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Dr Seuss
03-16-2016, 03:33 PM
after reading that thread about the american boy sentenced to 15 years of hard labor in north korea, i was curious as to why america doesnt do something similar to this. of course, nothing as crazy as NK is doing, but labor nonetheless. is that unconstitutional or something?

UK2K
03-16-2016, 03:34 PM
Because its much more humane to allow them to sit in their cells watching TV and playing Xbox...

Busting rocks is considered cruel and unusual yet, you can still get sentenced to hard labor in the military.

That's why nobody gives a **** about prison. Go there, learn some new tricks, make connections, take a vacation, get out, and then go back to doing what you were doing.

ROCSteady
03-16-2016, 03:36 PM
Because we have illegals for that

NZStreetBaller
03-16-2016, 03:38 PM
North korea doesnt have prisons they have concentration camps. Its literally the closest thing to hell since the jewish camps.

I honestly think that anyone who commits murder rape or anything inhumane should be treated inhumane. Why go soft on these people. The concentration camps would save money reduce crime and help with over population.

UK2K
03-16-2016, 03:40 PM
Wanna know a jail nobody wants to go to..

[QUOTE]rpaio set up a "Tent City" in 1993 as an extension of the Maricopa County Jail for convicted and sentenced prisoners.[43][44] Arpaio has described Tent City as a concentration camp.[45][46] Tent City is located in a yard next to a more permanent structure containing toilets, showers, and an area for meals.[47]

On July 2, 2011, when the temperature in Phoenix hit 118

highwhey
03-16-2016, 03:55 PM
Wanna know a jail nobody wants to go to..



Instead... hes considered too mean and rather than make people not want to come back, we're moving more towards this kind of sentence...

http://i40.tinypic.com/2hfuah4.jpg
DAAAMNNN KUK, BACK AT IT AGAIN WITH THE MISINFORMATION.

Arpaio is a corrupt public servant that has held office for far too long despite continuing federal investigations into his practices and ambushes.

In case you haven't made yourself aware of the situation at Tent City, Arpaio holds some prisoners that haven't even been convincted of a crime, rather they are awaiting trial.

knickballer
03-16-2016, 04:14 PM
Because its much more humane to allow them to sit in their cells watching TV and playing Xbox...

Busting rocks is considered cruel and unusual yet, you can still get sentenced to hard labor in the military.

That's why nobody gives a **** about prison. Go there, learn some new tricks, make connections, take a vacation, get out, and then go back to doing what you were doing.

And get an@lly raped every day where you're in there....

:coleman:

~primetime~
03-16-2016, 04:51 PM
When I was young trouble maker I was arrested numerous times, I was sentenced to lots and lots and lots of community service (aka LABOR)

On one occasion I spent many weekends cleaning up dog shit in an animal shelter. Feeding dogs, walking dogs, cleaning their cages, etc. Taking care of dogs is hard work, and shitty work, literally.

On another occasion I had to wake up at 4:00AM every morning to clean up a public golf coarse...emptying trash, picking up balls on the range, etc etc.

And then on another occasion I was just picking up litter on the side of the road...

~primetime~
03-16-2016, 04:53 PM
And get an@lly raped every day where you're in there....

:coleman:
yeah STATE prison is absolutely awful...anyone who thinks it's all fun and games is very mistaken.

FEDERAL prison is a bit nicer, not as much rape and all that, but still awful.

NZStreetBaller
03-16-2016, 04:53 PM
When I was young trouble maker I was arrested numerous times, I was sentenced to lots and lots and lots of community service (aka LABOR)

On one occasion I spent many weekends cleaning up dog shit in an animal shelter. Feeding dogs, walking dogs, cleaning their cages, etc. Taking care of dogs is hard work, and shitty work, literally.

On another occasion I had to wake up at 4:00AM every morning to clean up a public golf coarse...emptying trash, picking up balls on the range, etc etc.

And then on another occasion I was just picking up litter on the side of the road...

Yeh they might as well make do baders useful

Nick Young
03-16-2016, 04:56 PM
after reading that thread about the american boy sentenced to 15 years of hard labor in north korea, i was curious as to why america doesnt do something similar to this. of course, nothing as crazy as NK is doing, but labor nonetheless. is that unconstitutional or something?
Many are. It's called community service.

Tarik One
03-16-2016, 05:14 PM
When I was young trouble maker I was arrested numerous times, I was sentenced to lots and lots and lots of community service (aka LABOR)

On one occasion I spent many weekends cleaning up dog shit in an animal shelter. Feeding dogs, walking dogs, cleaning their cages, etc. Taking care of dogs is hard work, and shitty work, literally.

On another occasion I had to wake up at 4:00AM every morning to clean up a public golf coarse...emptying trash, picking up balls on the range, etc etc.

And then on another occasion I was just picking up litter on the side of the road...

"S.W.A.P. duty" up here

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zjJ4bO1aDFo/TeE5kYMkhLI/AAAAAAAACoU/O33qcsthZZ0/s320/DSCF0038.JPG

Back In Shape
03-16-2016, 06:58 PM
My cousin was in prison. Got a lot a time off for fighting fires and cutting fire breaks. In fact 30% of the "fire fighting force" in California is prison labor.


http://www.motherjones.com/files/_inmate-firefighters-630.png

Crown&Coke
03-16-2016, 08:00 PM
They are. Prison Industries

New form of slavery. People are locked up in record numbers to boost their work force.

They just don't broadcast it

longtime lurker
03-16-2016, 08:02 PM
They are. Prison Industries

New form of slavery. People are locked up in record numbers to boost their work force.

They just don't broadcast it

This. People are completely ignorant to the amount of products that are made in prison. OP is completely misinformed, must be a Trump supporter

DukeDelonte13
03-16-2016, 08:59 PM
american prisons and jails are among the worst in not THE WORST in the developed world.

97 bulls
03-16-2016, 09:22 PM
Some items made by prison labor


1.Books for the blind
There are*36 prison Braille-writing programs*in the United States. Through the American Printing House for the Blind, offenders help write K-12 textbooks for blind students. In Missouri, the Center for Braille and Narration Production employs 102 convicts, many whom are certified through the Library of Congress. They transcribe anything, from novels to music.

2.*Lingerie
In the 1990s, Victoria's Secret and J. C. Penney hired subcontractor Third Generation, who, in turn, hired people to stitch their lingerie and leisure wear — 35 South Carolina inmates,*Mother Jones*reports.

3. Park benches and picnic tables
In Florida, PRIDE (Prison Rehabilitative Industries and Diversified Enterprises) trains about 4000 inmates, who produce and provide over*3000 products and services. PRIDE's forestry service makes park furniture like picnic tables, park benches, and wooden trashcan holders. Sixty-nine percent of PRIDE graduates land jobs after jail.

4. Military jackets and battle garb
Federal Prison Industries, better known as*UNICOR, consists entirely of convicts working at 89 factories. Together, they help clothe the United States military, making jackets, uniforms, helmets, shoes, and even flak vests. For police officers, they craft body armor and holsters.

5. Human silhouette targets
Ironically, convicts at UNICOR also make*human silhouette targets*for law enforcer training. The shadowy targets help crime fighters in the FBI, Homeland Security, and U.S. Customs hone their aims.

6. Old Ikea products
From the 1970s to 1980s, political prisoners in Cold War-struck East Germany made products for the furniture company IKEA. The prisoners were reportedly paid 40 East German marks per month, about 4 percent of the monthly salary of the average East German worker.

7. Baseball caps
Few things are as American as the baseball cap and free enterprise. Well, ball caps happen to be one of the few items UNICOR is allowed to sell to private customers and companies. (In an effort to keep private goods and prison-made goods from competing, UNICOR is generally forbidden from selling products to anyone outside the government.)

8. Canoes
Colorado Correction Industriesoversees approximately 60 inmate work programs. Jailbirds at Fremont County Jail, for example, build fiberglass-sealed canoes. They use scraps from the prison's furniture shop and sell the canoes for around $1500. Other Colorado programs help craft those ubiquitous college dormitory desks and bookshelves.

9. Artsy knick knacks
San Quentin State Prison in California is a scary place. It houses some of the most menacing criminals in the nation, and it's home to the largest death row in the United States. But at least it has agift shop. There, you can buy convict-made music boxes, drawings, and paintings. You can even get yourself a greeting card made by one of death row's own.

10. Blue jeans
The Eastern Oregon Correctional Institution is home to a 47,000 square foot facility: The Prison Blues Jeans Factory. It makes jeans, jackets, T-shirts, and hats, which you can check out*here.

11. Horses
In Colorado, the*Wild Horses Inmate Program*(WHIP) trains wild mustangs, prepping them for adoption. Since 1986, the program has trained over 5000 mustangs. In Maryland,*Second Chances Farm*takes in retired thoroughbred racehorses. It rescues the out-of-work horses from the slaughterhouse and teaches outgoing inmates animal caretaking skills.

Get out of jail bonus: Coffee beans
When some inmates leave the slammer, they roast coffee beans.*I Have a Bean,owned by Second Chance Coffee Company, is a roasting plant in Illinois that helps ex-convicts restart their lives. The facility roasts six different kinds of coffee bean, from Costa Rica to Ethiopia.

Back In Shape
03-16-2016, 09:29 PM
american prisons and jails are among the worst in not THE WORST in the developed world.

Which is a GOOD thing. Prison shouldn't be a pleasant experience for anyone. You can argue about unfair drug sentencing until you are blue in the face, but that has nothing to do with prison itself. Lawbreakers belong in prison and it should be tough on them. Serial murderers living in 3 room flats like they do in Europe is laughable.

Akrazotile
03-16-2016, 09:53 PM
american prisons and jails are among the worst in not THE WORST in the developed world.


A lot of that's because we have more prisoners to house than most of the developed world combined.


This is why we can't have nice things.

Akrazotile
03-16-2016, 09:54 PM
Which is a GOOD thing. Prison shouldn't be a pleasant experience for anyone. You can argue about unfair drug sentencing until you are blue in the face, but that has nothing to do with prison itself. Lawbreakers belong in prison and it should be tough on them. Serial murderers living in 3 room flats like they do in Europe is laughable.


Also this.

Sarcastic
03-16-2016, 10:15 PM
Just be happy we don't have prisons like Austria

http://cdn.trendhunterstatic.com/thumbs/luxury-prison-a-sweet-prison-for-austrian-criminals.jpeg

http://www.takepart.com/sites/default/files/styles/tp_gallery_slide/public/LeobenAus.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/cigsZW7.jpg

http://www.snopes.com/photos/architecture/graphics/jail03.jpg

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/images/new-prison9.jpg