AM
Dirk did all that same stuff against a better Spurs team and on the road.
It's between those two games if we are factoring in how big the games were. Both were game 7's.
37/12/4 with elite defense and great shooting.
26 seconds left, 20 foot jumpshot puts the Heat up by 4 and out of reach.
Very next play responsible for the defensive stop, and then puts in 2 free throws to put them up 6.
Clutch, and great all around performance.
DMAVS41
03-15-2016, 10:59 AM
37/12/4 with elite defense and great shooting.
26 seconds left, 20 foot jumpshot puts the Heat up by 4 and out of reach.
Very next play responsible for the defensive stop, and then puts in 2 free throws to put them up 6.
Clutch, and great all around performance.
37/15/3 with amazing shooting....68.4% TS....game saving 3 point play to force overtime.
Battled Duncan on the glass all night with a great performance. Went hard and drew fouls and made the shots all night.
Clutch, and great all around performance.
Please don't speak to me about Lebron's game 7 like I didn't watch it and don't know all about it. It was an amazing performance and a great game.
Dirk...just happens to have a game of similar caliber against a better Spurs team on the road.
Which one is better...no idea, but it's certainly not one sided like you claim.
dynasty1978
03-15-2016, 11:20 AM
Good call. :applause:
That's what these kids don't get. It's not just one game like the rest of these players. Kobe made an entire career out of herbing out the Dynasty Spurs when Duncan was at his peak. Especially in the playoffs, where it counts the most (2001, 2002, 2004, 2008).
As good as he was in 2001, Kobe in 2008 was God-like against the Spurs.
29.2 ppg on 53% shooting and averaging only 2 FTA per game that series, despite Bowen's hand-checking, hacking, etc.,
Yeah, I'll take that given that the Spurs were younger and playing their usual brand of D.
Psileas
03-15-2016, 11:31 AM
Guys, you do know who Hakeem was and that that '95 team was also the Spurs, right? :rolleyes:
http://youtu.be/hGXpu8uOgcI
IllegalD
03-15-2016, 11:39 AM
As good as he was in 2001, Kobe in 2008 was God-like against the Spurs.
29.2 ppg on 53% shooting and averaging only 2 FTA per game that series, despite Bowen's hand-checking, hacking, etc.,
Yeah, I'll take that given that the Spurs were younger and playing their usual brand of D.
Yes. Bill Simmons (the biggest Kobe hater on the planet) said of that 2008 series that it was the closest he'd seen Kobe play like Jordan (as far as striking the perfect balance of when to facilitate, and when to take over)
I also think his 2002 series vs the Spurs is extremely underrated.
26, 5, and 5 on 46% FG, being super clutch in the 4th quarters.
The Spurs actually lead every game of that series going into the 4th quarter, yet only won one game. Kobe's clutch play was the main reason for that.
Especially Games 3 and 4:
https://youtu.be/Q8HgzXLQCTM
https://youtu.be/VWPWvJ2wr44
:bowdown:
Ranked 12th
03-15-2016, 11:43 AM
Yes. Bill Simmons (the biggest Kobe hater on the planet) said of that 2008 series that it was the closest he'd seen Kobe play like Jordan (as far as striking the perfect balance of when to facilitate, and when to take over)
I also think his 2002 series vs the Spurs is extremely underrated.
26, 5, and 5 on 46% FG, being super clutch in the 4th quarters.
The Spurs actually lead every game of that series going into the 4th quarter, yet only won one game. Kobe's clutch play was the main reason for that.
Especially Games 3 and 4:
https://youtu.be/Q8HgzXLQCTM
https://youtu.be/VWPWvJ2wr44
:bowdown:
Meltdown :roll:
Odinn
03-15-2016, 11:48 AM
Guys, you do know who Hakeem was and that that '95 team was also the Spurs, right? :rolleyes:
Yeah. That was I thought when I saw reactions. No contest TBH.
IllegalD
03-15-2016, 11:48 AM
Meltdown :roll:
Are you posting this from inside a highschool locker or your mom's basement?
:yaohappy:
InsanityKills
03-15-2016, 12:55 PM
Yes. Bill Simmons (the biggest Kobe hater on the planet) said of that 2008 series that it was the closest he'd seen Kobe play like Jordan (as far as striking the perfect balance of when to facilitate, and when to take over)
I also think his 2002 series vs the Spurs is extremely underrated.
26, 5, and 5 on 46% FG, being super clutch in the 4th quarters.
The Spurs actually lead every game of that series going into the 4th quarter, yet only won one game. Kobe's clutch play was the main reason for that.
Especially Games 3 and 4:
https://youtu.be/Q8HgzXLQCTM
https://youtu.be/VWPWvJ2wr44
:bowdown:
Melt. Down.
I LOVE IT!!
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Kblaze8855
03-15-2016, 01:12 PM
You really cant compare any of these games to Lebron winning the title in game 7 with an epic performance. Its like ranking Jordans shot to beat the Cavs over the shot to win the ring vs the Jazz. We can talk all day about the shots....
One won the NBA title.
The other beat the Cavs.
Magic 32
03-15-2016, 01:43 PM
Well, this thread turning into a "Lebron is better" or "Dirk is underrated" circle jerk was predictable.
But everyone knows who was the most consistent performer against the Duncan/Popovich era Spurs...
2001 WCF - 33.3 ppg, 7.0 apg, 7.0 rpg, 1.5 spg, 51.4 FG%
2002 WCSF - 26.2 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 4.8 rpg, 1.0 spg, 45.5 FG%
2003 WCSF - 32.3 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 3.7 apg, 1.0 spg, 43.4 FG%
2004 WCSF - 26.3 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 5.8 apg, 1.7 spg, 46.2 FG%
2008 WCF - 29.2 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 3.8 apg, 1.6 spg, 53.3 FG%
4-2 record
http://s2.postimg.org/q51y04scp/ijg.png
SCdac
03-15-2016, 02:05 PM
Hard not to go with Hakeem dismantling the Spurs with MVP Robinson in dominant fashion. Stamped into any san Antonians memory whos over 30. It was deflating for a team and city with then no championships to speak of. Shaq and Kobe against SA in the early 2000s. Idk. I've seen so many stars go off on the spurs its crazy. From Dirk to Lebron to Allen and Nash. Even Amare had an individually "great" series against SA, averaging 35+ ppg in the best series of his life probably.. It kinda comes with perennial playoff appearances for 30 years give or take a few years, players going off
Fire Colangelo
03-15-2016, 02:17 PM
Hard not to go with Hakeem dismantling the Spurs with MVP Robinson in dominant fashion. Stamped into any san Antonians memory whos over 30. It was deflating for a team and city with then no championships to speak of. Shaq and Kobe against SA in the early 2000s. Idk. I've seen so many stars go off on the spurs its crazy. From Dirk to Lebron to Allen and Nash. Even Amare had an individually "great" series against SA, averaging 35+ ppg in the best series of his life probably.. It kinda comes with perennial playoff appearances for 30 years give or take a few years, players going off
Like you said yourself, that's the price that comes with being a perennial playoff team/contender for the past 30 years :oldlol: .
Everyone from Kobe to Lebron to Dirk to Amare are going to bring their A+ game against the Spurs, both in the regular season and the playoffs. More of a compliment than anything I guess.
From Tmac's 13 in 35 seconds to Fisher's 0.4...... It's just because Spurs were the team to beat and mentally it brings out the best of everyone.
34-24 Footwork
03-15-2016, 02:33 PM
You think if they were doubling LeBron, he wouldn't hit Battier for WIDE open 3's (Battier was 6/8 from 3 that game)? Pass it to Wade, who also was hitting his jumpshots that game (the guys hit like 7 midrange shots that game)? You think he wouldn't blow past Kawhi for easy layups in the paint, if he was in LeBron's face all night? This game was like game 6 of the '12 ECF. LeBron just said **** it and went all out. No matter how much you guys try to diminish it, it still is one of the greatest Finals game ever and probably the GOAT Finals G7.
Pop's strategy worked for a while, but it wasn't always going to work.
Lol. The amount of delusion in this post is CLASSIC.
Facts are facts. They sagged off Lebron the entire series. They forced him to make jumpers. He came up lucky at the end of the series.
DMAVS41
03-15-2016, 03:02 PM
You really cant compare any of these games to Lebron winning the title in game 7 with an epic performance. Its like ranking Jordans shot to beat the Cavs over the shot to win the ring vs the Jazz. We can talk all day about the shots....
One won the NBA title.
The other beat the Cavs.
Yea...the criteria needs to be defined...because if it's about how important a single game was...then obviously Lebron is the answer because by definition it was the most important a game could ever be.
SCdac
03-15-2016, 03:07 PM
Like you said yourself, that's the price that comes with being a perennial playoff team/contender for the past 30 years :oldlol: .
Everyone from Kobe to Lebron to Dirk to Amare are going to bring their A+ game against the Spurs, both in the regular season and the playoffs. More of a compliment than anything I guess.
From Tmac's 13 in 35 seconds to Fisher's 0.4...... It's just because Spurs were the team to beat and mentally it brings out the best of everyone.
haha exactly.
As a fan, it's kinda a blessing and a curse.
You know you're more often than not going to see the best product in terms of competitive, "professional" basketball, but it also means some tough losses are gonna happen and players are going to really show up.
In recent years I remember Kyrie Irving and Derrick Rose having huge games against SA in the RS, but in the playoffs it happens for sure. In 2006 for instance, everybody remembers the epic matchup in the semi-wcf, Spurs-Mavs, but not many remember (or talk about) the fight that the Sacramento Kings put up in the first round pushing the series to 6 games.
****ing Bonzi Wells averaged 23 & 12 (earning himself a large contract extension, which he idiotically turned down iirc), Artest had some big games with his physical brand of bball (despite getting suspended 1 game for elbowing Ginobili in the head), and Kevin Martin, who in turn of events is now playing for the Spurs, had an awesome buzzer beater running the court and laying the ball up. Kings didn't win the series but it was a valiant effort against the defending champs.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-E6q-AKs6gk/hqdefault.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdlsL9aytds
Terahite
03-15-2016, 03:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXxt8hJbelo
56 points from Irving and the Cavs still nearly lost :facepalm
sd3035
03-15-2016, 03:43 PM
Obviously Kyrie
ArbitraryWater
03-15-2016, 03:54 PM
Guys, you do know who Hakeem was and that that '95 team was also the Spurs, right? :rolleyes:
nobody is talking about the teams historically, that'd be insane, without it being said, its clear we're talking about the pop/duncan installment.
Dirk has the best, then Bron, Kobe, Shaq.
Legends66NBA7
03-15-2016, 03:58 PM
Guys, you do know who Hakeem was and that that '95 team was also the Spurs, right? :rolleyes:
:oldlol:
Can't believe people are just talking about the Duncan era Spurs. As if a MVP Robinson, the best rebounder, and having the best record in the league means nothing. Hakeem's performance is right there if not the best.
aj1987
03-15-2016, 05:18 PM
Lol. The amount of delusion in this post is CLASSIC.
Facts are facts. They sagged off Lebron the entire series. They forced him to make jumpers. He came up lucky at the end of the series.
You do know that LeBron almost single handedly won the first game, right? 18/18/10. TP's flower gave the Spurs the win. That was the game when they actually had a had in LeBron's face.
I'm talking facts, kid. I know that you stand a known choker and a rapist, but try to be open minded for a minute. LeBron >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kobe.
Heck, current LeBron is averaging 25/7/7 on 58% TS. PRIME Kobe numbers.
feyki
03-15-2016, 05:21 PM
nobody is talking about the teams historically, that'd be insane, without it being said, its clear we're talking about the pop/duncan installment.
Dirk has the best, then Bron, Kobe, Shaq.
With 21 points and %48 TS , right ?
tmacattack33
03-15-2016, 07:16 PM
LOL.
Lebron's Game 7 vs the Spurs is one of the best performances in the history of basketball.
Frenetic
03-15-2016, 07:36 PM
anyone think clips can beat spurs tonight?
SCdac
03-15-2016, 07:57 PM
:oldlol:
Can't believe people are just talking about the Duncan era Spurs. As if a MVP Robinson, the best rebounder, and having the best record in the league means nothing. Hakeem's performance is right there if not the best.
This.
The reason I would consider it the best is also the impact it had on Hakeem's legacy and the conditions in which Rockets won. Everybody thinks of Hakeem owning Robinson when they think of him. He averaged 35+ points a game in the series, including 39 points in the deciding game 6, and eventually beat Shaq & Orlando Magic in the Finals. He outscored Robinson 81-41 in the final two games of the series. In alot of the losses the Spurs received in the TD/Pop era, prime Tim Duncan generally played well (in his first MVP year they lost to the Lakers in 5 games, but worth noting his scoring improved in every game of the series - 26, 27, 28, 30, 34 points - and he beat the Lakers the very next season while putting up historic numbers for a PF).
IllegalD
03-15-2016, 08:01 PM
How is Hakeem's the best?
Duncan is a superior player to Robinson, and the Spurs weren't a multi-championship dynasty until he got there.
Not to mention Popovich wasn't their coach.
Just another overrated regular season MVP getting herbed out by the real MVP (see LeBron herbing out Rose, Jordan herbing out Malone, Kobe herbing out Duncan/Nash, etc.)
Showtime2001
03-15-2016, 08:17 PM
You do know that LeBron almost single handedly won the first game, right? 18/18/10. TP's flower gave the Spurs the win. That was the game when they actually had a had in LeBron's face.
I'm talking facts, kid. I know that you stand a known choker and a rapist, but try to be open minded for a minute. LeBron >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kobe.
Heck, current LeBron is averaging 25/7/7 on 58% TS. PRIME Kobe numbers.
Lol @ this fakkit talking about being open minded.
:oldlol:
Cali Syndicate
03-15-2016, 08:34 PM
:oldlol:
Can't believe people are just talking about the Duncan era Spurs. As if a MVP Robinson, the best rebounder, and having the best record in the league means nothing. Hakeem's performance is right there if not the best.
It's crazy because if you look at the head to head, Robinson always played well against hakeem, can even say he outplayed him.... But only thing people will remember is the way hakeem dismantled robinson. Straight up rewrote an all time great's legacy with one series.
34-24 Footwork
03-15-2016, 09:25 PM
Lol @ this fakkit talking about being open minded.
:oldlol:
Exactly...it's why I didn't respond.
DatAsh
03-15-2016, 09:47 PM
It's Hakeem for me. His defensive impact that series was massive, even bigger than his offensive impact.
plowking
03-15-2016, 09:50 PM
It's crazy because if you look at the head to head, Robinson always played well against hakeem, can even say he outplayed him.... But only thing people will remember is the way hakeem dismantled robinson. Straight up rewrote an all time great's legacy with one series.
Yep.
Robinson mostly got the best of Hakeem.
That is why basketball rankings in general are a crock of shit. Hakeem goes top 12 because he showed up at certain times, outplayed a few folks and won championships when the best player in the league was taking a break.
Fact is, Robinson was as good, if not better than Hakeem for the majority of their careers prior to those championships.
SouBeachTalents
03-15-2016, 10:07 PM
Yep.
Robinson mostly got the best of Hakeem.
That is why basketball rankings in general are a crock of shit. Hakeem goes top 12 because he showed up at certain times, outplayed a few folks and won championships when the best player in the league was taking a break.
Fact is, Robinson was as good, if not better than Hakeem for the majority of their careers prior to those championships.
The postseason is where players truly separate themselves, and while Robinson shrunk several times, Hakeem was very clutch and had monster playoff performances, winning back to back titles in extremely dominating fashion.
Some of Robinson's playoff performances before Duncan & Pop came along
1994
RS: 30/11/5 on 51%
vs Jazz: 20/10/4 on 41%
1995
RS: 28/11/3 on 53%
vs Rockets: 24/11/3 on 45%, annihilated by Hakeem
1996
RS: 25/12/3 on 52%
vs Jazz: 19/9/2 on 48%
1998
RS: 22/11/3 on 51%
vs Jazz: 19/13/2 on 40%
Those are significant declines in play
DatAsh
03-15-2016, 10:10 PM
Yep.
Robinson mostly got the best of Hakeem.
That is why basketball rankings in general are a crock of shit. Hakeem goes top 12 because he showed up at certain times, outplayed a few folks and won championships when the best player in the league was taking a break.
Fact is, Robinson was as good, if not better than Hakeem for the majority of their careers prior to those championships.
There are legitimate reasons for ranking Hakeem over Robinson, reasons that have nothing to do with championships.
PejaNowitzki
03-16-2016, 12:28 AM
Dragic going off in that 4th quarter in the playoffs, that shit was epic, not sure about the greatest but it was great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLWjQ7nZTkI
Duffy Pratt
03-16-2016, 03:31 AM
Game 6 of the 95 series, Hakeem had 39 points, 17 rebounds, 5 blocks, 3 assists, 2 steals. He did it on 64% shooting. Robinson was MVP that year, and the Spurs were heavy favorites. The closeout game by Hakeem was simply an exclamation point on his total domination throughout the series.
Kinda silly to think there was a better performance against the Spurs. Except of course on ISH, where basketball was invented 15 years ago.
Here are some highlights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xbxyGX-Htw
Psileas
03-16-2016, 05:24 AM
nobody is talking about the teams historically, that'd be insane, without it being said, its clear we're talking about the pop/duncan installment.
Dirk has the best, then Bron, Kobe, Shaq.
Then it's clear all of you are out of topic. Because the title is as clear as day: Ever. Aka, all-time. Not even "Duncan's Spurs, ever".
aj1987
03-16-2016, 08:01 AM
Lol @ this fakkit talking about being open minded.
:oldlol:
Does your retarded ever talk about anything basketball or are you just too busy slurping your fellow Chokebe tards?
MiseryCityTexas
03-16-2016, 08:33 AM
T-Mac regular season game doesn't even get an honorable mention in here?
Im Still Ballin
03-16-2016, 08:51 AM
Lebron.
Game 7.
Duffy Pratt
03-16-2016, 02:04 PM
Then it's clear all of you are out of topic. Because the title is as clear as day: Ever. Aka, all-time. Not even "Duncan's Spurs, ever".
On ISH, all time means the last fifteen years. Duncan's and Kobe's rookie seasons are pre-history. MJ, Bird and Magic are legends in the true sense of the word: it is doubtful whether they ever even existed. All those videos were just created by NASA, as part of their elaborate plot to make people believe that man landed on the moon.
Get with the program.
Showtime2001
03-16-2016, 02:11 PM
Does your retarded ever talk about anything basketball or are you just too busy slurping your fellow Chokebe tards?
Coming from the fakkit slurping LeTurd in every Kobe thread.
Zach LaVine
03-16-2016, 02:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QWdsVQN_BE
36-9-8
Kobe wasn't even the best Laker that game. Shaq was.
HOoopCityJones
03-16-2016, 03:02 PM
Kobe wasn't even the best Laker that game. Shaq was.
Because he had more reb? :confusedshrug:
Rooster
03-16-2016, 03:26 PM
Because he had more reb? :confusedshrug:
It was clear the guy never watch their playoff series. Shaq never look dominant against those Spurs. One of the reason is the ref let those Spurs play illegal defense a lot of times. Lakers have to use Horry to spread the floor.
CAstill
03-16-2016, 05:40 PM
It was clear the guy never watch their playoff series. Shaq never look dominant against those Spurs. One of the reason is the ref let those Spurs play illegal defense a lot of times. Lakers have to use Horry to spread the floor.
Kobe was the main factor in the series.
Cold soul
03-16-2016, 05:48 PM
Hakeem, Dirk, Kobe have all had great playoff series against Spurs in their career.
NZStreetBaller
03-16-2016, 05:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qawbo3NOmR4
45 Pts, 10 Rebs, 3sst, 3 stls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QWdsVQN_BE
36-9-8
Yay or Nay?
Wow so young and against a young duncan
feyki
03-16-2016, 06:01 PM
Hakeem, Dirk, Kobe have all had great playoff series against Spurs in their career.
this .
TheMarkMadsen
03-16-2016, 06:15 PM
Kobe absolutely shredded the Spurs and was the best Lakers against the Spurs during their 3peat, Kobe was always extremely clutch, WAY MORE clutch than Duncan or Shaq during these series
4th quarter stats 01 Lakers vs Spurs:
Kobe = 10ppg on 47%
Shaq = 4ppg on 47%
Duncan = 4.5ppg on 38.5%
Best player in the 4th = Kobe by like 10 miles.
4th quarter stats 2002 Lakers vs Spurs WCSF
This series was extremely close, 3/4 games were decided by 6 points or less.
Kobe = 9ppg on 60%
Shaq = 5ppg on 33%
Duncan = 6ppg on 38%
Best player in the 4th = Kobe and not even close. This series was one of Kobe's most clutch, b2b 4th quarters with 10+ points on incredible efficiency, game winner, etc
4th quarter stats 2008 WCF Lakers vs Spurs
Kobe = 10ppg on 54%
Duncan = 6ppg on 39%
Best player in the 4th = Kobe, again as usual. Duncan was terrible in the 4th as he always was against the Lakers (didn't shoot over 40% in the 4th quarters against the Lakers ever in the 2000's, 38% in 01, 38% in 02, 30% in 03, 39% in 08) Kobe was an absolute killer in the 4th of this series
Kobe is known as the Spurs killer for a reason. He consistently took a shit on them in the 4th of playoff games
aj1987
03-17-2016, 06:26 AM
Coming from the fakkit slurping LeTurd in every Kobe thread.
Coming from the ****** riding Chokebe like he was getting paid for it.
Showtime2001
03-17-2016, 09:05 AM
Coming from the ****** riding Chokebe like he was getting paid for it.
Still taking that LeDick up your ass keep melting down for me.
:applause:
aj1987
03-17-2016, 09:36 AM
Still taking that LeDick up your ass keep melting down for me.
:applause:
I can't hear you with Chokebe in your mouth.
Showtime2001
03-17-2016, 09:47 AM
I can't hear you with Chokebe in your mouth.
I can't hear you with that LeDick in your mouth.
aj1987
03-17-2016, 09:48 AM
I can't hear you with that LeDick in your mouth.
Meltdown.
Showtime2001
03-17-2016, 09:49 AM
Meltdown.
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2817947/billbored.gif
Zach LaVine
03-17-2016, 09:55 AM
Because he had more reb? :confusedshrug:
And shot better, and had the tougher match up.
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