switch Melo and Durant

[pastis]

okc still in the wider circle of favorites?

What could durant do with the knicks? somehow making the 5th seed ?

[Zach LaVine]

No way Westbrook and Melo get along. Thunder becomes worse, but still easily a playoff team. Knicks become a playoff team, but don't go anywhere special.

[IllegalD]

Melo could barely do sh*t with perennial HOF Iverson, the f*ck is he gonna' do with Westbrick? :lol

In b4 MellowYellow and the rest of the Melo apologists.

[MellowYellow]

Melo could barely do sh*t with perennial HOF Iverson, the f*ck is he gonna' do with Westbrick? :lol

In b4 MellowYellow and the rest of the Melo apologists.
Both teams remain about the same. Westbrook is way better than 31 year old iverson dude gtfo. And melo was 22-23 during that time.

[IllegalD]

Both teams remain about the same. Westbrook is way better than 31 year old iverson dude gtfo. And melo was 22-23 during that time.

Kobe, Magic, Kwahi, etc. were able to win rings in their early 20s... :confusedshrug:

[MellowYellow]

Kobe, Magic, Kwahi, etc. were able to win rings in their early 20s... :confusedshrug:
Wait but who else did they have on their team? Certainly a lot more than a past prime AI with anthony carter at pg.

[navy]

Kobe, Magic, Kwahi, etc. were able to win rings in their early 20s... :confusedshrug:
Prime Shaq and Kareem lol

[Zach LaVine]

Both teams remain about the same. Westbrook is way better than 31 year old iverson dude gtfo. And melo was 22-23 during that time.
Right, but Melo is now the 31 year old and he is not as good as he was. He peaked in 2012-13 and has rapidly gotten worse each year since. Melo is about the same level he was as a rookie right now. You are kidding yourself if you think he is a wash with Durant.

[MellowYellow]

Right, but Melo is now the 31 year old and he is not as good as he was. He peaked in 2012-13 and has rapidly gotten worse each year since. Melo is about the same level he was as a rookie right now. You are kidding yourself if you think he is a wash with Durant.
Actually he is closer to his 11 season where he was injured for much of it. This year he is coming back from injury and finally getting back to where he was putting up 24, 8, 4 on 52/38/90 this month.

[Zach LaVine]

Actually he is closer to his 11 season where he was injured for much of it. This year he is coming back from injury and finally getting back to where he was putting up 24, 8, 4 on 50/39/89 this month.
So 2-3 good weeks puts him on Durant's level and the Thunder would be in the same position? :no:

Durant is doing better than that for the entire season. You find his best 2-3 weeks, and they will be far superior.

[MellowYellow]

So 2-3 good weeks puts him on Durant's level and the Thunder would be in the same position? :no:

Durant is doing better than that for the entire season. You find his best 2-3 weeks, and they will be far superior.
Durant has Westbrook taking pressure off of him AND feeding him easy buckets. Who does Melo have to take pressure off him and get him easy buckets? You really think Durant would put up the same numbers with jose calderon as his pg in the triangle?? :no:

[Zach LaVine]

Durant has Westbrook taking pressure off of him AND feeding him easy buckets. Who does Melo have to take pressure off him and get him easy buckets? You really think Durant would put up the same numbers with jose calderon as his pg in the triangle?? :no:
Yes. Without Westbrook being as ball dominant as he is, Durant would score more. You must be the only person so delusional to believe current Melo is on Durant's level.

[MellowYellow]

Yes. Without Westbrook being as ball dominant as he is, Durant would score more. You must be the only person so delusional to believe current Melo is on Durant's level.
No but I don't think he's far off. And no he wouldn't score more and he would be much less efficient.

[Lebronxrings]

okc becomes an 8th seed, knicks become a top 2-3 seed lose to cavs in ecf.

[MellowYellow]

okc becomes an 8th seed, knicks become a top 2-3 seed lose to cavs in ecf.
No, if melo took billups to wcf he damn sure would take Westbrook there

[Zach LaVine]

No but I don't think he's far off. And no he wouldn't score more and he would be much less efficient.
Maybe less efficient, but he has typically scored more with the ball in his hands more. Mostly due to being able to draw more fouls with the ball in his hands, which actually improves his efficiency because of points without shot attempts. That is the main difference between 32ppg Durant and the current 28ppg Durant.

[MellowYellow]

Maybe less efficient, but he has typically scored more with the ball in his hands more. Mostly due to being able to draw more fouls with the ball in his hands, which actually improves his efficiency because of points without shot attempts. That is the main difference between 32ppg Durant and the current 28ppg Durant.
Knicks don't get calls though so I guess that's out the window

[Zach LaVine]

Knicks don't get calls though so I guess that's out the window
Melo got a decent amount of calls before his decline. Durant would too. You just sound like a sad homer: "Melo doesn't get the same respect as Durant" "Knicks don't get calls"

You couldn't be more blatantly a homer.

[Fire Colangelo]

No but I don't think he's far off. And no he wouldn't score more and he would be much less efficient.

Actually, we've already seen what Durant can do without Westbrook.

26 games from Dec 27/2013 - Feb 13/2014: 35/8/6 on 65% TS with a record of 19-7.


Carmelo Anthony with an elite PG:

23/7/3 on 53% TS - 2009
28/6/3 on 55% TS - 2010

As we can see, Durant scored more on better efficiency without Westbrook than Carmelo EVER did, even with an elite PG feeding him shots.

Actually, lets step back a bit.

Kevin Durant in his 2nd season was more efficient than any version of Melo. This was well before Westbrook became an "elite" PG that takes pressure off of Durant.

[sd3035]

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[dazzer87]

nothing change.....outside of scoring both are useless when their shots are not falling......... but ft35 is a better free throw shooter then melo tho

[ImKobe]

No, if melo took billups to wcf he damn sure would take Westbrook there

Melo isn't as good as he used to be and it's a different league.. OKC is barely 3rd seed with prime KD, Melo is worse on both ends. Westbrook would be the guy averaging 30/8/10 lol...

[Zach LaVine]

No, if melo took billups to wcf he damn sure would take Westbrook there
Given their histories, it is seems more likely that Billups took Melo to the WCF, not the other way around.

[MellowYellow]

Actually, we've already seen what Durant can do without Westbrook.

26 games from Dec 27/2013 - Feb 13/2014: 35/8/6 on 65% TS with a record of 19-7.


Carmelo Anthony with an elite PG:

23/7/3 on 53% TS - 2009
28/6/3 on 55% TS - 2010

As we can see, Durant scored more on better efficiency without Westbrook than Carmelo EVER did, even with an elite PG feeding him shots.

Actually, lets step back a bit.

Kevin Durant in his 2nd season was more efficient than any version of Melo. This was well before Westbrook became an "elite" PG that takes pressure off of Durant.

17.7/3.6/6.4 on 42% shooting that's what u call an elite pg?? Compared to Westbrook who put up better numbers his 3rd season on and this year is putting up 24/8/10 on 46%. :facepalm I don't take what durant did that season seriously, it was just a hot stretch like April Melo put up 33 and 9 on 49/40/84

[Young X]

No, if melo took billups to wcf he damn sure would take Westbrook thereMelo didn't "take" Billups to the WCF. Billups was the one who had the better season. Billups was the one who was an MVP candidate, not Melo.

[MellowYellow]

Melo didn't "take" Billups to the WCF. Billups was the one who had the better season. Billups was the one who was an MVP candidate, not Melo.
Melo had a down season due to injury, but he blew up in the playoffs and outperformed billups. And hit a lot of big shots in the mavs series to get them to wcf.

[Young X]

Melo had a down season due to injury, but he blew up in the playoffs and outperformed billups. And hit a lot of big shots in the mavs series to get them to wcf.Billups had the better regular season which lead to the Nuggets getting the 2nd seed and facing those inferior matchups to even get to the point.

And then he had a brilliant playoff run shooting a 66 TS% destroying the Hornets and Mavs.

You're making it seem like he got carried or something. No, he had the better season.

[ISHGoat]

This retarded Melon stan getting slayed from all angles.

[MellowYellow]

Billups had the better regular season which lead to the Nuggets getting the 2nd seed and facing those inferior matchups to even get to the point.

And then he had a brilliant playoff run shooting a 66 TS% destroying the Hornets and Mavs.

You're making it seem like he got carried or something. No, he had the better season.
He didn't do anything special 17.7/3.6/6.4 on 42% Melo had 22.8/6.8/3.4 on 44% which is comparable and in the playoffs billups avg 21/4/7 on 46% and melo avg 27/6/4 on 45% which I would say is a little better than billups. Nuggets went 6-4 during that stretch without Melo so obviously they needed him.

[Young X]

He didn't do anything special 17.7/3.6/6.4 on 42% Melo had 22.8/6.8/3.4 on 44% which is comparable and in the playoffs billups avg 21/4/7 on 46% and melo avg 27/6/4 on 45% which I would say is a little better than billups. Nuggets went 6-4 during that stretch without Melo so obviously they needed him.Of course they needed Melo, the point is Melo didn't "take" Billups to the WCF. They were both playing at a similar level.

[MellowYellow]

Of course they needed Melo, the point is Melo didn't "take" Billups to the WCF. They were both playing at a similar level.
yeah melo 1a billups 1b, kinda like how durant 1a westbrook 1b